London update: at least 40 killed

"Four London Blasts Kill 40, Injure 300," from AP:

LONDON -- Three blasts rocked the London subway and one tore open a packed double-decker bus during the morning rush hour Thursday, sending bloodied victims fleeing in what a shaken Prime Minister Tony Blair called "barbaric" terrorist attacks. A U.S. law enforcement official said at least 40 people were killed and London hospitals reported more than 300 injured....

"Whatever they do, it is our determination that they will never succeed in destroying what we hold dear in this country and in other civilized nations throughout the world," said Blair.

U.S. authorities were monitoring the situation, but the official said it was too early to say who was responsible for the blasts. Investigators were trying to determine whether an al-Qaida cell's claim of responsibility for the attacks was credible, the official said....

A group calling itself "The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe" posted a claim of responsibility for the blasts, saying they were in retaliation for Britain's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Web statement, republished on the site of the German magazine Der Spiegel, could not be immediately confirmed.

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They should've called themselves "Palestinians Under Semitic Stress."

LOVE THE ACRYONOM!!!!! So fitting!


Ghastly.

Can we now hope both the main brit parties - the Tories and Labour, will develop new guts & resolve?

Which among the 2 is more likely to call the moslems' bluff about the 'religion of peace' cr_p?

Yeah religion of pieces, maybe.

Hey Basod, have a bad dream?, can't get to sleepy. Poor baby. Let us adults talk, and you get back to sleepy OKAY????????

Hello all,

It saddens me deeply that people going about their daily business, trying simply to live their lives can be cut down in this cowardly and inhumane way.

Worse still the propaganda that says "our heroic mujahadeen carried the fight to the infedel and all utter garbage like that".

I was only at Aldgate last Friday to see my son and can still see the front of the tube station in my mind...oh my Allah...

FU*KING ANIMALS. I tell ya, I see/read this kind of thing in Pakistan all the time.

I am an Ahammadia muslim and seeing these images on the TV made me cry...., One of my friends also got injured today. Don't let anyone fool you, the islamic organisations in the UK will soon turn like the MMA in Pakistan, don't let them get a foothold.

The BEST way to defeat these bastards is to get them to fight each other. Tell them the Shias did it on one side and tell them that the Sunni did it on the other. They deserve no sympathy and they will not get any from me.....already they have made my life an absolute misery in Pakistan.

The other way is to take the fight to them. Yes, for the 1st time I will say it....Dubiya was right to take the fight to Afganistan & Iraq. It is a pity for the innocents but this is fighting for the survival of freedom.

Let not them fool you ....they exploit, they believe that they fight for Allah (and they don't) and some of the over 200,000 six year olds who attend maddrasses will be the new Jehadi recruits.

I said the other day that the 1st nucleur Jahadi may already have been born, please be on your guard, lest we get taken to judgement day.

My deepest sympathies London

Let the deportations begin. No muslims.
No mosques.

I declared my own war on Islam long ago.

My deepest regrets to the families of those UK victims. These monsters and their ilk will pay one day. Believe me.

Round 'em up, ship'em out and bomb the Meccites back to the stone age

Could the childish halfwits posting lines of endless drivel please f* ck off.

Naseem

You are like the mafia don who shows up at the funeral of a poor soul who has been brutally murdered by another mafia family and cries crocodile tears.

It was YOUR ideology on display in London today; don't try to disown it.

There really is only two choices.
One pretend its a fluke and ask forgiveness
as the islamic revolution takes place
and destroys freedom.
Two use game theory they attack us we
attck them. Example nuke Iran or Mecca.
Sounds bad but its either fight or die.
Kick the moselms out of free countries
send them back to hell or there own hell
holes. Just a thought replies welcome.

I'm sorry but I do not believe that all Muslims are evil. They should be allowed to live where they want, and live as they please. I believe that they are a peaceful group, and that it just a group of nuts training and brainwashing desperate Muslims to do these type of things. We all have to learn to allow others to be what they are and live side by side. I don't try to force any of my Jewish friends to be catholic,nor would I force a muslim to be one. I don't happen to know any personally, but it isn't right for a few crazies to ruin a whole religion. It's a new racisim that is evolving and it shouldn't happen. That is what the nutty ones what to happen I'm sure. Just to prove them right. Naseem*** don't let a few lead you to believe that is what we all think and feel.

Naseem:

Thank you for your brave words. I do realise its not easy for one such as yourself, born and brought up into islam, to look at things from an outsider's perspective - dispassionately - and feel the right things.

Welcome to the good side.

All the best. With the MMA and the sipah-e-sahaba running the sectarian shows in Pakistan, you need every ounce of luck you can get.

Naseem,

Thank you, I hope your friend is not badly injured and recovers quickly. I was at Aldgate East two months ago and I used to work around there.

I do not know what the Ahammadia Muslims are are but your words make you sound like one of the good guys.

Hey good people on this website!
You better tell this thing they call Naseem to keep his stinking mouth and hand shut and inside cloth. I know Islam and their pretence, you cannot deceive me. If you want to be sincere, elaborate on what they teach you guys in your terrorist camp(mosques).
So for your own good, keep your mouth shut!
Written by,
Ayatollah Dase(SWT).

Dase:

Naseem is a Qadiani woman.
Doubly hit by the sting of islam - first for being born Qadiani (or Ahmediya) - and second, for being born a woman.

I'm suspicious of moslem taqiyya one helluvalot. But from what I've known of Naseem, and its been a long association here on JW, I believe her anguish is genuine.

Hello Daffersd,

"Ahammadia" is a breakaway movement within Islam which has for over a 100 years tried to move away from the expansionist, imperialistic and militant intentions shown by Sunni & Shia Islam. See the web site below.

http://www.alislam.org/introduction/index.html

We are so reviled by Sunni & Shia Islam that the Pakistani constitution lists us as infedels and not muslims.

We can not share mosques, and are not allowed to share common burial ground as they feel we "pollute" them.

In recent times there has been much violence exhibited towards us by the Sunni in particular because they feel that we devalue Islam.

Their biggest gripe is that we believe in a huzoor (the 4th at the moment) who started the Ahmaddia movement (Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908) in a small and remote village, Qadian, in the Punjab, India). His eminence Hadhrat Mirza claimed to be the expected reformer of the latter days, the Awaited One of the world community of religions (The Mahdi and Messiah).

His teachings are biased very strongly towards a softer Islam. The Sunni say that this title can only be accorded to Muhammed the prophet, hence the "beef".

Because of this we are treated worse than Christians & Sikhs in our own country of Pakistan.

Ahmaddis tend to be more successful in business and education...and do not show militant tendencies..another few reasons why we are hated by the muslim community.

Hope that helps to explain where I am coming from.

The other way is to take the fight to them. Yes, for the 1st time I will say it....Dubiya was right to take the fight to Afganistan & Iraq. It is a pity for the innocents but this is fighting for the survival of freedom.

Posted by: Naseem at July 7, 2005 10:47 AM

Yes, Naseem. It is, indeed, that so many innocents have died and will die before the jihaddists are defeated. They are more than a tiny minority, unfortunately, but they certainly aren't the majority either. I understand that while the Iraqis don't like being occupied, they hate the jihaddists even more. And we know where the bulk of their "moral" support and funds come from and we know why (KSA and Iran)-- to consolidate their own grip on power. It's recognizing who they are and doing something about it that seems to have eluded the powers that be.

My own feelings, as I watched what has been going on for the last decade or so, was that we were about to be confronted with something akin to the rise of totalitarianism of the 1930s/40s, but here, nations are not going to war so much as a faction has brought war unto the world.

For those who do not know Naseem, she has a long history of being an apologist for Islam on this website. It's always those who "misunderstand" or "misapply" the peaceful teachings of Mohammad that are responsible for the violence; isn't it Naseem? No. As Robert has so amply demonstrated, it is those who most diligently adhere to the teachings of your prophet that are responsible for ordering or carrying out the atrocities.

There were a handful of humane Nazis as well but it would be extraordinarily difficult to interpret Mein Kampf as anything other than a call for global domination and the extermination of the Jewish race.

The display of brainless hate on this thread is explainable but not justifiable. Some of us dream of simply removing Islam by an act of violence so as to be then able to go back to their interrupted slumbers. Others realize that the enemy will have to be fought for a long time and that talk of deportations and destroying mosques is nothing more than useless posturing by people who do not want to face the reality of hard, lifelong, painful slog and sacrifice. And I speak as someone who could have been there - Liverpool Street station is my gateway to central London, and I was there only a couple of days ago.

Naseem,

Thank you for the explanation. I educate myself further, bookmarked for further reading. Keep safe.

My deepest condolences to the British, yesterday one of my Brit friends returned home to the states after a visit in London.

The UK has to start rounding up these monsters and return them to the sandbox. These Islamists have been allowed to get away with far too much in Europe. Time for them to go home.

Here in England, my grandparents faced a highly disciplined, well trained, professional army (the Nazis) with a lavish array of the latest weapons which was capable of storming across any Western European country and imposing its evil regime on hundreds of millions.
The Muslims are the complete opposite to the above and can only successfully engage in sneak attacks on the innocent in cowardly massacres. Although they can terrorise, they can never kill or enslave 60 million people here.
On balance, which enemy would you prefer to face?

Charles:

Humane Germans, I'd buy, but humane Nazis? I doubt it.

Finally I can post without that Garp person fouling up the thread.

First of all, I hope that all British JW's are safe.

My condolences to all Londoners for the deaths and carnage that they have suffered.

I think that it's about time that all muslims who are non-citizens of Britain are shown the door.

The "small minority of extremists" are always able to be joined by any moderate muslim who turns religious because of some life crisis that he/she experiences.

The jihadists in England are even crazier and stupider than I gave them credit for.

Why they would want to harass a people that is mainly either sympathizing with them or indifferent to the fight (and therefore practically 'on their side', already, -being anti-Bush, anti-U.S., and anti-war ...since only Blair and a few others in power ever supported the Iraq intervention) shows that they don't know how counter-productive it is to bite the hand that is feeding them and allowing their fellow Islamicists to turn London into a recruiting station for global jihad terror.

Morons.

But maybe they read the Brit psyche better than I.

If England goes the Madrid route, it may have been a cunning move.

But I have a sense that the sons and daughters of Churchill and Bodaecia won't be too happy that their Muslim minority (whom they haven't really bothered inside England) could turn on them this viciously.

My sympathy and strength goes out to the people of the U.K. *

Round up the jihadist sympathizers and all others of the Religion of Pieces who have visa problems, etc., squeeze them for info, then ship 'em to Mecca.

I hope the response from the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq is swift, ferocious and effective. Plus, it's TIME for Musharref to give up Osama, and Iran to cough up Zarqawi.

__________________________________________________

(*I never used the Tube when I was in London, always preferring the top level of the double-decker buses... and, had I been in town, could have easily been on the bus bombed this morning. Cowardly psychotic s.o.b.'s. )

I think Islam will help us in destroying it, the more of these hideous attacks it preforms the more people wise up. Right now most of the trolls and dhimmis are in stunned silience but they'll poke their heads up for damage control. be prepared.

So the war begins.......

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