From AP, "Musharraf Vows to Curb Islamic Extremism" More on the search for al-Masri associate Haroon Rashid Aswat.
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - President Gen. Pervez Musharraf appealed to Pakistanis on Thursday to fight extremists in their midst, and officials said they were seeking the former aide of a radical cleric in Britain in connection with the July 7 bombings in London.Musharraf's nationally televised address came as Britain's ambassador, High Commissioner Mark Lyall Grant, said there have been no arrests in Pakistan related to the July 7 attacks, contradicting reports in recent days by Pakistani authorities that some suspects in the attacks were in detention.
In his hourlong speech, taped before Thursday's explosions in London, Musharraf acknowledged Pakistan had a ``problem'' with militants, amid international concern that Islamic schools here are promoting extremism. But he said Pakistan should not be labeled as lax in the war on terror simply because three suspected suicide bombers were of Pakistani origin, and visited Pakistan in 2004.
``We certainly have a problem here which we are trying to address. England has a problem also,'' Musharraf said, citing homegrown extremist groups in Britain.
``There is a lot to be done by Pakistan,'' said Musharraf, who strongly condemned the deadly July 7 attacks. ``May I suggest there is a lot to be done in England also.''
``Please rise and wage jihad against extremism,'' Musharraf said, invoking the term for holy war that is often used by militants.
The Pakistani intelligence officials said British investigators asked Pakistani authorities to search for Haroon Rashid Aswat, who reportedly had been in close contact with the suicide bombers just before the July 7 attacks, which killed 56 people, including the four attackers.
Aswat, 31, is of Indian origin and may not be in Pakistan, according to two intelligence officials in Islamabad and one in the eastern city of Lahore, all speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to talk to the media and because of the sensitivity of the inquiry...
...A jihad against the jihad?!?
"And if you don't believe me, I'll put a Jihad on you too"... (Team America)
Wonder how much Musharaff is 'in' on the 'plan'? He's a Muslim. Can you trust any Muslim? You even have to check out the apostates and these people have been such a resource, but there is this one guy in the US who was a Muslim, and then he became a Mormon. Very suspect. Can't be paranoid about everybody, but everyone needs a good checking out if we are going to rely on their assistance.
I don't understand. How would a peaceful internal spiritual struggle help us stop these violent attacks against us?
But anyways, now that we have Musharraf on our side, I feel much better. Other than supporting the Kashmiri terrorists, using Dr. Khan to sell nuclear technology on the black market, and hiding OBL in the northern provinces, what a solid ally!
So Musharraf wants to wage war against jihad?
It's very simple. He's effectively a dicator. All he needs to do is round up the imams, madrassa leaders and known jihadis and stage public executions.
"It's very simple. He's effectively a dicator. All he needs to do is round up the imams, madrassa leaders and known jihadis and stage public executions."
Joseph, that would mean turning the entire country into a prison camp, sorry concentration camp. hang on it's that already, but without the barbed wire, towers and sentries. But it does have its gas chambers and ovens, where cultural and intellectual genocide takes place - it's called islam.
JV
Musharaff's true motivations are unknown. Something directs his actions...probably profit motivation of some kind...If he is aiding and assisting the west, he is not a muslim but a dirty apostated infidel. Unless, of course, he is just a pawn in another of Allah's twisted plots, where everything is upside down and backwards, nothing is as it seems to be, and everyone is suspect. Except muslims in good standing. Allah hates non-believers so much that he sends his Jinn commanded by Iblis to help out modern jihadists. Just like in Mohammads time when Gabe and a few thousand of his Angels, with swords, and on horesback, helped Mo's failing army defeat a few dozen fat, lazy, merchants in a caravan. 'All muslims are united', or 'connected', there is only one God, Allah, one Islam and one muslim...this is a holy trinity...everything else is "parts". If you dont/cant fit into this trinity, you are not one of the parts...you are an insult to the whole, and must be killed or rejected. Like an intruder into an ants nest. Where does Musharraf fit into this? He's obviously a player in one of Allahs plots. He is still alive and in power in spite of unpopularity. Any attempts on his life, so far have failed. Allah must be protecting him...
Allah wont protect infidels, he hates your guts...but he protects Musharraf...HMMM
I am truly tired of hearing Muslims bandy the term "jihad" in any context, but it's not limited only to this particualar and preposterous Muslim jargon -- I deplore the way the Islamic menace has forced us to immerse ourselves in their puerile religion in order to uncover how they think. I don't want to learn any more about their revolting cultural habits, or expose myself to their crackpot religion and terminology, but it's necessary. I fear that the subtleties of some current terminology is opaque to Westerners and poses a great challenge in the discussion (clash) between civilizations. Those who don't wish to see fascist Islam succeed might rightly be disheartened so far.
Another term universally used is "infidel," but how many Westerners are even aware how utterly pejorative this term is? Few, I think... Yet both sides utilize it freely, the Muslims to great advantage, and the Westerners very foolishly. Do you think westerners are aware that some synoyms for "INFIDEL" are:
godless
heathen
heretical
pagan
profane
?
Unfortunately Muslims have claimed this word as their own and brandish it effectively... it instantly devalues the 'other' and places him in an inferior position. This fuels their supremacist notions of Islam's right to dominate, and we are coming to understand how central this is to their tendency to promulgate xenophobic hatred against, and become violent towards 'the other.' This term "infidel" once belonged to the West as an apt label for the feral Muslim -- he is not exactly godless, but worships a bastardized moon god who hails from an antideluvian race. Profane and base tenets form much of the foundation of their religion, and Islam is surely heretical in every sense of the word against precepts of humanism, Godliness, tolerance, and enlightenment. Islam so-called 'Prophet' and so-called God espouse rape, burglary, genocide, beheadings, slavery, subjugation and murder for all who 'don't believe' (the victims will always be 'the infidels' folks!) - A beastly religion to say the least...
This term "INFIDEL" is hopelessly lost for us now. I regularly read other sites where fuzzy non-Muslim / Muslim discussions are taking place, and the non-Muslims willingly and happliy chirp away -- "we infidels believe..." or "as an infidel I would like you to know..." without the faintest sense that they are abasing themselves before the Muslims who quietly lap it up. We have heard newscasters descant "What is it that Muslims want infidels to understand about their religion..." etc etc... The Muslims happily respond: "Infidels don't understand the meaning of jihad -- it means an inner struggle..." They've already scored several important points before the discussion has even begun...
For illustration, and not to be incendiary, but how would it look in a black/white discussion if the "N-word" were substitued for "Infidel"? "we n_____s believe..." or "as a n_____ I would like you to know..." or "What is it the slave masters want n-----s to understand about their slave systemt..." The comparison is completely apt. What better way to blatantly fuel their supremacist viewpoint of 'Islam uber alles' than to hear westerners happily adopting the nomenclature of the hater in most conversations between the sides...
"Non-Muslim" is another challenge. Self labeling ourselves with inadequate or self defeating terms such as "non-Muslim" provides them with an additional subtle but not insignificant tactical advantage. We are instantly accepting the pretext of "Dar al Islam" vs "Dar al Harb" and lending it complete legitimacy. Can it possibly be true that we can only define ourselves by our absence of Muslimness?!
When Musharaff or any so-called 'moderate' Muslim trots out "jihad" or any other hackneyed Islamic terms, I am not edified in the least... We must do better at defining ideas and lables precisely and in a way that doesn't harm us or further the goals of our enemy. If we can come up with terms which place HIM on the defensive, all the better!