Taken from Muslim Internet forums by an unnamed source:
It Was A Matter Of Time Before This Happened!!!Do They Expect To Take Blood For Naught?
Do They Expect To Take Lives And No Retalliation?
Do They Expect "Peace" & "Harmony" After Causing Destruction & Chaos?
Subhan'Allah - They Know Not Who Theyr Dealing With - As Muslims We Believe
Blood For Blood - Life For Life - Tooth For Tooth And Eye For Eye!!!
The funny thing about this is that it is the jihadists who -- again and again -- "Expect To Take Lives And No Retalliation." The Palestinian Arabs blow people up on buses and in restaurants and expect no retaliation. But when the Israelis take out Yassin or Rantisi, they cry to the world about unprovoked attacks and their right to retaliate.
Even the fact that the London bombings were described by the Al-Qaeda Europe group as retaliation for Iraq and Afghanistan is an example of this. They have just about convinced the world, or at least the Galloway half, that they are fighting because of the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. They are hoping we have all forgotten 9/11. And that attack, of course, was retaliation for deploying infidel troops on sacred Arabian soil. And before that, there was another pretext.
In my forthcoming book The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) I show that this tendency has deep historical roots. The Crusades themselves were greeted as unprovoked attacks by the Muslims in the Middle East, who blithely ignored the two centuries of harassment and persecution of Christians in Jerusalem and its environs that preceded and provoked the Crusades, as well as four and a half centuries of jihad conquests that obliterated Christian lands from Asia Minor to Spain.
And they are still ignoring this, aided and abetted by the Western victimization industry, which works quite well to foster this perspective.
By the way: I am unable to give more information about how I got these quotes without compromising my sources. Feel free to disregard them, but don't kid yourself into thinking that these sentiments do not exist in the Islamic world and Muslim communities in the West. I post them most of all as a message to those who wrote them: you are being watched.
Kind of one way aren't they...they can do it, but you cant...
Bloodless, lifeless, toothless and blind, sounds like zombies for Allah.
Here's some comments from a UK Islamic forum where I have built up a rapport and a presence over time. Not linking it because I don't want my conversations hijacked. These are not the only comments and there were some sneaky ones too, but since I'm there and then here I'm compelled to show a flipside. I also haven't perused the entire thread for the strongest examples of straight thinking, and can't speculate if there's the odd deceiver. Still I like these guys:
1. If it was Al qaedah, yesterday Tony benn struck a cord with me when he said its not a religious war, but a political one.
2. Quote:
People were seen streaming out of one underground station covered with blood and soot. Passengers were evacuated from stations across the capital, many in shock and with their clothes ripped to shreds, witnesses said.
not good at all....i hope everyones okay
3. I just read the news, it's so sad.
Yesterday they were all happy celebrating for winning the Olympic 2012 bid and today a desaster happens. One of the reasons why they say you shouldn't laugh or celebrate too much otherwise you'll cry too much afterwards.
4. They do it to satisfy their anger. This is nihilism. Terrorism is motivated by emotion because if they had the slightest bit of intelligence they would know that this achieves nothing and only strengthens their enemies.
5. London is OUR city. And I hope those bastards who did this are brought to justice and hung. No mersy for those who kill inoocent civilians.
6. God bless London, the greatest city in all UK.
btw I'm not trying to overturn your point, I couldn't and you do an amazing job. But it's clear to me there's more diversity in the muslim world than we sometimes think.
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Diversity in muslimland is like canine diversity...you got german sheppards, great danes, poodles, dobermans, and mutts ect...but they are still dogs...
Never will they take responsibility, But their only response in none of sorrow, but of protecting and "hiding" their image. WHAT A JOKE!!!! WAKE UP WORLD LEADERS
The Crusades were in retaliation for the much more successful Cresc-ades.
The London massacre is essentially a mass-inferiority complex lashing out in rationalized infantile retaliation for Islam falling into a pitiful condition after the 17th century.
Having cut out its own brain while the West freely developed scientifically, philosophically, in religious tolerance and depth, proceeded to revolutionize the planet and began the exploration of the solar system. (When the U.S. Apollo craft landed on the moon, some Muslim clerics protested that this was a violation one of their religious symbols. Nowadays NASA would probably apologize, but then they just laughed.)
Everything is an 'insult' to a thin-skinned, persecution-based imbecile. Thus all free and creative and progressive actions of non-Mulsims are a tacit 'reproach' to the Islamicists' delusional sense of thwarted 'superiority'. A sense of grandiose worth based on nothing but the self-proclaimed 'undoubtable' 'perfect' book of revenge-fantasy ramblings hectored by an illiterate desert pedophile.
But the Western Press and governments (and, oddly, even the mainstream churches and temples) are unwilling to analyze the problem of out-of-control Islam seriously... because that would require criticizing it fundamentally. While their forte is the superficial. The glad-handing. The ecumenical. The puerile. The vapid.
Time to put it a little more unpleasantly:
"Imperialistic Islam is doomed... humble and 'peaceful' Islam may survive, -if its imams can control their lunatic fringe.
If.
Otherwise they may get swept away in the global reaction to their murderous extremists... should these madmen become too dangerous and threaten the survival of the freedom-loving people of the world."
A big damned IF.
It needs to be the new war slogan:
"Islam must reform, or die."
(Because we aren't going anywhere.)
The Crusades were in retaliation for the much more successful Cresc-ades.
The London massacre is essentially a mass-inferiority complex lashing out in rationalized infantile retaliation for Islam falling into a pitiful condition after the 17th century.
Having cut out its own brain while the West freely developed scientifically, philosophically, in religious tolerance and depth, proceeded to revolutionize the planet and began the exploration of the solar system. (When the U.S. Apollo craft landed on the moon, some Muslim clerics protested that this was a violation one of their religious symbols. Nowadays NASA would probably apologize, but then they just laughed.)
Everything is an 'insult' to a thin-skinned, persecution-based imbecile. Thus all free and creative and progressive actions of non-Mulsims are a tacit 'reproach' to the Islamicists' delusional sense of thwarted 'superiority'. A sense of grandiose worth based on nothing but the self-proclaimed 'undoubtable' 'perfect' book of revenge-fantasy ramblings hectored by an illiterate desert pedophile.
But the Western Press and governments (and, oddly, even the mainstream churches and temples) are unwilling to analyze the problem of out-of-control Islam seriously... because that would require criticizing it fundamentally. While their forte is the superficial. The glad-handing. The ecumenical. The puerile. The vapid.
Time to put it a little more unpleasantly:
"Imperialistic Islam is doomed... humble and 'peaceful' Islam may survive, -if its imams can control their lunatic fringe.
If.
Otherwise they may get swept away in the global reaction to their murderous extremists... should these madmen become too dangerous and threaten the survival of the freedom-loving people of the world."
A big damned IF.
It needs to be the new war slogan:
"Islam must reform, or die."
(Because we aren't going anywhere.)
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Something is still unstable on their posting technology.
bigsleep,
Agreed. But you gotta be looking out for those 'if' ones. There's much, much more than if you don't look. People do know the score, but you can imagine the pressure on young Muslims to flip or enter a fantasy world of conspiracy theories is enormous. It can definitly be combatted in an upfront conversation. Not for everyone, but enough people conceding or agreeing to enough points totally changes the outlook. Otherwise, with our big tolerant if, we're talking the talk but...
btw I'm not trying to overturn your point, I couldn't and you do an amazing job. But it's clear to me there's more diversity in the muslim world than we sometimes think.
Posted by: Dom at July 8, 2005 10:47 PM
I'm sure there are some who renounce terrorism, but don't you think they are the minority? What is so confounding about this messy issue is that there is no way to distinguish the bad ones from the good ones. They are masters of deception, chameleons. Almost every terrorist or terrorist enabler/sympathizer arrested in the U.S. had every outward characteristic of a perfectly normal, average family man. They were usually described as polite, friendly, hardworking, helpful, and kind by their friends, neighbors, and colleagues. Their arrests leave their acquaintances in a state of stunned disbelief, and many were ISLAMIC CLERICS!
So a muslim's behavior and demeanor are irrelevant and provide no insight into his psyche or the extent of his religious fanaticism. Plenty of hatemongering goes on in American mosques, the same anti-Western, anti-Jew, anti-Christian rhetoric that Islamic clerics exhort all over the world. But they haven't yet been brazen enough to venture out to public parks and spew their venomous diatribes to a rapt audience of young muslim males like they did in the U.K. The recent flag desecration in NYC by a group of young muslim men was the first event of its kind in the U.S. that I'm aware of.
The overwhelming silence of the muslim world is indicative of their support for the terrorists. The usual lip service paid by Islamic leaders in the West is not enough to convince me. Groups like CAIR in the U.S. are working to overthrow the United States government and have admitted it. But they're going to do it through "education", that according to their illustrious spokeman, Ibraham Hooper.
Our lives would be much less stressful and complicated without muslims. Their mere presence in our countries have necessitated security nightmares in airports, public buildings, historic landmarks, tourist attractions, bridges, tunnels, dams. When I tried to renew my drivers license, I encountered a bureaucratic nightmare and it took one trip to the social security office and three to the DMV to do what should have been accomplished in fifteen minutes. Three days of my life were wasted on a damned drivers license, compliments of the Patriot Act. I recently learned that it now takes 60 days to get a commercial drivers license due to the intensive background check, Patriot Act again. If not for muslims, these inconveniences would not exist. And I have only touched the surface.
Do I resent the way muslims have changed my way of life? Hell yes! They have never and will never do a damned thing to make my life any better and they contribute nothing to the overall benefit of this country. They are a colossal pain in the ass.
Because life is prison, and death is paradise . THis is why they will never do anything to make life better
If we continue down this path of trying to sort the "good" Muslims from the "bad" Muslims, we are going to slowly but surely watch Western culture get swept away by the relentless Islamic Terrorist machine that is fueled by thousands upon thousands of Islamist sympathizers.
I'm sure there were some "good" Nazis, too, but I don't recall anyone worry about finding them.
How about the "good" Communists?
And the "good" Imperial Japanese?
No, the time for playing patty-cake with Islam is long over.
Time to break some eggs.
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