At Muslim sites such as the Islamic Thinkers Society, RevivingIslam.com, CagePrisoners, IslamChat, Hi5, Fisabillah, etc., they are, like the "moderate" Muslim leaders of Britain, more concerned about possible reprisals against Muslims than with the victims of these attacks, or with finding the jihadists within their ranks and bringing them to justice:
"bombs going off in london, people of huq remain steadfast, there are going to be arrests but only to scare the muslims, May Allah swt keep us firm, because many 'muslims' will change their understanding and turn into passive murji's""Lets watch the government take advantage of the situations, Muslims are going to be arrested left right and centre. They are already blaming Al Qaeda"
LOL. They are already blaming Al Qaeda. Well several wannabe Al Qaeda groups are already clamouring to claim responsibility!
Hilarious to see the press conference today, with Police Deputy Assistant Commissioner Brian Paddick saying its nothing to do with Islam, and the words Islamic and terrorism do not go together.
Also numerous apologetics for Islamism on the London air waves. Brian Paddock said "it's nothing to do with Islam". Why on earth did he say that? Its obvious, surely ?!
Its like saying Fairy Liquid has nothing to do with it! .... Why would they say that unless it is to do with it?
Countering Islamic literalism will not work by ignoring and sweeping it under the bloody carpet.
George Galloway saying it's our fault. What a sh***
Yes they have to lay low until they have superior numbers. Then they can openly fight us in our own countries. They will lie and tell us that it is only a tiny minority that supports terror. If we get wise and kick them the hell out of our countries, it will take them another generation or two to slither back into our countries to try their world domination trick.
Load them onto boats and send them back to the Middle East.
Mohammadanism suffers from Malignant narcissism.
Major apologies to everyone - I forgot how observant JWers are! Sorry for the repetition.
Paddick you Prat.
Can we here at JW start a "Say No to appeasement" campaign? Targetting common people, law enforcement and politicians?
Would be nice to involve some of the more involved political bloggers on both the right and the left into the campaign.
Just the germ of an idea.
Muslims will now be treated with even more sensitivity. Their demands will be given in to. There will be even more sensitivity courses. The Religious Hate law will pass with flying colours. Who says we won't give into terrorists?
We do it all the time.
Well, there goes Tony Blair excusing islam. AAARRRRGGGG!
We need more billboards...leave leaflets everywhere.
Carolyn2
You are right. You have obviously just heard the same slippery speech I have.
"Muslim Terrorist Strike in London Kills 40"
This is the first news headlines that say it right. MUSLIM TERRORIST. Not a nameless "Terrorist".
http://www.truthnews.net/month/2006070001.htm
Hilarious antics by the BBC just now, after Blair's speech. Blair of course trotted out the usual tired old guff about how this act doesn't represent true Islam, and then two BBC journalists repeated the same blather within the space of a minute. They didn't reiterate any other points from Blair's speech - just the Islamic propaganda.
Hilarious antics by the BBC just now ... They didn't reiterate any other points from Blair's speech - just the Islamic propaganda.
There is a great fear of public retaliation against Muslims for this attack. The government and the press are going to try to sooth the public to prevent it.
Also there is the fear that if they do tell the truth about Islam that will only cause 'moderate muslims' to go Jihad mad.
f.g.
The reactions from Muslim "moderates" remind me of the reactions from Catholic priests after 9/11. I know that one priest sang, "Let There Be Peace On Earth." Another encouraged parishoners to cultivate friendships with Muslims to protect them from "backlash."
The Blair government should immediately break diplomatic relations with Iran and Saudi Arabia -- Iran because it sponsors terrorism in Allah's name, Saudi Arabia because it encourages the spread of Wahhabbism.
Granny Weatherwax, I am so glad you are OK. I saw that KC, interested and Zico have posted also. Paolo posted too. Check in please ( all
our British posters )
Did these idiots participate?
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/til/jsp/modules/Article/print.jsp?itemId=10329634
Foehammer,
You are wrong.No use sending them to Middle-east.They will come back.There is only one way. REFORMATION,FORCED REFORMATION on Islam, as it is not possible within Islam.
CAIR's generic condemnation:
http://www.cair-net.org/default.asp?Page=articleView&id=1647&theType=NR
I just heard on FNC that everyone at Victoria Station should RUN as fast as they can away from VS. I hope this is a false alarm.
I know we aren't dealing with a tiny minority of fanatics, and certainly the larger Muslim community has been complicit through their silence, but deport them all?
Practically speaking, how do you deport 3 million or so people, some of whom were born in the US, if not naturalized citizens who haven't committed any criminal acts that would provide grounds for deportation were they not citizens?
What's the solution? I wish I knew. As long as neither the leaders of the "moderate" Muslim community are prepared to do anything more than decry the carnage as being detrimental to Islam and our leading politicians and the MSM go on parroting nonsense instead of acknowledging that we aren't dealing with a tiny minority of extremists, but rather a significant minority of extemists with deadly intentions, this is going to go on and on.
I am truly surprised how can ideas like that Islam and terrorism are necessarily linked and that there is no modernism in Islam be so repeated and stressed in this website. Not only that facts on the ground can prove this false, but also a basic understanding of culture and religion can put such ideas in the garbage of thought.
Extremely different human traditions and ideologies can be based on the same religious background and in many cases on the same text. We all know that Crusades’ Christianity and today’s merciful Christianity are both based on the bible. And it shouldn’t be surprising as well to understand that Muslims who established very tolerant states in middle ages where Jews and Christians reached to ministerial positions, have based their thought on Quran which is today the reference for Al Qaeda terrorists.
It’s necessary intellectually as well as humanly to understand that those jihadist extremist Muslims are a special group whos acts and thoughts only represent them. The text of Quran which was written 1400 years ago in very classical, sophisticated , and poetic text is well known to be very general and lacking consistency in narration. This has always opened the ways to build completely different thoughts upon that text.
Islam, however, suffers from serious moral issues these days. This is mainly because Islam is way lagging in what it offers compared to the western culture. A reason why muslims are getting little by little desperate of it. But when the question arises why few of those extremists have released their despair in the form of violent assault on the west, I can assure you it’s mainly political. Even though muslims think the western culture is weak morally, this is never a reason to motivate a muslim to suicide and kill civilians. And what even assures this argument is the fact that most of the casualties of Islamic terrorism are muslims! Or do I have to remind of what happened in Algeria and what is happening in Iraq today?
Muslims through a long lasting misleading propaganda during the 20th centuries were fed with a conspiracy theory that the west is all working and keen on destroying them. For those muslims, the economical hardship, the support given by the west to Israel, and the gulf wars were enough proofs that this conspiracy theory should be true. Those who believe that Islam has anything against the west that can lead to violence should ask themselves why most of the terrorists come from muslim countries that are having political troubles with western countries? Or let me state it more obviously, why most of terrorists are Arabs when Arabs are only one fifth of the world muslims. The terrorists are themselves always disclosing that they are fighting for political reasons.
I as a secular Arab, hope and wish that the world will understand that we Arabs and all muslims are in fact fighting against extremism, poverty, repressive government which are linked together. We are mostly hoping for democracy and freedom that the west is enjoying.
Acts of violence will not produce positive effects nor will it achieve the goals of the perpetrators. Therefore, it is not unlikely that security will be tight and those who subscribe to the faith under which the acts were done will not be free from scrutiny. It is not religious or spiritual to kill, period. It is a shame that spiritual teachings have been misused and misinterpreted in order to ease the mind and ego of those who wish to do harm to others. I challenge anyone who believes in such violence to do some intense research on the teachings of ghandi and mother teresa, as well as some soul searching.
"Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you."
Bill in Virginia
I hope you're right, I just feel very despondent about the whole situation today.
waterdragon52,
The solution is REFORMATION,REFORMATION FORCED UPON ISLAM,as reformation within Islam is impossible.
I want to condemn this muslim act, it´s a shame that some people, liberals, say that the Iraq War is the cause, but I think that each day the braveness and the fight against these animals will be won.
Carolyn
I have also seen posts from True Brit and Dafferdsd. But nothing from apostate_islam who I know uses the tube. A lot of friends are stuck at work and may have to sleep in their offices of course.
Averroes,
The problems you are facing are only because of your religion of Islam.Islam does not approve of reforms and your selfish and idiotic Leaders use this defect very nicely
Keep rounding them up!
I'm Ok Granny I'm in Yorkshire.. and NEVER venture out of the county these days .. Having said that, there are more than enough Islamofacists in the northern mill towns, which are too close for comfort...
waterdragon52 posted: "Practically speaking, how do you deport 3 million or so people, some of whom were born in the US, if not naturalized citizens who haven't committed any criminal acts that would provide grounds for deportation were they not citizens? What's the solution? I wish I knew..."
Don't deport. Criminalise Islam. It is a seditious, hate-promoting, murder-sanctioning death cult ideology that has no place in any civilized nation.
The peope who insist on practicing it should move to an Islamic country of their choice. Asylum. The Ummah would be more than happy to take in their own, no?
D.C., notice the scare quotes around "barbaric attacks"? Somehow that doesn't seem sincere, does it?
Granny, I'm praying for apostate_islam .
Averroes,
You honestly don't see how Islam and the killing of us "infidels" are linked?
A few cluebats:
--your religion literally teaches that "infidels" are monetarily worth "less" than Muslims
--your religion literally teaches that Muslims who harm or hurt "infidels" should not be punished severely, while "infidels" who harm Muslims must be put to death
--your religion literally teaches that "infidels" are lesser people than Muslims
--your religion literally teaches that "infidels" must live in "subjugation" to Muslims
--your religion literally preaches that Muslims must not make friends with us "infidels"
--your religion literally preaches that Muslims should establish Islamic states in which "infidels" are to live as second-class citizens under a system of apartheid-like discriminatory laws, or else forfeit our lives.
--your holy book contains numerous instances of "hate speech" against "infidels."
And you still don't see the connection? You teach your children that we are sub-human -- the Ottomans called us "herds" -- and you wonder why it is that some of you slaughter us "infidels" with no more thought than killing a sheep or a cow?
"We all know that Crusades’ Christianity and today’s merciful Christianity are both based on the bible."
--- from a Muslim poster above
No, that is flatly untrue. The Crusaders were engaged in a campaign to recover the Holy Land which had been conqueed by Muslims, and in the century prior to the First Crusade, Muslims destroyed Christian sites, beginning with the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in 1009, and attacked Christians all over the Holy Land. There are no texts in the Bible that were needed to justfiy the Crusades, and none did.
The Qur'an, and equally the Sunna (consisting of Hadith and Sira) are quite different in import. It is only to the extent that Muslims are not fully observant, or ignorant of these texts, or not paying attention for some reason, or choosing to ignore what they know is in them but do not wish to know, wish to pretend not to know, that they can possibly call themselves Mulsims and NOT support Jihad, including violent means, NOT support the world-wide spread of Islam, NOT believe that non-Muslims deserve to be subject to the status of dhimmi (at best -- at worst, where they are not Christians or Jews, to be treated even worse).
"Averroes" judging by the choice of pseudoynm would like to think of him(her) self as enlightened, and advanced. "Averroes" might begin by finding out about the handful of thinkers, in the first few hundred years of Muslim conquest (before the gates of ijtihad were closed, and before the fructifying presence of Jews and Christians was much diminished), and what they actually believed, and how they were treated. Avicenna, Al-Biruni, Al-Farabi, and others, and especially ar-Razi, were not terribly "Islamic" and some were close to, or had crossed the line, into heresy. Look them up, perhaps by starting with Ibn Warraq's little summary in "Why I Am Not a Muslim."
Defensiveness about Islam, misstatements about Islam, dreamy notions of the wonders of Islamic civiilization, exaggerated claims made for "Islamic civilizaton" of a thousand years ago (what other group of people harps continually on putative glories of a thousand years or more ago, if not the Fascists under Mussolini, and the Nazis hunder Hitler, both bemoaning the loss of supposed ancient greatness -- a characteristic of Fascism), all of this helps to define the defensive, sometimes embarrassed, and most often calculatingly taqiyya-and-tu-quoque master, who thinks of hiimself as an "advanced" Muslim but turns out to offer the same old same old.
But you see, right on the Internet we can all read several side-by-side versions of the Qur'an. We can read the Hadith of al-Bukhari and Muslim. We can read the Sira. We can study the history of dhimmis (go to www. dhimmitude.org). We can consult the many websites run by intelligent, well-informed, ex-Muslims -- try Ibn Warraq and Ali Sina. And every day more and more Infidels, simply out of weariness with the nonsense and jive of their own governments, are doing that -- going to the canonical texts, consulting the Western experts (the real ones, not the apologists who have taken control of so many university departments at present, all over the Western world).
It's too late to put the genie of knowledge back in the box. It can't be done. Infidels are learning too much, and they will not take any more nonsense, no matter how smilingly or plausibly, or even anguishedly, it is presented by someone who is supposed to be a "good," "moderate" (choose your adjectives) Muslim. Basta.
> I am truly surprised how can ideas like that
> Islam and terrorism are necessarily linked
Why? There is more than enough empirical evidence. The terrorists themselves claim a link.
It seems to me to be a straightforward observation.
Carolyn, no it doesn't seem sincere. Likely because it isn't. These cloaked rodents have no hearts. Their hearts froze and wasted away the day they became Muslims either by birth, or by way of conversion.
Quote: They are already blaming Al Qaeda"
How culd they???
It must b a Zionist plot to malign islam?
OH it must be IRA...
If not then it must b one of those stupid saffronites from Hindu dominated Southall.
I see Vikrant is fine too. + +
True Brit, my husband and his father are also Yorkshiremen.
"Islamic Terrorist" is an oxymoron.
"Muslims who established very tolerant states in middle ages where Jews and Christians reached to ministerial positions" Taqiyyah. Non-Muslims were allowed to live in Islamic states only as long as they had a skill the Muslims needed and accepted second class status as "dhimmi", and paid a monthly tribute, the "Jizya", which would often include surrendering their children. (Look up "Janassaries".)
You have rightly said Imam. These Imamas are everywhere in the wirld, we have got Imam Mulayam Singh in India. These Imams are more dangerous than real Imams.
Let us unite together and erradicate these Terrorists, I mean Muslims. Both words are same. Suffering majority Hinus of India are with British people today.
God bless Humanity!!
Ashok Singh
Hugh, thanks for the reply. you know what is your problem? you as many of the people here have little understanding of what the word muslim means. For you being a mulsim is like having a certain profession, that is a muslim receives certain education since birth for that and then he/she is supposed to do certain things depending on Quran and Hadith and their interpretations. This is understanding is truly superficial. A msulim is more a cultural being. that is smething like being a western. A muslim is not defined by certain strict features. A muslim is defined by his own self, family, community, habits, traditions, and the religious values. It really sounds funny to call those smart people you referred to as ex-Muslims, as if they truly stopped to be. A Mulsim can always reform and change, though he can be sometime frozen like he is today! And yes it is possible to be a muslim and not to support jihad. It's possible to be muslim and to beleive in equality between all people regardless of their backgrounds. Though this will seem unfaithful muslim in the eyes of classical muslims, but it is very possible in the eyes of modern muslims. Islam has been a way of life for many people in this globe for centuries...saying that Islam has no place in the world of today is far unrealistic as unfair. The only way is to reform muslims understanding of Islam.
Averroes - most people here, including Hugh (if I can dare speak for him) don't have a problem with Muslims.
What most have here is a problem with what is written in the Koran, and hadith, and those who follow it. Averroes, deny that these books are the 'word of god' and we will believe you. State that the Koran in wrong. Or do you approve of all the killing in it? State that Mohammed was not a good prophet, that sleeping with a nine year old girl, which is pedophilia, which he never admitted was wrong (unlike the writers of the Bible who happily exposed their wrongs, warts and all), or do you to support sex with nine year old girls, as a typical Muslim who can't admit that Mohammed's reasoning was flawed and hence to is the Koran???
"It's possible to be Muslim and to believe in equality between all people regardless of their backgrounds"
Show me in the Koran Averroes where it says, "Love your neighbor as yourself" or "love your enemies", and where it isn't contradicted or abrogated by another Koranic verse. We are all waiting.......
Oh while you are at it, please quote from the Bible where it commanded Christians to go into the Holy Land during the crusades to kill Muslims, or non Christians in general, where are the Bible verses of "Kill the unbelievers whereever you find them" verses?
Why is it you Muslims have to go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back to the crusades to find problems with the West. I only have to go back a few hours with Islam, lets try London shall we???
Reformation?
I had it more in mind to collect all the Muslims into Indonesia and the Middle East and then create big parking lots around the few Christian and Jewish areas that have somehow survived.
I'm just not in the Reformation spirit today, sorry. I have friends in the UK.
Islamic barbarians.
3rdtimelucky, I have to change the subject to reply to you, as I was talking about completely different things. But anyway, there are many problems in what you said. The Quran has two kinds of verses, ones that are directed to humans and others that are directed to beleivers. and among those directed to humans is to get to know each other and to cooperate. And there many verse that stress the importance of love, peace and tolerance. And the Quran is equal to the Bible in it's discrimination against non-beleivers. The bible states that All people should look for God, and God promised that he will be find by us, and only those whose who are wicked will not find God.
Another problem in what you said is that you mix western culture with christianity when they are completely different. The western culture is a new phase of human experience beyond relgions. It's absolutely secular and respect christianit as part of its moral duty of respecting relgions, the reason why respecting Islam is of the genuine features of being a western.
One last thing, I wonder why do you challenge my faith? I repeat it again, there is nothing in my opinion that can be fixed including faith. so, i can beleive that Quran is not valid any more, or why did God create brains for us if he wanted us only to follow a text.
"Or do I have to remind of what happened in Algeria and what is happening in Iraq today" -Averroes
Afghanistan was a true Islamic paradise, before the US invasion. It was 99.9% Islamic. This is what Islam wants for the world. What did we see in Afghanistan? Muslims murdering Muslims.
When the infidels are all gone, Islam will still be killing, it will simply kill its own. What else would you get from the crescent moon god of war?
Granny .. I'm a YorkshireWOMAN...of Welsh heritage.. born in Wakefield, a loooong time ago.
I'm still waiting on the Bible verses Avver?? You stated a "fact" about the crusades and Christianity. Back it up.
Oh and as for the "secular" west - please don't lecture me on MY culture. Christianity has influenced the secular West since democracy began. The true meaning of "secular" is that one leader cannot push his/her faith upon the others or make it a national religion. That's separation of church and state. The 'recent' bit you refer to is that of the Humanists hijacking the "separation of Church and State", saying that no Christian based laws can be applied, as it's "religious", while pushing their own beliefs upon the parliament, and unfortunately many Christians have fallen for it. But that’s democracy, and as a society, we shall stand or fall on all of these new “advances” the left has brought to us (eg Gay marriage, murder of the unborn, State sponsored hard drugs etc). Avver – there is a “tug of war” going on in the West, between the traditional – those who support the Christian moral, which is the West’s heritage and a big part of its history, and the Humanist ideals. It’s been raging well and truly since world war one, and the Humanists are winning it.
MANY of our laws are still based on the 10 commandments, but yes, as Humanism has taken over, many of the Christian based Laws are being watered down by the Left.
"The bible states that All people should look for God, and God promised that he will be find by us, and only those whose who are wicked will not find God. "
Yes it does - the operative word being LOOK! Not compel!! Something that doesn't exist under Sharia/Islamic Law.
As for the wicked not finding God - that's not entirely correct. The Bible does talk about the willingly ignorant, and it also mentions that the Father in Heaven doesn't want ANY to perish - that it breaks HIS heart. It also says the wicked are without excuse, due to the complexity of the world.
Avver - I also see that you criticize the West’s support of Israel? I gather you must be against the ONLY democracy in the Middle east - which also happens to be the ONLY Jewish, non Muslim dominated seat. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you do find Muslims in the Israeli parliament, yet you find no Jewish Pollies in Islamic countries where Jews still manage to exist. And as you are fond of going back in History, who was occupier of the land BEFORE the Muslim invasion? Who occupied it before the Romans came through the area in 70AD? In fact which group of people have lived there continuously for around 3000 years? Well that would be the Jews.
As for funding of Israel - have a look at the billions the West gives to the Muslims of the Middle east - it surpasses anything that we give to Israel. In fact Arafat was one of the world's richest dictators thanks to EU and USA money. The EU gives the Arabs/Muslims more money than they give Israel (in fact they want to boycott that "Nazi" state all together), yet we still see bombs going off in Spain, London - and its only a matter of time until we see more.
"The Quran has two kinds of verses, ones that are directed to humans and others that are directed to believers." Avver
And therein lies the problem. Which fallible person can interpret these vague verses Avver? While the Koran exists - there will always be killing and terror.
Why? Because good Muslims look at Mo (and he was a warlord) see how he lived according to those verses and apply the aptly.
Its just like Christians try to do with Jesus' example.
"so, i can beleive that Quran is not valid" - Avver
So you admit then that the Koran is flawed?? If so then I think you have found the root cause of the terror we see today.
"And the Quran is equal to the Bible in it's discrimination against non-beleivers" - Avver
Actually its not. The Bible says;
"here is the good news" - and leaves it at that.
Islam says:
"here is the good news" - and will then proceed to force people to believe, as it has done for the majority of its history, with Koranic passages and Hadith to back it up.
In Christianity the Bible makes it clear that God in Heaven is the only one allowed to judge (discriminate) against the unbelievers. That is not to say one should leave his/her morals at the door of parliament, but rather any laws introduced, should be BY THE WILL of what the people want, this is called a "free election", and hopefully Free Speech, which we have lost in Australia and other parts of Europe, thanks to Laws pushed through by the Muslims, Humanists, and liberal Christians (an oxy-moron if there ever was one).
In Islam - the Koran gives clear instructions as to what to do with apostates, and the infidels, here on earth.
While the actions of some followers in both ARE comparable, the actual written tenants in the Bible and Koran in the treatment of unbelievers are vastly different.
It would explain why there has been a tug of war between Christians/conservatives and the Humanists/Lefty's in the West, because after all is said and done (via an election) Christianity will walk away if the people so choose, and to some degree, so will Humanists/lefty's - in most cases in the Anglo speaking countries, all of which share a Christian heritage (I cannot speak for other parts of Europe, but looking at how the EU is going, I have my doubts about the Humanists).
Islam on the other will compel its law. Which probably explains that out of the hundreds of Islamic countries in the world there are only two Islamic democracies - Turkey and Indonesia, both of which have an appalling Human Rights record (eg domination of the infidels as second class citizens).
"The bible states that All people should look for God, and God promised that he will be find by us, and only those whose who are wicked will not find God. " - Avver
Actually we do not find YHWH in the Bible - either in the NT or OT.
The Bible clearly states that HE FOUND US, we don't find him. He loved us first, its not the other way around.
You might "find" the god of the Koran, but the God of the Bible, loved us first.
We only find Him because HE loved us first. Love is a relationship - love cannot exist in the singular (as that is SELFish).
Allah is a singular god - a selfish god, which is why the Koran speaks of:
"Allah loves this" and "Allah loves that"
It NEVER speaks about relationship love, true love.
The Koran IS NOT comparable to the Bible.
I'm a YorkshireWOMAN
Ee ba gum, True Brit I am sorry! Your liking for John Wayne films led me up the garden path.
It's been many years since I visited Wakefield.
f.g posted:Also there is the fear that if they do tell the truth about Islam that will only cause 'moderate muslims' to go Jihad mad.
If that happens, that would be for the best, for atleast we would know the enemy, and deal with it in the usual manner, just as we dealt with the Nazis and Japan.
In fact we can stop this jihad nonsense just by the threat of expulsion of muslims from the West. Expulsion - this is what muslims fear most, as is evident from muslim websites. It will mean the end of the expansion of islam, and thus bring the demise of this perverted and demonic ideology, rescuing muslims from it as well.
DP111,
"Expulsion - this is what muslims fear most, as is evident from muslim websites. It will mean the end of the expansion of islam, and thus bring the demise of this perverted and demonic ideology, rescuing muslims from it as well."
And the places they'd be going back to ain't pretty.
Round them up.......or outlaw their Religion of Hate in America! Once they bomb Italy, France, Germany, Holland,and the Swiss....maybe the world will get the message that we are at WAR with this RELIGION! Stop.....walking on egg shells and just SPEAK THE TRUTH! The CRUSADES are still ongoing for these bastards....and it is about time those on the left get out of their BATH HOUSES.....and face the facts!
"Of course, nothing to do with Islam, just a few bad apples, like any other religion!" How do those twits in power in the UK expect to be taken seriously when they parrot nonsense like that?
The Muslims are always whining about how oppressed they are and how the Jews run everything. You'd think they would love to go back to their wonderful home countries where they can enjoy the comforts of sharia'h and jihad!
I'd like to bet those 300 or so nutjobs who were screaming death outside the US embassy at the end of May ( burning the stars & stripes and effigies of Blair on a cross) are keeping their heads well down today.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/006399.php#comments
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/18759971?source=PA#
No-one I have spoken to saw any report by BBC TV or by any other TV newsroom in the UK regarding that.
Did anyone ?
"The Muslims are always whining about how oppressed they are and how the Jews run everything."
I agree
The final solution to the Muslim question is quite simple. Since all terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists, it follows that if all Muslims were rounded up and herded into 8x8's if neccesary then all the terrorists would be detained. Once detained it would then be possible to determine which were terrorists and which were not.
Their civil rights being violated wouldn't matter since the Supreme Court now re-interprets the Constitution however they see fit.
The final solution to the Muslim question is quite simple. Since all terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists, it follows that if all Muslims were rounded up and herded into 8x8's if neccesary then all the terrorists would be detained. Once detained it would then be possible to determine which were terrorists and which were not.
Their civil rights being violated wouldn't matter since the Supreme Court now re-interprets the Constitution however they see fit.
The final solution to the Muslim question is quite simple. Since all terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists, it follows that if all Muslims were rounded up and herded into 8x8's if neccesary then all the terrorists would be detained. Once detained it would then be possible to determine which were terrorists and which were not.
Their civil rights being violated wouldn't matter since the Supreme Court now re-interprets the Constitution however they see fit.