In FrontPage this morning, Daniel Pipes discusses the recent British opinion polls that indicate substantial support among Muslims for the bombings, and comments:
(1) It is hard to say which is the most alarming of these many worrisome statistics, but two stand out. That less than three-quarters of Muslims in Britain indicate they would tell the police about an impending terrorist attack raises grave doubts about the Blair government’s tactic of getting Muslims to police their own community. That one-third of Muslims do not accept British society and want to end it, presumably to pave the way for an Islamic order, casts comparable doubts on Britain’s much-vaunted multicultural ideal.(2) Even the Telegraph’s interpreter of its survey, Professor Anthony King of Essex University, feels compelled to sugar the results, calling them “at once reassuring and disturbing, in some ways even alarming,” whatever that means. In several specific instances, he turns hair-raising statistics into cheerful ones (that 73 percent would warn of an impending terrorist attack he deems “impressive”). The newspaper’s and the professor’s panglossian attitude makes one wonder what might wake the British to the Islamist hell growing in their midst.
That panglossian attitude is unfortunately not restricted simply to the Telegraph and this professor.
Read it all.
Surely not to be lost sight of is this:
Taqiyya and kitman are religiously-sanctioned doctrines of dissimulation about Islam, and about one's owns beliefs. One is encouraged to lie to protect the faith and the position of Muslims.
Muslims have shown what non-Muslims would find to be a remarkable ability to speak and behave one way, and then when they believe they are among their own, or when they think the temporary danger from Infidels reacting to an outrage has died down, or proven not to be so dangerous, to reveal their true beliefs.
There have been many examples of imams and Muslim spokesmen showing up after 9/11 for assorted "interfaith" vigils, who made all the right noises, and who later on were picked up for their demonstrated support for, or other connectio to, terrorism. There have been those celebrated clerics in the Middle East, Australia, and elsewhere who have, for Infidel audiences, stoutly denounced "suicide-bombers" and for audiences of fellow Muslims, insisted on defending suicide-bombers.
There have been those who expressed astonishment, horror, at various bombings and then, when they thought the coast was clear (i.e., the Infidels were not going to do anything) revealed their support for such attacks. One thinks here of the outwardly pleasing uncle of one of the London bombers, who at first (fearing Infidel reaction) expressed shock, amazement, absolute horror -- and then, when it was clear that the Infidels were not going to behave as Muslims would naturally have behaved had positions been reversed (with mass killings of Infidels that would not stop), decided to announce his true feelings: his sympathetic understanding of the London bombings that, not two weeks before, he had had such apparent difficulty even in comprehending.
A similar case is that of Mohammad Atta's father, who just after the attacks of 9/11/2001 expressed that same "shock, astonishment, horror," and now not only reveals his complete approval for 9/11 but also tells the world he supports the London bombings too -- adding some extra, just for the Infidels.
With all of this, how likely is it that the "opinion polls" are answered truthfully by exceeedingly wary Muslims at a moment when they are going into full taqiyya/kitman mode?
The real figures about Muslim loyalty to Islam, and disloyalty to Britain, must be quite different. The real figures as to Muslim indifference to turning in people about to commit terrorism must be far higher. The real figures as to what Muslims really think must always be assumed, given Muslim doctrines, given the fantastic ability of Muslims to turn on and turn off their "deeply sincere" beliefs when it comes to fooling non-Muslims, whether selling in a souk (that metalwork zarf-and-finjan set in Morocco, the hubble-bubble pipe in Egypt, the carpet in Damascus), or outside the souk, selling Infidels a bill of goods, as one can be certain was done in the case of this opinion poll. Not everyone got with the program, of course -- some hotheads insisted on telling the truth. Extrapolatethe real figures from those "hotheads." But even the taqiyya-and-kitman doctored figures should send a chill down the spines not only of security services, but of every Infidel still in full possession of his senses.
Even without taking into account the eventual taqiyya/kitman component that Hugh above draws attention to, the poll results should be seen as totally alarming by every sane Infidel person, and printed in big letters in all Western tabloid newspapers. From the Telegraph article:
"YouGov asked respondents how they feel about Western society and how, if at all, they feel Muslims should adapt to it. A majority, 56 per cent, believe "Western society may not be perfect but Muslims should live with it and not seek to bring it to an end".
However, nearly a third of British Muslims, 32 per cent, are far more censorious, believing that "Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to bring it to an end"."
Pipes refers to the 32% of the affirmative answers about the will to "seek to bring to an end" the Western society; a number already absolutely alarming, given the number of Muslims living in Britain and elsewhere in the West. But notice the first half of the statement: only 56%, that is slightly more than a half of the respondents say that they would NOT seek to bring the Western society to an end. So nearly half of the Muslims in Britain actually admit to wanting to destroy the Western society and lifestyle. What more does one need to know, before drawing the right conclusions?
The British police have posted the photographs of the four failed bombers in the most recent London attacks. No one, repeat, no one from the British Muslim community has stepped forward to identify them. There can be absolutely no doubt whatsoever that many British Muslims recognize these men. They will never turn them in because by doing so they would betray their brothers in arms to their common enemy, the British people.
So in the face of this fact who needs polls? The Muslim community in Britain, by refusing to hand over the guilty among them, has now shown its true colours. The Islamofascists have declared war on the United Kingdom and have commenced their military operations against the civilian population. There will be no negotiated settlement.
The British people can count on one thing in the battles ahead: the Yanks will stand by your side and together we will again prevail.
God bless America and God save the Queen.
Interesting article in Jerusalem Post about the first UK targetted killing:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1122171719427
Richard
« I am afraid that God has sent these men to lay waste the world ».
- Patriarch Cyrus of Alexandria, while negotiating the surrender of Alexandria to the Muslims, 640 AD.
"Muslims who agree with what the London suicide bombers did: 2 percent. Who believe there is a Koranic justification for the bombings: 5 percent."
Interesting. So while only 2 percent believe the actions were right, more than twice that number believe it is justified in the Koran. So the moderate opposition to suicide bombings is despite the Koran, not because of it.
They fail to mention whether the 95% who said no Koranic justification added, "but there is in hadith!"
Why are the London police – on a shoot to kill order –
Maybe they don’t know how big this whole thing is – or how many men are involved. So as they keep us calm – they prepare for the worst.
It's Muslims who are killing us – so let’s look at the state of Islam.
Could it be that secretly moderate Muslims – wait with baited breath for the installation of the first Islamic State in the West – which these few radicals (or bad elements) might be able to install – if enough of them would only get involved.
Let’s discuss how we should all become Muslim –
1. We should dress in all black – oh that’s for the women – the men can dress in western clothes.
2. We should all find and marry one of our first cousins.
3. We should turn and face the stone (representative of Islam and which is not an idol ~ in itself) and pray daily.
4. We should all ignore – the prehistory of ‘Islam’ – I mean of ‘Kaaba’ as the religion used to be called and the significance of the Moon – in the worship of Allah and his three daughters – no matter what we read.
Many Islamic people have made the classic mistake – in believing that their religion makes its followers greater than other man - which is also the same mistake Hitler made.
And like Hitler – if Islam does not humble itself – it will be humbled.
Question:- if Muhammad’s father was named Allah or servant of Allah – wouldn’t that mean that they worshiped Allah before Muhammad was born. Oh! And how was Allah worshiped then?
Try worshiping in Peace.