From AlJazeera.Net (not the Qatari television station), "Separatists kill Kashmir family," with thanks to Two Stellas.
Suspected separatist fighters have raided a remote mountainous village in Indian-administered Kashmir and shot to death six men from the same family, police say.Village elder Akhtar Hussain and five members of his family were shot at point-blank range in the attack in Chittabas village in a thickly forested area 160km north of Jammu, the winter capital of Jammu and Kashmir state, said Senior Superintendent of Police Shakil Baig.
"This is the work of terrorists," Baig said. He was referring to the dozen-odd Islamic groups, some Pakistan-based, fighting Indian security forces in the state since 1989 to carve out a separate homeland or merge the Himalayan region with Pakistan.
No one immediately claimed responsibility for the slaying.
More than 66,000 people have been killed in the conflict.
Muslim families are directly targeted in Kashmir by fighters when they are suspected of being informers for security forces, officials say.
But civilians form the bulk of those who have died in Kashmir in the past 16 years, killed in crossfire, bombings, and at the hands of both the separatists and security forces, according to human rights groups...
When are people going to stop saying "This is the work of terrorists," and simply say "It was the Muslims. They did this."
Where is all the self righteous a-wipes like Red Ken, the ISM or Norm Chumspky to decry this murderous warfare and demand India end its "illegal" occupation of Kashmir
HELP??
were these Indian or mulsum??
My frist thought is they know where ubl[] is??
he was in that reagion in 1998 this is where he had his big meating and talks about it in he war statement??
http://www.beecy.net/frank/
http://www.islamistwatch.org/main.html
Declaration of War on America
August 23, 1996 Hindukush Mountains, Khurasan, Afghanistan
By Usama Bin Laden
Declaration of War on America
read it he also talks about the land with 2 rivers????
REMEMBER
Afghanistan is close to Kasmir???
the Mountian range is linked together??
the Pakis have put him on the move can't risk us finding him in their land so they have pushed him to move????
JUST a thought???
could be why the hit london thisngs were getting to hot wanted a distration??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
PS
Why has Pakistan arrested more people than England I have seen many on the streets of London saying death to the infedals why not drag them in????
oh yea guess the English goverment doesn't think protecting the English people is very important because they are waiting untill after summer break to do the work to protect the English people SAD SAD SAD???
YOU would think they could give up their summer break??
BUT like the French went on summer break while 10,000 died in the summer heat???
ps
3 human bird flue in Indonesia?? now did they get this eating brids or plucking brids??
are these people eating these brids raw??
can you cook the virus out of the meat??
Above someone asks if the family was Muslim "or Indian" -- a nice touch, that.
As to names, it is very easy to distinguish Muslim from HIndu names. This is as true for first names -- Mohammad, Ahmad, and assorted variants, on the one hand, Vijay and Vikram and Surinder on the other. As far as last names, "Hussein" ought to have been a dead giveaway.
However, there is one name that swings both ways: Patel. There are Hindu Patels, and Muslim Patels.
For more on this fascinating subject, I implore any Hindu or Sikh visitor to this site to enlighten us, we who would like, in deciding which Indian restaurant or grocery to go to, and which to avoid, to help us distinguish the names in a somewhat more detailed fashion, that only someone deeply imbedded in the suject, and to the manner born, can possibly provide.
I implore any Hindu or Sikh visitor to this site to enlighten us, we who would like, in deciding which Indian restaurant or grocery to go to, and which to avoid, to help us distinguish the names in a somewhat more detailed fashion
Lemme bring to bear my immensely limited knowledge on the subject.....
Post partition, many moslems whose ancestors were Hindu retain clan/tribe/village/caste names as their family names or surnames as we in the west would call them. For e.g. not just "Patel" but surnames such as "Choudhary", "Durrani" etc are shared by both hindus and moslems.
But yes, the sharing of names that draws on a shared ancestry is gradually eroding. Moslems wanna ghettoize and 'safeguard' their precious identitiy so much they are keen to dissociate from anything Hindu in their names and hey, the Hindus too don't mind it seems. They feel they can do without being associated with the mussis (who wouldn't?)....
Anyways, my 2 cents.
As far as last names, "Hussein" ought to have been a dead giveaway.
Posted by: Hugh at July 20, 2005 09:15 PM
REALLY??
I thought the dead give away was that they referred to them as terrorist instead of rebals??
but they also reffered to them as Suspected separatist fighters ???
so this is why the confusion but not the thinking about ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY]??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen
Voletti is right. Clan names are still retained within the Bangladeshi and Pakistani Muslim community. There are also "fringe" groups such as Khojas, Ismailis, Vohras who are Muslims but the Sunnis and Shias dont consider them to be (like Ahmediyas)...they mostly have a mixed name. There is no specific guide however, dear Hugh to make u enter only a Hindu place. The only thing you can do is just quit if any part of the name sounds islamic (eg. Ahmed Patel, Mirza Choudhary, Javed Anand)...you see in the third case (Javed Anand), it is the first name which is Islamic and the last name is Hindu, though this stupid "secularist" is nothing but a closet Islamist (and a Muslim).
Ah well you can always go to stores in Gujarati settled areas of New Jersey. 90% will be Hindu...or the recognized chains such as Taste of India.
G'Day!
"Separatists..." and it came from Al Jizzeera. What more do you need to know?
Huge Hindus usually keep religious idols or photos of hindu gods at their business place , its usually above the owners chair .
"Huge Hindus..."
-- from a posting above
How does that old saying go? Size doesn't matter.
Sorry i ment Hugh