I have long maintained that jihadists recruit Muslims by presenting their case from the Qur'an and Sunnah, showing that theirs is the "pure Islam." No one wants to face the implications of this. Here is more evidence of it. "Raided men defend their part in jihad," from the Sydney Morning Herald, with thanks to Nicolei:
Four Middle Eastern men whose homes were raided by ASIO say they support a Taliban-style interpretation of Islam and have defended their right to train with jihadists and support violent uprisings overseas.But the men denied they filmed prominent landmarks in Australia or were planning terrorist acts here, saying the claims were concocted to frighten the public.
Speaking for the first time, on condition of anonymity, their leader said he hoped to see sharia, or fundamentalist Islamic law, established in his country of origin.
"Why is it an American or an Australian can go and fight in the Israeli army and will not be called a terrorist when he comes back, but a Muslim who goes and fights is called a terrorist?" one of his colleagues said....
The four men said they were targeted because they wished to practise a "pure form" of Islam. "They don't tell you in front of you, 'We hate your religion', but we believe this is the case," the group's leader said. "We would like to practise our religion, not according to the Western understanding or according to their legislation, but according to the Koran and the prophet Muhammad.
"According to the Australian Government, if you are Muslim you can practise your religion but … when you try to do it properly, then the problem comes," he said.
One man said the security officers had seen their wives without headscarves, dug up gardens and sifted through bins looking for incriminating information.
Shock horror!
"According to the Australian Government, if you are Muslim you can practise your religion but … when you try to do it properly, then the problem comes," he said.
Also, anyone trying to practice the Aztec religion runs into the same problem. Kicking people down steps after you've removed their hearts is frowned upon in the free world. What an outrage!
What the Islam really needs is its own planet. I imagine it would be something like the planet. I’m sure it would turn out to be like the planet Sanguine in Norman Spinrad’s The Men In The Jungle.
Whoops. That last paragraph should have read:
What the Islam really needs is its own planet. I imagine it would turn out to be like the planet Sanguine in Norman Spinrad’s The Men In The Jungle.
Well, there you have it.
From their mouths. They're not kidding. They mean it. It's their intent. They believe.
"...they wished to practise a 'pure form' of Islam"
Isn't that also what the Taliban said? And Jihad Johnny Walker, too?
"We would like to practise our religion, not according to the Western understanding or according to their legislation, but according to the Koran and the prophet Muhammad.
Let's see how apologists rejigger this.
Here's a bumper sticker thought--
A picture of any well publicized Islamic atrocity (like the World Trade Towers). And below it:
They practiced a 'pure form' of Islam!
"According to the Australian Government, if you are Muslim you can practise your religion but … when you try to do it properly, then the problem comes,"
Raping women and men,pedophilia, destruction of civilization, burning books, destroying ancient monuments and architectural wonders, stealing, plundering, killing people in the name of religion from the Atlantic to the Pacific for centuries and now exporting it to the Western hemisphere, impaling children on your spears to be carried through the streets to show your military might, raping daughters, mothers and wives and forcing their fathers, sons or husbands to watch when they are helpless to do anything, mutilating and torturing prisoners of war in the modern world (and we're talking within the last ten years), distorting history etc etc etc.....sounds like a virus? Of course it is, its True Islam.
-Ayo Gorkhali
Let's send Sean Penn over there and have him interview them.
OK. Send them ("deport" is so non-PC) where they can practice their true form of Islam. Pakistan comes to mind. Saudi Arabia also, but they are cherry picking immigrants.
"According to the Australian Government, if you are Muslim you can practise your religion but … when you try to do it properly, then the problem comes,"
Then the Australian Government should not permit islam to be practiced at all.
-MZ
Well there you have it! Muslims refuse to conform to the legislation that is put in place for all citizens. That should tell you a few things:
1. Citizenship is of no importance.
2. The wishes of the majority are of no importance.
3. These Muslims, and many others that remain silent, intend to impose Sharia on the population.
4. Freedom of religion for others is of no importance.
5. Islam and "religion" are all important. Nothing else matters in the calculus.
Finally a bit of truth telling from the Muslims -- This is it in a nutshell -- The more ardent the follower of Islam, the more likely his "pure" view will exactly resemble that of these execrable enemies... So much for moderation in Islam... I say, if such ideas crop up from this putrid relgion, it shouldn't be tolereated ANYWHERE...
So do we Australians have "Freedom of Religion" or not?
The politicians tell us we do? Victoria has laws that enable Wiccan (convicted) Pedophiles to sue the Salvation army for saying such practices are evil, as do the Muslims sueing infidels for reading the Koran in the Daniel Scot case.
While we are told that all cultures are equal, we obviously don't practice what we preach. Why can't we just drop all the PC BS and win the war on "terror"???
More evidence.
“Expert: Attacks motivated by logic, not religion”
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/06/30/schuster.column/index.html
He probably doesn’t read Jihad Watch.
I have long maintained that jihadists recruit Muslims by presenting their case from the Qur'an and Sunnah, showing that theirs is the "pure Islam." No one wants to face the implications of this.
Posted by Robert
It is going to take 'FIRE' to fight 'fire'
Here's a bumper sticker thought--
A picture of any well publicized Islamic atrocity (like the World Trade Towers). And below it:
They practiced a 'pure form' of Islam!
Posted by: PRCS
I like that one PRCS
Let's send Sean Penn over there and have him interview them.
Posted by: nuh
I can think of a few others to send with him
Brian Willaims comes to mind
"According to the Australian Government, if you are Muslim you can practise your religion but … when you try to do it properly, then the problem comes,"
Then the Australian Government should not permit islam to be practiced at all.
Posted by: Madzionist
It shouldn't be aloud in ANY non-Muslim nation. Their Koran thoroughly and clearly violates ALL international humanitarian laws.
Why are the leaders tolerating it?
Well there you have it! Muslims refuse to conform to the legislation that is put in place for all citizens. That should tell you a few things:
Posted by: epg
See} http://palestinename.com/usconstitution.htm {The Koran violates the U.S. Constitution
So do we Australians have "Freedom of Religion" or not?
Posted by: 3rdtimelucky
Not for long if the leaders don't wake up
“Expert: Attacks motivated by logic, not religion”
Posted by: butterfly
Amazing - isn't it? - that word 'expert' ?
Here's what the 'experts' missed:
005.051 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors {authorities]: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
004.101 When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.
009.005 fight and slay the Pagans ''''wherever'''' ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.
008.067 It is not fitting for a prophet that he should have prisoners of war [slay them] until he hath thoroughly subdued the land. [Treason - in all non-Muslim nations]
009.123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you.
047.004 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers in fight [jihad], smite at their necks. [Behead them!]
002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing [war] which is good for you and that ye love a thing [peace] which is bad for you?
009.039 Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place.
If we dummies can understand what those teachings are saying - why can't the 'experts' ???
"Why is it an American or an Australian can go and fight in the Israeli army and will not be called a terrorist when he comes back, but a Muslim who goes and fights is called a terrorist?" one of his colleagues said...."
That's probably because Israel is a civilized country that isn't looking to rule the world and desrtoy Western civilization.