UK: Police snipers track al-Qaeda suspects

From the TimesOnline:

UNDERCOVER police sniper squads are tracking as many as a dozen Al-Qaeda suspects because security services fear they could be planning more suicide attacks, writes David Leppard.

The covert armed units are under orders to shoot to kill if surveillance suggests that a terror suspect is carrying a bomb and he refuses to surrender if challenged.

The deployment of the teams in the past week signals the huge “intelligence gap” that has opened up since the London bombings.

Police fear the suspects could be planning a further wave of attacks but do not have enough evidence to arrest them, or place them under the government’s new anti-terror control orders.

Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan police commissioner, warned last week that there was a “very strong possibility” of more terrorist bombings.

Scotland Yard and MI5 say there may be more “bomb factories”. However, officers admit that they have no idea which suspects could be planning the next attacks so they are deploying the sniper squads as an emergency measure...

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Well well, maybe the situation in the UK is not hopeless, after all. Too bad 53 Brits had to die for their corrupt politicians to find the courage to do what they should have done a long time ago.

This needs to be implemented in all Western nations where Muslims have invaded shores.

Two days after London attack, in Italy 142 fundamentalists were arrested. Do we have to wait for an attack for arresting dangerous people? Bye.

We shouldn't, Harry, but with an impotent government, it appears to be heading in that direction.

Sorry for yet another off-topic.
We have a new report on Jihad in Central Asia

Baku is Fearful of Mojahedin
http://www.axisglobe.com/article.asp?article=250

Unfortunately, Zapatero in Spain has already surrendered. That will probably cause thousands of others to be murdered all over Europe.

July 17, 2005
http://intelligence.senate.gov/040617.htm
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: BILL DUHNKE
JUNE 17, 2004
PHONE: (202) 224-1700
Senate Intelligence Committee Unanimously Approves Pre-War Intelligence Report
WASHINGTON, DC– Senator Pat Roberts, Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, the Committee's Vice Chairman, issued the following joint statement:
"Today, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence voted unanimously to approve its report on pre-war intelligence regarding Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs, ties to terrorists, threat to regional stability and violations of human rights. Today's vote is the culmination of over one year of intense scrutiny by the Committee of the Intelligence Community's pre-war assessments. The Committee is currently engaged with the Central Intelligence Agency over the issue of classification. The Committee is extremely disappointed by the CIA's excessive redactions to the report. Our goal is to release publicly as much of the report's findings and conclusions as soon as possible. We will work toward that goal, as we continue our work on phase two of the Committee's review." -30-

http://intelligence.senate.gov/040603.htm
http://intelligence.senate.gov/iraqreport2.pdf
http://intelligence.senate.gov/conclusions.pdf
WHAT DO THESE REPORTS SAY??
THAT THE SENTATE CAVED TO THE LIB PRESS??

REMEMBER??
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3872201.stm
US reveals Iraq nuclear operation
The US has revealed that it removed more than 1.7 metric tons of radioactive material from Iraq in a secret operation last month.
"This operation was a major achievement," said US Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham in a statement.
He said it would keep "potentially dangerous nuclear materials out of the hands of terrorists".
Along with 1.77 tons of enriched uranium, about 1,000 "highly radioactive sources" were also removed.
WALKS LIKE A DUCK TO ME!!!
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/15/105743.shtml
In a July 9, 2004 press release that's still available on Roberts' official Web site, the Kansas Republican said:
"The former Ambassador, either by design or through ignorance, gave the American people and, for that matter, the world a version of events that was inaccurate, unsubstantiated, and misleading. ...
"Time and again, Joe Wilson told anyone who would listen that the President had lied to the American people, that the Vice President had lied, and that he had 'debunked' the claim that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa. As discussed in the Niger section of the [Committee's] report, not only did he NOT 'debunk' the claim, he actually gave some intelligence analysts even more reason to believe that it may be true."
Sen. Roberts continued:
"When asked how [Wilson] 'knew' that the Intelligence Community had rejected the possibility of a Niger-Iraq uranium deal, as he wrote in his book, he told Committee staff that his assertion may have involved 'a little literary flair.'"
The Intel Committee chair concluded:
"I believed very strongly that it was important for the Committee to conclude publicly that many of the statements made by Ambassador Wilson were not only incorrect, but had no basis in fact."
OH MY DO THE DEMOCRATS REALLY THINK ALL THE WORLD IS STUPID??
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/14/90749.shtml
Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:06 a.m. EDT
Hillary Clinton Wants Violent Video Game Probe
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has attacked violent video games as "a silent epidemic" among children, said she wants a federal investigation into one of the most popular, "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas."

Clinton, D-N.Y., is asking the Federal Trade Commission to probe how users of the game can access "graphic pornographic and violent content" for the game from the Internet.
AND WHAT SHOULD SHE BE WORKING ON??
LIKE THE BORDERS AND ALL THE GANGS IN THE USA AND ISLAMIC TERRORIST BUT WHAT IS SHE WORRIED ABOUT
VIDEO GAMES??
HOW ABOUT ALL THOSE ISLAMIC WEB SIGHTS WHICH SHOW PEOPLE GETTING BLOWN UP OR THEIR HEADS CUT OFF ALL IN THE NAME OF ISLAM BUT NO LIKE RINO McCAIN WORRIED ABOUT BASEBALL HILLARY IS WORRIED ABOUT VIDEO GAMES???

LOOK?
AT THE PICTURES OF THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST FROM LONDON??
NOW THINK ABOUT IF THEY WERE SPEAKING SPANISH, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE??
THEN THINK ABOUT THE GUY WILLIAMS AND THE MEXICANS LEFT TO DIE IN HIS TRUCK?
THINK ABOUT HIM BEING FROM OHIO??
LONDON BLEW IT TWICE,ONE OF THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST WAS Q? BY MI5 THEN DEAMED TO BE NO THREAT?? MUST HAVE BEEN A GOOD LIER R THEY HAVE TRATIORS IN THEIR GROUP??

THE 2ND WAS TO NOT CASE THE CAR IN THE AIRPORT CARPARK, TO WAIT TIL THE OTHER ISLAMIC TERRORIST CAME TO PICK UP THEIR BOMBS???

TONY BLAIR ADMITTED WE ARE UP AGAINST AN EVIL IDEA???

SAW ONLY ONE MULSUM PROTEST AGAINST ISLAMIC TERRORIST. IN GERMANY? 200 SHOWED UP, BUT MOST WERE WHITE CHRISTIANS???

I SAID THE LINK ABOUT PLANE WAS EITHER CLARK OR POWELL??

http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/04/07/53936299.shtml?Element_ID=53936299
Wamp: Oak Ridge plays 'key role' in removing Iraqi nuclear material
Associate Press
OAK RIDGE, Tenn. -- Experts from the Energy Department's nuclear weapons and research complex in Tennessee played a ''key role'' in removing radioactive material from Iraq that could be used in a dirty bomb, U.S. Rep. Zach Wamp said.
Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham announced in Washington on Tuesday that DOE and the Defense Department removed 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium and about 1,000 highly radioactive sources from a former nuclear research facility in Iraq.
The material was flown to the United States on June 23.
The uranium will be stored temporarily at a ''secure DOE facility'' and the radioactive sources were taken to a ''DOE laboratory'' for further examination, DOE said.
WHY DO THEY KEEP SAYING THERE WAS NOTHING??
NAZI SYMBLE PAINTED ON GRAVES IN FLA, DONE BY MULSUMS??
http://palestinename.com/nazi_jihad.jpg
AND WE CANT FORGET??
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_during_ww2.php
Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini issued a fatwa- "summons to a holy war against Britain" in May 1941. The Mufti's widely heralded proclamation against Britain was declared in Iraq, where he was instrumental in "the pro-Nazi" Iraqi revolt of 1941.

YOU ASK WHY NC WELL READ “SHADOW WARS” THEN THINK ABOUT ALL THE ARAB AND MULSUM TAXI’S AND THE LIBS WHO SUPPORT HAMAS IN NC?? AND WHY IS THE SHARTON RUN BY ARABS?? AND WHY DID DUKE SAY IT WOULD NO LONGER TREAT VETS???

FOX FINNIALY SHOWED SOME OF THE NY CRAZY MULSUMS BUT NOT ENOUGH THEY DIDN’T LET IT PLAY OR HEAR THEM YELLING LOOP HOLES??
http://www.foehammer.net/2005/06/thoughts.html

VIDEO IN NYC OF CRAZY MULSUMS!!!

WE’ER NOT AFRAID GUY ON CNN TODAY SAYING HE WAS AFRAID OF VIDEOS SEAMS HE IS A BIG LIB??
ALL PUSSY’S AND PUPPYS??


Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

PS
http://www.beecy.net/frank/


We can only hope that all Refuse to surrender, after all what would you do to some evil kid murdering pig?
To hunt this kind of Rat is a good thing, may god help each one and watch over all the cops in the UK.

So now you have to have snipers roaming about because of the muslim habit of killing civilians?This article says more about the incompatibility of Islam with western civilization then anything else.

Doesn't this post contradict the "Bat Ye’or’s theory of the British collapse" post in Dhimmi Watch?


Gee, I thought the simpering Neville Chamberlains in the UK always condemned this sort of "abomination?"

Jews from that "shitty little country" have the nerve to try to protect themselves by eliminating the scum who murder them -- the nerve! But tsk tsk, those compassionate Brits, now they have a right, and obligation, to remove this very small group of Al Qaeda from their society. Goodness, they're not occupying anyone!

It was hunky dory with the rest of the world when Israeli's got slaughtered on buses and coffee shops, pizzerias, on the road and in their homes. Now read the news and see what countries are being stalked by Islamofacists! Instead of apologizing for the terrorists and making excuses for them the nations should have roundly condemned them.

As it goes with the Jews it will go with the rest of the world! Just remember that.

So now you have to have snipers roaming about because of the muslim habit of killing civilians?This article says more about the incompatibility of Islam with western civilization then anything else.

Posted by: Roxane at July 17, 2005 06:38 PM

ROTFL!!!!

Gold Star for you today!!

THE THINGS YOU SEE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR GUN??

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST ALL ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

PS
ANY MULSUMS PROTESTING THE RATICAL MULSUMS IN ENGLAND OR JUST THE BLAB BLAB BLAB BY THE OPINTED???

NOT A PROBLEM FOR THEM TO PROTEST GETMO AT THE DROP OF A RUMOR WOULD HAVE MADE SIENCE TO HAVE PROTESTED IF THEY WERE REALLY AGAINST THESE MONSTERS ??

GUESS THEY ARE NOT AGAINST THE MONSTERS?????

Catherine,

Just a tip, but you might want to occasionaly take your medication, use Dictionary.com, and turn off your caps lock.

Toodles

Roxane makes an excellent point. When was the last time we had anyone shadowing Christians with sniper rifles because of their tendency to explode in public places?

Islam is the Enemy. Reform or Remove It.

"but do not have enough evidence to arrest them.."
-- from the article above

Then there is something wrong with the laws at present. They need to be changed to meet the current situation: war from within, with a classic fifth column, and the inappropriateness of treating this as a matter of criminal justice, rather than of warfare. If the enemy is Islam (or "the Jihad" to make it more palatable), then these are enemy soldiers. If citizens, they are traitors, like those who were Nazi agents in the United States and England during World War II. If the laws do not permit the authorities to arret them, to deport them, to put them on trial for treason or to find other means of removing the threat they pose, then there is something wrong with the laws. If they are not citizens, then it should be possible, where there are reasonable grounds, to simply eliminate them so they will not be a threat to anyone. The problem is that the battlefields are within our Infidel countries, and the intended targets are Infidels within those countries (and if some Muslims also die when a bomb explodes, that is too bad, but they were certainly not the intended target, and the fact of their deaths does not in the slightest exculpate Muslims or change the motivation for the attacks).

HUGH
IS RIGHT ON THIS ONE AND THE MULSUMS SAY TO KILL OTHER MULSUMS IN THEIR QU-RAN!!!

Qur’an 9:5 “When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

OH MY I THINK THIS MEANS LIBS TOO??

Qur’an 8:12 “Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.”

THINKS THIS WORKS WITH BOMBS??

Qur’an 48:19 “He rewarded them with abundant spoils that they will capture. Allah has promised you much booty that you shall take, and He has made this easy for you.”

THEY WANT YOUR LANDS!!!

Qur’an 8:69 “So enjoy what you took as booty; the spoils are lawful and good.”

LOOKS LIKE THE ENGLISH AINT GIVVEN IN SNIPERS TO KILL ISLAMIC KILLERS!!!

Qur’an 4:94 “Believers, when you go abroad to fight wars in Allah’s Cause, investigate carefully, and say not to anyone who greets you: ‘You are not a believer!’ Coveting the chance profits of this life (so that you may despoil him). With Allah are plenteous spoils and booty.”

SO IT AINT JUST MULSUM LAND THEY WANT??

Qur’an 9:3 “Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle.”

SO WHAT EVER DEAL THEY MADE WITH THE LIBS THEY WILL BREAK??

Qur’an 9:3 “And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the Pilgrimage is that Allah and His Messenger dissolve treaty obligations with the Pagans.”

AGAIN BETTER NOT TRUST LIERS??

Qur’an 49:9 “If two parties among the Believers fall into fighting, make peace: but if one becomes aggressive, then fight against the one that transgresses until it complies.”

NOW HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HEARD THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FIGHT ANOTHER MULSUM??

Qur’an 9:7 “How can there be a covenant between Allah and His Messenger and the disbelievers with whom you made a treaty near the sacred Mosque?”

NO IN ENGLAND MULSUMS GRAB YOUTH BEAT HIM THEN LIGHT HIM ON FIRE THIS IS WHAT MULSUMS DO IN ENGLAND HOPE THEY WAKE UP AND SEE THEY HAVE LET THE MONSTERS IN THEIR GATES??

Tabari VIII:17 “The Muslims and polytheists stayed in their positions for twenty nights with no fighting except for the shooting of arrows and the siege. When the trial became great for the people, the Messenger sent for the leaders of the Ghatafan [Meccan comrades]. He offered them a third of the date harvest of Medina on condition that they leave. The truce between the sides progressed to the point of drawing up a written document, but there was no witnessing or firm determination to make peace; it was only a matter of maneuvering.”

DO NOT BELIEVE THEM WHEN THEY SAY THEY DON'T WORK WITH NON-MULSUMS THEY DO AND DID AND WHEN THEY HAVE THE UPPER HAND THEN THEY TURN ON THOSE THEY FOUGHT WITH!!!!

Qur’an 48:11 “The desert Arabs who lagged behind [in fighting] will say to you (Muhammad): ‘We were engaged in (looking after) our flocks and our families.’ We have prepared for them a Blazing Fire!”

SEE KILLING OTHER MULSUMS WHO WILL NOT FIGHT????

Qur’an 48:17 “There is no blame for the blind, nor is it a sin for the lame, nor on one ill if he joins not in the fighting. But he who retreats, (Allah) will punish him with a painful doom.”

OKAY TO BLOW UP OTHER MULSUMS WHO ARE NOT FIGHTING?? WHY WE SAW NO MULSUMS PROTESTING AGAINST THE KILLING OF CHILDREN IN IRAQ OR THE BOMBINGS IN ENGLAND??

Qur’an 4:88 “What is the matter with you that you are divided about the Hypocrites? Allah has cast them back (causing their disbelief). Would you guide those whom Allah has thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah has thrown aside and led astray, never shall they find the Way.” Qur’an 4:89 “They wish that you would reject Faith, as they have, and thus be on the same footing: Do not be friends with them until they leave their homes in Allah’s Cause. But [and this is a hell of a but...] if they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them.”

TALKING ABOUT KILLING MULSUMS IN THIS?? I'D SAY WOMEN WORKING IS NOT A GOOD THING BY MULSUM STANDARDS AND IF THEY WERE MIXING WITH NON-MULSUMS TO THEM THEY ARE FAIR GAME AS THEY HAVE SAID MANY TIMES??

Qur’an 47:21 “Were they to obey, showing their obedience in modest speech, after the matter (of preparation for Jihad) had been determined for them, it would have been better. Is it to be expected that if you were put in authority and given command that you would do mischief in the land and sever your ties of kinship. Such men are cursed by Allah. He has made them deaf, dumb and blind.”

TALKING ABOUT MULSUMS HERE??? WHY WE SEE NO PROTEST FOR THE POOR IRAQI CHILDREN??

Qur’an 9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to march forth in the Cause of Allah (i.e., Jihad) you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you march, He will afflict and punish you with a painful torture, and put others in your place. But you cannot harm Him in the least.”

WELL THAT AINT GOOD SO ALL MULSUMS ARE TO FIGHT OR DIE???

Qur’an 9:48 “They had plotted sedition before, and upset matters for you until the Decree of Allah [to fight] became manifest, much to their disgust. Among them are many who say: ‘Grant me exemption to stay back at home (exempted from Jihad). And do not tempt me [with promises of booty].’ Have they not fallen into temptation already? Indeed, Hell surrounds them.”

WHY MULSUMS IN THE WEST ARE A REAL DANGER??

Qur’an 9:77 “He punished them by putting hypocrisy in their hearts until the Day whereon they shall meet Him, because they lied to Allah and failed to perform as promised. Allah knows their secrets. Those who slander and taunt the believers who pay the zakat (for Allah’s Cause) voluntarily and throw ridicule on them, scoffing, Allah will throw back their taunts, and they shall have a painful doom. Whether you ask for their forgiveness or not, (their sin is unforgivable). If you ask seventy times for their forgiveness Allah will not forgive them.”

WHY ALL MULSUMS SUPPORT ISLAMIC TERRORIST??

THE PRESS IS SAYING THERE WERE ANTI TERRORISM RALLYS YET NO VIDEO WHICH TELLS ME NO MANY SHOWED UP????

NUMBERS??


Qur’an 9:81 “Those who stayed behind rejoiced in their inaction behind the back of the Messenger. They hated to strive and fight with their goods and lives in the Cause of Allah. They said, ‘Go not forth in the heat.’ Say, ‘The fire of Hell is fiercer in heat.’ If only they could understand! So let them laugh a little, for they will weep much as a reward for what they did. If Allah brings you back (from the campaign) to a party of the hypocrites and they ask to go out to fight, say: ‘You shall never go out to fight with me against a foe. You were content sitting inactive on the first occasion. So sit with the useless men who lag behind.’ Do not pray for any of them (Muhammad) that die, nor stand at his grave. They rejected Allah and disbelieved His Messenger. They died in a state of perverse rebellion.”

OH MY??

Qur’an 9:88 “The Messenger and those who believe him, strive hard and fight jihad with their wealth and lives (in Allah’s Cause).”

WHY THEY GIVE MONEY TO ISLAMIC TERRORIST BUT NOT THE VICTIMS OF THE KILLER WAVE???

Qur’an 9:97 “The Arabs of the desert are the worst in unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Messenger. Some of the Bedouins look upon their payments (for Allah’s Cause) as a fine and wish disasters to fall on you (so that they might not have to pay). Yet on them be the disaster of evil.”

OH MY??

Qur’an 9:120 “It is not fitting for the people of Medina and the Bedouin Arabs to refuse to follow Allah’s Messenger (Muhammad when fighting in Allah’s Cause), nor to prefer their own lives to his life. They suffer neither thirst nor fatigue in Allah’s Cause, no do they go without reward. They do not take steps to raise the anger of disbelievers, nor inflict any injury upon an enemy without it being written to their credit as a deed of righteousness.”

OH MY??

Qur’an 59:11 “Have you not observed the Hypocrites saying to their unbelieving brethren among the People of the Book, ‘If you are expelled [from your homes by the Muslims], we will go with you?’ But Allah is witness that they are liars. If the Jews are expelled, never will the Hypocrites go with them; if they are attacked, they will not help them defend themselves. In truth you [jihadist Muslims] are more fearful and awful (than they) because they are afraid of you. This is a result of the terror (sent) by Allah. They are men devoid of understanding.”

DON'T WE SEE THIS IN THE WEST HOW MANY ISLAMIC TERRORIST HAVE BEEN TURNED IN BY MULSUMS WHO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON NOT MANY??? WHEN WE KNOW 10S OF THOUSANDS WENT TO THE TRANING CAMPS???????


Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

Those snipers should be very very careful. First, nothing should link Islam to terror, right? Second, they should all remember that civil liberties come first. Third, they need to remember that they're English and need to honor their proud tradition of touching their toes for every passing iman.

When at war, you must act upon suspicion and intuition - or you forfeit initiative to the enemy. The entire muslim population is suspect ... it should be interned and deported.

The West (UK / USA) owes islam absolutely nothing.

Don't the British know how to pick people up for littering, jaywalking, spitting, etc.- the bag of 'public interest' items that are dragged out to get dangerous s.o.b.'s off the street.

Waiting, with snipers, seems incredibly passive.

And inviting disaster.

Watch the suspects for anything that fits an existing infraction and drag their sorry butts in.

And start the unending bagpipe music at 110 dB.

(Panties on the head seem to work, too.)

Why wait to shoot them if they're known Al-Qaeda?

The news that the London terrorist attacks were carried out by second-generation Muslim immigrants should not surprise us. For years now we in the West have indulged a whole set of destructive ideas whose bitter fruit we will all continue to harvest, as more and more unassimilated and disaffected immigrant children turn against the countries that welcomed their parents and provided them with a prosperity and freedom unknown in their countries of origin.

Van Gogh was brutally murdered in Amsterdam on November 2 by a Dutch male of Moroccan descent, who is alleged to be an Islamic fundamentalist.A second-generation Muslim immigrant

Hamas deployed Britons Asif Muhammad Hanif and Omar Khan Sharif, who murdered three people at a Tel Aviv bar,second-generation Muslim immigrants

We have allowed a dangerous virus to infect the West. Ultimately,we will always be vulnerable to those who do think their way is better — just as we see today with many second-generation Muslim immigrants in Europe indulging in their murderous islamic fantasies, We have subsidized, coddled, and abased ourselves before people who, as the attacks in London demonstrate, are willing, on behalf of the culture that had failed their parents, to murder and terrorize the culture that has given them a freedom and opportunity that hardly exist in most Islamic countries.
To demand that muslims assimilate and pledge allegiance to their new homes is not xenophobia or racism; it is rather to demand that those who choose to come to the West and enjoy its political and economic goods respect, honor, and embrace the ideals and principles that created those goods in the first place. And it is to recognize that yes, a price must be paid: the discarding of those old ways and ideals that contradict or compromise the new values. After all, by coming to the West the immigrant has already voted with his feet for the Western way. If he now finds that he made the wrong choice and that he believes the culture he left is in fact superior, then he is free to go back.
_________________

ooops
the above post was meant for another site
any-one who can read/write swedish
http://www.fomi.se/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=2

What I meant to post was
Since 7/7 I have been watching BBC/CNN closely and the only person who has said something sensible was an israeli [I forget his name]
IF YOU ARE SURE SOME IS TRYING TO KILL YOU THEN KILL HIM FIRST

"Then there is something wrong with the laws at present. They need to be changed to meet the current situation: war from within...'
posted By Hugh.

One feels like screaming "I know oh my goodness I know" when reading such a statement.
indeed the failure of our legal system to deal with such situations and the uproar from the left at the slighest action which mught be deemed a mild transgression of Human rights , has veritably tied our hands behind our backs.
Mass murder cannot be dealt with in the same way as shoplifting.
Out of desperation is it any wonder that western governments prefer their terrorist to be tried OUTSIDE their own jurisdiction ? Or indeed for interrogations to be also held abroad?

How many bold criminals have used entrapment to escape punishment? How else for example would agents infiltrate islamist groups bent on mayhem.
"Agent Martin. Did you pose as a jihadist and offer your services as a suicide bomber? "
"Yes my lud"
And were sou then supplied with a bomb belt containing high expolives?"
"Yes my lud"
" Your honor i move for an instant dismissal on the grounds of entrapment!"
"GRANTED"

ooops
the above post was meant for another site
any-one who can read/write swedish
http://www.fomi.se/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=2

What I meant to post was
Since 7/7 I have been watching BBC/CNN closely and the only person who has said something sensible was an israeli [I forget his name]
IF YOU ARE SURE SOME-ONE IS TRYING TO KILL YOU THEN KILL HIM FIRST

foehammer,

Great idea for t-shirts, flyers and business cards.

ISLAM--REFORM IT OR REMOVE IT!

Of course, we know it can't be reformed.

PRCS

How about this?

Islam winning hearts and minds - one bomb at a time

The only problem with such t-shirts is that it puts a bounty on your head for wearing them.

Oh, and yet, we all know it is a "Religion of Peace" -- the truth is, everyone is scared silly to confront the lunatics for fear of reprisals against their loved ones, etc.

T-Shirt front: ISLAM- REFORM IT OR REMOVE IT.

T-Shirt back: "Salman Rushdie and I live in the same bullet-proof bunker."

Feb 1989 The Satanic Verses published.
12 Feb 1989 Six or more Pakistanis protesting the sale of The Satanic Verses in the United States are killed by police gunfire during in the ensuing riot.
14 Feb 1989 Ayatollah Khomeini issues a Fatwa against Salman Rushdie over Satanic Verses.
24 Feb 1989 12 are killed an 17 wounded in Bombay when police open fire on a crowd of 10,000 protesting outside the British Embassy.
29 Mar 1989 Belgian Muslim leaders Abdullah Al Ahdal and Salim Bahri are shot and killed inside a Brussels mosque.
27 May 1989 30,000 Moslems protest outside the British Parliament.
14 Sep 1989 Person or persons unknown place four bombs outside British bookstores owned by Penguin, publisher of The Satanic Verses.
3 Jul 1991 Italian translator Ettore Capriolo is beaten and stabbed in his Milan apartment.
12 Jul 1991 Japanese translator Hitoshi Igarashi is stabbed to death in Tokyo.
4 Jul 1993 37 people are killed in a riot in Sivas, Turkey.
11 Oct 1993 Norwegian publisher William Nygaard is shot three times and left for dead outside his home in Oslo.

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When's the last time the Pope put a bounty on someone's head?