DC Watson wonders where to find any evidence supporting the "religion of peace" line we dhimmis are supposed to swallow:
On Thursday, July 7, 2005, adherents of Islam, the “religion of pieces,” once again demonstrated their expertise in sneak attacking innocent, unsuspecting people. This time in London, England. Dozens were murdered, while hundreds were injured.
Last year, on March 11/2004, it was Madrid, Spain. On October 12, 2002, it was Bali, Indonesia. Although Muslims have committed other atrocities as well, Western governments are quick to jump to their defense, proclaiming that most Muslims are good, law-abiding people. Ever since September 11, 2001, we’ve had to listen to President Bush, Prime Minister Blair, and other world leaders describe Islam as a “religion of peace” and tell us that “the vast and overwhelming majority of Muslims both here and abroad are decent and law abiding people who abhor this kind of terrorism every bit as much as we do."
There’s one question that they should be answering. Where is the evidence of this? Where is the evidence that Islam is a peaceful religion? What have Muslims done to demonstrate to the civilized world that they have come in peace?
If they aren’t blowing things up, they’re whining to Western governments, attempting to garner special privileges just for being Muslims. All one has to do is look at the current conflicts around the world to see who's involved.
Darfur, Sudan, the Philippines, India/Pakistan, Israel/Palestine, Nigeria, Kosovo, Egypt, Indonesia, and Algeria. All of these conflicts involve Muslims.
In the West, Muslim immigration has brought about turmoil and crime to secular nations, where Muslims work to implement Islamic law. They refuse to follow the laws of the lands they’ve infiltrated. When their numbers grow, so do their demands and intolerance. The Muslims are fighting two wars: one is military, and the other is political.
While many Muslims will not strap a bomb belt to themselves or to their children, the fact remains that they have done nothing to eliminate these heartless murderers from their communities.
There is no legitimate excuse for this. Their silence should tell us that something is awry in the Islamic community. American Muslims are no different from their Islamic brothers around the world. Muslim groups in America, namely the Council on American Islamic Relations, the Muslim Public Affairs Council, and others have “condemned” the bombings in London, while CAIR even urged Muslims to offer “condolences.” Excuse me, but isn’t that like asking termites to offer condolences to homeowners after they ate away the wood that was holding their house together? This is an insufficient response. These are spokesmen for the Muslim community. They should be sharply questioned about what they are doing to keep this kind of thing from happening again. Even worse is that their primary concern seems to be with "backlash" against Muslims in response to this attack, just as they were larger concerned only about “backlash” after all the other Islamic atrocities.
Muslims who have migrated to Western nations should be asked one simple question: why did you come? Why have you migrated away from your precious Islamic states? Muslim immigrants in the West should be asked for what purpose they have come to live in Western societies. Is it because where they come from is so oppressive and barbaric that they had to seek refuge in the West? If this is the case, you’d think they’d be somewhat more respectful of those who’ve granted them their safety.
Have they migrated from Islamic States to the West for a higher quality of life for themselves and their children? If this is the case, you’d think they’d be somewhat more respectful of those who’ve granted them this opportunity.
Or, have they migrated to the West for the purpose of increasing Muslim population figures, armed with mouthpieces posing as Muslim civil rights groups, all for the sake of spreading the Islamic ideology of bigotry and disrespect of all other faiths and cultures, all over the world? If this is the case, the elected leaders of Western societies need to be tapped on the shoulder and then sat down to be truly educated about this intolerant sect.
The complaints and blatant disregard for the law of the land by those of the Islamic faith is inexcusable. Muslims in America have been:
• Walking off their jobs because they can’t pray at work except for when they’re on their scheduled breaks.
• Suing employers, accusing them of religious bigotry.
• Pressuring elected officials at local levels to amend noise ordinances to allow the Muslim call to prayer over loudspeakers five times every day.
• Breaking city ordinances by hanging Ramadan banners on poles where it is prohibited, and then complaining to city government after being made to take them down. Complaining to the point that the same city government gives in and allows them to hang them back up.
• Exiting their taxi cabs to pray in areas where it is prohibited to do so, then complaining that they were ticketed for breaking the law.
Yet they wish to be respected and well thought of. They wish for Westerners to revere their so-called “holy scriptures,” the Qur’an. So long as Muslims refuse to stand up against Islamic fundamentalism, refuse to shut down Islamic groups who have questionable ties to terror networks, refuse to turn in Imams and Muslim clerics who preach hate for non-Muslims and for the West, refuse to turn in the madrasses operating in America who demand allegiance to the Qur’an and not the U.S. Constitution, and refuse to obey US Constitutional law and the laws of all free nations, the American people and our friends in Europe have no obligation to attempt to distinguish the good from the bad in the Muslim community.
The game isn’t paddy cake. The game is cultural survival, and our starting line up, our governments, appear to be shaving points.
Perfect questions Muslim-wards, perfectly phrased.
We've heard plenty from the 'Arab street'. But their ancient, hateful message means nothing to us.
While there are plenty of 'Muslim advocay groups' right here at home who feintly condemn the atrocities carried out by their own, what we really need to see is Muslim outrage on the 'American street'.
What we get, instead, and often, is this kind of hate, from a Los Angeles Times article concerning the King Fahd mosque in L.A a while back:
"Inside the mosque community, there are those who are sympathetic to jihad and suicide bombings and those who are not. Some object to non-Muslims visiting their sacred space; others warmly embrace them. Some women veil their entire bodies; others throw off such practices as outdated.... On the Friday after the terrorist attacks, the imam [Tajuddin Shuaib] says, he gave a sermon condemning suicide bombings and was shouted down by some men who leaped to their feet and accused him of 'changing the Quran.'"
Right here in America.
And this.
And of course, my favorite:
Here is a video
Right here in America.
And it goes on.
Blair did it again today:
Blair Says Roots of Terrorism Must Be Addressed
Families Search for London Bombing Victims
The Associated Press
Saturday, July 9, 2005; 6:07 AM
LONDON -- In an address on British Broadcasting Corp. radio Saturday, Prime Minister Tony Blair said Britain must defend against terrorism _ but must also strive to understand the underlying causes of the violence, which he identified as deprivation, lack of democracy and ongoing conflict in the Middle East.
"I think this type of terrorism has very deep roots," Blair said. "As well as dealing with the consequences of this _ trying to protect ourselves as much as any civil society can _ you have to try to pull it up by its roots"
That meant boosting understanding between people of difference religions, helping people in the Middle East see a path to democracy and easing the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, he said.
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Blair is one of the most important European dhimmis. Note what is missing in his statement- any mention or condemnation of the murderous ideology of Islam as the cause of terrorism. The "root cause" Islamic Terrorism is always explained by external factors...Palestine, Poverty, lack of Democracy, etc. Never is the cause of Islamic terrorism internal to Islam...the root cause of Islamic terrorism is Islam. It's time for Western governments to stop lying to us and stop protecting Islam.
Sorry,
The video link, I hope:
http://www.intelligencesummit.org/news/GW1.php
"Other than our Governments, who do Muslims think they’re fooling?"
They are fooling MILLIONS of Leftists, and millions more of others who have been infected by the Leftist PC multi-culturalist pathology.
"Perfect questions Muslim-wards, perfectly phrased."
They need to be phrased LEFT-WARDS, not Muslim-wards.
The islamists only need to fool the government and they are doing a good job Rice Bush Kennedy both sides of the isle think they understand which of course they don't. As we the people get more pissed off at the obvious and make weak demands such as CAIR condemming terrorists who are islamists. They will eventually do that but only when they think they are sbout to lose control over the ones who run our government. Don't forget they have been expoliting politics for centuries when they take over a society. What you call for above will be done and then they can point to you and say you are wrong. The action needed to be taken is far more drastic than paddy cake.
Take that video, multiply the attendance by 10,000 and you have a peak into the future..
Moose
DC Watson states,
"Even worse is that their primary concern seems to be with "backlash" against Muslims in response to this attack, just as they were larger concerned only about “backlash” after all the other Islamic atrocities."
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You have hit that nail squarely on its head and you may be interested in the "backlash" which is "already" occurring.
"Muslim suffering" at its finest:
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British minorities suffer backlash
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/F2872A81-804C-40A0-BE39-076D7EF63B0D.htm
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P.S. Good article
"I think this type of terrorism has very deep roots"....
--- from Blair's remarks above
This is the only true thing he uttered. The rest is nonsense. The rest of what he says -- about poverty, and the Israeli-"Palestinian business, where the lamb is supposed to lie down with the Jihadist lion and all manner of things shall be well, and the general line of approach, the equivalent in figuring out what the problem is as would be our beating the bushes along with O. J. Simpson in order to find the real killer. All Blair, annoying, because in this country annoyingly overrated and misunderstood Blair, has to do is to study Islam.
That's right. All he has to do is to study the theory and the practice of Islam. That means NOT relying on Muslims to teach him, for they will lie about it. Or offer up sly apologetics. Or insist that this line must not be "taken out of context" or this passage (one which may be irrelevant because abrogated as so many of the "milder" so-called Meccan verses have been)must be taken seriously.
Ibn Warraq speaks wonderful English. He would be happy, I am sure, to offer a little private tutorial to Tony Blair. And then he could learn that Qur'an he likes to carry about, or did, is not all that matters. There are the Hadith, and those Hadith are constantly referred to by Muslims, and the more "activist" of them, the more "immoderate" of them, are particularly fond of referring to the Sunna, that is the sum of the Hadith and of the Sira, Muhammad's biography, for the sayings and acts and even silences of Muhammad, as preserved (or believed by Muslims to be preserved) in the Hadith and Sira, need to be studied by him.
And then there is what one calls the "Practice of Islam." That is, the history of Islam, and the history not only of its spread, almost entirely through initial military conquest and then through creating such intolerable local conditions that the non-Muslims, if not killed (as tens of millions of Hindus were), nor immediately converted, may over time convert to avoid the humiliation, degradation, and expense of life as dhimmis. If Blair knows nothing of this, then there are a few books he should read.
He could read Robert Spencer's studies of the tenets of Islam. He could read the work of such defectors as Ibn Warraq in "Why I Am Not a Muslim" and the collection of testimonies of ex-Muslims gathered in "Leaving Islam." He could read four books by Bat Ye'or -- "The Dhimmi," "Islam and Dhimmitude," "The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam," and the new one, "Eurabia."
Blair likes to vacation. Last year he was Berlusconi's guest in, I think, Sardinia -- Cala di Volpe? Somewhere. And Berlusconi, greeting him, was wreathed in smiles, and in a bandanna that was hiding his then-recent operation, his hair transplant, a bandanna that put one in mind of the turban that Wanda Osiris used to wear, in the old days on Italian television, before the boom, when Italy was povera ma bella, and still in a good mood. They had a lot of fun, those vacationers. But Blair can't afford a vacation. He's got some studying to do. He has got to find out about Islam, instead of repeating his own cliches, and the variations on the shared stupidities of the age, before it is too late.
We don't take vacations. We work. Blair should too. This is too important. He does not know enough. Whereof we do not know, thereof we should not speak. But he speaks. All the time. It's his job, you see. He is supposed to rally the British. He is supposed to instruct the British. He is supposed to formulate things, if not in all their grim directness, at least obliquely but tending to, or hinting at, the truth, rather than undercutting it.
This he is not doing. He is failing England, despite all the nonsense about his quasi-Churchillian tone. He is not up to it. Nor, alas, is anyone else in the Western world -- or so it seems.
What is to be done?
One more thing to say about D. C. Watson's piece -- the title "Other than our governments, who do Muslims think they are fooling?" is brilliant.
Skeet,
Thanks for the link. Unlike the Islamic attacks that took over 50 lives while injurying and maiming hundreds of other citizens, it doesn't seem that anyone has died in these so-called attacks on Muslims. Yet Muslims are quick to complain about backlash and to call on Tony Blair to codemn attacks on Muslims. How typical, how arrogant.With each passing day Muslims reveal the ugly face of islam and the world is taking note.
DC thanks for another great article.
It might be useful to recall Mrs. Tony Blair's comments of a few years back concerning the motives of those who bomb buses:
Last update - 08:33 19/06/2002
Cherie Blair apologizes for comments on suicide bombers
By News Agencies
A spokeswoman for the wife of Prime Minister Tony Blair apologized on her behalf Tuesday for saying that young Palestinian suicide bombers feel that they have no hope but to blow themselves up.
"If any offense has been taken from the interpretation of her comments, then Mrs. Blair is obviously sorry," said the spokeswoman on customary condition of anonymity. "She did not, and never would she, ever condone suicide bombers or say they had no choice."
"As long as young people feel they have got no hope but to blow themselves up you are never going to make progress," said Mrs. Blair, as she joined Queen Rania of Jordan at the launch of a £500,000 ($730,000) charity appeal for Medical Aid for Palestinians, just hours after the suicide bombing in Jerusalem in which 19 people were killed and 50 others were wounded.
The British opposition Conservative Party condemned her remarks.
"These are most unfortunate words by the prime minister's wife," the party's foreign affairs spokesman Michael Ancram said. "These words will cause massive offence to the families of schoolchildren and others whose lives were brutally and criminally ended this morning.
"There can never be any justification for terrorist violence, particularly of the kind we saw in Israel this morning," Ancram said.
The Israeli embassy in London said it regretted that "any public statements, which might be interpreted as expressing understanding for Palestinian terrorism, should be made, particularly on a day on which 19 innocent Israeli lives were taken by a suicide bomber from Hamas."
Tony Blair insisted his wife had merely stressed that the path to a peace deal lay through negotiations, not violence.
"I hope that no one misdescribes her sentiments or mine," Blair told reporters in his Downing Street office. "Everybody in this situation feels nothing but the deepest sympathy for the people that lost their lives in the latest terrorist attack.
"But of course it is true that we need to make sure that there is hope for the future and the hope lies in a political process taking the place of the extremists, the terrorists and the suicide bombers," Blair said.
"I am quite sure that was what Cherie was saying."
The two women embraced on the steps of the charity's office in Islington in north London. They then watched a presentation by charity chairman Andrew Green in the presence of Jordanian Ambassador Timoor Daghistani.
Afterwards, Queen Rania said: "Today's events are a clear reminder that both sides of the conflict are suffering. It is also clear that the suffering cannot continue."
She called for a political solution to end Israeli occupation of Palestinian areas and for security for Israelis.
"Delaying the political peace process inevitably exposes more innocent civilians on both sides to grave danger," she said.
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=177675&contrassID=1&subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=0
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Of course, this was another non-apology apology.
And Western governments continue to spread this mythology- just read husband Tony's comment to the BBC today ( see comment above ) and Hugh's dissection of the same.
God Bless you Mr. Spencer... God Bless you, indeed.
Now do the British still want Turkey to join the EU?
How many muslim terrorists will be able to slip over Turkey's borders from Iran etc if Turkey is part of the EU?
I would like to thank you, Mr. Spencer, for all your efforts and all the people in JW. It dawned on me that people in this very important blog, caught up in the heat of the events and the discussions, often forget to properly express their gratitude for your tireless service and for literally putting your neck on the line to warn the world and expose the Jihad conspiracy… A latter-day prophet, indeed.
They know exactly who they’re fooling. They’ve been doing it for a long time. And it’s not always Western governments.
Example:
SusanP’s skeptical Nashville friends, even though this event was documented over several consecutive days in a Nashville newspaper
The Great Nashville Qur’an desecration
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050624/NEWS01/506240401/1006/NEWS
Example:
The British People
This is the very public face of Islam in London. And has been for a long time.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/LordNagash/islam_wil_dominate_the_world.jpg
Example:
Others, right here in America.
A public desecration of an American flag, by Muslims, in Queens, New York.
http://www.intelligencesummit.org/news/GW1.php
While we’re waiting for everyday Muslims to express their outrage on the ‘Western street’, we get this instead.
Isn't it a funny that these show pony shonky whacka Muslims would call emergency services over a deflated Koran?
Did they call the paramedics as well?
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050624/NEWS01/506240401/1006/NEWS
Another fine (and informative)article by DC Watson.
Right on the money...Hugh is right about the title...
Lets not overlook the other scam by Muslims where they vandalize their own Mosques and businesses to re-enforce the "Victim" mind set,I say this because every time there's a Jihadist attack that slaugters civilians for Allah the Muslims counter the murders with bogus "Islamophobic" hate-crimes.
There have been a few claims of vandalism to Mosques in my area but the media has yet to
report on one arrest,a suspicous fire happened one night and low and behold the custodian that lived there was awake to call 9/11.
The mosque used to be a one storey red brick
business head office that had that standard late-50's design with very few windows and it was on a lightly used sidestreet and set back a bit with just a few homes scattered along it.
Seems the "Females" enterance had the small awning set afire and one of the walls had "Jesus rules" spray painted on it after a B-and-E by these hoodlums that were later discribes as drunken Christian rednecks( that's from Muslim leader even though no arrests have been made)
acting on ignorance about the peaceful ways of islam and that Jesus is shared by Muslims and is in the Quran.
Police were forced to call this a hate-crime and bow down to appease Muslims with paying Cops to park outside the mosque at night in fear of another attack.
Right,and when those imaginery drunk redneck Christians show up the Cops will be right there to cuff the Custodian who might have been the one to start the fire and then phone 9/11.
So lets call in Columbo and give him the facts
and show him the evidence.
On a weeknight a groups of Christians get drunk
and decide to drive..oops sorry,walk ( no one reported hearing a car on the remote road that was also a dead end ) all the way to a building
set back from the road and has a dimly lit parking lot,they then use their lighters (they smoke too because they're the "bad" Christians) to set afire a enterance cover. Then they break down a door or window to get inside and with no
lights to see properly they pull out a spray paint can and deface the wall with "Jesus Rules" in florenscent green and then flee the area
because the custodian now smelt the smoke form the awning.
One case we had there was a business owner
that vandalized his store for a insurance claim,he did it after a punk ( now sentenced for damage to a jewish cemetery and spraying sawstika's on headstones) attacked the Jewish community and the Muslim even put a swastika
on the wall for effect.
truely a sorry bunch of people, and poor Allah,all that power and yet can't catch the vandals to prove "Islamophobia" .
"It's not Islam..."
Today on CNN: The Spanish Interior minister, forgot his name.
Seems that none of them can get themselves to face the music.
DC-
Hard hitting, right to the solar plexus of the problem of Muslims' true sympathies and no punches pulled. Bravo.
The Western governments are becoming comedy relief to the tragedy of Ismalic Imperialistic insanity.
The Muslim jihadists kill -and then the p.c. clown car of 'keep things calm' G8-teers rolls in to throw confetti in the air and utter magic words to palcate the demons and pacify the wounded.
So far, this political prestidigitation has worked.
And all it does is guarantee greater slaughter by denying the meaning of the current carnage.
And it gives comfort to the enemy by refusing to name them, even as they name themselves.
As Nietzsche's 'madman' noted:
"I come spoken to soon. The sound has not yet reached your ears."
The auditory hallucination continues.
Maybe it will take a WMD to break the spell.
Meanwhile, for our Italian allies (the few there are):
E il Koran stupido!
For the Germans:
Es ist das Koran, Sie idiot!
And for French:
C'est le Quran, stupide!
For Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld and Rove:
"It's the Koran, stupid!"
I would give all my toenails to hear any one of them say:
"It is time to ask whether the Muslims in our land can honestly claim that they swear allegiance to anything but the Koran, which means that they have come to our nation under false pretenses, and, because of this fraudulent conflict of interests, we need to start sending all of them back to their own lands until they reform their faith, and we may then learn to slowly trust them."
(I think my nails are safer than Tony Blair's Qur'an.)
The London Sunday Times has this in apparent contradiction to Blair's claim of poverty as one of the reasons:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0%2C%2C2087-1688261%2C00.html
"Leaked No 10 dossier reveals Al-Qaeda’s British recruits"
"AL-QAEDA is secretly recruiting affluent, middle-class Muslims in British universities and colleges to carry out terrorist attacks in this country, leaked Whitehall documents reveal."
It isn’t because they’re poor
On Tuesday, November 4, 2004, Tamimi gave a television interview to Tim Sebastian (BBC HARDTalk), and this dialogue took place:
Tamimi: Not a single person of those who bomb themselves, bomb themselves because they are desperate or poor. It doesn't happen because of this. They do it because they want to sacrifice themselves for a cause after all avenues have been closed before them. If the Palestinians today are given F16s and Apache helicopters ...
If we ever called the police because
one of our Bibles got burned, theyd
laugh us off the phone-line.
Excellent assessment of the threat and how we need to respond. If the so-called 'moderate Muslims' don't respond with more vigor, then we can assume they 'enable' the fundamentalists by their silence and since we must save our civilization, we will do whatever we have to do to preserve our way of life.
DC Watson,
Another outstanding article that tells it like it is...
DC Watson - Thank you. They aren't fooling me or anyone that will listen to what I have to say.
The silence by Muslims over this slaughter is absolutely deafening and goes all the way up to Gods throne.
In Canada far too many Muslims are saying the Brits are paying for the killing of Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq,the condemning of the bombings and violence Via Jihad now comes with that familiar "BUT" that drags up the Crusades and Gitmo prison.
A time will come for them when they'll find themselves sliding all the way down to hell on their "Buts". Muhammed tricked his enemy by faking a truce so they would disarm and make an attack successful,he slaughtered an entire village and a Middle East website stated he used children so they could sahre in the easy victory
that would be swift and deadly.
Seems the Western Qurans left that part out and portrays him as the Prince of Peace,but I guess once you murdered all the people that don't agree with you the Peace is much easier to maintain.
The silence by Muslims over this slaughter is absolutely deafening and goes all the way up to Gods throne.
In Canada far too many Muslims are saying the Brits are paying for the killing of Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq,the condemning of the bombings and violence Via Jihad now comes with that familiar "BUT" that drags up the Crusades and Gitmo prison.
A time will come for them when they'll find themselves sliding all the way down to hell on their "Buts". Muhammed tricked his enemy by faking a truce so they would disarm and make an attack successful,he slaughtered an entire village and a Middle East website stated he used children so they could sahre in the easy victory
that would be swift and deadly.
Seems the Western Qurans left that part out and portrays him as the Prince of Peace,but I guess once you murdered all the people that don't agree with you the Peace is much easier to maintain.
Yesterday I posted Tony Blair's comments blaming the London bombing on Israel. Seems that the AP, in it's normal mode of trying to promote greater antisemitism in the world, made up the entire story. Here's the "correction" from AP:
Correction: Bombings-Blair Story 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
LONDON - In a July 9 story about Prime Minister Tony Blair's comments on overcoming global terrorism, The Associated Press erroneously reported that he spoke of easing the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. Blair did not specifically mention the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in his interview with the British Broadcasting Corp.