Australia: Masked gang attacks controversial cleric

"A coordinated hate campaign against the nation's radical Muslims." Well, we must protect them at all costs! Imagine: a coordinated hate campaign against those who preach the violent overthrow of the Australian state and its replacement by a government that will make non-Muslims in Australia a despised inferior class!

I am not, of course, in favor of vigilantism. But if the Australian government were not tolerating the likes of Abu Bakr, attacks like these would not occur. From The Australian, with thanks to Tombeth:

CONTROVERSIAL Melbourne Islamic cleric Nacer Benbrika has been kidnapped and bashed, fuelling fears of a co-ordinated hate campaign against the nation's radical Muslims.

The Australian understands that Mr Benbrika - who has described Osama bin Laden as a great man - was kidnapped and bashed last week by two carloads of men wearing balaclavas.

Mr Benbrika is said to believe that the attack was ordered by ASIO or the Australian Federal Police, a claim that has been denied by authorities. The assault, which ended in Mr Benbrika being treated in hospital, came less than 48 hours after former terror suspect Mamdouh Habib claimed he was stabbed in a Sydney park, also by hooded assailants.

It also comes amid a community backlash against radical Muslim clerics in Australia in the wake of the London bombings.

Mr Benbrika, who is also known as Abu Bakr, has raised the ire of Prime Minister John Howard by openly supporting jihad overseas and claiming that local Muslims must adhere to two sets of laws - Islamic law and Australian law.

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Or is this more taqiyya?

A 'Reichstag Fire' bit of bluff to gain sympathy?

The Muslim who cried "Islamophobia" is going to find it harder and harder to get sympathy as people learned what there is to rationally have a phobia about Islam.

Vigilantism is too Mohammad-like for my taste.

Change the laws to eject the Fifth Column.

Do it right, and do it fast.

Or the West just will not last.

"I am not, of course, in favor of vigilantism. But if the Australian government were not tolerating the likes of Abu Bakr, attacks like these would not occur." Robert Spencer

"I am not, of course, in favor of vigilantism. But if the Negro bucks were not looking at white women, attacks like these would not occur." KKK Grand Kleagle

"I am not, of course, in favor of vigilantism. But if the infidel women were modestly dressed, attacks like these would not occur." Anonymous mullah

call me crazy, but if you preach violence at a certain target group, and they respond with the same then didnt you bring it upon yourself? maybe im looking at this wrong. i remember being taught the 'golden rule' as a child: do unto others as you wish done unto you. its really that simple and it is the primary and i think singular problem with radical islam. radical islam preaches hatred and violence against just about everyone else whos not a muslim.

how in the world can they sit back and complain when they who preach it are greeted with the same? do unto others. if they really dont like it, maybe they should change their tune, and learn to get along. problem is, radical islam never will.

i just think the hypocrisy of this with regards to the muslims involved is hilarious.

eff

Just kick them out of the civilized world, force them back to their islamic paradises. They are preaching our destruction in our lands...self preservation is a good thing!

Without wishing to sound as paranoid as my muslim betters (the CIA and the Zionists blew up the World Trade Centre)I am far from convinced that this "attack" actually occurred.

I have seen film of muslims in Bosnia mortar-shelling the funeral of a fellow muslim to gain sympathy by blaming it on Serbs. I believe it was in a BBC documentary.

I have also seen a man in the "occupied territories" who was "killed by the Zionist aggressors" do the impossible and rise from the dead after his "body" was carried through the streets before the usual calm, sombre crowd of pious muslims. A helicopter filmed him making off with the alacrity of a rat up a drainpipe!

Confirmation by a completely uninvolved infidel third party would go a long way toward convincing me that this event actually occurred.

While vigilantism is still not right, they didn't cut his head off, or anything like that!!! If all they did was rough him up a little that is perhaps a better fate than what he would have planned for his or his associates random, innocent, and annonomous victims. Seems to me as though he may have gotten off rather lightly!

Wow. Nazis beaten up. Hoist on their own intolerance, one might say. Will the world shed a tear?

I predict: nope.

Prophet Geoff

Oh Cappy, you Islamophobe you!!

Finally, we see signs of a little of the spine and grit that Australians used to have before they were emasculated by multiculturalist inanities. Frankly, they should have strung him up like Mussolini was.

Given the description of the attacker's costumes, I personally think it was the Hamas morality police.

How does one gage the point at which tolerance may begin to collapse?

After witnessing the bombings in the UK that have way to long tolerated these facist goons with their never ending hateful ideology that openly threatens the people and the countries they reside in with death and destruction.

One wonders if there will be a breaking point in the efforts to be tolerant. If authorities fail to respond to acts of sedition and treason and foolishly consider it freedom of speech. How long can western society openly allow madrasses, and mosques to preach hate,and death destruction of western ideals and not have free societies begin to stand up to this scourge that is constantly coming at them?

Do we once again have to wait for more attacks on the people of western societies from this hateful ideology? At what point could or will lawless behavior break loose? What will it take before free societies scream ; enough is enough! Can tolerance reach a breaking point?

Like the leves' that broke in New Orleans and now the city is all but lost and yet they knew this threat was a always a real possibility.

Can we be prepared when the leves of tolerance begin to collapse that support our free and western Ideals before it becomes to late?

Do we understand and recognize the threat that is coming our way? Are we able to fully identify its potential impact on us as if it where a hurricane like Katrina?

Thats why sites like Jihad Watch are so important as they Constantly are gaging the impact of the storms of Islamofacism throughout the world.

Note to 1.2 billion muslims, there are over 5 billion people who aren't muslim. We are waking up.

Norseman:

Your noted analogies simply do not apply as there is quite difference between people who are threatening our lives and racism, and the way infidel women dress.

Norseman;

Okay, maybe I'm not awake yet, but...WTF!!!

I hope your post is sarcastic. Equating Mr. Spencer's quote to the other 2 is really out there.

With a total lack of leadership in the West - nah, a total lack of willingness to identify the enemy within (Islam), vigilantism will grow & prosper in all Western Societies.

It is inevitable.

I doubt that this happened. If he had been abducted & beaten we would have an army of Al-BBCeera & Al-Guardian journalists clocking up the airmiles as I write - feverously striding the globe to interview the latest Muslim victim of "The War on Terror".

Then of course would be the pictures & the video sent poste haste to Al-Jazeera, with the accompanyimng story of Western "intolerance" & "oppression" of "good Muslims".

I can see it now - Nacer Benbrika holding a baby to his chest, a weeping wife or two in the background.....

No, this did not happen. This is just a little piece of "predictive propaganda" - because they know, & we know, that such incidents will happen & multiply if the Dhimmitude of the Wests rulers continues.

If we are forced to protect ourselves through direct action against the threat within, who could blame us?

Norseman, shut your gator hole mate. Your remarks are out of line and out of touch.

Stop being such a teeny donger.

albion:

Please check back to the DW Aug 29 "Fitzgerald . . ." thread and let me know either here or there whether or not you've seen my response to your post.

Thanks.

People in the non-Muslim World (with the exception of a couple of countries in Africa where non-Muslims have on occasion understandably rioted & torched back at their ever-encroaching Muslim Jihadists) have so far shown Herculean self-restraint at the astoundingly audacious atrocities perpetrated over and over and over again by Muslims in so many places around the world.

One cannot reasonably expect this tolerant Hercules or Atlas to continue holding up a World unified by a multiculturalist desire to include in the Family of Man an Islam hostile to non-Muslim Mankind: the World we bear will become considerably lighter and more manageable the less that Islam carries weight in it. Those who continue to obstruct our reasonable preventive measures will be morally responsible for the horrible yet tragically necessary measures we may be forced to take when the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back (a suitcase bomb here, a mass chemical attack there) makes the multicultural World too much to bear any longer.

This must surely be a case of people taking matters into their own hands because of a perceived lack of action on the part of the ruling class(es). We may yet see a lot more of this sort of thing in the coming weeks and months ahead.

Extremism and extremist actions flourish where and when people feel helpless when faced with a foe.

This may well be the tip of the iceberg.

Greetings CGW:

I have kept checking to see IA's response - alas to no avail.

Happy to make your day!

Help yourself, anytime.

Best regards
Albion

Anthony posted: I have seen film of muslims in Bosnia mortar-shelling the funeral of a fellow muslim to gain sympathy by blaming it on Serbs. I believe it was in a BBC documentary.

You are right. It was on the BBC. The BBC made much of this incidence, and it was one of the reasons that persuaded the US and Britain to attack the Serbs.

The truth did come out in the end, as British Army mortar tracking radar revealed, that the fire was coming from muslim positions. The BBC NEVER admitted this failure in lapse of broadcasting standards.

Mr Spencer turned out to be prophetically right. And the more government denial of Islamist threat we see, the more people will feel compelled to take matters into their own hands.

One way or another, it's greatly heartening to see that Muslim extremism is being fought and more and more people realize that the threat of Islamic militancy is real. Bravo, mates!

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dolphin, CAGE co-founder.
http://www.acage.org

At the risk of sounding like I'm NOT a card-carrying, P.E.T.A., N.O.W., Cindy Shehan-admiring liberal,


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Payback's a mf-er, eh Mullah?

"As ye sew, so shall ye reap."

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Instant Karma's coming to get you!

Who's next?

You got SERVED.

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Ah, that's better. I'll be damned, it looks like the Australian vigilantes have more balls than the Militias of America and the Skinhead/Soccer Hooligans of England. Lead the way, lads!

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OF COURSE now the MSM will be full of sympathy for the poor, suffering, oppressed Muslims of Australia, just like they are for the Muslims of India every since the BJP took power, even though they relinquished power years ago.

Damn right it could've been a Reichstag fire ploy to help the Mobots.

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Norseman, you've got a point. But one has to fight fire with fire. Robert Spencer isn't anyone's leader, cult leader, spiritual leader, etc. (That I know of, that is. Hugh on the other hand, HE'D make a GREAT cult leader!)

If Spencer or anyone else tells me to go out and beat the hell out of someone, they can forget it.

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Unbridled said: Norseman, shut your gator hole mate.

"Gator hole".... good one. I live in Florida; there are gators here too. I thought in Australia you called them crocs, because they are actually crocodiles. I assume you are an Aussie because you called him "mate." You should've told him to shut his Croc hole. I am partial to "shut yer pie hole".

I have to wonder if these were real or staged attacks.Not unlike when a wife is attacked and killed in a "robbery" while her much stronger husband suffers a minor arm or head injury.Both of these "clerics" seemed to have suffered minor injuries which allowed them to remain alert enough to complain to police and the news media. I'm also reminded of Muslims who have staged attacks on their own property. The attacks turned out to be:

a) Attempts to gain sympathy by crying Islamophobia.
b) Attempts to steal money through phony insurance scams.

Muslims have a history of this type of dishonesty. Remember the Muslim soldier who was "kidnapped" in Iraq and threatened with beheading?A videotape of him blindfolded with a sword over his head was shown on Al Jazzera. Somehow he "escaped" and ended up in Lebanon. When last seen he was being courtmartial by the US military for desertion and other crimes.

I agree with Anthony and Roxane. I suspect this attack was staged to create a victim of one and a victim of a whole "race," the Muslims. Just recently, I saw a question and answer segment from a newspaper in Australia. Ten leading imans were asked five or six questions about Islam and actions taken by Muslims. If I remember correctly, 9 out of 10 did not or would not give credit to OBL for the 9/ll attacks and more than half would not admit to the fact that Muslims were responsible for the London attacks. They cited concerns about the reliablity of the press, Muslims wouldn't do such a terrible act, references to "others"(Jews?) doing the deed. The survey was simple but appalling. Perhaps the Muslims needed to remind the Aussies again of their eternal victimhood after the truth slipped out, hence the "attack" on Mr. Brinbika.

Who was that masked man?

Zorro or the Lone Ranger.

KJ said "I am partial to "shut yer pie hole".
Personally I am partial to pies.
When I was a child the phrase was "shut yer cake hole" I am also partial to cake.

Levity aside, if this really did happen, then it is on a par with the reports of hate threats 24 hours after the London bombs which turned out to be one broken window and some badly spelled e-mails.

The IRA would have had his knee caps. Islamic kidnappers would have had his severed head on CD within the hour.

Citizens taking matters into their own hands, at least in a place like Australia, means voting.

If the government doesn't respond to the wishes of the people, why blame the government? If you won't vote for better people, there you are. If you do vote but don't bother to involve your mates and community members so the better group represents you as a majority rather than a lot of scum pandering to the cliques, you pretty well get what and who you deserve.

If most people in the nation are too stupid to figure out what's in their best interest and in the best interest of the nation, why bother staying with them? Rather than taking a minority position and acting as a law outside the law against the wishes of the stupid majority whom you might know better than, just leave them. You have no right in a free country to act as the law in opposition to the law of the majority.

Even the worst of the Mulsim dirt-bags have rights the same as you. Equally they have responsibilities.If the majority of your country men refuse to impose law and order on the minority behaviours, why stay in such a place?

Well, since it might well be your place, and since you might well feel you have a right to defend yourself against terrorism and murder, you have a responsibility to work with others like-minded to change the nature of the governance of the nation. Start a political party, run for office, get elected. If you and your ideas aren't more attractive to the people you live among than Islamic fascists who kill civilians riding buses, working in offices, dancing in night-clubs, sitting in schoolrooms, then you're really not very competent to do much of anything at all. And if you're truly so much smarter than the rest, even at the level of ordinary common-sense and self-preservation, and they still don't want you, really, it's time to go somewhere else because you could never be well-adjusted in a place like that, nor would you ever want to be.

If your government is illegitimate, opposed to the will of the people, in position due only to force of arms, then it's up to you to fight back and over-throw them by force. I don't see that illegitimacy in Australia.

Muslims, as I'm fond of pointing out, are a police matter. Our business is the destruction of Islam.

However much I might actually applaud the ripping out of a Muslim jihadi's spine and smashing his brains on the pavement over and over again, it's only my secret phantasy that I don't ever let others know about. In cases of real emergency in the face of crime I tend to quote Homer:

"What's the number for nine one one?"

I think the actions of this gang have just been...............Taken out of context.

US Infidel writes:
"A government that is unable or unwilling to defend its citizens has no right to exist, in which case vigilantism is justified."

I agree with what you say. In the USA many have already had enough of the political correctness on illegal aliens entering our country and they formed the Minutemen. Why? Because the louses in political office weren't doing anything about it. Now that they see and understand the anger several Governors have responded by issuing "state of emergencies" on the border. Lo and behold, even the Dept. of Homeland Security got into the act and that is what it is supposed to do...protect our borders and citizenry. These political hacks only did it for their own survival though, (take Gov. Bill Richardson, for example, who recently applauded illegal aliens coming into his state of New Mexico and now has declared an "alien" state of emergency).
I am surprised that there have not been a fair number of radical muslims in the US, who spew their filthy tripe, already getting their asses whipped in the US. I won't be surprised if and when it does happen. We know what these bastards want to do and have done to our country already so how long before we've had enough of them living in our country spewing their hatred for us and our way of life before the Muslim Minutemen is formed?

I think the actions of this gang have just been...............Taken out of context.

They appear to have been representatives of "the Mob of Peace."

f.g.

From the Australian

Mr Benbrika is under surveillance by ASIO and the AFP, but sources said yesterday that authorities would have intervened if they had witnessed the bashing.

There is some reason to doubt whether this attack took place or not.

YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW!!!!!

Chirac orders action as more immigrants die

The president demanded that unspecified "measures" be taken to "avoid dramas such as this". But his response was soon trumped by that of his former protege and rival, Nicolas Sarkozy.

The ambitious interior minister called for the country's squats and unsafe hostels to be shut down.

"All these squats and all these buildings have to be closed to stop these tragedies," he told France Inter radio. "We're talking about human beings living in unacceptable conditions. By accepting these people who, unfortunately, we can't offer work or housing, we find ourselves in a situation where we have these tragedies."

Mr Sarkozy is leading a crackdown on illegal immigration, which he numbers at between 200,000 and 400,000.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=KCW1BSICWTDV3QFIQMFSNAGAVCBQ0JVC?xml=/news/2005/08/31/wparis31.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/08/31/ixportal.html

If the attack really occurred and the Islam-misunderstanderer Banbrika actually got a taste of what he preaches, to quote Whistling Dixie, my give a damn's all busted.

If it did occur, it's more likely to have been a bunch of his fellow jihadists who were unhappy that he was not taking a hard-enough line against the infidels.

Islam kills, Islam dies.

The Mohammedan troll who posts as 'norseman' is fooling himself if he thinks we are obliged to protect those who want to harm us.


Unfortunately we was not hanged from the next tree. For him, who has no place in Australia, to be allowed to remain, baffles me and many others who would like to see ALL OF THESE CREEPS shipped out TODAY, not tomorrow!

'Norseman' in typical fashion tries to deflect and obfuscate the issue:
"if the infidel women were modestly dressed, attacks like these would not occur."

What you call 'modesty' norseman, is highly offensive to me!

Infidel women are none of your business, norseman! They are free to dress whichever way they like. Does that bother you? In fact I think we infidels should all feel free to rip off the rags from the female 'believers', who offend everyone with their parasitic presence, with their submission to slavery and the Islamic perversion which they try to impose on us and on any other host country!

An infidel life counts for very little in an Islamic country. Walk past a mosque after Friday prayers and you have a good chance to end up dead.

Why should we, long suffering infidels, insulted and abused by ever increasing hordes of infil-traitors who go about their subversive activities under the cloak of 'religion', not become vigilant and give your 'clerics' a good thrashing 'wherever we find them?'

Did Norseman really want to draw parallels between:

tolerating the likes of Abu Bakr

Negro bucks were not looking at white women

infidel women were modestly dressed

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I agree. Mysogyny, racism, and tolerance of terrorists must all be done away with.

I think the actions of this gang have just been...............Taken out of context.

They appear to have been representatives of "the Mob of Peace."

f.g.


now THAT was as perfectly stated as could possibly be. well done, and i have to say i agree one hundred percent. must suck for the mullah to have the shoe on the OTHER foot for a change.

personally i think its funny. yeah, thats right, im gloating. about time one of those hate spewing, evil little peices of garbage who preach radical islam get a taste of his OWN MEDICINE.

and i have to say, kudos to the australians for showing they will not back down to these little nazi radicals.

yup, thats right i will not shed one tear over this. in fact, id probably buy the lads who did it a pint or two of bitter at the local if i had the chance. perhaps if this sort of thing became commonplace, the islamic nazis would not feel so eager to wage and preach jihad where we live. perhaps theyd all scurry back under their rocks or retreat back to the dank, dark caves they deserve to live in.

eff

note to self;
next time videotape Mad Imam's blanket party and
send to Al Jazeera..don't forget to have everyone standing about brandishing their Boffo-Bats..

I find it almost impossible to believe that anyone could misunderstand my earlier post, but it appears that some did fail to get the point. So let me try again.

Mr Spencer has repeatedly condemned Muslim spokesmen for what he sees as equivocation in their statements opposing the use of violence against the infidel. In particular, he points out that there is always a "but" clause in their statements.

It appears to me that Mr Spencer is engaging in precisely the same behavior for which he condemns Muslims. That is, he smugly claims that he is "... not, of course, in favor of vigilantism", but then procedes to justify such actions on the grounds that the democratically elected authorities refuse to do as he wishes.

This is, I believe, hypocritical doublespeak. One might think that after his deplorable behavior in the New Jersey case of the torture killings of the Coptic family, when he was almost foaming at the mouth in his eagerness to see lynch mobs hunting down Muslims, Mr Spencer might be more circumspect in his calls for extralegal actions.

It never occurred to our jihadist Islamic friends that two can play at their game.

Muslims by their own admission preach and practice hate and slaughter of other human beings (whom they call infidels or kaffir). Islam's equivalent of a bible, the supposedly "glorious" Qur'an, states: "and when the sacred months have passed, slay the infidels everywhere they are found....." Quote unquote. That is hate and an attempt at legalizing what we in civilized places call "MURDER."

Muslims have taken it upon themselves to accept this horrible stuff as the truth and spread it around the world--with the ghastly results in plain view for all mankind to see....

Those who have been at the receiving of the Sword of the Prophet reserve the right to return the favor to these folks.

It is virtually impossible to feel pity toward jihadists like Benbrika. Besides, isn't their paradise 'under the shade of the swords'???


This incident can probably be filed under the Hooper "Cry Wolf" files in which he claims that hate crimes committed against Muslims in the United States have of late been skyrocketing...

And the dish ran away with the spoon.

Norseman said "he was almost foaming at the mouth in his eagerness to see lynch mobs hunting down Muslims"

"Deplorable behavior?" You mean like publishing news articles about the status of the investigation, including the resolution? I think we can see who is foaming at the mouth.

Norseman;

If you choose to be an apologist or even an appeaser for the actions of muslims who preach sedition in the country they live in, that is your right. However Mr.Spencer is simply stating a fact that there are people that will simply not stand for or tolerate those that preach this kind of hate and may take actions into their own hands if the Government fails to act as they have in the case of the UK.

Read my comment above on gaging tolerance. The trouble with trying to be always politically correct is that it tends to be a one way street.

I don't believe any such attack occurred. I believe this is all part of the whole mythical "backlash" thing Muslims are trying to convince us of. The other week, Mamdouh Habib, Gitmo graduate, was also "attacked". With a knife. He showed his wound - it looked like his wife scratched him. He and his wife were apparently going for a walk in a nearby park. At midnight. No other witnesses. My BS meter went into the red zone, just as it has for this alleged attack.

It's a trend. Remember the brouhaha over the supposed Koran desecrations? Remember how there was a sudden flurry of those things? Now, this "backlash" is the latest trend. Muslims are very busy nurturing that fairy tale, trying to convince us its a reality.

The other night, there was a forum of Muslims on the TV. The backlash myth came up and one non-Muslim audience member said that Muslims "weren't copping it as bad as the 88 dead Australians in Bali." The Muslim sitting next to him, shook his head, and with an aggrieved, pitiful look on his face, said "Oh, yes we have." Can you believe that? To equate a few dirty looks and name calling (if that even happened) with people being murdered? I'd like to have seen him say that to a parent who lost their son or daughter in Bali. I get so angry every time I hear of this backlash myth. It's them spitting on the graves of the victims of Islam-inspired attacks, and laughing in the faces of the loved ones of the murdered. They disgust me.

Norseman:

This is not an exercise in PC:

We are exercising freedom of speech, yes, some of us may let off a bit more steam than necessary, but this is certainly not meant to please our Mohammedan infil-traitors, like yourself...

After all, we want them out!

We want to be free of Islam-terror, and as another poster above rightly pointed out: Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword!

Do you really think we should all just lie down and let the Mohammedan scourge take over?

I am herewith issuing Boffo Bat squad Fatwah on islamist hate preachers; they are now vulnerable
to abduction by Boffos and slapped silly with neoprene bats..videoed and held for Big-Macs
and fries ransom..

wait, wait we further demand three sausage egg and cheese bisquits WITH CHEESE ..4 hash browns,,and 3 3 of those apple thingies..

Oh how wonderful it is as an Aussie to live in a tolerant laid back multi-cultural society.

We are indeed tolerant of those who accept our way of life, our laws and our system of government. Yet enrich our society by bringing their own cultural differences with them.

No problems there mate - we are a richer society for the diversity.

Never mistake the laid back Aussie life style as weakness. We may not be quick to act but we sure know when our life style is under threat. Trust us to find a cheap and effective way of dealing with our problems too.

What I see is a threat being dealt with in the most cost effective way possible - not even any labour cost - nor Unions demanding overtime, payed holiday and maternity leave - just a swift - "Preach hatred - then here it is - RIGHT BACK AT YER".

OH DEAR - I forgot to add some words at the start of this post, what were they now .... Ah yes - "Not that I believe in ..." ... err ... hmm ... what was that again ? OH never mind - JUSTICE IS DONE, a valid msg delivered.

Aussie justice - quick - swift - cost effective !!

(a very unsympathetic Aussie) DOG !!

My above preceding post is of course my "angry grandfather being appeased" response.

Realistically - as follows:

I will assume that there are injuries (I have not seen a picture of him).

This is an "attack" that is supposed to have taken place AFTER WORLD WIDE news and PRAISE for the stand that our Prime Minister has taken on extremism.

Our Leader of the Opposition is in full agreement with the government stand. A Sky News poll (pay TV news channel) had 74% support (I wonder who made up the 26% ? !!).

It is just not the Aussie way to take a vigilante stand in such circumstances as it would be more logical to let the government legislate and prove that deportation will be the outcome.

It does not even make sense to take such a risk as the Aussie law WOULD deal with the perpetrators quite severely - justification is no defense. In the current political climate, taking such a step would therefore be almost insane.

Up to this point it certainly could happen but is rather unlikely - it really does take a lot to get an Aussie all fired up like that.

Let us continue:

Could he be under observation by ASIO (Australian Security and Intelligence Organisation) and (or) the AFP (Australian Federal Police) ? - YES - I would be extremely surprised if he were not under such observation.

Such observation works on the principle of "better the devil you know, than the one you do not know" plus of course providing a list of contacts.

Could such an attack occur whilst under observation ? - highly unlikely - even if such an attack started, it would not continue for long - our ASIO and AFP quite simply would intervene / follow / call for backup - whatever ASIO / AFP did, would be far more newsy in Australia than the supposed attack.

Overall - the above puts so many obstacles in the way of there being a genuine attack as to almost make it laughable.

Thus, if he was "attacked" it was a put up job. Just like the knife attack (far too superficial to be genuine - the attacker would be a danger to himself if that is all he could do).

Most likely scenario ? - he (both "attacks" actually) arranged for an attack on himself to try and gain a sympathy vote and possibly to inspire would be Islamic Jihadists in Australia.

It will NOT get a sympathy vote - the sooner our laws (to be) are tested by deporting him, the sooner we can rid this country of those who want to replace our system by a theocratic and Sharia system. It makes far more sense to wait for the government to prove itself - these are early days yet.

The ONLY danger (currently) is that any Jihadists living in Australia are probably only looking for an excuse to cause mayhem - they MAY listen - and act. I very much doubt that any such Jihadists would even care whether the attack was genuine or not - merely an excuse to make their move.

(still not sympathetic) DOG !!