From The Australian:
TEHRAN: Iran has signalled a confrontation with the West by rejecting a European Union offer to help it to build a nuclear energy program in return for scrapping operations that could lead to the production of nuclear weapons.In a terse address to parliament, Iran's conservative new President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said that such constraints would constitute a breach of his country's rights.
"We respect international norms but we will not agree to outside diktats that are illegal and violate the rights of Iran," he said. "Some governments have been trying to deprive our nation of its inalienable rights and that produces resistance in our people ... I don't know why some countries cannot understand that the Iranian people will not succumb to force."
...certain inalienable rights and among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of nuclear weapons? No, Mr. Ahmadinejad, we just don't think of that last one as a legitimate "right."
Britain, France and Germany, which have been negotiating with Iran over its nuclear ambitions for two years, have called an emergency meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency for tomorrow...The three EU countries had hoped to convince Tehran to end a nuclear-enrichment program that could be used to make weapons-grade uranium.
The proposal included an offer to help Iran build light water reactors for a civilian energy program and supply them with fuel. In return, Iran would have to abandon plans to enrich its own uranium. But the proposal was dismissed.
Humm, so the British, German and French taxpayers will supply Iran (that sits on a lake of oil) with fuel, and yet that still was not enough. How many more "rights" will they discover, I wonder?
Is the world 'fiddling' while Iran burns? Honestly, what is happening in Iran hardly makes the MSM news. This is a nation at war with the world. Wonder what Chirac thinks about his good friends? Maybe they can alter his suits to accomodate that knife handle.
The proposal included an offer to help Iran build light water reactors for a civilian energy program and supply them with fuel. In return, Iran would have to abandon plans to enrich its own uranium.
Posted by Rebecca at August 7, 2005 03:01 PM
Let there be no double standards.
The nuclear submarines have reactors that are sealed and the fuel is supplied just once for the whole life of the reactor. Why can’t such sealed reactors be supplied for civilian use? The technology is there – reserved exclusively for the military. Open up that technology to civilian use. There would be no need to have a reactor that requires the cleaning of the spent fuel rods providing the bomb material. The European Union proposal results in the nuclear radiation risk being carried by the Iranian population, while the bomb material gets accumulated in Europe. Would any European country or the USA agree to such an arrangement where their population suffers radiation exposure to help another country harvest bomb grade material?
What do we have to fear from Iran?? Our politicians tell us that Islam is a "Religion of Peace", and as Iran would have to be one of the most Islamic of all nations, in fact like Afghanistan its an Islamic paradise, nothing generally but Dar al Islam, they won't use nuclear weapons on us.........right??
So if any politician you know carries on about Iran, just remind them, that they keep telling us that Islam is a religion of peace, and Iran is full of Muslims! Show them how stupid their claims about Islam are.
Yes Mohideen Ibramsha, Iran, which has vast oil reserves and the worlds largest gas reserves, needs nuclear energy, probably so they can spread Islamic "peace" to Israel right, just like they have promised to do??
I just finished watching Alexander, while it is Hollywood, the Persians actually looked liked an advanced world power before they were Islamic. Funny how Islam has supressed a once great people.
Mohideen:
Last time you posted here you were a 'humble janitor' and praised the virtue and diligence of doing this responsible line of work.
This time, you come back as a nuclear scientist.
Naturally, you are in favor of 'nukes for Islam'- as that will definitely raise the prestige and living-standards of
"Allah's Nuclear Islamic Republic"...
Mohideen:
Last time you posted here you were a 'humble janitor' and praised the virtue and diligence of doing this responsible line of work.
This time, you come back as a nuclear scientist.
Naturally, you are in favor of 'nukes for Islam'- as that will definitely raise the prestige and living-standards of
"Allah's Nuclear Islamic Republic"...
The carrot on a stick approach hasn't worked so it's time to throw away the carrot and pick up a bigger stick. We are left with only three options in dealing with the mad mullah threat.
1)Bomb suspected nuclear facilities.
2)Invasion.
3)Naval and Land blockade.
The only option I could envision the UN backing would be the blockade. But we all know how effective that was with Iraq and it would put unfair hardship on the Iranian people (if that's even possible living in the hell they are currently in). Invasion would be ugly and there would be tens of thousands of allied casulties. I think our best option is to send in the stealths and let them do their business. We know where most of the nuke facilities are and their destruction would stop their program in the short to medium term. Of course we all will have to prepare for the terrorist backlash that has been promised us by these mad mullahs. And I hope it is the US led alliance that beats Israel to the punch as they already have enough terrorism on their hands.
Would like to see immediate strategic bombing to take out
1. nuclear facilities
2. technical and research facilities
3. infrastructure - like powerplants, government buildings.
Until there is a cry of "uncle", a new daily asset de jour vaporization.
Another issue is whether any oil rich state can keep its oil if it is a terror state, if it is based on Sharia and the Quar'an.
Saudi Arabia anyone ?
Iran needs nuclear power like Saudia Arabia needs sand.
Target all facilities and turn them to rubble, if need be, before they get any closer to a working bomb.
The only problem with the ayatollahs controlling a nuke is:
they're a death-wish cult who hate this world.
A bad type of finger on the button.
Fry their 'buttons' before they're activated.
Or wait and watch a Western city turn incandescent white -and vanish.
Hmmmph. Let Iran know that its first strike use of nuclear weapons means mutually assured destruction--with the first bombs dropped on Qom and Mashad.
I'm not up for a war in Iran. Maybe the Iranians hate the mullahs and would gladly put their heads on pikes, but back in the 1930's, most people in China hated Chiang Kai-shek (especially the intellectuals, who wanted Marxism or bust), and the country was in chaos, yet when the Japanese invaded, the country still resisted and tied down a million Japanese troops from 1937-1945 (longer than WWII in Europe). My guess is that the Iranian people love their own country and don't know the motives of any invader far more than they hate the mad mullahs.
If they waht neclear power let the have,it can be sent in with Enola Gray
Hasn,t any body noticed what is written on the sides of the missiles they already have
Another example of allowing a developing situation to slip through our fingers. For some reason our leaders don't react until a crisis arises. The pompous asses that they are, they were warned decades ago but chose either no to believe in the existence of Iranian nukes or that the Iranians were capable to developing a weapon so soon. Their stupidity is inexcusable.
Allah does not exist.
Evanew at August 8, 2005 04:29 PM
Does God Almighty exist? If so, Allah surely exists.