And indeed, Al-Qaeda is already there. "Netanyahu: Pullout will endanger West," from the Jerusalem Post, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:
Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu believes that in the aftermath of Israel's upcoming departure, "Gaza will be transformed into a base for Islamic terrorism adjacent to the coast of the State of Israel."In an interview with The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday, Netanyahu said the terror threat that would develop in a post-withdrawal Gaza would be a danger not only for Israel but for the Western world in general.
"This it isn't just our problem," he claimed.
"It's the West's problem as well because forces that are controlled, deployed and cooperate with Iran - and today Hizbullah and Hamas are controlled in a significant way by Iran - will receive an additional base of operations not only in close proximity to Israel's cities but also on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea not far from Europe."
If I may quote Cpt. Sisko, "there's a name for your situation: surrounded". Anyway, the desire to "prove" that the modern Palestinians (who were Jordanians until one night in 1967) are descendants of the ancient Philistines or if we choose the Hebrew, Plishtim, has spilled into some strange circles. I've heard it in academic circles and journals and think, how much twisting will they do?
Besides, the Plishtim came from Greece. :P
"It's the West's problem as well" - If the Romans hadn't flattened the Jews in 70AD, Sumeria and Judea (excuse spelling), would still be Jewish.
Arabic people stole the land 100's of years later and trashed it. One should read what Mark Twain said about the West Bank, as did the British foreign minister back in the early 1900's. Nobody wanted it, except the only people who have lived there constantly for over 3000 years - the Jews.
It is Jewish land, Gods land, not a political football for Islam.
As noted on an earlier article about Israel, the U.N. "two state" solution from 1948 is the root of the ongoing madness.
The shape of the "states" (Israel/"Palestine") guaranteed a never-ending war between the two peoples.
It's as if someone had a left-over Rorschach test and called it a map.
See:
http://www.israelipalestinianprocon.org/
You can click around the site and zoom in on a series of maps from all different historical periods, from Hammurabi to the present, and realize how the current intermingling squiggle state 'solution' CAN ONLY bring disaster.
We need to redraw the place as two standard 'shoebox'-shaped states: one, North (Palestine... so they can end up fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon in the future), with the top half of Jerusalem as the 'Palestinian' capital/border, and one, South (Israel), with the lower half of Jerusalem as their 'eternal city'/border.
Otherwise, it's war, endless, bloody and insolubly insane.
By reason of the unreason of its godammned map.
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In case Mr. Spencer closes down the COMMENTS section of this site shortly, I am trying to set up a back-up parallel comments area at:
http://watchmyjihad.blogspot.com/
And another trial site, linked to a JW article on the Iraqi "Sharia" Constitutional mess, and Ayatollah Sistani's theocratic meddling, at:
http://watchjihad.blogspot.com/
See if they work for you, and if you can reach one from the other.
(I'm new at this, and working the bugs out.)
Personally, I'm hoping my effort is not needed, and the current comments system stays.
But... to be on the safe side...
Freak out:
http://memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=789
This is the transcript. If you go to LGF and scroll down you might get the video- clip.
Enjoy MTV AL ARABYA!
that any other result would be considered possible is absurd. the juggernaut of islamofascist jihad rolls on, 24/7, relentless and vigorous. if the muslim world put half the effort into financial and economic endeavors, commercial enterprises and infrastructure, in other words, into going about the business of being an productive and interactive society, as they put into obsessing over imagined insults,slights, and affronts, and the subsequent murder of those deemed responsible, the ME could be one more productive region of the world. isreali-palestinian produce export companies, technology companies, tourism, publishing, you name it.
but back to the real world. the world rushing towards the precipice, eyes tightly clenched shut.
used to be, "seeing is believing" meant something more than wanting proof. it meant you had the mental honesty to accept the truth in and of what you saw, not blindly, but by taking what you saw, adding what you "knew" or could discover by investigation, applying critical thought, and then determining that a fact, view, or argument was valid or not.
seems like today, you are praised for being able to come up with the most convoluted argument to prove that black is in fact, white.
calling a spade a spade is SO yesterday. a man who calls it like he sees it is "counterproductive", "racist", and "islamophobic", and "creates obstacles to reaching a solution". (read as won't give isreal "back" and cave in to every muslim demand).
And there was me thinking it would become a magnet for artists, novelists, poets, musicians, film makers, scientists and philosophers, and that liberal humanist values would flourish.
It is highly likely that Gaza becomes a terrorist platform to attack Israel. Weapons will be imported via Egypt and who knows what else? Do not EVER think Gaza is going to be a peaceful Muslim Suburbia at peace with Israel. Indeed, Gaza will strengthen terror and violence against Israel, for Israel has simply no right to exist to begin with accroding to ardent Muslims. This is just Islam 101.
ATTENTION:
Anyone with connection to a FBI office may want to refer this Anti-USA "Jihad" video I found on a Muslim website run by a MSA , the closing clip makes threats to America and uses the WTC attack video of the plane hitting it while you hear a laughing by the Jihadists that more is to come.
Click the video " Dirty Kuffar" and see exactly what they think of the Military and the USA that welcomed them and is providing all the benefits of a education while they promote JIHAD
against America.
http://www.mujahideenryder.net/video/index.htm
I found this link while searching the ICNA site because it was last year that the ICNA and MAC (Muslim association of Canada) had their conference at a Mississauga Hall and a Islamic site outside of Canada advertized the event and detailed workshops for youth that promoted Jihad in Canada to create an Islamic State and then make Canada an Islamic Nation, the class cited the Quran and advocated any level of force to achive Dawa and establish a Kalifah in Canada and bring about Sharia Law for all Canadians.
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This link below has a disturbing tirade about the Zionists and the USA wanting to take over the world. Just scroll down to the last points and see the hatred being spewed to muslim youth in Canada.
http://www.macnet.ca/national/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=19
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CAIR and Dr.Muhammad Elmasry endorsed this event and a Federal Liberal that won her election by bashing Bush and Americans , Parrish was fooled by these weasels that are using Taqqiya to
force Islam on the non-Muslims in Canada.
http://islamonline.net/English/News/2004-08/02/article02.shtml
This is why Canada will not be safe from Al-Qaeda , and just last week Toronto had a bomb threat to the transit system and that very night out P.M. met with 19 pro-Wahhabi Imams to build bridges and assure them their safety after the London attacks since "Islamophobia" was on the rise.
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This is yet another item that falls under my infamous I TOLD YOU SO category.
I'm all for the "Bibi solution".
Big Sleep - hope it works.
News from the death cult in Canada, you say, (it isn't Tetleys), pity.
Between the immigration policies of Quebec (muslim French speaking North Africans - Ressam and LAX kaboom), and the imams of Ontario (mostly Toronto)("we cannot control our young people "- imam threat)hard to figure who is screwing Canada most (and then there's that politically correct idiot Prime Minister Paul Martin ).
Hell, Canada could very well become the Gaza Strip! UNLESS IT REMEMBERS ITS HISTORY.
And while I'm dissing : Sharon you aint no George Patton or Admiral Nelson.
And while I'm at it.
Canada, bring back the ensign and END THE PLAGUE OF MULTICULTURALISM.
REMEMBER YOUR HISTORY.
(defeat the death cult)
Fred Dawes:
What underground nonsence books are you reading?
C'mon fellow lets get real!
I stand by my essay written last year about the unintended consequences of Palestinian statehood.
The international community is by definition spooled up to manage relations between nation states. A framework has evolved in which nation states who live in peace with their neighbors enjoy the fruits of their peaceful behavior in the form of economic and political incentives that in turn promote the prosperity of their citizens. Nation states who persist in belligerent behavior are disincentivized with the extreme cases being simply erased as nations, e.g., Taliban and the Republic of Saddam.
The world community knows what to do with errant nation states. There is wide international agreement on what collective courses of action are deemed necessary to neutralize belligerent nation states. Until Palestine attains the recognition of status as a nation state from all the other nation states in the world, the action necessary to control the violence directed at Israel or any other nation state in the world is subject to wide disagreement and heated debate. Once statehood is attained, the penalties already defined and internationally accepted can be imposed. The severest penalty, ultimate destruction, is even sanctioned a priori by the world community for states who invade their neighbors with military force. In the case of Palestine it would mean that any rockets, mortars, snipers, exported suicide bombers, commando raids, etc., would all be consider military invasion.
History is littered with the rotting carcasses of would-be invader nation states. Israel or any other nation affected by the export of jihad from Palestine would be free to use whatever force is necessary to put an end to it. The world community is already set up to accomodate such a scenario. There would be no gray area, no ambiguity. It would be war in the traditional sense. It would be war in the big leagues.
DrMack:The world community is already set up to accomodate such a scenario. There would be no gray area, no ambiguity. It would be war in the traditional sense. It would be war in the big leagues.
Your idea sounds good. However, the Jihad against Israel can continue without the need of 'official' Palestinian aggression. For instance, the attacks can continue from Arabs in Israel. The Palestinian state will ofcourse disavow these attacks but give them support on the basis that Arabs in Israel were fighting for their rights. Again, Arabs in Palestine will infiltrate across the border and create mayhem. Meanwhile the state of Palestine will deny all knowledge of such attacks, and will 'try to supress' such activities within its borders.
These examples I have quoted are not fiction but the situation as is happening in Israel, Kashmir, Thailand etc. In each case the adjacent muslim country denies all knowledge and vows to supress such terrorist cells.
In such circumstances, it becomes well nigh impossible for the UN to sanction the use of retaliatory force against a sovereign nation, unless it can be proven that the attack was sanctioned at official government levels. This is a difficult task. The only case that comes to mind is the invasion of Kargill by Pakistan, when US satellites and other rec information showed conclusively that Pakistan was indeed committing aggression against India. Needless to say, Pakistan denied it vehemently until Pres Clinton read the riot act to Pakistan to withdraw, fearing that India was preparing a massive counter-attack.
Does anyone have any reliable information on the real sentiments of Arab Israelis (meaning citizens of Israel).
I saw something on Link TV. There are about 3,000 Arabs employed by Israeli's in Gaza. They will lose their jobs when the Jews leave. They don't want the Jews to leave, but are afraid to say anything, for fear of being murdered as a collaborator or arrested by the Palestinian Authority.
There is no economy in Gaza, and no jobs except as Palestinian police or maybe in construction, but the pay is miserable.
Matter of fact there is no economy in all of the Palestinian territory, so how do these people eat, who provides their utilities, where do they get the money for anything, and why do they all look so healthy?
On the other hand, with no Jews in Gaza, Israel can easily seal off all roads and exits, and Israel controls and provides the water and electricity.
I also read that Israel is updating and modernizing the perimeter fence around Gaza.
So if the Jihadis try to use Gaza as a base for operations, it should be a simple matter of closing it down. Seal the entrances and exits, turn off the water and electricity.
That's what I would do, and I wouldn't have to fire a bullet or send in one bulldozer.
I might add, that every Jew in Gaza was essentially a hostage of the Arab, a human shield against any significant or massive retaliation by Israel.
With no Jews in Gaza, Gaza is now a hostage of Israel, not that the Arabs care about the lives or health of their own people. The evidence is that they don't. In the eyes of the Arabs all "Palestinians" are potential martyrs, and their lives are disposable, they exist only as weapons and propaganda tools to employ against the hated Jew and Christian.
The muslim as individual is an alien concept, all are part of a hive, the Ummah, and there sole function is to serve the hive.
The key to understanding Islam is to study the hornet and wasp.