Amazing that Idrees could say this with a straight face after the groups that claimed credit for 7/7 explicitly linked the bombings to Islam. From Pakistan's Daily Times, with thanks to Nicolei:
LAHORE: The UK’s decision to deport 500 Muslim leaders, teachers and owners of Islamic bookshops is hasty, undemocratic and unjust, said a Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) official on Monday.Talking to a group of Pakistani students studying in Britain and the USA at Mansoorah, Hafiz Mohammad Idrees, JI naib ameer, said Islam had nothing to do with terrorism, but the Western media had been implicating Muslims in every terrorist activity without any proof.
The terrorist had to know this was coming eventually...
I wonder if he knows Egyptian professor Abd Al-Sabour Shahin?
Shahin: There is no doubt that not a single Arab or Muslim had anything to do with these events (9/11). The incident was fabricated as a pretext to attack Islam and Muslims.
Could these Pakistani students in Britain be that ignorant? Apparently this JI official thinks so, or he is a very poor student of taquiya,---but wait;why would he use taquiya on muslims instead of ignorant non muslim dhimmis'? Yep, they even lie to their own young muslims boys while their little heads are still full of mush. And watch out for those giant spiders that America is using as well . These Pakistanis are probably so steeped in their Islamic learning that there is no room for deductive reasoning of any kind, their focus is so narrow that they only see Islam and nothing else. If only more of these young muslims had the insight to open up the oyster and see what they can see around them.
Would you buy a car from this guy --of course not! But sadly the pakistani kids probably would.
Maybe he go talk to Musharaf - he was being interviewed on TV in the UK last night, telling us how the UK had been too lenient for too long with these people...
Or maybe he should go talk with the Pakistan security service guy who was one as well - 'no, we never ever torture people, honest guvnor...'
"...Islam had nothing to do with terrorism, but the Western media had been implicating Muslims in every terrorist activity without any proof."
WOW! That statment actually hurts my brain. I am very surprised he stopped short of telling us that the real culprit is the Jews. Whats worse is people actually believe the statments that spew from their venomous tounges.
British MP's have received an unprecedented amount of mail from British Citizens with regards to the Islamofascist terror threat the UK faces. The MP's know they must be seen to be "doing something". The usual hand wringing & blaming the EUrabian Human Rights Act will not wash with the electorate on this one. So, enter Tony - he of the concerned, furrowed brow, world on his shoulders kind of stance -
"....then you are not welcome & we will remove you. You are out, the rules of the game are changing".....anyone listening to Tony for the first time might have thought that he actually meant it. Those of us who do know him know that when Tony says "500" he really means "possibly 5 at a push, maybe. Sometime soon we will definately, err, yes most probably on the balance of possibilities do something, sometime".
Please my fellow DH / JW crew, don't hold your breath waiting for the 747 to taxi down a Heathrow runway packed with demented, deported UK based terrorists anytime soon.
Like all other Western countries living in denial, alot more people than 52 will have to die before the leaders actually do something.
The injustice is that the number is not 50,000.
Let's invite those who are in the West to destroy the West to take a holy hike.
As they would do to Christian or Jewish or Hindu or Bahai or Buddhist or Navajo shaman proselytizing for their faith in Mecca.
Ta-ta termites, should be the English slogan.
(America, Australia and Europe can come up with their own.)
any statement from an islamic spew-master that includes the words "unfair" or "unjust" indicates that the action decried is right on the mark. carry on.
it's getting to the point where i just want to b!tchslap a cleric simply for thinking i'm as stupid as the average islamozombie. it's insulting, and really starting to get my shorts in a bunch.
someone needs to point out that the typical muslim mind is NOT indicative of the typical human mind, that the braindead conditions of allah's sheep are a result of islam, that non-muslim brains are not atrophied but exercised,
that you may be able to fool all of the muslims all of the time, but only a lot of the infidels some of the time. and hopefully, that's changing.
on second thought, don't tell them anything, we might lose valuable intelligence if they change their habits, though i don't think they will. they've got their system down, and besides, their arrogance(which is OUR weapon, not theirs), won't let them. sort of like in the 700's, when they deemed the infidels irrelavent, and a wasteland, and undeserving of study. next time they looked, they were eating our dust, and still are. could be that arrogance will again lead to their downfall, blinded as they are.
Is it just me or do all of you guys feel extreme rage and outrage at the lack of common sense in our governments. They sacrifice the lives of their own citizens for votes and the uncontrollable urge of always wanting to be "PC".
They toss out the suggestions and fears of the good, just people in society and hold hands with the ones who would wish them dead. I am a pretty younge guy so I dont know how the world used to be decades ago....was it this bad? Did our leaders always lack courage and common sense?
OT
Listening to FNC, said that illegal aliens are bringing Leprosy into the US. (Not to mention TB)
If there are any major terrorist attacks anywhere in the Western world, these attacks will now be carefully taken in,not only by those living in the country where they take place, but by non-Muslims everywhere. Some of those Infidels have already managed to educate themselves about Islam, despite the best efforts of political leaders and journalists to provide only apologetics, nonsense, and lies, about what Islam teaches, and about the treatment of non-Muslims under Islam. More and more are likely to do so.
What exactly do Muslims now living in the West expect non-Muslims to do? Do they think we should do nothing, or arrest only those who are directly implicated in this or that terrorist act, when the entire belief-system of Islam, to the extent that it is accepted, molds attitudes, fashions minds, of those who do not and cannot wish non-Muslims well. And the numbers of such people are not a handful. Every opinion poll -- and even these obviously must understate the real hostilty, for taqiyya and kitman in order to protect the position of Muslims and of Islam comes naturally, the evidence suggests, to all sorts of Muslims.
Do they think they will remain unaffected for example, if some kind of so-called nuclear weapon were to be exploded somewhere in the United States? How many of us would wish to tolerate any further Muslim presence in this country? And why should we, given the display of lying about Islam in which so-called "moderate" Muslims participate?
They can only protect their own individual (and not collective) position by ceasing to engage in the most transparent kind of apologetics about Islam, about what is to be found in Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira. Those who assume that they can continue to deceive their Infidel neighbors, whether through these treacly (and entirely meretricious) "Muslim-Christian" and "Muslim-Jewish" Dialogue affairs, or those "Outreach" sessions at Mosques, which are pure propaganda, should think again.
Continued duplicity, even if engaged in out of an inability to face the reality of Islam, perhaps out of filial piety or embarrassment rather than simple malevolence and cunning, will nonetheless -- if there are further attacks anywhere in the Western world -- have its consequences.
"Is it just me..."
-- from a posting above
No, it is not just you.
This is the same whine coming from the paleos concerning the separation fence, it is unfair to prevent them from killing Jews. It is unfair for us to have the audacity to resist their war on us.
pocadon
Browse around here at JW mate, it certainly is not just you.
In these days of "globalisation" our leaders are not concerned primarily with such trivia as their electorates or home audiences - they have a whole world to stride now. Politicians of yesteryear had to be more "nationally focussed" or they would, as my Grand Dad used to say, get "tossed reet out on their eer".
In the UK, successive Governments from both sides of the divide & across the political spectrum have, to our detriment today, failed us all.
Still, lets hope for the best, prepare for the worst but like all good Englishmen down the ages, remain cheerful.
Changes are afoot.
It drives me nuts hearing over and over again the consecrated by the media and “intellectual elites” idiocy that it is “only” a tiny fringe of the Moslem population - somewhere between 1% and 3 percent – whose islam is extreme enough to murder us when an opportunity presents itself.
But what exactly makes 0.5%, 1%, or 2% tiny, rather than enormous? Shouldn’t, in the context of terrorism, a greatness or smallness of a number be established on the basis of its capacity to kill us?
A cyanide poison pill can consists of 99.9 percent of a completely harmless “carrier” (I am not sure if that is the correct English word) and only 0.1% of active deadly poison. One may choose to double the entire weight of the pill but to keep the total amount of the active poison unchanged. Will the fact that the proportion of the pure cyanide dropped to minuscule 0.05% make the pill any less deadly? Will we say of its victim that it had died of reasons half as serious than as if he had swallowed the “original” pill?
I look at Islam as a poisonous material that any reasonable person would keep safely locked in a secure place to be handled with extreme caution and only when absolutely necessary. I am totally uninterested in the proportion of the deadly-versus-innocuous elements within it.
The fools and knaves who for their respective reasons deny its deadliness insist that it should adorn out eating table just like any other condiment.
I wish I will live to see times when they are indicted on charges of conspiracy to poison our civilization.
albion posted: Those of us who do know him know that when Tony says "500" he really means "possibly 5 at a push, maybe.
Agreed. On the Home Front, Tony Blair is all talk and no action. Even Bakri has made it clear that he is coming back to the UK. The real reason Bakri has left the country is that his presence in Britain was causing harm to the islamic cause.
The excuse that the governemnrt gives when it comes to deporting poison clerics is that it would
infringe the European Human Rights act. Yet France seems to have no difficulty in removing their muslim clerics at the drop of a hat.
carolyn2 posted: This is the same whine coming from the paleos concerning the separation fence, it is unfair to prevent them from killing Jews
You have to admit that, from their point of view, the fence is not fair to Muslims, as it prevents them from practising their most cherished belief. The fence is anti-islam. We can't have religious bigotry in the 21st century. Surely not.
OT:
AL BBC is up to its old tricks:
Just switched on the TV to see a "Peter Dunn", an openly gay man who is 'most concerned' about hate-crime, especially against "Muslims and other minorities" in Britain.
Hate-crime, they say, is up 600 per cent. There are many "victim support groups..."
I suspect there are more support groups than victims...
I think it takes some serious head-chopping at BBC....
T-ham, Big-sleep, Hugh, Susanp, Thomas:
We seem to be pretty much on the same wavelength.
It is good to see that more and more people are coming to their senses about the Mohammedan infiltration, sedition and terrorism.
I believe we should stop Islamic immigration totally and encourage those who are here to leave voluntarily or deport them rigorously. Needless to mention that the mosques should be closed at once and all concessions granted to Muslims must be revoked.
In case Robert stops the blog, we should find a way to stay in touch and continue to raise awareness. We may lose the occasional battle but we cannot lose this war...
Seems like they are already backing away from the treason/sedition route
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4135144.stm
Why am I not surprised?
I suspect there are more support groups than victims...
Not if one counts in the victims of the muhammedan hate.
correction,
I wrote at 6:31 pm:
... insist that it should adorn out eating table just like any other condiment.
it should, of course, be "OUR dinner table" not "out dinner table"
Sorry
What a hypocrite, as if he cares about democratic values.
"I suspect there are more support groups than victims..."
Thomas.h:
"Not if one counts in the victims of the muhammedan hate."
No. They are infidels. They don't count. Not for this misguided homo-lefty and certainly not for the sons of Allah...
Terminator,
In case Robert stops the blog, we should find a way to stay in touch and continue to raise awareness. We may lose the occasional battle but we cannot lose this war...
Certainly.
If that should happen Robert will give us all a few days notice which should give me ample time to let you know how to contact me directly.
we should stop Islamic immigration totally and encourage those who are here to leave voluntarily or deport them rigorously. Needless to mention that the mosques should be closed at once and all concessions granted to Muslims must be revoked.
It is all very true and most of us would love to see such development. The question is how do we put it into effect. How does one get the political power necessary for enforcing these things?
Also,I think that coupled with the raising of the awareness of the nature of islam one needs to raise the awareness of the immense systematic treason being committed by our intellectual and ruling elites. They are the ultimate enemy of the west. Islam is only a tool in their hand with which they plan to destroy the West and replace it with the multiculti nightmare. Very much like their leftist predecessors who applauded, praised and spied for the Kremlin hoping to replace the Western freedom with communist monstrosity.
I think it is time we should start identifying the traitors. They must be made aware that their names and crimes are being duly registered for the purpose of a future harsh prosecution. Let them fear that future.
Iqbal:
Fascinated. Please explain.
thomas.h
Great post!
Poison is poison, no matter the dosage. Even with the small % of muslims in the West, we are experiencing severe indigestion. Time for a stomach pump.