The widow of the Jamaican convert to Islam who turned himself into a human bomb, murdering 26 people in London on 7/7, says her husband was "brainwashed" by radical clerics preaching jihad. "Bomber's widow says extremists twisted his mind," from the Times Online, with thanks to Scaramouche:
THE widow of one of the July 7 suicide bombers told how her “innocent and naive” husband had been poisoned by elements in radical mosques as she cradled their new born baby daughter in her arms.Samantha Lewthwaite said that she “totally abhorred” the actions of her husband Jermaine Lindsay, who killed 26 people on a Piccadilly Line tube train near King’s Cross; but she said that she still wore the white gold ring her husband had given her and would pass it on to their first child, a son, Abdullah, when he marries. Ms Lewthwaite, 21, a Muslim convert, said that her husband had been a peaceful man whose behaviour changed when he began visiting mosques in London and Luton.
She said: “His behaviour gradually began to change. He turned from the man that I married. In hindsight I can now see exactly what was happening to him and why. How these people could have turned him and poisoned his mind is dreadful. He was an innocent, naive and simple man. I suppose he must have been an ideal candidate.”
How did they poison his mind? What did they tell him? Did they appeal to the Qur'an and tell him it was his religious duty to wage violent jihad? What can be done to keep this sort of thing from happening? What are self-proclaimed moderate Muslims doing to blunt the force of such appeals?
Let's see her go to the mosque where he was brainwashed and NAME some NAMES. Hell, maybe she'll actually go through the front door instead of the back door that low-class, walking vaginas are supposed to use.
Ridiculous slut. Please tell us more about how "this isn't real Islam." She can't exactly say that "he wasn't a real Muslim" because he was her husband and she more than anyone else would now whether he was a "real" Muslim.
What a joke. Religion of peace my johnies.
I just don't buy her story. She knew.
She should be in Holloway, her children fostered to those who will not indoctrinate them to become religious mass murdering fascists (or good Muslims, if you prefer).
I am surprised that The Sun gave her a very easy time of it, asking no "difficult" questions & not by any stretch of the imagination questioning her on her families interpretation of "the religion of peace".
Does anyone know if she was paid by The Sun for this?
Does anyone know if some Jihad sponsoring ME despot has sent her a cheque?
I would take her a bit more seriously if she did not wear a burqa for her interview. While her story that "I thought he was having an affair" when she began to notice the change sounds credible, the point is why in God's name is she still carrying the visible signs of the ideology in whose name he committed mass murder? Hs she really been so unable to even wonder?
To look at her photograph, wearing that ridiculous black sack over her head, and covering her face with it to boot, is enough to make one want to vomit! This is Britain in the twenty-first century, for God's sake!
To think, in addition, that this is a British girl who has chosen to envelop herself in that ridiculous Middle Eastern, Middle Age garb beggars belief! It also beggars belief that a person born and brought up in a British family, of British stock, should choose to convert to a religion such as Islam, and choose to dress in a centuries-old manner redolent of the desert-dwelling Bedouin!
This woman really has reverted: she's reverted to the ways of living of people from an unenlightened former age, reverted to the belief system of heathens, reverted, indeed, to a death cult!
She looks like a freak, and a ridiculous one at that!
In the Hudderfield Examiner, the newspaper for Lindsay's home town, there appeared an article last month giving quite a different account of things.
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Bomber was Huddersfield drug dealer Aug 8 2005
By Anne-Marie Bradley, The Huddersfield Daily Examiner
BRITAIN'S deadliest suicide bomber dealt drugs on the streets of Huddersfield, it was said today.
Former addict Juliet Davidson has revealed how she used to buy heroin and crack cocaine from teenage bomber Jermaine Lindsay in Dalton.
The single mother - who has been free from drugs for three years - said she was shocked to discover her former dealer was at the centre of the London terrorist attacks.
Lindsay was the terrorist who carried a bomb on to a Tube train at Kings Cross on July 7, killing 26 people.
Juliet said: "I was absolutely gobsmacked.
"I could have understood him attacking someone, but not a bomb.
"I never thought he would have killed himself like that."
Juliet, 26, first met Lindsay - known to her as G - five years ago outside a row of shops in Harp Inge, Dalton.
He was just 14 at the time and a student at Rawthorpe High School.
She said: "He used to hang around and when I was going there to score one day he asked me to get my drugs off him.
"I used to get heroin and crack cocaine off him every day for about two years.
"I saw him change a lot in the last year I was scoring.
"When I saw him wearing his Islam outfit I thought what's he up to?
"He was always going on about racism.
"He thought all white people were trash and said he was going to get them all on drugs to kill them off.
"I don't think he was into anything more himself than a bit of cannabis."
Juliet, formerly of Rawthorpe, said Lindsay also became more aggressive as time went on.
She said: "He started getting arrogant and snapping at anything.
"He once badly beat up someone I knew for just a fiver.
"He looked down his nose at everybody.
"I can't understand why people are saying he was a nice person. He wasn't."
Lindsay grew up in Huddersfield and went to Stile Common Infants School at Newsome and Rawthorpe Junior.
Former classmates said he was a great guy before he converted to Islam when he was about 15.
Lindsay married another convert to Islam, Samantha Lewthwaite, after meeting via an internet chatroom.
The pair married in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, where they set up home and had a child.
But they split after a row, just two days before Lindsay met three other suicide bombers - including Mohammed Sidique Khan, of Thornhill Lees, Dewsbury - and travelled to London on his murderous mission.
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Also, I've got articles somewhere from national dailies shortly after 7/7 stating from people who knew Lindsay that he went to Pakistan, possibly to a terror training camp. I don't think that this is mentioned in today's piece from the BBC.
Re: From the article: "Ms Lewthwaite, whose father was a serving British soldier when she was born in Northern Ireland, said after her conversion to Islam that she had been desperate to find a Muslim husband"
WTF? What would be going through this woman's mind to convert to a cult of misogyny? She's obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer either.
No muslims. No mosques.
(But, I repeat myself ...)
He thought all white people were trash and said he was going to get them all on drugs to kill them off.
Wow, I wonder if his white wife knows what he thought of her.
This is some more stuff on Lindsay that contradicts the BBC and TimesOnline
This is a passage from the UK daily newspaper, 'Daily Mirror' about one of the London suicide bombers, Jermaine Lindsay, who was a convert to Islam.
, Monday, July 18th 2005, page 5.
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Lindsay's mother Mary, 39, who lives in Boston, Massachusetts, said "I haven't stopped crying for all the people who died". Mary hoped Islam's strict codes on alcohol and sex would keep her son out of trouble. She was pleased when he married 21-year-old Samantha Lewthaite, also a recent convert to Islam............Lindsay's step-grandmother Stella McLoed said "It's Satan. It's the devil. God wouldn't allow that to happen."
Friends say Lindsay's transformation from normal boy to killer came after a summer holiday in Afghanistan. Samantha Rana-Liburd said "He was a really popular lad but all that changed. He had converted to Islam and his character was totally different."
Her boyfriend Kyle Walter, 19, added "It was like he was brainwashed". Another former friend, who did not want to be named said "Jermaine went to the extreme. He became an evil bastard to a lot of people he had grown up with".
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This is from the 'Daily Express', page 7, July 18th 2005.
Meanwhile, former classmates of Germaine Lindsay revealed how he was dramatically transformed into an "evil fanatic" after a trip to Afghanistan. He seemed to have been "brainwashed" after converting to Islam at 15.
Lindsay changed during his years as Rawcliffe High School in Huddersfield from a smiling and happy student in 1997 to an aggressive extremist in 2002.
Samantha Rana-Liburd and her boyfriend, Kyle Walter both thought of Lindsay as a good friend who they knew well until he began isolating himself from "non-believers". The 19-year-olds said that despite being shocked at discovering Lindsay's involvement in the bombings, it came as no surprise.
Kyle said "He was like any other teenager and wore all the same clothes as us. He was popular especially amongst the girls, but all that changed when he returned to the school after the holidays for his final year.
"He had converted to Islam, wore the robes with the hat, and grew a beard. His character was totally different.
"Almost overnight he became very serious, and was always reading. It was like he had aged 30 years in six weeks.
He was fascinated by world affairs, religion, and politics".
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One thing I got slightly wrong, he was said to have gone to Afghanistan not Pakistan.
Brainwashed? Possessed is more like it.
"innocent and naive" husband my tush!
Hell lady, if a drug dealing rascist bully is your definition of an innocent and naive man, then Jack the Ripper must have been St. Peter.
You obviously lack the mental capacity to raise your children in a healthy, safe environment.
I agree with Abion. The children should be fostered out and their names changed to protect them.
Imagine them having to grow up with their classmates taunting them that their daddy was a crazy mass murderer.
And the obviously retarded mother will poison these kids minds with fundamentalist beliefs and they will grow up to view British society as corrupt and evil.
These disaffected, guilt ridden kids will have no chance to lead a normal healthy life and the end result is fairly predictable. Quit sad really.
Gee , another "Career Victim" that stumbles from tragedy to tragedy while volunteering to be used.
All these Jihadists must have had a point in the thought process where they made a free will CHOICE to accept the "Call to murder" , being Brainwashed can be from an attempt to believe some elses opinion of an event or perception of reality.
But , embracing the concept that Allah gives you a special dispensation to murder God's children for Islam with no accountability under any man-made Laws is a contract with the Quranic teachings and NOT the fault of the Cleric citing the Quran to tell the truth about killing the enemies of Islam.
No doubt CAIR coaches these yahoo's to play the Victim if they get caught plotting Jihad or funding terrorism.
So is she getting a Jihad-widows pension now?
Here is another article which contradicts Lindsay's widow's claim in today's 'The Sun', on page 6, that he was a peaceful chap until around October-November 2004.
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Lindsay link to Birkby hardliners investigated Aug 3 2005
By The Huddersfield Daily Examiner
SUICIDE bomber Jermaine Lindsay's links with extreme Islamist groups are being probed by anti-terror police.
As reported exclusively in the Examiner last month Lindsay, who grew up in Rawthorpe, is believed to have been involved in an attempt to set up an al-Muhajiroun cell in Birkby.
Now links are being investigated between that cell and others in Luton just 20 miles from Lindsay's last home in Aylesbury.
The hardline al-Muhajiroun welcomed the attacks on the Twin Towers in New York and founder Omar Bakri Mohammad refuses to condemn the London bombings which killed 52 on July 7.
Al-Muhajiroun disbanded last year but former members have already formed new splinter groups.
Leaders of the smaller groups - the most notorious being the Saviour Sect - have already predicted more attacks by British Muslims in the UK.
Scotland Yard sources have confirmed they are looking closely at Jamaican-born Lindsay's links with Luton - known to have been a hotbed of al-Muhajiroun activity.
It is believed the 19-year-old could have left Huddersfield after the strong moderate Muslim community rejected the al-Muhajiroun and booted them out of their Bay Hall Common Road base in Birkby two years ago.
Lindsay did travel to Luton to worship while he lived in the South and police there have said he appears to have had links to criminal activity.
His car was found with a further nine bombs in the boot just days after the bombings at Luton Station.
It has also been revealed by British Intelligence sources that last year the former Rawthorpe High student was investigated after being named "on the periphery" of a major anti-terrorist investigation.
Details of that investigation cannot be reported as suspects are due in court in the coming months.
Was Jermaine Lindsay considering being a 9/11-style islamikaze back in December 2003? If so, this contradicts his widow's claim that he was peaceful until October-November 2004 ('The Sun', September23rd, 2005, page 6)
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WAS BOMBER PLOTTING AIRLINE HORROR?
Police probe chilling new theory with echoes of 9/11
BY DAVID BRUCE
CHIEF CRIME REPORTER
ANTI-terrorist police are trying to establish whether Yorkshire-born suicide bomber Germaine Lindsay was plotting a similar atrocity to the 9/11 Twin Towers horror.
Germaine Lindsay, 19, of Aylesbury, Bucks, but previously from Huddersfield, is blamed for 26 deaths in the bombing between King's Cross and Russell Square on July 7.
But researchers have discovered that a "Jermaine Lindsay" joined a web-based group of flying enthusiasts 18 months ago.
The group operates copies of genuine airline schedules and members use Microsoft Flight Simulator, a realistic PC-based program also thought to have been used for training by the September 11 attackers.
A pilot roster for SimAirline.net indicates that a "Jermaine Lindsay" joined the group in December 2003. He has listed his nearest major airport as London Heathrow, and clocked up nearly 30 hours honing his skills over the next two months.
British Airways
Police are now trying to determine whether Jermaine Lindsay is the same person as Germaine Lindsay who set off a bomb on the Piccadilly Tube line on July 7.
Police have begun investigating possible links between Lindsay – whose first name has been variously spelled "Germaine" and "Jermaine" – and flying simulators.
SimAirline.net operates a virtual copy of scheduled flights by 22 real carriers, including British Airways, Virgin, Emirates and Air Canada. The group's hundreds of pilots are expected to log their trips, stick to specified timetables, and use the type of aircraft employed by the particular airline they are "flying" for.
The 9/11 Commission in the US concluded last year that the terrorists on planes which flew into the World Trade Centre and Pentagon had used PC-based simulators for their training.
david.bruce@ypn.co.uk
25 July 2005
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This appeared in the Leeds-based 'Evening Post'.
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According to 'The Age' , Lindsay's chosen Islamic name was Abdullah Shaheed Jamal.
As far as I understand, Shaheed is the term by which Arabs refer to suicide bombers in Israel.
If this is so, one might argue that those who knew his middle name might have suspected that Lindsay too had a similar aspiration.
This is the article in 'The Age'
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Date: July 17 2005
By Audrey Gillan
Ian Cobain
Hugh Muir
The 19-year-old suicide bomber responsible for the Kings Cross station explosion is thought to have played a key co-ordinating role in the London bus and train bombings that killed 53 people.
Anti-terrorist detectives now believe Jermaine Lindsay, who changed his name to Abdullah Shaheed Jamal when he converted to Islam, may have been the most senior of the four bombers.......
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Linday's widow said that her husband knew the koran inside out ('The Sun', September 23rd 2005, page 6).
This seems to figure.
What I wouldn't mind knowing is this; was she paid for this presumed interview with that UK newspaper? Is so, how much was she paid, and is she giving any of the money to a 7/7 victims' fund?
Poisoned at the mosque?
I told them I thought that kebab smelt a bit off.
Pertinant to "Abdula shaheed Jamal-
an insightful, well-written book about how a muslim young man is brainwashed into becoming a shaheed and the indoctrination techniques used is
The Last Night of a Damned Soul
by Slimane Benaissa
It's powerful book and deserves to be in everyone's library.
According to the 'Guardian', Lindsay was not so loving and gentle when it came to his neighbours at one address.
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Loving father, bad neighbour, Piccadilly line bomber
Hugh Muir and Ian Cobain
Friday July 15, 2005
Guardian
The man from number 10 Northern Road was a figure of contrasts. Neighbours would see him hurrying to and from his red Fiat Brava, carrying his baby in doting fashion. Sometimes they would be forced to berate him as he blared Arabic music from his house and his car, often in the early hours.
Yesterday the same residents were coming to terms with the idea of Lindsey Germail in yet another guise: that of the fourth London bomber, the man who killed 23 by carrying out a suicide bombing on the Piccadilly line.
Germail, believed to be of Jamaican origin, had lived with his partner, Samantha Lewthwaite, and their baby in the small red bricked house in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, for seven weeks.
Yesterday it was obscured by blue plastic sheeting as anti-terrorist squad officers conducted a fingertip search.
The road was taped off. Only residents were allowed to come and go and traffic was halted. All of which heightened the sense of shock that someone widely believed to be a key figure in the atrocities should have been part - albeit for a short time - of their community.
Tom Ahmed, a neighbour and a local councillor, said: "We are a very small town and we are devastated to think that we had someone in our midst who was linked to such terrible things. This community is united and will remain united regardless of those who seek to divide us."
Those who work in the small row of shops less than 200 yards from the suspect's house also expressed shock and dismay. Aman Azram, 23, an insurance clerk, stood by the doorway, incredulous.
"These people might think they are good Muslims, but they are not. I was born and bred here. They just make life harder for the rest of us."
He had not met Germail. Few residents had. They had seen the stocky figure, of medium height with his short curly hair and penchant for relaxed, casual clothing.
They had seen his wife, an English woman - and by some accounts a local woman - who had converted to Islam and always wore long flowing black gowns.
Germail is understood to have used several different surnames since his conversion to Islam. In April last year, for example, he used the surname Jamal when registering the birth of his son
They rented the property from a letting agent when the owner moved to Oxford, but made little effort to engage with the close-knit community they had entered.
One elderly neighbour, who declined to be named, said: "I saw him on a daily basis. I don't think he worked because he was always around during the day, taking the baby in and out of the Fiat Brava. He would park it over the entrance to my property and people would complain to him about that. They were getting quite cheesed off with him."
She added: "The other thing was the noise. They would play very loud music in the house and the car.
"When it came from the house people would knock and complain. They would never open the door but eventually the music would be turned down. The neighbours were getting quite upset about it."
Germail's mother is thought to live in Ohio in America, and sources say he has visited the US at least once.
The effort to find out more about Germail, his associates and why he moved to Aylesbury is being led by anti-terrorism detectives from Scotland Yard, assisted by Thames Valley officers.
Peter Neyroud, Thames Valley's chief constable, said: "Terrorism is not something that happens to other people ... it is important for all of us to be alert."
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Jihad by whom?
American Jihad "War on Terror" ?
What we are doing on this Web Site "Jihad"?
Is Terrorism is Jihad itself?
Is US Attack on Iraq is American Jihad and terrorism?
"Jihad" verses "War on Terror" = Joint Jihad?
we all are involved in a JIHAD my friends, therefore Jihad is allowed in any religion not only in Islam. The Jihad we all are going through is called "Modern Jihad" started by no other than "Zionist". Over one hundred millions innocent americans are opening their eyes now. We all are involved in our own version of Jihad. We all are killing human lives in the name of War on Terror called Jihad. None of us are any different.
Now over one hundred millions of innocent Americans are opening their eyes about the facts of modern Jihadis "Zionist" Rober Spencer is one of them.
A professor at North Carolina Wesleyan College in Rocky Mount is defending her course titled, "9/11: The Road to Tyranny," which teaches that the official story of the 9/11 attacks is actually a government cover-up. According to one required text, the attacks were orchestrated and carried out by U-S government elites themselves. Professor Jane Christensen insists, "I teach the truth about 9/11 ... This is a war by the extreme right wing motivated by the Zionists to quash academic freedom and dream for global domination.
Another professor David R. Griffin started his efforts to wake up real Americans against Zionist Jihadis movement by writing a book called "New Pearl Harbour". Robert Spencer creator of this web site is playing his idiotic and lunatic role to support and spread his version of Jihad against Islam and muslims.
According to Carol Valentine: there were no "suicide" pilots on those September 11 jets. The jets were controlled by advanced robotics and remote-control technology, not hijackers
The Northrop Grumman Global Hawk is a robotized American military jet that has a wingspan of a Boeing 737. The excerpts below were taken from an article entitled: "Robot plane flies Pacific unmanned," which appeared in the April 24, 2001 edition of Britain's International Television News :
"The aircraft essentially flies itself, right from takeoff, right through to landing, and even taxiing off the runway," according to the Australian Global Hawk manager Rod Smith. Here is an excerpt from that article:
A robot plane has made aviation history by becoming the first unmanned aircraft to fly across the Pacific Ocean.
The American high-altitude Global Hawk spy plane made flew (sic) across the ocean to Australia, defence officials confirmed.
The Global Hawk, a jet-powered aircraft with a wingspan equivalent to a Boeing 737 flew from Edwards Air Force Base in California and landed late on Monday at the Royal Australian Air Force base at Edinburgh, in South Australia state... [NOTE: two of the aircraft involved in the 911 crashes were Boeing 757s, two were Boeing 767s]
Above are not the statments made by any Fundamentalist Muslim Militants, they are all Americans, British and Australians. I will rather call this web site a conspiracy site than above statements made by my fellow Americans, British and Australians.
We all surely know that the US and its allies would not conspire to attack America! Or do we?
The Army's School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS ) thinks Israel is capable of doing exactly that. On September 10, 2001, The Washington Times ran a front page story which quoted SAMS officers:
"Of the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, the SAMS officers say: 'Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act.'" ("US troops would enforce peace under Army study," The Washington Times , Sept.. 10, 2001, pg. A1, 9.) Just 24 hours after this story appeared, the Pentagon was hit and the Arabs were being blamed.
These SAMS officers are obviously interested in protecting their country, but not all Americans are. Some are traitors and pay allegiance to Israel. Recall the June 8, 1967, Israeli attack on the USS Liberty, and American complicity in the attack.
During the Six Day War, the Liberty, an American intelligence gathering ship, was sailing in international waters. Israeli aircraft and torpedo boats attacked it for 75 minutes. Read the story at the USS Liberty Memorial Website, at http://www.USSLiberty.com
The medical technology we have today can make any human a ticking bomb for their purpose. According to a statistics, thousands of Arabs and muslims in Isralis and his allias concentration camps like Abu Graib has been tortured and brainwashed by injecting drugs into their bodies and made them a ticking bombs and used them to kill innocent people all over the world. It is still true that there are many humans who are willing to give their lives for their freedom and justice.
Kalanag
What America has done in Iraq is good.
Only those with little understanding of the word `jihad` would post garbage like the one above by kalanag.
May allah get him.
SHAMBHAJl WAS FIRST BLINDED AND KAVI KALASH'S TONGUE WAS PULLED OUT. ON MARCH ll, 1689, THEY WERE PUT TO A CRUEL AND PAINFUL DEATH. THEIR LIMBS WERE HACKED OFF ONE BY ONE AND THEIR FLESH THROWN TO THE DOGS.
It was in the year 1669 A.D. that the Hindu king Gokla was Captured by Aurangzib. THE HINDU KING'S LIMBS WERE HACKED OFF ONE BY ONE ON THE PLATFORM OF THE POLICE STATION OF AGRA, THE CITY OF TAJ MAHAL. HIS WHOLE FAMILY WAS FORCIBLY CONVERTED TO ISLAM.
http://islamreview.org/KoranKafir/chapter11.htmlm