Could he have died around this time? Or is his death about as valuable a piece of information as the assertion by an Egyptian government organ that he is an American agent? From AFP, with thanks to Eric:
Al-Qaida's leader in Iraq Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is dead but Washington continues to use him as a bogeyman to justify a prolonged military occupation, an Iraqi Shia cleric says in an interview.Sheikh Jawad al-Kalesi, the imam of the al-Kadhimiyah mosque in Baghdad, told France's Le Monde newspaper on Friday: "I don't think that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi exists as such. He's simply an invention by the occupiers to divide the people."
Al-Kalesi claimed that al-Zarqawi was killed in the Kurdish northern region of Iraq at the beginning of the US-led war on the country as he was meeting with members of the Ansar Al-Islam group affiliated to al-Qaida.
"His family in Jordan even held a ceremony after his death. Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is therefore a ploy used by the Americans, an excuse to continue the occupation. It's a pretext so they don't leave Iraq."
That actually places his death much longer ago than June, and Al-Kalesi's words in general in the category of people who insist that Al-Qaeda is an invention of the American government, or that American Muslim organizations have genuinely and honestly condemned jihad terrorism.
The Shiites are full of it… I hope that president Bush forgets about his legacy and his retarded notations of a unified, peaceful, and prosperous Iraq and leave all parties involved to their own devices while our intelligence agencies work behind the scene to ensure that there is not a clear winner in Iraq. I say, get our boys out and leave the Iraqis busy.
Perhaps Sheikh Jawad al-Kalesi can also enlighten us as to whom is supplying the jihaddists with recruits from all over the region and extremely powerful explosives manufactured in Iran.
These imam wingnuts are a boon to the comedy circuit.
Some throwoff politically incorrect lines:
1. Allah is a derivative and wrong depiction of God;
2. To trust a Muslim is foolhardy since it tis a tenet of his belief not to trust you and to be justified in deceiving you;
3. Often a Muslim will say anything you want, or dont want, to hear.
Keep your powder dry.
dgene
how about another one
keep your powder dry is not a reference to womens cosmetics.
Another lunatic iman.
Another slightly off topic for you nice peeps. :)
To preface - I just had a little fender bender with a neighbor - rather than us just taking care of it amicably, he began to threaten me, both with police and with personal types of revenge. This is a guy that lives just a few doors down from me, which makes it feel like he is almost in my personal space. Not comforting.
This situation reminded me of the fact that the greatest anger the vast majority of Westerners like me feel is getting angry that you are cut off in traffic, or that you think your co-worker might be bad mouthing you behind your back.
We should compare this with daily life in any of the Muslim nations. I imagine that feeling you must kill or be killed is probably a monthly occurrence there for many people. Poverty plus totalitarian rule (or anarchy) creates the most vicious of circumstances, where people must get completely heartless if they are to survive, comparable to the Compton section of Los Angeles, or the worst sections of Detroit, but spread across an entire nation, with no hope of escape.
Is it any wonder that when confronted with these hardened animals, that we lapse into dhimmitude? We will go to great lengths to avoid conflict, as the apologists on the left clearly demonstrate. So we should be suprised that the Islamist LIE to us on a regular basis? This takes the smallest amount of courage (the fear of being caught in a lie) compared to laying it all on the line, to avoid being captured by the authorities, or to steal a loaf of bread for your family, or to settle a minor dispute for family "honor".
Our freedom and wealth makes us soft. This is not something we should be ashamed of, as we hope that all peoples can one day get their act together and live in a peaceful and free society. But, we should take a moment and think of the the probably hard, hard hard backgrounds of the Muslim "statesmen" like the current thug in charge of Iran. These are people with zero natural empathy. It has been BRED OUT of them from countless centuries of hardship, psychotic sitations, servitude, and rage. We need to try to imagine these circumstances, as best we can, when negotiating with these inhuman peoples.
In this sense, we are no match for them. I really do think Iran, as a whole country, would vote for suicide rather than have to accept the dictates of the West with regard to nuclear issues. We need to understand their thinking so we can respond accordingly.
Comments are welcomed.
Taqiyyah.