Jordan's King Abdullah made a long list of promises yesterday to a gathering of Washington D.C.-area rabbis, including a pledge to counter the proliferation of extremist Islamic thought throughout his kingdom, while also helping to repair relations with world Jewry. According to the Washington Times, Abdullah stated:
"We face a common threat: extremist distortions of religion and the wanton acts of violence that derive therefrom," the king said. "Such abominations have already divided us from without for far too long."Criticizing al Qaeda terrorists Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab Zarqawi for "abuses of our faith," the king, speaking at a heavily guarded lunch meeting at the Ritz-Carlton in Northwest, made clear he wishes to establish himself as the voice of moderate Islam.
He pointed to a July conference he held in Amman, Jordan, for 180 Muslim scholars as a key part of his effort to undermine the far Islamic right. The conference was supported by fatwas -- or legal rulings -- from 17 major Islamic scholars.
"Muslims from every branch of Islam can now assert without doubt or hesitation," he said, "that a fatwa calling for the killing of innocent civilians -- no matter what nationality or religion, Muslim or Jew, Arab or Israeli -- is a basic violation of the most fundamental principles of Islam."
As the Times reminds readers, however, Abdullah has his work cut out for him:
At home, however, the king encounters massive anti-Semitism. According to a July poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press on global attitudes toward religious groups, 100 percent of Jordanian respondents said they either had a "very unfavorable" or "somewhat unfavorable" view of Jews.
While the words of Adbullah are welcome and soothing to the ear, he, like many other Middle Eastern "enlightened" monarchs, offers little in the way of specifics on how he would rectify the increasingly hateful atmosphere in Jordan. Someone should query Abdullah on how he intends to purge the official press organs of anti-Semitic elements, or how he plans to gain control of the rhetoric spewed within the nation's mosques? Furthermore, does anyone really think that his majesty would be willing to give the speech he gave yesterday in front of a native Jordanian crowd? 100 percent of a nation's population does not express disdain for Jews unless they live a culture awash in anti-Semitic vitriol.
100% unfavorable?
I guess the ones who voted "somewhat unfavorable" were the moderate muslims.
Abdullah is merely riding the so-called wave of good will directed to Israel since she capitulated and expelled some 9,000 of her citizens in exchange for nothing. He doesn't mean it -- it's just more Arab BS. Taqiyyah. He's playing out his part as the good cop/moderate Muslim leader.
In a nutshell? Jordanians hate Jews because Jordanians are Palestinians.
WHo cares about moderate muslims? what their promise to lie in kinder, gentler more convincing terms?
Dont bother, no thanks.
it doesnt change what allahs commands one dot or squiggle.
Dialog with muslims is pointless ,
what is there to discuss our surrender or theirs?
The King talks thus... "at this moment in history, we have no choice but to take bold strides towards mutual forgiveness and reconciliation."
Which means that he can ask Israel and Jews to surrender the land of Samaria and Judea, which they won, thank G-d, after his father invaded to help throw the jews into the sea, and now, we need to have mutual understanding, and the arabs are going to be kinder and sweeter.
As opposed to when Jordan kept Judea and Samaria 'Judenrein' and destroyed Jewish holy sites, and for which, no 'Palestinian' land was ever claimed, let alone proclaimed.
If he dared go on like this in Jordan, they throw him under a bus, and kill him.
>100% unfavorable?
>I guess the ones who voted "somewhat
>unfavorable" were the moderate muslims.
Haaaa.
I've always taken Jews to be an intelligent and determined people, but I gotta admit that the idiocy with Gaza has shaken my faith somewhat.
As to the King's proclamations, it must be either:
a) He's practicing taquiyya in DC, or
b) He plans to remove the Qurayza mass murder and seizure from the Sunnah (along with hundreds of other items of anti-semitism), and also remove dozens of ayats where Allah went off on the Jews in the Qur'an.
Jordanian culture may be saturated by Jew-hatred, but I doubt that it's "sated": there's always a ravenouos, impossible to satisfy appetite for more.
Here is the Hamas Charter,
http://www.acpr.org.il/resources/hamascharter.html
It says in this charter:
Hamas is one of the links in the Chain of Jihad in the confrontation with the Zionist invasion. It links up with the setting out of the Martyr Izz a-din al-Qassam and his brothers in the Muslim Brotherhood who fought the Holy War in 1936; it further relates to another link of the Palestinian Jihad and the Jihad and efforts of the Muslim Brothers during the 1948 War, and to the Jihad operations of the Muslim Brothers in 1968 and thereafter.
But even if the links have become distant from each other, and even if the obstacles erected by those who revolve in the Zionist orbit, aiming at obstructing the road before the Jihad fighters, have rendered the pursuance of Jihad impossible; nevertheless, the Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah's promise whatever time it might take. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said:
The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim).
Hamas is in the driver's seat, does it sound like Jews will get fair treatment?
Article Thirteen:
Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad: "Allah is the all-powerful, but most people are not aware."
"We face a common threat: extremist distortions of religion and the wanton acts of violence that derive therefrom," the king said. "Such abominations have already divided us from without for far too long."
-- from Abdullah's speech above
What "common threat" is that? What "extremist distortions of religion" do Judaism and Christianity offer, which "threaten" poor helpless cowering timorous Muslims world-wide, whether in Iraq, or Jordan, or Egypt, or in Paris, Amsterdam, Milan, London, Madrid, or New York or Washington or Lackawanna or Portland, Oregon or Falls Church, Virginia -- what are the "wanton acts" that non-Muslims, especially apparently Jews, have "inflicted"?
Or did King Abdullah not mean to offer a false symmetry, but couldn't manage even to utter the words (false, but less false than what he did say) that "extremist distortions of Islam" (not "religion") "threaten" and have been responsible for "wanton acts" of violence. That would have been a little better.
As it is, it is another example of the realization that Islam is beginning to be understood, and that this is not a good thing, and perhaps, both Musharraf and Abdullah feel, in their vulgar way -- the same vulgar way that King Huseein dedicated some book -- you can search the Internet and find it listed -- not to "Mr. Fulano de Tal" but rather "To my Jewish friend" -- yes, some of his "best friends" etc. -- even the most enlightened Arab monarchs and rulers think, at best, in those terms -- let's imagine Clinton signing a book for the late Vernon Jordan, and writing "to my black friend."), it is "the Jews" who can be appealed to, for they want so desperately to believe, and let's make overtures to them, and see if they will be the stalking-horses for it, the new apologists for Islam. Many ovations for Musharraf's outrageous speech, and no doubt for King Abdullah's. We are just not going to get anything like candor, something even close to the embarrassing truth about Muslims and Islam, from these people -- even many of those seemingly fully Westernized, and integrated Bright Young Muslim Things in the Western world, talking about "reforming Islam" and so on, when you show that you are not fooled, and not impressed one whit by Islam, imediately dissolve into a hysterical fury and Defense of the Faith. I have experienced this again and again, from people one would never have expected to act in such a strange fashion. Islam has a hold, and it is so wound up with self-esteem (especially for Arabs) and identity, that you cannot talk directly and truthfully about what is actually in the Qur'an and Hadith and Sira. You can't. Try -- you'll see. But don't ever give in, or think you have misunderstood something. You haven't. All you have misunderstood is the psychology of Muslims, which is strange indeed.
He is just a fence straddling weakling, a perfect example of a useless monarch
Is Ali Sina's site www.faithfreedom.org down again?
eduardo odraude,
I haven't been able to access FF all day.
Kinda like Hitler meeting with the Rabbis to discuss anti-Semitism, eh?
Anyway, I wonder what the breakdown of the poll that found "100 percent of Jordanian respondents said they either had a "very unfavorable" or "somewhat unfavorable" view of Jews" is, between "very" and "somewhat". 50-50? 25-75? And is "somewhat" unfavorable really all that bad? I've certainly got a "somewhat" unfavorable view of at least some Jews (namely Orthodox) - doesn't mean I want to kill them.
No, FFI is up and running. The Forum can be reached at
http://www.islamthreat.org/forum/
`common threats` that Abdullah refers to are the the mainly muslim `Palestinians`
Jordan’s King Abdullah warns Israel against unilateral Gaza-type steps on the West Bank
In notes to US president Bush and Israeli PM Sharon over the weekend, the king warned that any further steps, including Israeli withdrawals from West Bank territory, would be deemed violations of the 1995 Jordanian-Israeli peace treaty - if coordinated only with Washington and the Palestinians. He stressed Jordan would not put up with a Israel-Palestinian settlement that failed to address Jordan’s sovereignty, its interests in the Jordan river basin and the border crossings and in shared strategic issues, such as security and water resources.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=106387
There is one other threat. A shiite or sunni hit team(s) are out to get him and Prez Mush of Pakistan. Their success is eagerly awaited.
Musharraf's Terror Links
http://www.angelfire.com/al4/terror/musharraf.htm
Hugh:
Perhaps the "common threat" is the one that Islamists pose to anyone who isn't as Islamic as they are, or isn't the right brand of Islam.
Don't get me wrong about buying into the idea that the Prince is an honest broker who just wants everyone to get along. I think it's clear that the bin Ladinites are a threat no less a the Arab "potentate" apostates who are seen to be US-friendly, than they are to non-Muslims.