From the FOCUS News Agency, with thanks to Fjordman:
Pristina. According to the new public planning the unfinished orthodox church “Christ, The Savior” in Pristina might be turned into a night club, a studio or a museum. The Parliament had reviewed the suggestion for the new reconstruction of the region on July 15. The plan includes the church and the students’ campus, the electronic edition Holy Gates of Christianity (www.dveribg.com) reports.The Serbian church has not been informed about the initiative and had reacted sharply to it. “The Church has neither intention, nor the right to turn its sites whose foundations have already been dedicated, into night clubs or galleries. Though over 150 churches and monasteries have been destroyed or seriously damaged over the last 6 years, the new attempt at taking away the last Orthodox Church cannot be seen in any other way than as a wish for impeding the life of the Church and wiping out every single trace of the Serbian people and culture in Kosovo and Metohija”, a declaration of the Rasko-Prizren Eparchy reads.
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/09/last-orthodox-church-in-kosovo-might.html
Now that churches and Christian symbols are targeted even in Sweden, it could be useful to see what is expecting Western Europe unless we deal with the ongoing Jihad and realize that we are in the middle of a world war. If we fail to do so pretty soon, then large parts of Western Europe will go up in flames within a couple of decades.
April 2004:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/001636.php
Kosovo: Church of Christ the Savior in Pristina turned into public toilet
After last month's pogrom during which 35 Orthodox churches were destroyed and whose ashes in several cases stink of human feces and urine, this yet another example of barbaric behavior in the very center of Kosovo's capital. To make matters even worse, this horrific spectacle of the humiliation of a single church and Christianity in general is located in immediate proximity and can be seen from the University Library and Pristina University. Both these institutions were usurped in 199 by the Albanians who summarily expelled all Serb professors and students. What is more, university representatives have been complaining for years to Pristna municipality authorities about the existence of the sole remaining Serbian Orthodox church in the area and asking that it be torn down. The advocates of an ethnically pure, Muslim Kosovo are especially infuriated by the presence of the golden overlay cross which can still be seen from some parts of the city and serves as a sad reminder that Orthodox Christians were once part of the city's population.
The church of Christ the Savior was to have been completed in 1999; however, the eruption of war interrupted further works. The church remains as the unfulfilled wish of the pre-war population of 40,000 Serbs in Pristina to build a new church besides the already existing church of St. Nicholas, which was destroyed during last month's pogrom. Today there are no remaining Serbs in Pristina.
File under: Muslim gratitute for NATO intervention
Heart-wrenchingly horrible. Another example of how inconvenient facts are ignored in the press. Once again, it's just a Christian story. The Main stream media feel no compunction about not reporting this. Where's 60 minutes?
Yeah right on Rebecca,
The Muzzies expect us to be weeping buckets over the Palestinians, and all the while the poor Chakmas of Bangladesh, and dozens of other long-suffering non-Muslim communities in Islamic lands (a number 10 times greater than the Palestinians) are downtrodden and persecuted.
But of course, their definitions of human suffering do not extend to non-Muslims, and as obedient dhimmis, nor should ours, they think. Hence, they scream and denounce us for not wailing over a handful of Palestinian fatalities, whilst a hundred times more are killed for being non-Muslim in places like Indonesia, Nigeria and Bangladesh. They remain a mere statistic for us -unmourned and largely unknown to the outside world.
East Timor remained largely unreported throughout the 80's and most of the 90's. A Christian land ravaged by Muslims - nobody cared. Untold crimes have been committed in the Chittagong Hill Tracts of Bangladesh against the Chakmas, and yet how often is the conflict reported? - never!
Who decides what media space is given over to what issues? Are we not being manipulated by Capitalist press barrons? Oil - the root of all evil.
http://www.unpo.org/news_detail.php?arg=16&par=680
My husband was in Kosovo about 18 months ago to see the burnt out churches and monastaries and and to visit nums living in burnt out box cars of trains. It was so sad. His group brought about five or six suitcases full of basic medicines. The medical dispensary was almost empty when they came with their supplies. The UN troops look on..and do nothing. Mosques, funded by the Saudis, are going up all over the place. Yet, this is supposed to be a successful UN and European operation..I guess it is for the Muslims as they establish another foothold in Europe. The reports made after the trip basically went nowhere. Only a few media and Congress members showed interest. Timbo, I have heard a few stories about the poor people who live in the Chittagong Hill Tracts. I was unclear on one thing...are these victims Buddhist or Hindu? Not that it makes a difference to the Muslims who are killing them, who only know that they are killing non-Muslims. Thanks for your information.
Rebecca, I completely agree with you. Why aren't these stories being reported in the mainstream media? Makes me sick!
Maryrose thanks for your post as well.
Can anyone refer me to some books that cover the history of how this region of Europe became today what it is? I know it stems from the Turks and Ottoman Empire invasions/conquests throughout the centuries but I would love for someone here to recommend a good overall read. Thanks in advance to any who respond! Hugh are you there? (Hint hint :-))
The Kosovo campaign by the west against the Serbs was essentially to show the muslim world that the western foreign policy was religiously indisciminate and not just motivated by economic and strategic self interest. This was hoped would bring the muslim world perhaps closer or at least not lead to a further 'alienation' of the muslim world, both in the muslim world and with one eye on muslims living in the west itself.
It has failed utterly, the jihad has not been slowed but accelerated.
It is now in the Serb best interest to promote muslim immigration into the west (Milosevic in his final years actually tried something like this, but with Chinese, when Belgrade became virtually a staging post for Asian immigrants looking to move into the west). When the muslims reach a critical mass then NATO forces will be withdrawn to fight their own internal conflagrations and Kosovo can be retaken.
The brutal fact is that we have been paying jizra with the blood of other nations for far too long. That blood is beginning to run out and we will pay with our own. The Serbs should now receive our full support, they deserve nothing less and if we fail them like we failed the Greeks, Armenians, Copts,.....etc (the list is to vast to list here), we'll deserve everything.
JV
Regarding Kosovo, my conscience is more than clear. I was one of the (very) few that were not fooled by Albright and Clinton. CNN and many others portrayed Serbs as if they were demons and most of the always gullible western populace bought it.
"Wag the dog", the Serbs shouted bot hin Belgrade and in Pristina. Did anyone care?
As to East Timor, someone said
"East Timor remained largely unreported throughout the 80's and most of the 90's. A Christian land ravaged by Muslims - nobody cared."
That is not exactly true - not in this part of the Atlantic. If East Timor now has freedom it is solely to three things:
1) East Timorees are Catholics (which means that they have a distinctive religious identity from the rest of that region)
2) the efforts of the Portuguese diplomacy (which were surprisingly effective, even if it took over two decades)
3) the (once again, absolutely surprising) mobilization of the Portuguese people to protest against the massacres in Timor; the images of hundreds of thousands dressed in white to protest against the Indonesian occupation went around the world, and guess what? I was one of those thousands.
Like I said, I did my job. Most of the guns that killed one third of the East-Timorese population were either made in Britain or in America (which speaks volumes about the hipocrisy if Albright and Co).
In any case, East Timor wasn't the classic Muslim vs Christian kind of jihad. It had a lot more to it. After independence, East Timor could have swung towards communism, and that was one of the reasons why Indonesia invaded it with clear US support. The only problems were a colonized people that just wouldn't surrender and a former colonizer that wouldn't shut up.
I have a feeling that we are really going to pay from the nose for turning the cradle of Serbian Orthodoxy into an abomination of desolation. Such are the sins of the West that divine retribution or depending on your point of view; the ironic hands of fate doing a bit of poetic justice are at hand.
If most posters on this site cannot help themselves in attacking the Serbs and siding with the Jihadist Albanians, then what hope is there for most Westerners? Old Europe is doomed and I hope its collapse would give Americans the impetus to save themselves.
Westerners are behaving like dodos, clumsily staggering around waiting to be clubbed on the head and then eaten, oblivious to their surroundings and the fate of their own kind, succumbing to the same lures time and again, seemingly unaware of their impending extinction.
It´s a tragedy and a shame and what to do!
"Old Europe is doomed"
Oh, stop the defeatist whining, will you? Yes, there will be rough times ahead, and yes, we may be headed for a world war. But we won't lose. Islam is the only thing that's doomed around here.
Well, Mr. Fjordman, lets not look at the rest of Europe… Just look at yourself as a microcosm of the self aware Europeans that will save the continent. Just add the score of this very informal and non-scientific survey and keep the results for yourself. (1 for yes, 0 for No)
1) Do you a minimum of 2.1 (just 2) children? 2.1 children per couple are just enough to keep the native European population going. (2 barely ok, 3 better, 4 great, 5 you are the man)
2) Are you a devout Christian or Jew and did you raise your children as such? It would be a shame if they marry a Muslim wouldn’t it or if they surrendered without firing a shot. Also, since religion supplies the moral foundation for most humans, it would give them hope where there is none, urging them to look beyond themselves. Also, since Christianity is one of the major pillars of European civilization, atheistic Europe hasn’t a backbone.
3) Did you raise your children to have pride in the country, culture, history and civilization, and with patriotic values?
4) Did you raise your children in close-knit stable family (i.e? No divorce)? Children from broken families are easier pray for the Muslims.
5) Do you own and are proficient in the use of firearms?
6) Are you welling to die to save your country from Islam?
7) Are you cooperating with likely minded anti Jihadists in the community?
8) Are you politically active in your country supporting political parties that oppose Dhimitude? Most Europeans just surrender their freedom by voting for the welfare state.
9) Are you personally preaching the anti Jihad gospel to your circle of friends, family, co-workers, and perfect strangers, anyone who will listen?
10) Do you give financial assistance to anti-Jihad efforts?
The solution:
Most Muslims do all of the above ten steps.
- If you answered 8 and above, based on you, Europe got a good shot at beating back Islam.
If you answered 5 to 7, based on you, Europe got a less than even chance at beating back Islam.
If you answered 4 and below, based on you, Euarabia Islamstan, here we go.
Well, Mr. Fjordman, lets not look at the rest of Europe… Just look at yourself as a microcosm of the self aware Europeans that will save the continent. Just add the score of this very informal and non-scientific survey and keep the results for yourself. (1 for yes, 0 for No)
1) Do you a minimum of 2.1 (just 2) children? 2.1 children per couple are just enough to keep the native European population going. (2 barely ok, 3 better, 4 great, 5 you are the man)
2) Are you a devout Christian or Jew and did you raise your children as such? It would be a shame if they marry a Muslim wouldn’t it or if they surrendered without firing a shot. Also, since religion supplies the moral foundation for most humans, it would give them hope where there is none, urging them to look beyond themselves. Also, since Christianity is one of the major pillars of European civilization, atheistic Europe hasn’t a backbone.
3) Did you raise your children to have pride in the country, culture, history and civilization, and with patriotic values?
4) Did you raise your children in close-knit stable family (i.e? No divorce)? Children from broken families are easier pray for the Muslims.
5) Do you own and are proficient in the use of firearms?
6) Are you welling to die to save your country from Islam?
7) Are you cooperating with likely minded anti Jihadists in the community?
8) Are you politically active in your country supporting political parties that oppose Dhimitude? Most Europeans just surrender their freedom by voting for the welfare state.
9) Are you personally preaching the anti Jihad gospel to your circle of friends, family, co-workers, and perfect strangers, anyone who will listen?
10) Do you give financial assistance to anti-Jihad efforts?
The solution:
Most Muslims do all of the above ten steps.
- If you answered 8 and above, based on you, Europe got a good shot at beating back Islam.
If you answered 5 to 7, based on you, Europe got a less than even chance at beating back Islam.
If you answered 4 and below, based on you, Euarabia Islamstan, here we go.
Guys.... firstly, refering to Sweden, there have been many cases where Satanists have burnt churches such as Euronymous and other members of black metal bands in Norway that burnt churches.
Though i am not Christian but i prefer the Greek logic and religion, i'd admit to say that Balkans are the thermopilae of the civilized world. Muslims want to create a huge Chaliphate in Balkans, from the muslims in South Bulgaria up to the Albanian Muslims. Many youngsters in Bosnia are talking about 'the return on the Ottoman values' under the bless of NATO.
It is a paradox, NATO and neo cons created Mujahedins and helped them to come in Balkans to fight the legitimate governments. The number of Muslims is increasing and this is a threat. There were 0 muslims in Kossovo in 1948 and now there are over a million Muslims. Many came from Albania but some others came from Asia, especially from Turkey as a result of immigration. Now the tension moves in Macedonia and it spreads. I am afraid that soon we will see Muslim activists in Albania and Greece.
Do not forget the KLA, the 'royal' ally of USA that was recruited from many Americans, is funded from Al Qaeda.
The balkans need to make sure that the great powers will stop helping terrorists and then to send the message: 'if you do not like balkan and its rich christian, secular and scientific heritage go back from where you came from'
have_mercy, no thanks, old europe does not need any of that freaky advices, Europe is and will be always be superior culturally from all other civilizations and does not need any neo-con evagelist whackos
Kosovo Muslims were doing stuff like this for decades, and after a quieter period following WW2, they became more brazen again with the death of Tito in 1980. That was the major reason for the Serbian "crackdown" from the late 80s and on. Only, by the time the you know what hit the fan in the late 90s, the Serbs had already been thoroughly demonized and very few in the west were willing to even try and understand their position. The Serbs suffered from dismal leadership throughout the entire Yugoslav wars-of-succession saga, and must accept responsbility for their actions, but that turning Kosovo over to the Albanian Muslims would allow them to freely run riot over everything Serbian and Christian was clear to anyone with the slightest inkling of an understanding of the situation there.
"superior culturally"
Mr. Chris
I hope that cultural superiority is not Europe’s last line of defense. The Muslim easily conquered the most superior cultures of their day. If victory in wars was based on culturally snappish attitudes, the French would not have been so quick to throw down their guns and surrender. Have you not heard of the conquests of the Huns, the Arabs, the Turks, and the Mongols…? They all ate the culturally superior peoples that they encountered for lunch.
Unless native Europeans return to the cult at the heart of their culture, Christianity, which saved them from Islamic slavery in the middle ages, they will not have the necessary attitudes to counteract the Islamic invasion politically, ideologically, socially, demographically, and militarily.
A few points:
1) In Albanian and Kosovar society, clan and familial ties are more important than religious ties. To view the Kosovo situaition in terms of jihad is foolish and naive. There are Albanian Catholics who are Kosovar Nationalists. Mother Theresa was a Kosovar.
2) To claim the brutal 1980's crackdown was justified is absurd. Serbian Nationalism had no tolerance for anyone non-Serbian. Not all Serbs were bad of course, but let's not forget that Protestant churches in Serbia today are still attacked and disrupted by radical Serbian Eastern Orthodoxers. While the KLA was certainly a shady organization, the idea that Albanians should have equal right in Serbia was not an unjust idea. It's a shame they've turned the tables now that they have power.
3) Bosnian Muslims are some of the most secularized in the world, the poster who said Bosnian youth want Ottoman values was way off. There has been some attempts ot recruit from Arab interests, but these have not been too succesful. Most Bosnian Muslims are moderate. They were the ones who wanted a pluralist state. It was the Serbian snipers who shot women and children who did not want a pluralist Bosnia. Today in the Serbian part of Bosnia you still have no sense of pluralism and no allowance for non-Eastern Orthodox religion (this includes newer Protestant churches).