"Asian," of course, means "Muslim" in the British press. "Asian-friendly houses in Britain," from IANS with thanks to Lost Budgie, who points out that not only has tax money been used to build these houses, but that Muslims will be given preference over others to live in them. L. B. says: "Imagine the outcry if tax dollars were used to build a public housing project designed to the religious specifications of Christians or Jews - who were then given priority because they would most benefit from the 'culturally-sensitive' design?"
Bristol: An Asian housing association in Britain has built a block of flats especially designed not to offend Muslims - the toilets do not face Makkah.The 16 flats in the St Paul's area here have been built by Bristol-based Aashyana Housing Association, an Asian-led organisation. The toilets in the apartments have been built in such a way that they do not face southeast.
Farooq Siddique, from the Bristol Muslim Cultural Society, said he welcomed developments that took into consideration the cultural diversity of tenants.
He said: "I think it is a good thing that the flats are designed in this way. We do live in a multi-cultural society and rather than just paying lip service to that, it is important that there are policies in place that address it.
"Having toilets facing the right way is an issue that comes up, as Muslims do not like using them if they are facing in that direction."...
Bristol City Council spokeswoman Kate Hartas said:...
"With all our allocations, we apply the normal criteria.
"But where there are two households of equal priority who qualify for an Aashyana home, we would offer to the household who would most benefit from the culturally- sensitive services that Aashyana provides."
Welcome to multicultural Britain, where tolerance equals preference given to Muslim sensibilities.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/001738.php
April 28, 2004
Britain: New subsized housing for 'Asians only'
Race watchdogs have been called in to investigate a state-of-the-art London housing block that is being reserved for Asians only. The development, which will provide sheltered housing for 40 Muslim "elders" when it opens in the East End this summer, has triggered controversy because white pensioners will be excluded.
The Commission for Racial Equality has now been asked to check whether the Sonali Gardens project breaks the Race Relations Act. Criticism of the project comes from both Conservatives and Liberal Democrats. Tories warned today that the block was a form of "segregation" that could be seized on by the British National Party in its bid for votes in the capital, particularly in the East End.
The 40 new homes, together with a day centre, have been built in a joint project by Tower Hamlets council and Circle 33 housing association on the site of an old people's home that catered for all communities. Three other new sheltered housing blocks in the borough are not earmarked just for Asians.
Critics point out that its specialist services, such as halal meals, Bengali-speaking carers and Islamic praying facilities, could be offered within a mixedrace development. Lib-Dem councillor Janet Ludlow said: "The most important thing is to make sure we are acting legally." The 1976 Race Relations Act and its 2000 amendment state that a discriminatory service can only be offered if an authority can prove that a specific need is not currently being met.
But a recent council report admitted that the level of need among elderly Bangladeshis was "a hidden need". David Davis, the shadow home secretary, said: "There would rightly be outrage if a council offered a whites-only housing block. "I firmly believe that we should look to achieve integration rather than segregation in our society. This is the sort of thoughtless policy that feeds extremism."
Halal toilets? The writing really is on the wall.
I'd never thought about this until now, but my toilet faces North by North West. Presumably I will have to vacate my flat to make way for a Muslim who needs it more than me.
I'm speechless. This is beyond bizarre. Not just the Muslim-specific (silly-superstition-and-paranoia-specific) housing, but the fact that there are people living on this earth today who worry about which way they're facing when they use the toilet. That's some sort of mental disorder, isn't it? OCD or something?
Oh Britannia! How far you've fallen. You're cringe-worthy. You are not a multicultural society, sorry, you are horribly mistaken. You are a dhimmi society. You are on your knees, grovelling before people who actually worry about facing the wrong way when they empty their bowels. Unbelievable. And so sad.
I'm flushed with embarrassment. Our country is going down the pan.
I think we've lost the "Great" in Great Britain.
Muslims, eh? You can't live with them, you can't deport them. Hang on a minute, now there's an idea.
This is the money quote
"We knew this would be pleasing to them if the toilets were not facing Mecca.
What reeks of pure dhimmitude more than planning ahead to please the Muslim overlords? Goodness gracious dear me. Causing the housing to be built in a manner inappropriate to the many strictures of Islam might, nay would, cause the Muslim residents to be humiliated and that would, in turn, cause them to riot and destroy this housing so generously provided for them because as we all know unpleasing housing is an affront to Muslim sensibilities and who could blame them if it had to be destroyed?
Toilets not facing southeast - who cares. Personally I would like my toilet facing northwest so that when I take a leak I'll be facing the Kaaba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba) or when I stand up after using the toilet, I'll be mooning Mecca.
On a technical point, if a woman is facing in a correct non-Meccerly direction when using a halal toilet, a man won't be, at least some of the time. Or are Muslim men different in this respect?
I really don't think the Muslims have any room to talk, where toilets are concerned. Toilets in the Syria are unspeakably bad, and face any which way, not that it really matters, if you get my drift.
In the posher hotels, they sometimes put a strip of paper across an otherwise bad toilet, on which are printed the words 'American Standard'. This would make a good exhibit for the Turner Prize.
I remember the housing in that part of the East End from my childhood. Houses with one toilet in the garden shared by every family in the house. Flats (model dwellings from the 1880s so imagine what they replaced) with a communal toilet on every landing.
A flat with one family and one bathroom inside was the height of luxury. I sound like a Monty Python Yorkshireman!!!! I don't want a return to that. But I do ponder when you think of the state of hygene in the Middle east, as Interested says. All ritual washing and no actual cleanliness.
They have this in Holland, too.
Leveller
www.dutchdisease.com
Well... i cant seem to work out which direction Mecca is in. But i'm pretty sure, next time i'll move into a new house thats the first thing i'll look for.
Infidel Dogs:
Are you not aware that Allah has decreed that men may not urinate while standing?
I'm flushed with embarrassment. Our country is going down the pan.
Posted by: Interested at October 17, 2005 08:40 AM
LOL--so is ours, but we haven't quite descended to Britian's level of dhimmitude. Give us a little more time.
But, but, ... this messes with my feng shui!
Oh, Christ! What next?
Norseman, for the benefit of other infidel dogs, I'll just quote the relevant fatwa:
Allah Ta'ala certainly has a lot on his plate, worrying about stuff like that.
Yes, Britain is descending into dhimmitude. We piddle while Rome burns.
Norseman:
Re: (from your link)
"and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT."
This is satire - isn't it? You just can't make this stuff up - yikes, the cult has a fatwa department.
There's fame and money to be made here.
I'm going to design a seal that will allow a toilet to be rotated 360 degrees about its base.
Toilets could then be placed in the center of all new public housing bathrooms.
That would end the 'need' for preferential treatment.
I also envision motorized versions for thrill seekers, plus the elderly and frail, at additonal cost of course.
I'm going to design a seal that will allow a toilet to be rotated 360 degrees about its base.
They might be good for the whirling dervishes.
SHIT! I cannot believe that this is truly happening??? in the UK. Whats happened to the stiff upper lip and all that? How far will the UK go to appease these morons? Why not supply the pebbles to wipe themselves with, as stated in the quran
I keep a Koran in my toilet. When I'm going, I use a razor to cut out a page; when I'm done, that page is my first wipe. Call it my Vengeance Wipe, cuz the book calls for my death by murder several times. But, instead of me dying a slow death, the Koran does.
Flushes ok, no clogs yet.
Churchill would not be pleased.
This taken from River Hill in 1899:
”How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.”
Degraded sensualism, indeed.
This is ridiculous! Seriously though, does anyone here know what direction toilets face in Mecca itself? Are people not allowed to defecate in the city?
Wasn't there something to the effect that
"Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad" ?
This is ridiculous! Seriously though, does anyone here know what direction toilets face in Mecca itself? Are people not allowed to defecate in the city?
Posted by: helox at October 17, 2005 02:39 PM
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/mecca.htm
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
George Orwell, Animal Farm
"But where there are two households of equal priority who qualify for an Aashyana home, we would offer to the household who would most benefit from the culturally- sensitive services that Aashyana provides."
From the article above
The first quote relates to how the Russians were betrayed by the Russian elite after the revolution. The second quote relates to how the Europeans are being betrayed by the European elite today.
I would urge the readers here to examine the similarities between the two quotes given above and draw their own conclusions to where events are now heading.
In my house in Dallas, TX, the downstairs toilet faces south, the upstairs toilet faces east. I guess it is haram for a Muslim guest to go upstairs.
I wonder how important bathroom layout is for U.S. Muslim homeowners.
I would scream bloody murder if MY tax dollars were used for this purpose.
Some day relatively soon, this kind of discrimination will be the norm in Europe. Muslims will expect it as the natural order of things. And the hapless infidel...he or she will also grow accustomed to the new reality.
This topic first came to my notice here
LUXURY FLATS BUILT SO THEY DO NOT UPSET MUSLIMS.
http://uppompeii.blogspot.com/2005/10/luxury-flats-built-so-they-do-not.html
Notice that much is made of Asian residents but it is really for muslims. No Hindu, Sikh or any other, is likely to go within a mile of it, if it can be helped.
faqi:
Shit happens!
Now how can this be a mixed race development unless all rules of logic are abandoned?
Next time your in Hong Kong, go to the Penninsula Hotel and take the elevator to the nightclub on the top floor:
The pisoirs in the toilets face directly to the great mosque just up the street. Enjoy!
What if the feng shui expert insists that the buildings should not be oriented so that the bathrooms are facing away from Mecca, but in a different direction? Which kinds of concerns from "Asians" in this self-described "Asian" housing project should count? Feng shui predates Mecca by even more years than Muhammad predates Mecca (see Patricia Crone on evidence for the existence of Mecca in the 7th century). Shouldn't such matters depend on who got there, in world-historical terms, firstest with the mostest?
We hear a lot about not discriminationg against people for their sexual orientation. But this housing policy discriminates on the basis of religious orientation -- those inclined Meccatropically would appear to call all the shots.
Actually, in the UK, "Asian" means South Asian, and includes Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Parsees, Jains, Buddhists, and, yes, plenty of Christians.
Kepha:
Actually, in the UK, "Asian" means South Asian, and includes Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Parsees, Jains, Buddhists, and, yes, plenty of Christians.
Not so. When muslims riot as in Bradford, papers write of "Asians" rioting. However if Sikhs or Hindus were rioting in London, then you can be sure that Sikhs or Hindus will be stated in the papers.
This whole business is catering specifically for muslims, as is clearly stated, but a pretence is being made that it is for Asians.
As I said, given what Hindus and Sikhs think about muslims and islam, they wont go anywhere near these "Asian" friendly houses.
The problem is, of course, that the British infidels are forcing the Muslims to use haraam Western toilets. This can cause great problems for the faithful, not to mention the usual humiliation associated with infidel practices.
The solution is obvious. Replace all infidel toilets in Britain by Islam-friendly pits in the back yard. Surely this small accomodation to the customs of our Muslim brothers and sisters will cause them to love us.
Norseman
Please. You are frightening the kiddies.
My toilet faces up. It does not matter which direction a toilet is facing if it is facing up.
Mecca is not up. Muslims could use a up facing toilet without violation. I think it was Hamlet who said that 'all toilets in Allahs heaven face up'. The rumor is that Allah does not allow any defecators in heaven, so the up facing toilets are more for show and decoration. Still one might wonder how a retiring jihadist in heaven, eats all those fruits, and drinks all that wine, and never gives any of it back. Of course, this could be one of Islams best kept secrets. Dead jihadists in Allahs Paradise poop, and poop a lot. It's all that fruit. It makes it really hard to get it on with those 72 virgins when you cant get off the up facing toilet. Allah played a joke on them. He should have told them to party with the virgins first and eat all that fruit second. Dont ever let it be said that Allah does not have a sense of humor...
duh-swami:
Now I got it! "..Dead jihadists in Allahs Paradise poop, and poop a lot. It's all that fruit. It makes it really hard to get it on with those 72 virgins when you cant get off the up facing toilet..."
And it comes back through the atmosphere in the form of precipitation! That's where freckles come from, folks, be warned!
This is just a ruse - it's an excuse to hand over the entire building to Muslims. 99.9% of Muslims probably don't think twice about what direction their toilets face - it's just a big con trick so they can make sure they do not have to put up with the despised English as neighbours.
"Oh we would simply love to have Mr. & Mrs. Smith in the building, but you see, the apartments are specially designed for the Asian community."
Just last year, I lived in Calcutta for a few months. I kept a flat in an apartment block there. I was very quiet, polite; more often out than in, and entertained very few guests - apart from a very senior railway official and a local businessman. Unfortunately when my Bengali neighbours spotted a white face in the lift and corridors, they organized themselves and went en-masse to the building administrators to demand to know what I (a white foreigner) was doing in their precious building. I was the only white face in the entire suburb, they were hardly swamped! Believe me, Asians are the first to complain about racism, but they don't want white neighbours.
I was so glad to see Interested's post above from "Ask the Imam..." One of my favorite Muslim sites. If you want to know what Islam is all about -- go check it out. The thralls are in complete disarray about what to do with spent fingernails, nosehair clippings and general body exudate. The guy spends most of his time directing the Muslim troglodytes on the proper methods to shave their bums, dispose of snot, and such like. It is a real hoot -- but it's also EXTREMELY DISTURBING. It reveals how utterly devoid of personal responsibility the Muslim becomes under the sway of his "religion." This reminds me of the shattering of self that other cults engender in their followers and recruits -- the trogs become little more than infantile vessels into which their leaders pour their various forms of drivel. A must read for anyone who really wants to know what stirs the Muslim heart and mind...
Some delightful recent postings:
"plz tell me if I can hear songs with decent wordings without any kind of music?"
answer -- NO! It is HARAM!
"when menstruating, can I cut my hair and fingernails?"
answer -- It is MAKROOH to do so...! Yikes... that sounds like "NO" but I'm not sure...
"After wudu, is it haram to bury my old scabs in a jar?"
answer -- ABSOLUTELY NOT -- IT IS FORBIDDEN!
"If a person has a scar on his face (not a birth mark) and because of it can't marry, can he get it surgically removed?"
answer -- Yes! Wow -maybe this Islam thing isn't as bad as I thought!