"A call to hate and to prayer," from The Australian, with thanks to Scaramouche:
It's October 21, the middle of Ramadan, the Muslim holy month, and Sheik Abdul Salam Mohammed Zoud, who has been living in Australia since the mid-1990s, stands on a platform at the front of the room reading his sermon in Arabic."Ramadan is not a month for indolence," he screams through a lapel microphone, drawing on Koranic parables about the importance of annihilating al-adou (the enemy) and stressing the Koranic obligation of jihad (spiritual struggle or holy war) during the month of fasting. His voice can be heard clearly in the car park outside.
"Ramadan is a month for jihad upon oneself and jihad upon the enemy," he says, a time when followers must become more disciplined in adhering to the message of the Koran, and more willing and prepared to topple the enemy of Islam: the West.
Listeners nod approvingly as Zoud praises mujaheddin - guerilla warriors engaged in holy war - who are waging bloody battles against Western troops across the world, and implores Allah to grant them victory in their fight against the enemies of Islam.
"Allah yinsur el-mujaheddin fe-Iraq (God grant victory to the mujaheddin in Iraq)," he screams, his voice crackling as he defies his own vocal range. He then repeats the message three times, each time screaming it louder and with more intensely.
Twice at the end of the 35-minute oration in front of the men, who are mostly in their 30s and 40s, the sheik exclaims in a voice filled with angst and passion, blame and hate: "Inshallah (God willing) dark days will descend upon America soon."
Two Fridays earlier, at a prayer centre at Michael Street in Brunswick, Melbourne's Muslim heartland, the man regarded as Australia's most radical imam, Sheik Mohammed Omran, stands before his mixed band of followers....He says Islamic unity and victory in the face of the West cannot be "stopped by George Bush or Tony Blair or John Howard".
"If you don't unite, your faces will be smeared in dirt," he adds.
Both Zoud's and Omran's prayer groups teach Wahhabism, a fundamentalist branch of Islam founded in Saudi Arabia in the 1700s that inspired the former Taliban regime in Afghanistan and is preached by the world's most notorious terrorist: Osama bin Laden, leader of al-Qa'ida....
Zoud has formerly been accused of having links to terror suspects and recruiting for jihad. And although he has denied such accusations, he cannot deny the fact his prayer centre, located in Sydney's Muslim heartland, has attracted terror suspects, including Frenchman Willie Brigitte, arrested and deported to Paris in 2003 for allegedly plotting a bomb attack on Sydney's naval base; and former Qantas baggage handler Bilal Khazal, who is facing terrorism-related charges in Australia.
Friday sermons at the Haldon Street and Michael Street prayer centres are predominantly geared towards political issues affecting Muslims across the world. The US and President George W. Bush figure prominently in Zoud's and Omran's sermons.
"Last night, President Bush said that the so-called fanatic Muslims would like to build an empire reaching from Indonesia to Spain," Omran said during his October 7 sermon. "And he has not said anything as truer or more accurate. What is wrong with doing that? ... What are we doing to achieve that objective?"
Omran's call to action goes even further during a Friday sermon at Michael Street conducted the following week by Harun Abu Talha, news editor of Mecca News, published by the Ahlus Sunnah Wal-Jamaah organisation led by Omran.
During the predominantly English qutbah, the cleric says: "We should not compromise our deen [religion] for the sake of peace." It is a message greeted by collective nods from a group of more than 100 men, many of whom were present at Omran's sermon the previous Friday....
While Naji al-Imam's service is purely religious, Abu Talha, who is believed to be Bosnian, discusses "our brothers and sisters" who are dying at the hands of Western troops in Afghanistan and begins to discuss the importance of jihad before quipping: "We cannot say too much about mujaheddin in this country." The joke elicits sniggers and laughter from the group....
If they hate the west so much why to they come here? I tell you why. With most of us if we hate the way people live in a certain country we don't go there.
With them however, the more intensity with which they hate us the more they want to come to live among us. They could go to live in some simple backward desert and attack anyone who didn't "belong".
Those people on the other hand come here, enjoy the trappings of the west, our benefits and consumer goods mostly but they also work to try to create instability to bring us down to their level.
That total and utter difference in outlook between Islam and the rest of western civilisation is something which our governments just do not understand, they think that Muslims think in the same way as we do and want what we do in life and career etc, they do not.
That is where western government falls over.
Greatest respect all round but they don't belong in our lands, they don't belong in ours.
Correction...
Greatest respect all round but we don't belong in their lands, they don't belong in ours.
What I have read about the new Australian terrorism law, these statements promoting terror can get you arrested. I hope they strip the citizenship for those given citizenship. If they don't have citizenship, deport them immediately.
It's going to be hard to top the tsunami and two earthquakes which killed over 300,000 Muslims. Insh'Allah works in mysterious ways.
May dark days descend upon the West, but not before I cash my welfare check!
You had to be there.
Isn't quipping haram?
And these are the people Steven Hopper( an Australian defence lawyer ) will defend "pro bono".He is a weasel of the highest degree.
OT: the MSM hasn't been reporting the riots in France in great detail here either.
Outside Sydney's largest mosque, the Lakemba Mosque in Wangee Road, which is known for its moderate preachings, a man in his late 20s is walking to his car following the Friday prayer. He opens his car boot and grabs a handful of promotional leaflets about Ramadan. Asked about his thoughts on extremist Muslims ruining the image of Islam, he says: "You got all kinds of Muslim here [in Sydney]. But it's always the few extreme ones who ruin it for the majority, brother."
No, brother, it's the majority who are allowing the extreme ones to ruin it.
So, brother, what are you going to do about it?
And because we know that the bro isn't going to do anything about it, what are the rest of the Australians going to do about it?
The reason that Muslims come to live in western countries although they hate them is that they hate their Homeland even worse.
because theres a large Islamic societies in most of the western world, Muslims can allow themselfs to rub their feeling of separatism
in the native citizen's faces.
But, if in the same county the feeling of separatism grows and creates a form of frustration, the terror organizations use it and sends a famous "Sheih" to publicly speak words of sedition.
After that, the same terror organization that sent the famous "Sheih" creates a recruitment base with a mask of a mosque or a public support
fund to move money and people to the country that they want to hurt.
From here the unfolding of the events is obvious.
more and more countries are in the middle stages of these process, some can prevent it and some
and as we see nowdays in france and the philippines some countries are under daily siege.
I hope that the world will open his eyes and start fighting the cancer thats growing within him.
Why do they come here?
Picked up a little paperback at a remainder warehouse yesterday:
"Occidentalism", The West in the Eyes of Its Enemies"
by Ian Baruma and Avishai Margalit, Penguin Books
Bought it in frustration when my copy of Bostom's "Legacy of Jihad" hadn't arrived by yesterday, although "Legacy" came in this morning. "Legacy" will get priority now.
I pass the title along without much comment since I have only read 1 1/2 chapters, but those held my interest.
Regarding why they come, there was something about loving what you loath and the subsequent anguish over the schizophrenic mindset. The "city" as the whore, the soulless attractant, the object of desire and target of loathing, the promised land and the archenemy of the pious man. You are free to substitute "West" for "city" as you see fit.
A memo to Aussie Imam ZOUD:
ALLAH is NOT God. You do not worship God. Christians and Jews worship 'God' whose name is also 'Yahweh'. You worship 'Allah' the Babylonian moon-god idol also known as Baal, Marduk, or Satan. You think you will enjoy heaven, but if you read the fine print what you are really getting is sex slavery in HELL. But you will never know who or what God is by being a Muslim. God is completely written out of Islam--and not be accident. By the deceit of the "trickster" whom you venerate.
I know God and GOD does not deliver 'dark days' to anyone.
Enjoy your virgins before the eternity of dullness sets in. THOSE will be dark days that know no end my buddy.
Pythhagoras:
You wrote “ALLAH is NOT God”.
I agree with you. Muslims claim “There is no God but Allah. Mohammed is his messenger”.
This literally means that they do not believe in God the way Christians, Jews or Hindus do. But they believe in Allah who is anti-God (not God but Allah), Anti-Christ or the Devil himself.
From Riva on Lago di Garda\ Italy tonight:
Why do they come to invade our countries? Because we let them.
Because we are stupid.
Because our polit-props and our 'human rights' advocates are stupid, because we lost the plot about what is right nd wrong, we lost our values for the sake of a shallow equivalence which attracts parasites like moths fly to the light.
I think I will go to Israel next week. Shalom!
t-ham, please let me know when you finish Margalit and Baruma. When they write about cities, keep in mind the drive of people into the hinterlands that so appeals to the utopianists like Mao and Pol Pot. Compare that to the Nazi view of soil mysticism, and then look at the environmentalists' view of Mother Nature. I'm dead keen on this stuff, and if it appeals to you you might hit on my name below and search for the seven essays I posted on Modern Agriculture and Left Dhimmi Fascism. You'll also find posts there on Walther Darre, Martin Heidegger, Herder, and ecology. I have much more to come, and if you're interested I'd like to see what you come up with.
Soon I'll begin posting on Identity and Exceptionalist Nativism. All this is in preparation for posting a lovely essay by Janet Biehl on environmentalism and ecofascism. It might seem boring on the face of it but the background shows clearly the path we're on regarding multi-culturalism and moral relativism.
A problem with a good idea is that it can prevent people from searching further, the good idea being seen as good and sufficient in itself. Please pass on your thoughts when you're ready. I'm always happy to disagree. Or something like that.
ISLAM:I = Incest
S = Suicide Bombing
L = Loot
A = Arson
M = Murder
And thats exactly what they practice!!They want to return to the 6th century,to kiss Mohammad ass!
At some point this is either
Going to continue on to civil war...
Or the West is going to have to stand up to this..
And say
Enough!!!!
I really dont like either option i would much rather have peace...
But the Religion of Islam is morphing into a Monster we may not be able to stop if this continues..
Either way...
I pray for both our countries...
pythagoras
Those 72 virgins. Are they are forever virgin even after they have been handed over to the jihadi? If so, that can only be if the jihadi has been deprived of something as punishment for his deeds.
It must be the hellest of hell, the acutest of tortures, to find oneself in such a position for eternity.
faqi posted :The only solution is forced repatriation to the 'Muzzie' countries they came from.
If that ever happens then the remaining Christian population in muslim nations will be massacred.
One other way is exchange of populations, or wait until all Christians in muslim nations have left before forced repatriation.
Harsh though this is, it is far better then the prospect of a global civil war that we are now facing. Millions and possible hundreds of millions casualties are a possibility, and in the end the victor will still impose repatriation.
It appears that these Imams are more dangerous than any poisonous snake in the Outback, or any iriganji jellyfish in the ocean.
From the ever resourceful CAGE.
LONDON: A chemical and biological terrorist attack is in prospect and a nuclear attack cannot be ruled out in Britain, a former head of British intelligence said in remarks published Thursday.
Sir Richard Dearlove, who retired last year as head of the Secret Intelligence Service, said the July 7 bombings that killed 52 London commuters did not amount to a “strategic terrorist event,” the Daily Telegraph reported. Dearlove, who was taking part in a debate on terrorism arranged by the London law firm Ashurst, said the July attacks on three subway trains and a bus “bore the characteristic of a locally planned and carried-out event”.
However British officials probably had to conclude that “the clock is running on some much more dreadful events that could occur,” the former MI6 chief said.
http://www.acage.org/news/?day=11052005&id=0011
"If you don't unite, your faces will be smeared in dirt,"
---Their faces are already smeared in dirt. It’s called prostrating during prayer five times a day!
Inshallah (God willing) dark days will descend upon America soon.
This idiot does not know that this has already happened. It started when Elvis died, and got darker when The Big Bopper, and Ricky Neslon bit the dust, even Frank Sinatra fell. But the curtain on America really dropped with the passing of Fred Rogers. No more Mr Rogers Neighborhood...the lights went out. Yes some have tried to rekindle the spark. Bruce Willis has made lots of movies about fighting terrorists, so has Steven Segal. Michael Jackson tried to get a spark going using 'Jesus juice'.
Michael had the best chance, but as usual he blew it. So who can turn Americas lights back on, certainly not liberals, they cant find their Berkenstocks, Not Geo, he cant find his Berkenstocks either, and Condi cant even find the light switch. "What America needs is a good five cent cigar", I cant remember who said that, but he was right.
pythagoras:ALLAH is NOT God. You do not worship God.
I'm sorry for hogging space, but I cant pass on that one.
I have attempted to explain this before, it's harder to explain it than understand it.
"There is no Illah but Allah"...is a lie. If you say it at all, it should be "There is no Allah but Illah. Illah is the Arabic "WORD" for God. It is not a name. The "WORD" 'God' is not a name either, it is a title. Allah...Al-lah, The God, is a "NAME". God has no name, only NOT God, 'things', have names. God is not a thing. God has no name. In the Bible when Moses asks God his name, God avoids the name issue by saying I AM THAT I AM, which is not a name. It means 'existance is existance', and is expressed by YHVH, which actually is not a name either.
There is no Allah but Illah puts Allah in the correct place...'behind' Illah (GOD). 'Get thee from 'behind' me Satan'. Allah, a thing, is material, and out of the cosmic order of things, must follow the "WORD". In the beginning there was the "WORD". And the "WORD" was GOD. All 'things' must follow the "WORD" not lead it. Satan tried to lead it and was booted out for his efforts.
Mohammad reversed the current with the lie...Allah should not lead Illah...The Romans said 'Deus est daemon inversus', which means that Satan/Demon is God inversed or reversed.
Allah is the Lord of matter, since all evil happens in matter, Allah is not 'God The Word',
But 'Allah the thing'...Satan...
Why do they come to the West? To collect the jizya, of course, to have some fresh faces to bully... Muslim countries are densely populated. Thus they need room to expand, land that hasn't been overused and overpopulated...
Sonofwalker;
I've read a bit more since posting(I have a great 2nd job in the evening, low pay but lots of reading time) What I've read so far is fascinating, though I have to admit I struggle with it at times. I'm not sure I'm capable of meeting you on your level yet but this is definitely a line of thought I eagerly anticipate pursuing.
I understand how the countryside/rural utopia and the "native soil" factor heavily in the Romantic counter to liberal rationalism and individualism. I also found very interesting the view that Rationalism is a blueprint for paralysis, mediocrity, and a unremarkable existence.
Hi T-Ham. If you want to put up a review whenever you get a chance I'm happy to host it at my blog. I'm a bit focused for a large audience but I do get some people stopping in consistently who're bright and interesting, and I'm sure you're review would hit the spot. It's also archived, and many people hit on Baruma and Margolit. You might find yourself getting famous.
Do you read Windschuttle, the historian? His work makes me want to immigrate to Australia.
I'm easy to find at John Sobieski's blog, http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com
Keep in touch, as it were. Dag.
"Last night, President Bush said that the so-called fanatic Muslims would like to build an empire reaching from Indonesia to Spain," Omran said during his October 7 sermon. "And he has not said anything as truer or more accurate. What is wrong with doing that? ... What are we doing to achieve that objective?"
Robert at November 5, 2005 08:56 AM
President Bush being a non-Muslim has possibly used the wrong word – empire. Omran, being a Muslim, very well knows that the Muslims can not have any empire whatsoever. They do seek to have the Khilafath, which is not an empire. The last chapter of the Holy Quran is quoted below:
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114:1 Say: I seek refuge with the Lord and Cherisher of Mankind
114:2 the King (or Ruler) of Mankind
114:3 the Allah (or Judge) of Mankind
114:4 from the mischief of the Whisperer (of Evil) who withdraws (after his whisper)
114:5 (the same) who whispers into the hearts of mankind
114:6 among Jinns and among Men.
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The above chapter in conjunction with Verse 65 of Chapter 19 of the Holy Quran quoted below implies the fact that the Muslims can not have any empire.
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19:65 “Lord of the heavens and of the earth and of all that is between them: so worship Him and be constant and patient in His worship: knowest thou of any who is worthy of the same Name as He?”
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No Muslim can be a king or emperor. Thus, there is absolutely no intention to have an empire by the Muslims. Not only that by virtue of 1038 of Sunan Abu Dawood – quoted below – jihad cannot be waged for any worldly benefit.
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Narrated AbuHurayrah
A man said: Apostle of Allah, a man wishes to take part in jihad in Allah's path desiring some worldly advantage? The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: He will have not reward. The people thought it terrible, and they said to the man: Go back to the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him), for you might not have made him understand well. He, therefore, (went and again) asked: Apostle of Allah, a man wishes to take part in jihad in Allah's path desiring some worldly advantage? He replied: There is no reward for him. They again said to the man: Return to the Apostle of Allah. He, therefore, said to him third time. He replied: There is no reward for him.
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So every one could live in peace without any worry. Relax. There would be no Islamic Empire.
THREE brothers have lost a bid to have their sentences reduced for the 2002 gang rape of two teenage girls in Sydney. The three brothers, who can only be identified as MSK, MMK and MAK, were convicted of gang raping the girls at their family's Ashfield home, in Sydney's inner west. MMK, 19, and 27-year-old MSK, are each serving 22-year jail terms for raping the teenagers in July 2002. MAK, 25, was jailed for 16 years. In dismissing the sentence appeals of all three men in the New South Wales Court of Criminal Appeal, Justice Michael Grove criticised an argument put forward on behalf of MSK. Justice Grove said it was "inappropriate" for a lawyer to have described MSK as a "cultural time bomb" and blame the rapes on his upbringing in Pakistan . He dismissed the argument that MSK had raped the girls because he had traditional views of women from his upbringing as a Muslim in Pakistan.
These Muslims raped the girls because they had traditional views of women from upbringing as a Muslim in Pakistan !!!!
Anyone surprised on this ..... !!!!
No... atleast I am NOT surprised.
Why should they be jailed.... When they were only doing thier HISTORICAL DUTY !!!
AND ... Certainly NO MUSLIM should be punished for Raping teen aged girls. AND that too if that Muslim belongs to a PAKISTANI origin !!!
What you think ! Other MUSLIMS of NON-PAKISTANI origin should be denied the pleasure and birth right of making use of their BASIC INSTINTS handed over to them for the last 1400 yrs !!!!
Institutionalized (and)
Satanically-
Led
Association (of)
Mass-murderers.