Die in your anger

Bet you thought Hitler was dead. Nope, he's alive and well in Iran. I know it's hard to recognise him in his disguise, but it's him.
Back in the saddle again. Preparing new wonders for the world...Maybe Nostradamus was right, he said ww3 would end in Iran...

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says: "You, who have used nuclear weapons against innocent people, who have used uranium ordnance in Iraq should be tried as war criminals in courts,"

What a pinhead. Depleted uranium tips on kinetic enegy weapons (cannon projectiles) are used because of the density of the material. It is simple physics. Depleted uranium tips sitting on the end of a bullet have more potential energy than styrofoam, wood, iron, steel, etc., thus more penetrating power! They are NOT nuclear, radioactive weapons. Dhimmi media will not explain this. Kind of like the white phosphorous "poison gas" weapons of mass destruction currently used by the U.S.

I DIGRESS. Iran is ruled by dangerous fanatics. Post-modern, cultural relativism aside, by any rational standard they are raving lunatics. Call me racist, islamophobic, or paranoid if you will but that is my judgement and I'm sticking to it.

Fortunately, for now (but not much longer), Iran's nut-case rulers preside over a militarily impotent kingdom. Right now (but for not much longer) all they can do is work themselves up by the millions into a homicidal frenzy for the television cameras.

One of the more chilling descriptions of an islamofascist regime like Iran with a nuclear weapon was that of a rabid monkey with a hand grenade (in a crowded kindergarten classroom). How irresponsible would it be to allow that rabid monkey to walk over to the box of hand grenades in plain view to begin with? This is precisely the current european policy of Iranian islamofascist appeasement. Europe has a history of appeasement which results in the deaths of millions.

The pusillanimous, submissive gesturing of europe before Iran's rabid monkey, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is suicidal. How much more submissive a posture can europeans assume?

When the rabid monkey begins brandishing a hand grenade, we shall see.

GWB you f#####g moron!!! iran was a pussy cat before you decided to invade it=raq, now you have personally created a f@@@@@g monster! iran is responsible for much of the terror activities in iraq, sponsoring the terror in iraq and posssibly harbouring OBL. Why the hell did you remove saddam? He helped keep iran in check and the entire middle east relatively free from jihadists.
George my lad, you f####d up big time and now we are seeing the blood of brave americans thanks to your balls up.

"GWB you f#####g moron!!! "

lord lucan:

And your strategy would have been what again???

Give this a little time; Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will do more to harm the Islamic cause than help it. He's going to be right up there with al-Zarqawi as an idiot tactician because of his arrogance.

At least Hitler had the sense to feign peace while mobilizing his armies.

my strategy would have been to have kept saddam in power so he could've continued to keep the bad guys in iraq and iran in check. the bad guys he was killing, torturing and in prison are the ones we are now fighting and who are actively blowing us up. by going into iraq we kicked open an ant hill. now look, iran is getting nukes, killing our guys and what? we are doing nothing, in fact its too late for action, any move against iran will prempt ww3.

my advice, bring back saddam, arm him to the teeth and let him do what the f##k he wants in the middle east.

find alternative fuel, drill in anwar, f#####g anything so we lose our dependence in the middle east.

bring home our boys, we dont need to lose another american in that filthy s###hole.

bring about war crimes on the bush administration for the invasion on behalf of saudi arabia.

sieze all saudi assets, stop all diplomatic ties with that country. possibly let saddam invade it, slaughter the f#####s.

demand that iran hands over OBL or face a nuclear holocaust.

lucan,
Chill out mate. You're getting all twisted up because of your ignorance.

Iran has been the major sponsor of jihadist terror in the region for the past 35 years.
So they've been everything but a pussycat.

Saddam was a monster with monsterous intent and had to go. With Afganistan and now Iraq militarily subdued, what you are seeing from the Iranians are the reactions of a cornered raccoon.
They are feeling the heat and know they are next.

The verbal diarrhea coming from the Iranian leadership is nothing more than getting it's masses psycologicly prepared and onto the same war footing their military is already on.

It's just part of the chess game called the war on terror. So be prepared for things to get alot uglier in the coming years.

And the title of "lord" usually connotates someone with wisdom, intelligence, and respect. From the looks of your rant, maybe you might want to do a reality check.

Oh my lord, lucan... please tell me you're not serious. Tell me that you're a little stressed out because the inlaws have been visiting for 3 days and the turkey was too dry. I'll understand.

William the Crusader:

Thanks. I couldn't have said it better.

so william, will you be on the front lines? will you be leading the charge? i hope so, one thing i can't stand is an arm chair warrior.
our brave lads are f#####g dieing, getting slaughtered for nothing. iran, saddam pissed on them, they were nothing, now iraq is a mess, iran has invaded iraq, its over for us there. we cannot fight iran, and if iran gets nukes israel is dead, because we screwed up big time removing saddam.
so william, i hope you will be packing your nbc suit, sa80, kissing your wife goodbye and fighting this new powerful iranian threat.

Iran has invaded Iraq??

Did I miss something?

Iran has invaded Iraq??

Did I miss something?

er, yes you did! iranian bomb makers in iraq blowing up british in basra, iranian fighters in iraq. iranian clerics in iraq leading the revolution there. i'm suprised that someone on jihad watch didnt't know that?

Soldiers punished for burning dead terrorists:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/11/26/afghan.us.soldiers/index.html?section=cnn_topstories

Apparently, it's about "allies" getting "offended"

I'd say the best defense is a good offense. I notice the "allies" aren't particularly offended when infidel soldiers are burnt alive. With "friends" like these, who needs enemies?

The war on terror has turned into a joke, when the double-dealing "allies" are haughtily calling the shots, so that everyone is falling all over themselves to lick their behinds. A totally failing strategy and mindset.

sanman
ever heard of the geneva convention? we cannot stoop to their level, never!

"YOU WHO HAVE USED NUCLEAR WEAPONS AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE..."
Actually he has a point - think of the DEPLETED URANIUM BOMBS dropped on innocent civilians in the Balkans, WHICH STILL POISON WATER AND LAND IN SERBIA AND KOSOVO TODAY.
Old sins cast long shadows : morally U.S hasn't got a leg to stand on with its terrible record of napalm on innocent villagers, the support of evil regimes including Indonesia against East Timor [fellow Christian] and equally reprehensible sallies into South America.
Not that this excuses Mahmoud from his wannabe excesses but do not let this be an exercise of 'the pot calling the kettle black.'

yes and remeber that we armed saddam to the teeth, gave him WMD's let him slaughter iran, then removed him from power. We are basically answering for our mistakes. time to end our little middle eastern affair, pull out now.

Oh, and by the way, I thought most ordinary Muslims like to claim that "these terrorists aren't Muslims anyway"??

So which is it -- are they or aren't they?
Are they regarded as respected Muslims entitled to full burial honors, or are they terrorists who have gone outside of Islam and are no longer part of the Muslim community?

Would someone care to explain this to my addled dhimmi mind??

Mr Spencer? Can you please give some direct commentary on this one, please?

lord lucan:

You say "ever heard of the geneva convention? we cannot stoop to their level, never!"

But you also say "my advice, bring back saddam, arm him to the teeth and let him do what the f##k he wants in the middle east."

I just don't see the consistency in this. How can you take the moral high ground with the Geneva Convention but support bringing Saddam back todo whatever he likes?

Don't tell me, I know, it's not supposed to make any sense.

yes but its never against the geneva contention to arm other countries and get them to do your necesary dirty work.

lucan, shouldn't the Geneva Convention be applicable to those who signed it and abide by it? Otherwise, then what's the value and purpose of the Geneva Convention? Why aren't the jihadis signing the Geneva Convention, if they regard themselves as legitimate soldiers? It's called Asymmetric Warfare.

Why are infidels expected to fight with one arm tied behind their backs, while the Muslim "allies" cluck their tongues disapprovingly?

How come there are no calls from "mainstream Muslims" on getting the "misguided Muslims" to sign the Geneva Convention?

No taxation without representation -- no obligation without reciprocal obligation. If you want to be covered by the treaty, then abide by it yourself through your own conduct. If you don't abide by it, then don't expect to be covered.

Sorry for posting the whole letter, but I sure enjoyed reading it, and it's a perspective you don't hear every day. If you're not interested in the operational details, just read the last paragraph; I almost always here positive comments like this from the guys on the ground.

........................................

Hello to all my fellow gunners, military buffs, veterans and interested guys.
A couple of weekends ago I got to spend time with my son Jordan,
who was on his first leave since returning from Iraq. He is well (a
little thin), and already bored. He will be returning to Iraq for a
second tour in early 06 and has already re-enlisted early for 4 more
years. He loves the Marine Corps and is actually looking forward to
returning to Iraq.

Jordan spent 7 months at Camp Blue Diamond in Ramadi. Aka: Fort Apache.
He saw and did a lot and the following is what he told me about weapons,
equipment, tactics and other miscellaneous info which may be of interest
to you. Nothing is by any means classified. No politics here, just a
Marine with a birds eye views opinions:

1) The M-16 rifle : Thumbs down. Chronic jamming problems with the
talcum powder like sand over there. The sand is everywhere. Jordan says
you feel filthy 2 minutes after coming out of the shower. The M-4
carbine version is more popular because its lighter and shorter, but it
has jamming problems also. They like the ability to mount the various
optical gunsights and weapons lights on the picattiny rails, but the
weapon itself is not great in a desert environment. They all hate the
5.56mm (.223) round. Poor penetration on the cinderblock structure
common over there and even torso hits cant be reliably counted on to put
the enemy down. Fun fact: Random autopsies on dead insurgents shows a
high level of opiate use.

2) The M243 SAW (squad assault weapon): .223 cal. Drum fed light machine
gun. Big thumbs down. Universally considered a piece of shit. Chronic
jamming problems, most of which require partial disassembly. (that fun
in the middle of a firefight).

3) The M9 Beretta 9mm: Mixed bag. Good gun, performs well in desert
environment; but they all hate the 9mm cartridge. The use of handguns
for self-defense is actually fairly common. Same old story on the 9mm:
Bad guys hit multiple times and still in the fight.

4) Mossberg 12ga. Military shotgun: Works well, used frequently for
clearing houses to good effect.

5) The M240 Machine Gun: 7.62 Nato (.308) cal. belt fed machine gun,
developed to replace the old M-60 (what a beautiful weapon that was!!).
Thumbs up. Accurate, reliable, and the 7.62 round puts em down.
Originally developed as a vehicle mounted weapon, more and more are
being dismounted and taken into the field by infantry. The 7.62 round
chews up the structure over there.

6) The M2 .50 cal heavy machine gun: Thumbs way, way up. Ma deuce is
still worth her considerable weight in gold. The ultimate fight stopper,
puts their dicks in the dirt every time. The most coveted weapon
in-theater.

7) The .45 pistol: Thumbs up. Still the best pistol round out there.
Everybody authorized to carry a sidearm is trying to get their hands on
one. With few exceptions, can reliably be expected to put em down with a
torso hit. The special ops guys (who are doing most of the pistol work)
use the HK military model and supposedly love it. The old government
model .45s are being re-issued en masse.

8) The M-14: Thumbs up. They are being re-issued in bulk, mostly in a
modified version to special ops guys. Modifications include lightweight
Kevlar stocks and low power red dot or ACOG sights. Very reliable in the
sandy environment, and they love the 7.62 round.

9) The Barrett .50 cal sniper rifle: Thumbs way up. Spectacular range
and accuracy and hits like a freight train. Used frequently to take out
vehicle suicide bombers ( we actually stop a lot of them) and barricaded
enemy. Definitely here to stay.

10) The M24 sniper rifle: Thumbs up. Mostly in .308 but some in 300 win
mag. Heavily modified Remington 700s. Great performance. Snipers have
been used heavily to great effect. Rumor has it that a marine sniper on
his third tour in Anbar province has actually exceeded Carlos Hathcocks
record for confirmed kills with OVER 100.

11) The new body armor: Thumbs up. Relatively light at approx. 6 lbs.
and can reliably be expected to soak up small shrapnel and even will
stop an AK-47 round. The bad news: Hot as shit to wear, almost
unbearable in the summer heat (which averages over 120 degrees). Also,
the enemy now goes for head shots whenever possible. All the bullshit
about the old body armor making our guys vulnerable to the IEDs was a
non-starter. The IED explosions are enormous and body armor doesn't make
any difference at all in most cases.

12) Night Vision and Infrared Equipment: Thumbs way up. Spectacular
performance. Our guys see in the dark and own the night, period. Very
little enemy action after evening prayers. More and more enemy being
whacked at night during movement by our hunter-killer teams. Weve all
seen the videos.

13) Lights: Thumbs up. Most of the weapon mounted and personal lights
are Surefires, and the troops love em. Invaluable for night urban
operations. Jordan carried a $34 Surefire G2 on a neck lanyard and loved
it.

I cant help but notice that most of the good fighting weapons and
ordnance are 50 or more years old!!!!!!!!! With all our technology, its
the WWII and Vietnam era weapons that everybody wants!!!! The infantry
fighting is frequent, up close and brutal. No quarter is given or shown.

Bad guy weapons:

1) Mostly AK47s . The entire country is an arsenal. Works better in the
desert than the M16 and the .308 Russian round kills reliably. PKM belt
fed light machine guns are also common and effective. Luckily, the enemy
mostly shoots like shit. Undisciplined spray and pray type fire.
However, they are seeing more and more precision weapons, especially
sniper rifles. (Iran, again) Fun fact: Captured enemy have apparently
marveled at the marksmanship of our guys and how hard they fight. They
are apparently told in Jihad school that the Americans rely solely on
technology, and can be easily beaten in close quarters combat for their
lack of toughness. Lets just say they know better now.

2) The RPG: Probably the infantry weapon most feared by our guys.
Simple, reliable and as common as dogshit. The enemy responded to our
up-armored humvees by aiming at the windshields, often at point blank
range. Still killing a lot of our guys.

3) The IED: The biggest killer of all. Can be anything from old Soviet
anti-armor mines to jury rigged artillery shells. A lot found in Jordans
area were in abandoned cars. The enemy would take 2 or 3 155mm artillery
shells and wire them together. Most were detonated by cell phone, and
the explosions are enormous. You're not safe in any vehicle, even an M1
tank. Driving is by far the most dangerous thing our guys do over there.
Lately, they are much more sophisticated shape charges (Iranian)
specifically designed to penetrate armor. Fact: Most of the ready made
IEDs are supplied by Iran, who is also providing terrorists (Hezbollah
types) to train the insurgents in their use and tactics. Thats why the
attacks have been so deadly lately. Their concealment methods are
ingenious, the latest being shape charges in Styrofoam containers spray
painted to look like the cinderblocks that litter all Iraqi roads. We
find about 40% before they detonate, and the bomb disposal guys are
unsung heroes of this war.

4) Mortars and rockets: Very prevalent. The soviet era 122mm rockets
(with an 18km range) are becoming more prevalent. One of Jordans NCOs
lost a leg to one. These weapons cause a lot of damage inside the wire.
Jordans base was hit almost daily his entire time there by mortar and
rocket fire, often at night to disrupt sleep patterns and cause fatigue
(It did). More of a psychological weapon than anything else. The enemy
mortar teams would jump out of vehicles, fire a few rounds, and then
haul ass in a matter of seconds.

5) Bad guy technology: Simple yet effective. Most communication is by
cell and satellite phones, and also by email on laptops. They use
handheld GPS units for navigation and Google earth for overhead views of
our positions. Their weapons are good, if not fancy, and prevalent.
Their explosives and bomb technology is TOP OF THE LINE. Night vision is
rare. They are very careless with their equipment and the captured GPS
units and laptops are treasure troves of Intel when captured.

Who are the bad guys?:

Most of the carnage is caused by the Zarqawi Al Qaeda group. They
operate mostly in Anbar province (Fallujah and Ramadi). These are mostly
foreigners, non-Iraqi Sunni Arab Jihadists from all over the Muslim
world (and Europe). Most enter Iraq through Syria (with, of course, the
knowledge and complicity of the Syrian govt.) , and then travel down the
at line which is the trail of towns along the Euphrates River that weve
been hitting hard for the last few months. Some are virtually untrained
young Jihadists that often end up as suicide bombers or in sacrifice
squads. Most, however, are hard core terrorists from all the usual
suspects (Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas etc.) These are the guys running
around murdering civilians en masse and cutting heads off. The Chechens
(many of whom are Caucasian), are supposedly the most ruthless and the
best fighters. (they have been fighting the Russians for years). In the
Baghdad area and south, most of the insurgents are Iranian inspired (and
led) Iraqi Shiites. The Iranian Shiia have been very adept at
infiltrating the Iraqi local govt., the police forces and the Army. The
have had a massive spy and agitator network there since the Iran-Iraq
war in the early 80s. Most of the Saddam loyalists were killed, captured
or gave up long ago.

Bad Guy Tactics:

When they are engaged on an infantry level they get their asses kicked
every time. Brave, but stupid. Suicidal Banzai-type charges were very
common earlier in the war and still occur. They will literally sacrifice
8-10 man teams in suicide squads by sending them screaming and firing
Aks and RPGs directly at our bases just to probe the defenses. They get
mowed down like grass every time. ( see the M2 and M240 above). Jordans
base was hit like this often. When engaged, they have a tendency to flee
to the same building, probably for what they think will be a glorious
last stand. Instead, we call in air and thats the end of that more often
than not. These hole-ups are referred to as Alpha Whiskey Romeos (Allahs
Waiting Room). We have the laser guided ground-air thing down to a
science. The fast movers, mostly Marine F-18s, are taking an ever
increasing toll on the enemy. When caught out in the open, the
helicopter gunships and AC-130 Spectre gunships cut them to ribbons with
cannon and rocket fire, especially at night. Interestingly, artillery is
hardly used at all. Fun fact: The enemy death toll is supposedly between
45-50 thousand. That is why were seeing less and less infantry attacks
and more IED, suicide bomber shit. The new strategy is simple:
attrition.

The insurgent tactic most frustrating is their use of civilian
non-combatants as cover. They know we do all we can to avoid civilian
casualties and therefore schools, hospitals and (especially) Mosques are
locations where they meet, stage for attacks, cache weapons and ammo and
flee to when engaged. They have absolutely no regard whatsoever for
civilian casualties. They will terrorize locals and murder without
hesitation anyone believed to be sympathetic to the Americans or the new
Iraqi govt. Kidnapping of family members (especially children) is common
to influence people they are trying to influence but cant reach, such as
local govt. officials, clerics, tribal leaders, etc.).

The first thing our guys are told is don't get captured. They know that
if captured they will be tortured and beheaded on the internet. Zarqawi
openly offers bounties for anyone who brings him a live American
serviceman. This motivates the criminal element who otherwise don't give
a shit about the war. A lot of the beheading victims were actually
kidnapped by common criminals and sold to Zarqawi. As such, for our
guys, every fight is to the death. Surrender is not an option.

The Iraqis are a mixed bag. Some fight well, others aren't worth a shit.
Most do okay with American support. Finding leaders is hard, but they
are getting better. It is widely viewed that Zarqawis use of suicide
bombers, en masse, against the civilian population was a serious
tactical mistake. Many Iraqis were galvanized and the caliber of
recruits in the Army and the police forces went up, along with their
motivation. It also led to an exponential increase in good intel because
the Iraqis are sick of the insurgent attacks against civilians. The
Kurds are solidly pro-American and fearless fighters.

According to Jordan, morale among our guys is very high. They not only
believe they are winning, but that they are winning decisively. They are
stunned and dismayed by what they see in the American press, whom they
almost universally view as against them. The embedded reporters are
despised and distrusted. They are inflicting casualties at a rate of
20-1 and then see shit like Are we losing in Iraq on TV and the print
media. For the most part, they are satisfied with their equipment, food
and leadership. Bottom line though, and they all say this, there are not
enough guys there to drive the final stake through the heart of the
insurgency, primarily because there aren't enough troops in-theater to
shut down the borders with Iran and Syria. The Iranians and the Syrians
just cant stand the thought of Iraq being an American ally (with, of
course, permanent US bases there).

Iran funded the bombing of the Marine barracks in 1983 in Lebanon that killed 241 people. They have funded Muslim terrorism worldwide for decades. Hardly a "pussycat", unless you are totally ignorant of world affairs. Let themm build their reactors, then they will be bombed into dust, as Saddam's Osiric reactor was. Sic semper tyrannis.

lord lucan, what's dirty about not being covered by something you didn't sign and aren't even respecting yourself through your own conduct?

Islamist philosphy: What's mine is mine, what's yours we share.

They want to violate the Geneva Convention themselves, through their own dastardly terrorism which is clearly outside the Geneva Convention, and then they should expect coverage under the Geneva Convention? What kind of crock is that?

so the next time you see a muslim prisoner of war paraded on CNN, or more iraqi prisoners photographed in abu gharib then expect them to do their worst, ten fold. thats why we should always try and take the moral high ground when slaughtering these f###s. yes war is hypocritical but don't give them an inch.

lucan:

There you go again. You say "yes and remeber that we armed saddam to the teeth, gave him WMD's let him slaughter iran, then removed him from power. We are basically answering for our mistakes."

But then you say "my advice, bring back saddam, arm him to the teeth and let him do what the f##k he wants in the middle east."

Are you arguing for war by proxy or against it?

Lord Lucan: "...relatively free from jihadists..."

Just how many jihadists does it take to be 'relatively free from them? One? Ten? One hundred? What does 'relatively free from jihadists'mean? It means nothing because there is no such thing. It means that 'someone' is willing to tolerate jihadists as long as there are 'relatively' few of them. It was a relatively few of them that destroyed the towers and all those lives. It only takes one to blow up a pizza parlor in Israel. Only a few commited attrocities on those school children in Beslan and only one killed Van Gogh.
One jihadist is one to many.
Bush may be a bumbling idiot to some people, but he did not create Islam, and it's built in plan for world domination. Even Mohammad didn't want to do that. He just wanted to raid his neighbors, capture lots of slavegirls steal the treasuries of Ceasar and Chusroes, "the treasures of Chusroes and Caesar will be given to him by conquest." Tabari V6:82. Islam should have died when he did, but his survivors had bigger plans. These plans are in effect today. Jihad is the tool of choice for the plan of world domination. 'They' keep saying that... Thats why one jihadist is one to many...

well remember that saddam hated, and i mean hated the wahabi cult. he imprisoned, tortured and stamped on this so whilst iraq was "islamic" it was still relatively free of jihadists. if it is a crime to have jihadists in your country then britain is guilty of harbouring terrorists and giving them freedom to carry out jihad in the middle east, so logically london should be bombed into submission by B52's? saddam could've been the greatest ally in the middle east, israel? huh, with a few billion and extra WMD's saddam couldve been bought and told not to threaten israel.

You can file Ahmadinejad's statement that Imperial Japan in WW2 was "innocent" when it was bombed by America alongside the Arab proclamation that North America was peopled by natives that were speaking Arabic when Columbus arrived in the "New World". Japan had invaded Manchuria during the 1930s and had killed about 35,000,000 human beings (who really were innocent) in human experiments at "Unit 731" aka the 'Water Purification Plant." (THAT'S "INNOCENCE" ACCORDING TO a MUSLIM--killing 35 MILLION human beings).

In contrast to Imperial Japan's invasion of Manchuria, the US' defensive atomic bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima killed less than 1% of the Chinese murdered by Imperial Japan. The "innocent" Imperial Japanese started this war which killed over 42,000,000 people--mostly civilians. Islam's definition of "innocence" is a mystery to us here. Since Muslims apparently haven't a clue to the meaning of that word.

We'll file the Iranian dictator's remark under I for "Islamic idiocy."

Since Islam has declared war on all non-muslims going so far as to classify them as inhabiting the "House of War" (as opposed to the House of al-lah, inhabited by Muslims) the non-muslim world could try Islamic leaders for war crimes...that is, using this moron's specious logic.

Should we then just forget about Darfur in 2004 and 2005? southern Thailand? East Timor? the Assyrians? the Biafrans in the 1960s? the Hindus in Bangladesh in 1971? Maybe Bosnia in the 1990s?Although the Europeans have forgotten or else ignored these and numerous other fairly recent instances of Islamic-perpetrated genocide, people with consciences have NOT. Believe me.

No Muslim has any business pointing the finger at other nations claiming "war crimes." Not now. Not ever.

Oh,and by the way, I have an employment opportunity for for Mr. Ahmadinejad: since he's no Islamic cleric and he's too dumb to do anything other than terrorize the Iranian people and the world in general, how about a job as stand-up comedian in southern California?? There's plenty of garbage-can establishments with dangling lightbulbs that would LOVE to be livened up by his sleazy shenanigans. And the audiences would howl with laughter too!!!!!

There's even Iranian cable channels to beam his hilarity back to Iran!

Come to California, Mr. Ahmadinejad! We could use a few more laughs!

hey bill_carson

thats a great posting.

interseting fact you gave.
"Fun fact: Random autopsies on dead insurgents shows a
high level of opiate use."

i wonder if that is down to low moral?

hope your kid is safe over there, good luck to him.

sorry bill, it isnt your kid!

but here we go, training from iran and iranian forces invading iraq.

"However, they are seeing more and more precision weapons, especially sniper rifles. (Iran, again)"

Pythagoras:

I'm afraid he already has a long-standing gig in Branson, MO.

You can view his website here: http://www.yakov.com/

(I knew he looked familiar...)

Morgane:
you said "Actually he has a point - think of the DEPLETED URANIUM BOMBS dropped on innocent civilians in the Balkans, WHICH STILL POISON WATER AND LAND IN SERBIA AND KOSOVO TODAY."

Help us out here. Please listen. No matter what your political agenda, the truth should be important. Anti-U.S. propaganda about the use of depleted uranium in weapons demonstrates profound ignorance of simple science.

The misconceptions you parroted concerning depleted uranium are utter nonsense. I was a pilot in the Balkans conflict (ironically, rescuing muslims) and one of our primary munitions was 30mm depleted uranium cannon projectiles.

First, we did NOT attack innocent civilians. Enormous time, energy, and effort were (and to this very day are) expended to avoid attacking any innocents. Those pilots involved in the rare, inadvertant, accidental death or injury of innocent civilians were subjected to draconian investigation and exonerated in every case. The accidental death of innocents is every pilot's worst nighmare. Anything said to the contrary is a lie. Period.

Also, "Depleted uranium" bombs do not exist. Nobody dropped "uranium" bombs on anybody! No such thing exists. It would not even make any sense to make a bomb out of depleted uranium! Bombs are gravity weapons and would not benefit from the kinetic energy stored in the ultra dense mass of a DU tipped cannon projectile.

It is important to recongnize that depelted uranium is not classified as a dangerous substance radiologically. Extensive studies have concluded that no radiological health hazard should be expected from exposure to depleted uranium. There are no reputable reports of cancer or other negative health effects from radiation exposure to ingested or inhaled natural or depleted uranium, despite much study. Like most radionuclides, it is not known as a carcinogen, or to cause birth defects (from effects in utero) or to cause genetic mutations.

Depleted uranium (DU)has long had mundane uses which take advantage of the metal's very high density (1.7 times that of lead). Hence, where maximum mass must fit in minimum space, such as aircraft control surface and helicopter counterweights, yacht keels, etc, it is often well suited. Until the mid 1970s it was used in dental porcelains. In addition it is used for radiation shielding, being some five times more effective than lead in this role.

Also because of its density, it is used as solid slugs or penetrators in armour-piercing projectiles, alloyed with abut 0.75% titanium. DU is pyrophoric, so that upon impact about 30% of the projectile atomises and burns to uranium oxide dust. It was widely used in the Kuwait war (300 tons) and less so in Kosovo (11 tons).

In 2001 the UN Environment Program examined the effects of nine tonnes of DU munitions having been used in Kosovo, checking the sites targeted by it. UNEP found no widespread contamination, no sign of contamination in water of the food chain and no correlation with reported ill-health in NATO peacekeepers. A two-year study by Sandia National Laboratories in USA reported in 2005 that consistent with earlier studies, reports of serious health risks from DU exposure during the 1991 Gulf War are not supported by medical statistics or by analysis. The risk from external exposure is essentially zero, even when pure metal is handled. No detectable increases of cancer, leukaemia, birth defects or other negative health effects have ever been observed from radiation exposure to inhaled or ingested natural uranium concentrates, at levels far exceeding those likely in areas where DU munitions have been used. This is mainly because the low radioactivity per unit mass of uranium means that the mass needed for significant internal exposure would be virtually impossible to accumulate in the body

Please, help put this depleted uranium superstition to rest. I give you my testimony in addition to the readily available facts presented above. I have been around DU tipped weapons my entire adult life and am happy and healthy (having avoided being hit on the head by said DU projectiles). My six children are happy and healthy also. Thus DU is clearly dangerous for people in vehicles which are military targets, but for anyone else - even in a war zone - there is little hazard.

Most importantly to me, the next time you accuse American pilots of deliberately attacking innocent civilians, ask yourself why in the hell that would be something anybody would want to do? What purpose would it serve? Where is the logic of dropping "uranium bombs" on innocents? Where is the military advantage? Good publicity? Accidental death or injury does afflict civilians in any war but the key word is accidental.

Diliberate attacks on innocent civilians just did not happen. It does not have to happen. The strategic area bombardment of Nazi and Imperial Japanese population centers in WWII was dictated by the targets and the limited technology at hand. Those days are over for good.

Sources:
BNFL, Cogema, JNFL, SKB and ANSTO publications and papers.
Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, Nov-Dec 1999.
New Scientist 5 & 26/6/99, AFP 29/10/01.
UNEP/UNCHS, 1999, Balkans Task Force report, Appendix 4.
OECD NEA 2001, Management of Depleted Uranium.
Burchall & Clark, Depleted Uranium, NRPB Bulletin #229, March 2001.
Sandia report 2005.

"Diliberate attacks on innocent civilians just did not happen"

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9904/13/nato.attack.03/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/9/newsid_2519000/2519271.stm

http://mondediplo.com/2000/07/03kosovo

In "Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis, I recall the advice of uncle Screwtape to his nephew Wormwood. "Indeed the safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts"

Up until 9-11, I believe much, if not all of the West was on the safe road to Islam. In fact, had GWB and TB not taken the fight to Afganistan and Iraq, even 9-11 would have been quickly forgotten and certainly never understood for what it was. In fact, even now, with all of the attention the war on terror has brought, there is still only a slow awakening to the lessons of the Ottoman empire and Islamic expansion.

Although OBL is thought by many to be a good strategist, I beleive he will go down in history is the man ultimately responsible for the hault of modern Islamic expansion. He shook the world from its slumber about 3 or 4 decades too early. He should have let everyone sleep while muslim immigration and high birth rates continued in the west. He should have been content as liberal western policies financially supported the take-over of our neighborhoods by non-integrating muslim communities. He should have been satisfied with genocides in Africa and Asia where little attention is paid in the West. He should have been content with the destruction of Buddhist monuments in Afganistan and Christian churches in Indonesia.

But no... OBL made the tactical mistake of escalating the war before the muslim world was in a position to win. I beleive it will, in the end, prove to be a fatal mistake. And in their ignorance, those like al-Zarqawi and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad beleive they are supporting the cause by rising up, when in fact they are defeating it. They should open up their Korans and take some advice - taqiyya and kitman were the winning strategy. Everyone would have slept right through until the end of the 4th quarter when it was too late.

Morgane:

Here's a link to the WHO that mentions studies in Kosovo and supports what THw6kds posted above.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs257/en/

lucan:

The links you supplied only support examples of "attacks on innocent civilians".

Do you have any that support "deliberate" attacks?

XRDC:

But what I want to know is, are they beaming Ahmadinejad's shtick at Branson, MO back to Iran???

pythagoras:

Are you kidding? If the clerics knew he was posing as a russian spy they'd heve his head by now.

Lord Lucan-

What you are forgetting is that Saddam Hussein would have had absolutely NO INTENTION of limiting his demented war shenanigans to the Middle East. The man, corrupt as he was considered in the eyes of Islamic fundamentalists, was very eager to spread Islam by the sword throughout the world.

If you have been following this website you may have noticed occasional (and usually substantiated) articles revealing Mr. Hussein to be a sponsor of Islamic terrorism if not an Islamic terrorist himself. Hussein was involved in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Tower, a terrorist attack on an airliner (in 1996) flying over Long Island, NY which crashed and killed over 200 people (this terrorist attack provides evidence that for a time Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda indeed collaborated at least on occasion) and the terror assaults on the US Embassies in 1998 in Kenya and Tanzania.
Saddam Hussein also was a financial sponsor of the Abu Sayyaf Network in the Philippines among others. He had no intention of changing his ways either.

Now regarding Iran being a 'pussycat' before the US invasion of Iraq--whatever gave you that idea?

According to the intelligence reports I have read Iran has orchestrated the violent wars in much of sub-Saharan Africa in ways including supplying the intelligence and war material for the ongoing war in Sudan (usually overlooked by western Europeans in their zeal to bash the United States for world political developments they are unhappy about--and yes I can and WILL take issue with western Europeans for that although it is largely irrelevant here) which has killed well over 2 million people (that we know about). In addition, Iran is the founder and co-ordinater of HIZBOLLAH, the world's largest Islamic terrorist organization that has been active in dozens of nations across the globe, particularly in arming and training terrorist cells. Hizbollah has killed thousands of non-Muslims in many conflicted areas where Islam is at war with the 'infidels.' I'd read up on that one if I were you.

Your statement that Iran was a 'pussycat' clearly needs revision. You should do your homework before you make statements like that one.

When people pick up bad information such as some of your statements we lose ground dealing with Islamic terror.

hey lord lucan, seems like you are getting ganged up on...Good

Really love your "sources" about American pilots deliberately attacking innocent civilians.

In spite of the fact that you cite CNN World, BBC, and "Le Monde Diplomatique" all impeccable and objective sources at one time or another of vile, anti- American propaganda (I am in Oslo, Norway right now with the BBC on in the background and they never surprise me), NONE of them cited credible evidence that attacks which resulted in civilian deaths were deliberate.

The evidence they present at "Le Monde Diplomatique" (one of my favorites) was the reporting of a M. Cordone and M. Gidron. Frenchy French men. They are trustworthy and they love America. Enough said. The accusation at CNN World came from Milosovic's Foreign Minister....YGTBSM!!! Ha! (real credible). Hell, the whole thing was on video. It was shown for what it was, an accident. As for the Chinese embassy bombing, if the commies ultimately bought the accident story, why can't you? What about Al Jazeera? Guess you forgot to cite them. How about "Baghdad Bob"? He will tell you what you want to hear.

When American forces are commited to combat, who you believe is important. The truth matters.
In every case NATO commanders addressed each and every accusation in detail in a way only possible in a free and open society. That is never good enough for people who are conviced that we are always the bad guys.

Sometimes I wonder why we don't just say "yeah, you are right and if you don't shut up we will bomb the crap out of you too!" It works for the muslim terrorists against dhimmi twits in the west, maybe we can make it work for us too. Probably not because, like the muslims, we would actually have to deliberately kill some innocents to gain credibility. Yeah, lord lucan, that is something we don't do.

It is entertaining to hear what you have to say from time to time and to realize that people like you really are out there.

Your willingness to ascribe murderous intentions to guys who risk their pink butts to keep you at room temperature is despicable. Speaks volumes about where your head is.

I enjoy the hell out of this blog and part of the fun is categorizing different posters on their knowlege and credibility. Got you categorized lord lucan!

lord lucan,
Same here, none of those support the accusation of "deliberate". The US has worked long and hard to decrease civilian deaths in warfare, but that can't be acknowledged can it? Instead, mistakes are twisted into intentional by those with an agenda, the truth be damned.
As for Ahmadinejad, many in the Middle East seem to be unable to grasp history, but sure can weave fantasies.

Memo to Morgane--

The US ABSOLUTELY DOES have a leg to stand on morally. If you read twentieth century history in detail you would (and should) know this.

The incidents you describe were a part of the Cold War which was started by the Soviet Union in 1950. Many of those villages that were napalmed were believed to be headquarters of Communist guerilla activity. The US was NOT attacking civilian non-combatants as you have selectively and manipulatively stated.

The Communist movement in the twentieth century is responsible for the murders of over 50 MILLION civilians in Russia under Stalin, 75 MILLION civilians in China during the 1960s, and approximately 50 MILLION during the late 1940s. The Communist Manifesto procalims that Communism is to be spread throughout the world by violent revolution. That is why the US worked so hard to counter it.

The US found it necessary to deal with Indonesia's government in order to counter Communist expansion in SE Asia. Indonesia in the 1960s unfortunately did not have a democratic directiona . Indonesia's political landscape offered Communist party that was the world's third largest and it offered a military dictatorship-- and little else. The US found it necessary to deal with what was there. It had no other options. It would not have been possible to isolate Indonesia internationally at that time. So you are out of line in stating there was a moral transgression at work here.

Incidentally, if you are from Europe take comfort in knowing that western Europeans similarly did business with Suharto's dictatorship--by choice.

So take your moral 'superiority' act and ----- it.

Sorry Folks - those who want 'to explain away' depleted uranium bombs on Balkans, I stand with Lord Lucan . There is a huge amount of evidence from independent observers also from Serbs who are trying to get perpetrators on stand in The Hague.{ Ironically this is also brought up on Islamic websites as 'one of America's crimes'].
Since there are quite few instances of American pilots 'bombing & killing ' British allies in Iraq war obviously 'precision bombing' leaves a lot to be desired....
Now we come to cynical reality of Kosovo - big U.S mining corporations are already there with approval from their masters to get the loot out! One of the few assests of Kosovo is its minerals including gold - Trepca mine is worth billions and 'philanthropist ' George Soros has been interested in it since war began. Whatever Nato or the West protest, KOSOVO BELONGS TO SERBIA AND IF TAKEN AWAY IS ANOTHER LAND GRAB. What gives Nato or U.N both under domination of Armerica the right to take away another's country 's land to enrich themselves or because it is expedient to do so for THEIR POLITICAL AGENDA??
It was in U.S interests to have a fractured Yugoslavia; nothing which would threaten precious oil pipelines for Western consumption.
Serbia is the important crossroads region therefore she must stay weak and never dare to dream of a Greater Serbia.
Of course, pleasing Saudi allies was another factor...
Okay, U.S and Nato have destroyed the 'Guardians at the Gate' whom for centuries have resisted Islam in any way they knew how - they were the West's allies in WW11. Now the hordes of Islam have terrorist bases in Bosnia and Kosovo - Bin Ladin himself was issued with a Bosnian Passport and is rumoured to visited there twice!!
While the past can never be undone there is a lot of hatred towards America and certainly NO GRATITUDE FROM MUSLIMS IN BOSNIA OR KOSOVO - the
Balkans smoulders under a Band Aid - bit like Iraq really...

hey lucan didn't those "attacks on innocent civilians" take place during the clinton administration--"that f***in' moron" gwb didn't take office until jan 2001..i could be wrong i've been drinkin some this afternoooon.

Re: invasion of Iraq by Iran.

The correct term would be infiltration. Iran is using covert methods at the present time.

Invasion: The act of invading, especially the entrance of an armed force into a territory to conquer. Usually implies the presence of regular armed forces.

Iran may get to that point. However, they aren't there yet.

"Your willingness to ascribe murderous intentions to guys who risk their pink butts to keep you at room temperature is despicable. Speaks volumes about where your head is."

so serbia was a threat to america?

lucan,
serbia was never a threat to america--they were however a threat to the enemy we currently face..it was pretty fucked up for us to attack serbia actually but gwb didn't anything to with that--that happened before he took office....you should be sayin' things like "that f***in' moron wjc"....

oops i meant to say "gwb didn't HAVE anything to do with that"--i also didn't mean to say the f word.sorry about that..

Give this a little time; Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will do more to harm the Islamic cause than help it. He's going to be right up there with al-Zarqawi as an idiot tactician because of his arrogance.Posted by Bill Carson

Care to expand on that Bill. Just how will Ahmadinejad do more harm to the Islamic Cause than help it?

Provide us with some insight and examples please.
Not hypotheticals. And I assume from your statement that you are an expert in the Islamic Mind.

clinton? yeah he screwed up big time with serbia, letting OBL escape and for not taking out the al queda network.

my argument isnt with the democrats, they are irrelevant to my argument. I'm not a democrat nor republican. GWB led a haphazard war in iraq for motives which are very sketchy and puzzling.

it wasn't just for the oil, it wasn't to get rid of a bad dictator and set up democracy, maybe it had something to do with china and the imperial motives of a full scale chinese invasion of the middle east to secure the oil fields for their growing economy and population.

maybe i'm wrong, maybe GWB really is a great leader and wants to see a free and democratic iraq. but what about north korea, a greater threat, saudi arabia and their petro dollar financing of their islamic world domination and mosque building in the western world. will the USA take out every nation which they don't agree with? so Iran's next huh? I see continual war, rather like a vision from George Orwell's 1984, is that what we all want?

i'm pretty sure he's not a really great leader--i just think he could do a little better if not for all of the critism--the guy can't get a break. besides the democrats have nothing better to offer except for leiberman and he'll never get nominated for president by those d****ebags.we need a non-hippy third party..

Morgane-

Your essential problem is that you only care about war crimes if they are committed by Americans. The Balkans have been a war zone for 800 years. Notice you don't care about the millions of lives lost to ISLAMIC expansion and jihad over the centuries. If you do, you have sure covered it up here. Islamic expansion has NOT been halted in the Balkans contrary to your statements--Albania is an Islamic nation and has Islamic terrorist networks to enlarge Islam in the region. Greece lost its territory on Cyprus to Islamic Turkey. Why aren't you bellyaching about the hundreds of thousands killed in the Balkans during the 1990s? Has it ever occurred to you that the Balkans resemble Afghanistan as much as Iraq? Has it ever occurred to you that the Muslims might have WON the Balkan war if it hadn't been for US intervention? What would have happened if that was the case? Where would you be now?

The Muslims are so angry with America because it THWARTED their ambitions in the Balkans--NOT because they were upset at the type of bombs America used (they wouldn't have cared what type they were anyway). Saudi Arabians would NOT like losing the Balkans one bit! This war did not advance the US cause with Saudi Arabia at all. Muslims are forbidden to befriend or show gratitude to the infidels. That is a point you have missed. Muslims hate ALL non-Muslims or haven't you noticed?

Not everyone in greater Yugoslavia wanted to live under the thumb of milosevic. Many were happy to get out and leave the fighting to nuts like you. Notice your breakaway republics don't hate America and aren't running back to join Serbia. Can you take a hint? They wanted out.

The loss of life in this region has been massive over the centuries and it HAS NOT BEEN America's fault. But you now believe you have something ON America and--- Hallelulah! We're going to nail the bastards!

Imagine if there had been NO intervention in the Balkans. The region could still be in a bloodbath. As in the case of Imperial Japan and Germany in WW2, the bombing may have pushed the area to a greater peace-- at least temporarily-- that would appear to be the case. "Smoldering" beats a bloodbath anyday. But if there HAD been a bloodbath YOU would probably have been the first to bitch that the Americans let the Muslims obliterate Yugoslavia! Yugoslavia has NEVER been strong since 1776, not really. It is far too conflicted to achieve the stength you think it could have. Really, there is no attraction in Yugoslavia for America I am sorry to say. The Balkans have very little relevance to the world. And if the Muslims overran you as they have in the past you would hate us for THAT too!!

p.s.--

Has it ever occurred to you that some people of Kosovo ACTUALLY WELCOME foreign investment in their territory in the mining sector? With income and jobs the region could possibly move towards a more prosperous and stable future? Investment in mining is a two way street. Yes America and the west benefit but so too do the locals. Ask them. Those involved will tell you they are at least somewhat better than they were before the mines.
Those oil pipelines could have benefited Yugoslavia too I might add. Some of your countrymen may have actually wanted these developments even if you did not.

No Morgane. America and the West are NOT cynical. YOU ARE. It must be what 800 years of jihad does to person.

Morgane:

Your failure to absorb the facts concerning depleted uranium which more than one of us has attempted to point out to you is an example of a political agenda which has assumed the status of a holy doctrine. A religion. Like Islam.

When confronted with facts which are contradictory to your "religion" you simply ignore them and revert to reciting soothing, affirming verses from your "quran". In this case it is the tired old mantra from the radical left concerning the evil American corporation and its murderous tool, the U.S. military. The difference between you and most of us is our intellectual ablility to absorb knowlege and make rational judgements based on fact.

If I had been confronted (as you have been) with a clear set of facts which contradicted a point of view which I frequently expressed in a public forum, I would carefully evaluate the information and if the contradictory facts proved truthful, I would abandon my fasle perceptions for the truth. As simple as that. there is no morality in a falsehood.

When presented with cold, hard, objective facts concerning depleted uranium projectiles (in fact depleted uranium boat keels, dental fixtures, radiation shields, aircraft parts, etc.) and an extensive biliography of reputable official reports and sources supporting those facts, you seek emotional refuge in "independent observers and also Serbs who are trying to get perpetrators on stand in The Hague" and "islamic websites accusing the U.S. of warcrimes" The truth has no meaning for you. Only your emotional feelings.

Your failure to modify you positions and arguements based upon facts dooms you to intellectual midgethood. Seek the truth. Embrace truth. The truth will set you free.

Now, as for the outcome in the Balkans, I am amazed to state that I do not entirely disagree with you (evil american corporation crap excluded). I served as a fighter pilot in the balkans conflict and I came to believe we (the U.S. military) honorably served to do our impotent european allies' dirty work.

The Serbs can be murderous bastards (apologies to my Serbian Sister-In-Law who graduated from medical school in Yugoslavia) but I came to believe that the balkan muslims were pawns of the arabs and Bosnia and Kosovo a staging ground for jihad. The law of unintended consequences in spades. On top of it all, balkan muslims DO NOT take second place in any contest of soulless barbarity. I also agree that Kosovo is as much a part of Serbia (whats left of rump Yugoslavia) as New Jersey is a part of the U.S.. On top of it all, I must agree that the muslims are profoundly ungrateful a**holes.

Where we violently disagree is with regard to the motive for intervention. You say it was for corporate greed but I say, in fact I know, we did it because of the senseless slaughter of innocents by the Serbs. It was truly horrific. Stuff not seen since World War II. I saw a great deal of the senseless destruction from my cockpit. Even if the motive was because of your lunatic corporate greed theory (it was NOT), the ending of the torture and murder, even as a side effect, was just, taken by itself.

It was just the Serbs misfortune to have had the upper hand right about the time the oh, so sensitive europeans began to notice the wanton bloodshed on their very doorstep. I sincerely believe, based upon the zeitgeist, that if it had been the muslims doing the same thing at the same time, they would have been spanked the same way. It was an accident of a normally self-centered, apathetic and impotent europe temporarily waking up at just the right (wrong?)time. Europe inexplicably and temporarily took a moral stance, for once,and demanded NATO do something. Well, since european military is the mother of all oxymorons, NATO meant the United States. Europeans played a subsidiary role to the U.S. effort because that was all they were capable of, in spite of all their uncharacteristic chest-thumping.

Unfortunately for all concerned except islam, it was the serbs who we had to punish. A ruthless machiavelli would have simply sealed off the borders, turned his back, and waited for bloodthirsty serbia to tap him on the shoulder and say "its OK to turn around...problem solved...they are all dead." That is,essentially, what would have happened and, God help me, I think that would have made a simpler if not better world for my children. Not their children, but definitely for mine.

The Serbs of that fairly recent time posessed the cold, immoral ruthlessness developed over the centuries that allowed them to ultimately hold at bay the savage forces of jihad in a way that the civilized west today could not contemplate. I do believe that something akin to their determination, if not their midevil brutality, will be required to prevail against islam today.

Morgane, you get it part right but you allow your secular religion to intellectually cripple you. Abandon moonbat conspiracy theories if the facts do not support them and take a serious look at who the good guys are and choose sides.

The struggle against islam is just beginning again for western civilization and since the last time it took the islamist savages seriously, jihad has gotten about a five hundred or so year head start.

Like every Empire be it Byzantium, Britain or U.S today a trickle of soldiers and materials becomes a haemorrhage in fighting almost constant wars before bleeding slowly to death...
U.S has an enormous overseas debt and George Bush's plummeting ratings reflect this also the failure in a bloody war that seems to be going nowhere. Personally believe Iraq was a mistake which will go down in history as another Vietnam.
Certainly the Islamists will see U.S withdrawal
as VICTORY FOR THEM regardless if American soldiers go home tomorrow or in two year's time.
All of you must already know from reading Islam Online etc that Muslims 'make or reinvent facts and history' which their followers eagerly swallow as 'Allah's Truth.'
CHINA LOOMS LARGE ON THE HORIZON AS THE NEXT EMPIRE...And it is very large indeed - notice all world leaders including Bush and my own country's Helen Clarke only make a 'squeak' about Human Rights for fear that the Chinese Dragon might turn on them. Economically every country - my own foolish leader has done so - who signs a Free Trade Agreement with China has just committed Economic hari kari. No country can
compete pricewise with this Giant who pays its workers such low wages : of course Chinese prisoners work for free and some have their organs removed and sold for 'greater good of the state.'
Few Jihadis are happy to get a Chinese Jihad Assignment. Chinese rulers are absolutely ruthless when it comes to crushing a wannabe Caliphate in ways we can only fantasize about.
I would back the Han Chinese any day against Islam as Winners.
By the time America wakes up to Chinese Reality,
its weakness will stop it going in the usual style 'with guns blazing.' There is no way America can take on China : now or ever. China can afford to lose millions in a nuclear attack unlike U.S. We can only hope that the citizens of
China opt for Democracy but don't hold your breath...

Thw6kds
Do acknowlege your posts. Disagree about 'corporates' though. This is a democratic forum and if it makes us think, mentally sharpen our wits and pens, this is very positive. Only by pondering what lies behind propaganda and often biased news media can we discover the Truth which is often neither black or white but comes in many shades of grey.
Regards

Morgane,

Mining laws are being revised in a number of places like Kosovo to encourage direct foreign investment in the mining sector. Invariably the push comes from inside the country to attract foreign investment.

If a country want's to control mineral resources, they can do so accross the board or on a mineral specific basis. For example, China protects REEs and Turkey protects Boron, but both have policies on other minerals that encourage wholly-owned foreign assets.

To describe foreign mining investment as some kind of land grab really doesn't have much basis in reality.

l say patience in Iraq, let a new democratic government get elected, it will be a domino effect.. . Iran,Syria, and Saudia Arabia next. why do you think that OBL was behind getting out Americans, (west) out of Middle East, as it will destroy the cult of Islam! some others think we can destroy through stopping immigration from middle east, blah blah.... Bush is smartest one around in DC.. you destroy the enemy from within! yes Democracy will do them in...will take many steps...

Morgane:

This is getting to be fun..you are turning out to be a regular blogosphere punching bag.

Now your hope for the death of America is at the hands of Communist China! Ha! You say:

"There is no way America can take on China : now or ever. China can afford to lose millions in a nuclear attack unlike U.S. We can only hope that the citizens of
China opt for Democracy but don't hold your breath..."

What a pathetic cowardly wretch you are. Substitute "Hitler's Fortress Europe", "The mighty Japanese empire" or "The Communist Soviet Union" for China in your little screed and reveal yourself for the defeatest, submissive dhimmi inferior you see in the mirror.

The very notion that the United States desires to "take on" red china in a nuclear showdown is the fantasy of a frustrated, profoundly ignorant, America-hating, pseudo-intellectual.

Of course nobody wants a nuclear showdown. The truth is (there is that word again, morgane), unlike New Zealand, we could defend ourselves if we had to. Your vision of the Chinese hype-power is a bit premature. China has great economic and military potential but it is still a backward, third world nation. The postcards from Shanhai can be deceiving.

At the present time the world's only superpower could indeed take on red china and if China chooses to attempt the annexation of Taiwan by military force, that capability will be demonstrated to you. Even you must admit that there is no rational reason for China to not invade Taiwan yesterday other than it has contemplated and measured the possible consequences and deemed the bargain unfavorable.

If New Zealand wants to submit to your new "imaginary friend", communist China, no problem here. Enjoy. In the mean time, who protects you from your enemies? Not New Zealand.

If your "imaginary friend" China wanted your tiny little patch of Pacific real estate tomorrow, New Zealand does not posesses anything, diplomatic or military, that could prevent China from simply sailing up and planting the big red flag. Nothing, that is except the power of your evil genetic and cultural cousins, the Great Satan. The same goes for islam. If Pakistan wanted New Zealand and was serious about it....it could take it! With one islmic fundamentalist arm tied behind its back!!

In a previous post I described the muslims of the balkans as ungrateful a**holes. That is a mistake I will not make when refering to some apparent residents of New Zealand as ungrateful ASSHOLES.

George Santayana's dictum about the lessons of history, though so often repeated as to have become a chiche, is no less true. For all its faults, the United States, standing at this moment in time astride the world, a military and economic colossus, is all that stands between Morgane and dhimmi submission. Either an apparently reluctant submission to islam or what seems to be an almost eager voluntary submission to the next great power of the world, the future of mankind, its last great hope....Communist China! (better get used to outdoor toilets, morgane!).

You attribute no strength to morality. Many tyrants have made that mistake and paid the consequences. You feel so comfortable rhetorically "bearding" the Great Satan, America, in a way which you would never contemplate attempting to do to your "imaginary friend" red China. You fear China and like some twisted victim of the stockholm syndrome, you curry their favor in the hope that they will "eat you last".

Is that because you do not fear America. Why not? Have we not been evil enough to earn your fear? Are we not enough of a threat to world peace to terrify you into silence? Do you not believe that a nation as murderous and territorially voracious as Amerika could annex your ass along with all the beatiful natural landscape you live in and force you to listen to country-western music and play baseball? ...OF COURSE NOT!!! In spite of your muddled world view, morgane, you know in your heart that Amerika does not threaten you.

What pisses me off is that me and my children and probably my children's children and generations of Americans to come will be forced to bear the burden of protecting New Zealand while people like you sit on the sidelines, toss rotten fruit and root for the enemy.

If you think islam is such a damned threat..what the hell are you going to do about it? Go run to CHINA? Be my guest comrade. How dysfunctional. You may want to consult with some of your anglo saxon countrymen first.

You and people and nations like yours are the geopolitical equivalents of spoiled, rebellious adolescents. Why you have chosen the United States of America as your surrogate parent and consequently, the focus of your infantile angst defies logical explanation. We sure as hell don't want that role. We are not your Daddy but spoiled brats that you are, you insist upon treating us like one. Perhaps the old "because we can" best explains it. Geopolitics and the dynamics of nation-states meets Sigmun Freud. Go figure.

THw6kds -- enjoyed your posts very much. Thank you.

Morgane

Believe it or not, I do not wish to offend. Just caught up in the Hyde Park, standing on a soapbox syndrome. I do truly believe what I write, though
Regards, THw6kds

THw6kds
Phew! Hope you feel better after that rant...And to think I was politely acknowleging your posts.
You obviously didn't read my post on China correctly. We are on the same side, you know.
I am merely pointing out what others have noticed
about the increasing strength of China - is that a crime? PLEASE READ CAREFULLY BEFORE PUTTING A THUMB ON THE BOMB BUTTON.It is a sign of maturity when people can laugh at themselves and
shrug off insults as I do with yours. Mind you, a Kiwi bloke might want to punch you never mind by Blogosphere!
Regards

Morgane-"Mind you, a Kiwi bloke might want to punch you never mind by Blogosphere!"-

Thats the spirit! Show some backbone! You can do it. Stand on your hind legs, shrug off insults, and swing away! See, its not so hard. The more you do it the better you like it! Now all we have to do is work on your target identification skills.

Getting in "geopolitical Daddy's" face won't help! He's no threat. How 'bout having a go at those those muslims and chinese? Yeah, could be risky but its that or dhimmi status sooner or later, for sure.

Don't worry about the U.S. We got that hind leg standing thing down pat a long time ago and got really good at it since 9/11. Allah's gonna run out of virgins soon and Haji will lose interest, go back to playing with himself and leave all of us alone for a while.

"GWB you f#####g moron!!! iran was a pussy cat before you decided to invade it=raq, now you have personally created a f@@@@@g monster! iran is responsible for much of the terror activities in iraq, sponsoring the terror in iraq and posssibly harbouring OBL. ." quote..

Iran has been cooking the science project for some time now, perhaps to use as revenge against Iraq. The kitty was growing up and is getting the claws ready. Note Iraq was held under U.N. watch
from most large arms programs, so a quick strike would be all it would of taken for Iraq's end. Now it will be harder to do so. This will also be harder with each day that goes by...

also, Great letter post Bill_Carson !

Islofob IS-1:

Thanks, just trying to keep it real...

THW6kds
Now then 'Big Daddy'
Don't you go ahootin' and hollering at lil ol' me
through the Blogosphere! My country may be small with only 4 million people but we have the back up of 33 million sheep - so don't try shagging around with us, Yankee. Also we have the MEN IN BLACK [No, not Jihadis] our notorious Rugby players with thighs to rival the biggest Mc Chicken burgers. We know we pissed you off by not allowing your Nuclear ships in our waters but that is no excuse to badmouth Kiwis. UNDERSTAND. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED...
Regards

Wow Bill!

What an awesome post! I sure came to this party late. You guys look like you've been having lots of fun!

'Only one thing to add. My ex-husband was a navigator on the AC-130 gunships back in the early 80's. His squadron, the 16th SOS, was the one that liberated Grenada. I remember one of our good friends who was the AC, (aircraft commander,) took out, I think it was a TIME magazine, and while downing a generous glass of Wild Turkey, proceeded to point to all the different pictures of buildings that he and his guys had blown up. "I shot that one, and that one, and that one," he said, with glee. You wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of one of those babies.

I remember there were three different sizes of shells that were shot out of that gunship, the largest being about 14" long and about 3" in diameter. We all had empty shells displayed in our living rooms or family rooms back then. You know, flying squadron status symbol. They are really scary!!

I remember that weekend, right before Grenada was liberated. It was when the barracks in Beirut were blown up. I specifically remember it because I was in the hospital having my first child and everytime she needed to eat I watched CNN. Then two days later the guys were just gone. So this Islamic mess has been going on for a long time. (My daughter is 22.)

Anyway, thank you for the letter. It's great to know what's going on.

Bill_Carson: "OBL made the tactical mistake of escalating the war before the muslim world was in a position to win ... taqiyya and kitman were the winning strategy. Everyone would have slept right through until the end of the 4th quarter when it was too late."

Well said.

Without the Iraq experience, the U.S. would still be asleep, willfully ignorant of the real threat facing civilization, yearning for the pre-9/11 days.

After we leave, the Muslims will probably make a ghoulish mess of Iraq, as is their innate ideological propensity. So what.

A lot of good has come out of Iraq:

First and foremost, Islam has been exposed for what it is, spawning an intellectual awakening, relevant (finally) discussion of the real threat, and an explosion of expositive writing such as JW/DW and countless non-PC books.

Second, the U.S. has gained a treasure trove of intelligence about the inner workings and methods of the Islamic international conspiracy against civilization, and is developing and battle testing new methods and technologies for rooting out and defeating Islamist "insurgencies."

Third, the military is growing a new crop of informed and battle tested leaders who will be needed to carry on the fight in this century.

Defeat of Islamic ideology will take at least a generation. To develop the strength to persevere and win, we have to stay relentlessly on the offensive, both in the military domain and in the ideological intellectual domain. Troops sitting "on alert" in their garrisons are not going to protect anybody. Going back to intellectual sleep is not going to make the problem go away. We have to keep moving the football.

Stendec you have a most thoughtful post! so many like to blame everything one Pres.George Bush, thinking he made it worse?? they forget that most can be blamed on the x-president with the handy hammer..the peanunt president Carter! he threw the Shah out and allowed the most powerful evil imman back into Iran.. Khomemini(cant spell his name) and this sparked the whole terrorist islamic movement forward! GWB is the only one who has tried to do something about the problem.. it is difficult with PC climiate in DC, he is trying clean out the UN and StateDepartment.. it is frustrating when you see some people on this web. , left wing media all agree with the terrorist, blaming Bush for making it worse
and wanting them out of Iraq! we need some patience
to destroy this cult!!

: ". . .we need some patience
to destroy this cult!!"

Exactly. Iraq is one battle in a long war.

In fighting a war, one has to choose the time and place to fight the battles. It is better for us to choose the time and place than letting the enemy do it.

The timing is often being driven by U.S. politics. Because the U.S. president is not an emperor, a lot of what President Bush does is conditioned on elections. He cannot make bold moves, if he thinks doing so will bring back the Carter and Clinton mentality to power. He has to lay the foundation for each move, such as making speeches, pleading his case to the U.N., and making other diplomatic maneuvers. The ultimate timing of a strategic military move sadly depends on the next election date. President Bush has played that chess game pretty well, I should say, though he seems to be foundering at the moment. Until the left comes to understand that Islam is a threat to them as much as to the right, then the President will be always so constrained. (The left are serving as a fifth column for the Islamists who wish to enslave them. How ironic.)

As far as place, Iraq is located right in the heart of the enemy's territory, which makes finding the jihadists easy. Instead of hunting them down one by one in all corners of the globe, we just wait for them to come to us. Pretty economical use of force, I should say (one web site called this approach the "roach motel" strategy). The desert climate, though ferociously hot and dusty, is good for providing air cover and surveillance. The land is wide open, so the bad guys have to expose themselves in order to mount an attack on our units. Advantage for us.

Mistakes have certainly been made in the conduct of the war in Iraq. But that is the nature of any human enterprise. No war in American history has gone without terrible mistakes. For perspective on that, I recommend reading Victor Davis Hanson, a military historian, at his victorhanson.com web site or in his many books.

President Bush has certainly made mistakes. The worst, I think, are his public statements about a "few extremists hijacking a peaceful religion." That is a terrible and widely believed misconception of the threat of Islam, and if anything, the Commander in Chief needs to understand the threat. Those public statements play into the hands of the foreign jihadists, reinforcing their self-image of cultural superiority, reinforcing their sense of entitlement to unconditioned respect, and giving cover to the Islamic subversives (so-called moderates)here at home.

That false perception about Islam is what JW/DW seeks to correct. President Bush has done more than anyone on earth to take the war to the enemy. He could be much more effective if he fully understood the message of JW/DW.

For my part, I am sending a copy of Robert's Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam to everyone I know, and a few I don't know. I would send a personal copy to President Bush if I thought it would get to him. On reflecting upon what I have just written, I must might try that, too.

From all the pile of shit that you guys post on this site, I will only comment a sample:

"The Serbs of that fairly recent time posessed the cold, immoral ruthlessness developed over the centuries that allowed them to ultimately hold at bay the savage forces of jihad in a way that the civilized west today could not contemplate. I do believe that something akin to their determination, if not their midevil brutality, will be required to prevail against islam today"

So you believe that genocide will be required to fight Islam. I do not see in which way you guys are better than bin laden. If you could explain me, it would be appreciated.

"Muslims are forbidden to befriend or show gratitude to the infidels. That is a point you have missed. Muslims hate ALL non-Muslims or haven't you noticed?"

Wow, then I guess that all the muslims I have known were pretty messed up.

"fight Islam intelectually and militarly"

Militarly? But my poor american friend... you are not able to deal with Irak, your crimes cause more and more muslims join bin laden and his trash, you will withdraw from there soon... what kind of military victory will you achieve?

Intelectually? I do not understand you there. You mean, make muslims abandon their religion? Do you really think that a country such as America, responsible of hundreds more murders of innocents than terrorists, with a society as fucked up as yours and his armed forces committing as much human rights violations than saddam did will convince muslims to abandon the central element of their lives, their religion? Tell me, what kind of arguments would you use to convince them?

Whoa, Ispanan,

Expletives in the first sentence! Why are you so angry, my poor Islamic friend? Did we hit a nerve or what?

hey Ispana, we will destroy the cult of islam through "Democracy"! l am Canadian, and will stand with my fellow American brothers and sisters! until you have found a country that has freed more millions of people on this earth in any time frame, you have no morale authority to condemm the U.S.! so what ever country you expouse from, tell us one that has offered so much to so many!!

Ispanan says:
-"Militarly? But my poor american friend... you are not able to deal with Irak, your crimes cause more and more muslims join bin laden and his trash, you will withdraw from there soon... what kind of military victory will you achieve?"-

Hey, Haji, if you ever had any real American friends, you sure as hell don't have any since 9/11, unless you want to count those like the pathetic, dhimmi fool Cyndi Sheehan and her friends...but isn't she some kind of unclean, female infidel descendant of pigs and donkeys according to God's prophet? I guess you take your friends where you can find them. In her case, I have to admit I agree with Mohammed's assessment. You can have her and anyone like her for a friend. America won't.

Yours is a clear example of primitive, delusional islamist fantasy. Intellectually primitive muslim fanatics cannot accept that all in the west are not submissive dhimmi cowards. It goes against what Allah, through his prophet, has told them. Mohammed cannot lie!!! What about the virgins???

Ignorant muslim killers, eavesdropping from their hiding places on free and open debate among the infidels, hear only what they want to hear. They desperately cling to that which gives them comfort and disregard the obvious truth. They are all "Baghdad Bobs" and thier fate is sealed.

In a desperate and futile attempt to warm themselves with the cold, dead ashes of their "vietnam/lebanon/somalia" wet dream, Islam's "holy warriors" (murderers of children, and suicidal seekers of heavenly poontang in that whorehouse of the afterlife they call paradise) have to ignore the ever-growing mountains of their own rotting corpses, (compliments of the American Crusaders) which they must, with ever increasing difficulty, surmount on the way to their next suicide bombing of a soft drink stand, wedding party or gathering of little school children.

Go ahead, my poor muslim, cling to your backward fantasies.

By the way, Haj, help me out here. Why the hell is it that most of the worlds' billion or more muslims live in violent, shit-hole, turd-pile, disease infested hell holes and so damned many of them want to move to my country??

Ispanan: "Tell me, what kind of arguments would you use to convince them?"

The truth will destroy Islam. When the full unexpurgated text of the Koran becomes common knowlege, complete with its calls to destroy and/or subjugate "the other," its hateful intolerance for other religions, its abuse of women, its explicit anti-semitism, and its glorification of violence in exchange for endless carnal pleasure in the afterlife, the world will unite against it.

When the truth is relearned about the barbarous Islamic history, with the merciless slaughter and subjugation of peaceful cultures worldwide, the looting, pillage, and rape of same, then civilization will rise up against it.

When the truth is relearned about the utter failure of of Islam ever to create anything of value--no art, no science, no philosophy--and instead embracing the goal of destroying all that which came before, then civilization will recognize the pure satanic evil that is the death cult called Islam.

Civilization will shun Islam. Civilization will properly ridicule Islam. Civilization will broadcast these truths worldwide, in a thousand ways, and the 1.2 billion current prisoners of Islamic brainwashing will eventually recognise, as the Communists did before them, that their pitiful degradation and stunted development was, and is, directly caused by Islam itself. They will realize they have been worshipping a false god, and have been following the life example of a lying, selfish lunatic.

You sum it up rather nicely, Stendec

Ispanan: "Tell me, what kind of arguments would you use to convince them?"

Well, since you ask... the plan is to set up a bunch of Jewish schools throughout the ME, and with the superior education, common sense will take over and do the rest.