Former Canadian Minister Of Defence Asks Canadian Parliament To Hold Hearings On Relations With Alien "ET" Civilizations

This could be simply a ga-ga individual. Or, it could be one more expression, simply in its most extreme form, of the desire by many Western leaders to avoid seeing the obvious, or at least studying what they so obviously need to study, for fear of what they might find out about, not a "war of civilizations" (the Muslim term, and for that matter a Huntingtonesque phrase as well, for it implies some kind of reciprocal hostilty among the "Catholic," the "Orthodox, the "Sinic, " the "Hindu" and the "Islamic" when, in fact, the only war that is really being conducted -- outside of wars for trade akin simply to the familiar Great-Power rivalries of the past -- is that of Islam against not the West, but against the entire Non-Muslim Rest.

For "intergalactic war" read "inter-civilizational war."

The varieties of craziness are many. This Exhibit A of craziness is clear. But nearly as crazy are some of the stated views of those in Europe trying to explain way, interpret away, Muslim hostility and Muslim ambitions and the utter impossibility of a soi-disant "European" Islam ever leavig equal living space to the indigenous non-Muslims,their laws, customs, and manners.

Whole lot of craziness going on.

I may be off-base here, but it seems to be a good thing that Canada is focusing it's energy on nonsense like an ET/intergalactic war. It can't be any worse than the high tax, hard leftist, pro-Islam and anti-American foolishness they usually indulge in.

I have Canadian friends and they are embarassed at how unrealistic the government is - and has been - regarding Islamic terror.

Canadian Defense Minister...HA HA HA HA HA HA..help me out here!

Even today Canada has plenty of good men with backbones of steel (they fought as volunteers in the United States military in Vietnam by the thousands and gave their lives as Canadian servicemen in Afghanistan) but not enough to have any influence on Canada's pompous, self-riteous, and rapidly declining culture.

Canada's feminized, PC military is, sadly, not even a pimple on the butt of a viable, stand alone fighting force. In truth, beyond a policy of appeasement, contemptuous and ungrateful Canada depends, ultimately, on the United States as insurance against attack.

Can it really be a surprise that appeasement of Intergalactic Alien Invaders would be Canada's first strategy? Mr. Hellyer, a distinguished former Canadian Defense Minister..HA HA HA HA HA HA...wait...I can't stop..wait....OK, I'm OK now..oxymorons really amuse me..Mr. Hellyer has now gone on record as identifying the United States as the sinister provocateur in the current encounter with intergalactic beings.

The superior intellect of our galactic visitors will now perceive the enlightened Canadian nation as an ally against the ignorant cowboys of the U.S., thereby insuring that Canada will get the anti-protoplasmic disgronification ray treatment last of all nations on the earth! Brilliant.

Too bad the new Canadian "Exopolitical" strategy is modeled after its geopolitcal response to muslim islamofascism today.

Wait, we may need this. Let's first get on with the job of kicking the islamofascists off the planet and then these exodiplomats can engage them in trade talks.

this guy is as crazy as george w bush! what next, OBL is trying to build a death star?

islam is an alien race. Ack! ack! Don't run! We come in peace!

I read a lot about UFO's about 8 years ago, having seen something that I could not explain, I focussed on a couple of people like Nick Pope, who was asked to investigate them by the UK MOD. Having read that book and a few others, such as Beyond Top Secret and my own experience, I am in no doubt that they are as real as he says they are.

I have often wondered the affect on religions if ET was proved to exist. But anyway, I guess its like having the Jihad start in Europe, we will find out in due course.

Did not know we were in danger of an 'Intergalatic Attack!' As if there wasn't enough troubles on Planet Earth...

He's going to be so disappointed when he finds out how big galaxies are and how far out in the boondocks we are.

The 'intergalactic' war would go like this. The aliens capable of the incredible feat of traveling between galaxies show up at Earth. An alien thinks a command. A burst of energy the likes of which no human has ever seen (except the sun) vaporizes our planet. War over. We lose.

Why anyone traveling that far to check us out would do such a thing, I have no idea.

There is one very interesting true story about UFO's. Pilots who've chased (whatever) were given "do not shoot" orders. So he's not only crazy and ignorant of science, but wrong on the facts.

UFO fantasys and conspiracy theories abound. A lot of it is crazyness, but among the crazyness are some very sane people, educated, intelligent, articulate, who are looking at these subjects. This ranges from sightings, to abductions, to alien breeding programs, to something like 13 different types of aliens visiting Earth. Some helpful some not. Then there is the whole question of just who were the Majestic 12? And who are they now? What does the government know, and how long have they known it? Why dont they tell us? HMMM, I have read several books on the subject by Col Phill Corso US Army, Dr. John Mack, Dr.David Jacobs Bud Hopkins and others. I have heard numerous interviews on Coast to Coast AM radio, with individuals who claim all sorts of things...some are more credible than others. Several years ago I did a local midnight radio show with UFO stuff as a main topic. I got lots of calls from psychotic people with insomnia, and drunks who were seeing things.
What I am left with is that there 'is' something going on in the alien/ufo catagory, but I am not sure what it is....

I am guilty of being sucked in by this kind of thing myself in the past. Never again though.

Surfing the net there are innumerable sites exploring every whacky thing one can imagine.
I'm beginning to think there might be a sinister motive behind much of this stuff.

Check out Rense.com or any article by John Kaminski (just two examples among hundreds) and it will likely creep you out.
What is the real agenda of people like this with their stories of lizard royalty, Et's, U.S. government behind 911, U.S. government planning New World Order, Israel behind Port Arthur massacre and Bali bombings...the list just goes on and on.

These kind of stories sure do muddy the water and make identifying real threats that much harder for the average person.
Could there be a deliberate intent to weaken western democracies from within by using one of it's strengths against itself, ie. freedom of speech?

And who is behind it?

P.S....I forgot to mention in above...I have seen a triangular craft myself. At night... Huge, a perfect triange...a white light at the top two at bottom...the whole thing moved slowly across the clear night sky. The lights looked like the background stars and I would not have noticed them had they not been moving.
How do I know who was flying it?...Iranians maybe...

Bangladesh Acid Attacks Soar. UFO Sightings Decline Sharply.
by Nkrumah Steward, creator of 8BM.com
[Definately the funniest site on the internet]

Ever since I saw a UFO when I was 15 I have been looking forward to the day when Extraterrestrials will feel comfortable meeting with mainstream America. However I fear that there is an issue concerning the inhumanity of the human species that has been putting this all on hold.

Let's just be honest for a second shall we?

It is a damn good thing that E.T. got left behind in a quiet suburban Northern California neighborhood, because if his buddies would have left E.T behind on accident in some place like Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, or Uganda don't doubt for a second that little big headed bastard's head would still be planted on a fucking Totem pole out in front of someone's cave right to this day.
In America we are often perplexed as to how things like Millie Vanilli and Professional Wrestling become cultural phenomenon here in the states. I am starting to realize that while we are asking ourselves "what were we thinking" when we look at our parachute pants and Duran Duran t-shirts, in other parts of the world they are asking themselves questions like "how did tossing acid in women's faces" and "carving little girl's clits off" become cultural phenomeons.
There has recently been an almost complete breakdown in law and order in Bangladesh. As a result there were 388 acid attacks in Bangladesh last year.

That is up 50% from the previous year.

The vast majority of them were carried out against women fleeing arranged marriages but in some of the cases the victims were men and even children.
Maybe I am being a little selfish here but I feel I have a joyride coming to me in an alien mother ship being held up because some punk ass heartbroken Bangladeshi can't cope with being rejected by a chick.
Since this new government has taken control in Bangladesh they have created special courts to specifically deal with acid violence. In addition to the new courts they have also passed special laws to prohibit the sale of acid to unauthorized people. Once again I am going to let my ignorance is show. Who exactly has legitimate reasons to buy acid? Where the f[***] do you even go to buy acid? What line of work has "must be experienced in safely handling acid on a day to day basis" in the job description?
I better calm down this is starting to piss me off. I had my Starbuck outfit pressed and cleaned and everything.
Once we address this acid problem all we have to do is get the people in Africa to quit cutting little girl's clits off and maybe the human race will have a chance of joining the intergalactic league of planets and I can get my tour.

UFO 'Spotted Hovering over Sacred Cliff' In India.
"raw" by Nkrumah Steward, creator of 8BM.com

Residents in Sri Lanka claim extraterrestrial aliens are visiting sacred Indian sites and tourist attractions that date back to the first century AD. in a glowing blue UFO.
They believe that this UFO has come millions of light-years away to Earth to visits ancient Indian sites so they can find "a key to the mysteries of the universe".
If they want answers then why the f[***] are they in India? There aren't any answers in India.
F[***], India is the question.
The only mystery an alien civilization could learn in India is how you can get to the point where you can out populate anything God throws at you.
Indian UFO enthusiasts aren't any closer to the truth than the mystics are. They are claiming that aliens are probably studying technology Ancient Indians used to construct ancient buildings.
Please.
Get over yourselves. Do you really think an alien that has created his own worm hole hasn't seen a stone shovel before?
If they can master traveling at light speed or bending time and space in order to visit distance galaxies, I seriously doubt they are going to be as fascinated with the technique of using cow shit to water proof your huts as you think they will be.
Gamini Obeysekara, a TV reporter who works for the government channel Rupavahini, said: "It took three days for me to get this strange blue light on video tape. It seemed to heading towards the sacred areas."
I don't know about you but it is pretty clear to me that the Monkey man [a reference to an earlier story about an ape like being attacking people in India] must've pulled a ET/MacGyver with a clothes hanger, a bubblegum wrapper, and a "Speak and Spell".
The details of what he told them about India during his communication is neither here nor there.
The point is you see they came back to get him.

http://www.8bm.com/

They are out there.

But I suspect most of those who are aware We exist, are keeping their distance.

Mike...the one thing I discovered involving myself in conspirasy theories, is that they are not all theories. Some of them are actualities.
The trick is to discriminate the real from the unreal...Viveka Chudanami ( I may have misspelled that, for you perfectionists)...the Crest Jewel of discrimination...or how to tell BS from the truth. The clever have lots of tricks...their tricks work...the way to get over being tricked is to get over being tricked. By the process of elimination and concentration, you can get to the facts of the matter. "Limitation is the sourse of power", or so says the wise man. That means eliminating whats not pertinent to the goal. If you want the power of truth, you have to 'eliminate' the untruthful. In other words, get hep to the BS...go for 'CLARITY'. The last thing the 'clever' want is for you to be clear.
Clarity and truth will defeat all clever BS'ers,
UFO'ers, Islamists or NWO types who are disengenuous....

"Several years ago I did a local midnight radio show with UFO stuff as a main topic. I got lots of calls from psychotic people with insomnia, and drunks who were seeing things."

LOL!

Former Canadian Minister Of Defence Asks Canadian Parliament To Hold Hearings On Relations With Alien "ET" Civilizations.

He's not that crazy, I mean, he never sent Canadian troops to Iraq did he?

Aliens do exist but we are not ready to meet them yet. If Islam becomes dominant in this world, we'll never be ready.

duh_sawmi, I think I'll stick with a little principle called Occam's Razor, ie.

Given two equally predictive theories, choose the simpler.

Thanks to Paul Hellyer for telling the truth;
now we know that George Bush isn't satisfied with merely dominating Earth, he wants to rule the universe as well.

Paging Flash Gordon.

Unfortunately this story has taken on a life of its own. Hellyer is a semi-nutcase who had his day in the sun 40 years ago. As defense minister, he was responsible for the unification of the air force, navy and army into a unified force with a common uniform. While co-ordination between forces is an important goal, Hellyer destroyed the morale of the Royal Canadian Navy, Royal canadian Airforce and the Royal canadian Army. Jack Granatstein, a well know and respected historian of Canada's forces deemed Hellyer as being one of the key causes of the destruction of Canada's armed services.

Wikipedia has a pretty good take on Hellyer - suffice to say he is a headcase and a complete flake who has tried flitting from party to party with various interuptions to form his own political organizations. Most Canadians, myself included, didn't even know he was still alive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hellyer

Earth is the Serengeti of the Galaxy.

Star chart around the solar system has a huge red circle: "Restricted Zone only certified scientists and families accompanied by Docents permitted beyond this point (Pluto). Semi sentient species infected by belief, prone to violence and killing the other. Belief is highly contagious".

When aliens want to teach their children an object lesson on how not to behave, they bring them to the galactic sergenti.

Based on behavior of the species, it would seem that some advanced civilization ended an interplanetary conflict by exiling it's mental and emotional defectives (psychopathic, superstitious, violent) to this planet, and keep us under observation as a science project.

hey he can join the lunatic fringe of the Democratic party of Kerry,swimmer-Kennedy, Moore, Hollywood actors ie George Clooney, Matt Damon,etc... l am Canadian and know that you have as many nuts south of the border!
l will borrow Rush's new sticker... Still voting Liberal...are you Stuck on Stupid!!! A proud voting Cdn Concervative, who is proud to have the U.S as a great neigbour!!

Thanks nariz! We always wondered where communists came from.

Quoth the former Defence Minister: "UFOs, are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head."

This is true as far as it goes. If it's in the sky, and no one knows what it is, it's a UFO: Unidentified Flying Object.

That, of course, is not the same as claiming that alien spacecraft are real. The argument for claiming that a UFO is from another world is negative: it is claimed that we can't explain the UFO in terms of earthly phenomena. But we don't know all possible earthly phenomena!

Comets were once UFOs; we didn't know what they were, we thought they were some preternatural thing, and their appearance was considered a portent of doom. Now we know what comets are, and we don't fear their appearance anymore.

There is the further complication that we don't know everything the US military is up to. Is it so surprising that so many UFO sightings are around Area 51? What, after all, would the Air Force want with a secret base? The sightings around Area 51 may be in part because the True Believers expect to see UFOs and so report every craft that takes off from Area 51 as a UFO; they may also be because the Air Force is indeed prototyping exotic aircraft there. "Aurora" may indeed exist; it would be a known object to the Air Force, but a UFO to the rest of us. None of this means that any Grays or other E.T.s are holed up in Area 51.

duh-swami--the white lights you saw in triangular formation were probably Navy satellites--Linda Howe, Earth Files--saw the same myself and spooked me out for awhile

Greetings from the big giant head!

Marijuana is legal in Canada, isn't it? Must be what the former Minister of Defense was smoking, eh?

Mr. Hellyer must have bad insomnia and stayed up too late watching too many Startrek reruns. I wonder if he wears pointed ear extensions while he watches.

This wacko claim by a Canadian about a war between the U.S. and aliens doesnt suprise me, considering how grossly misinformed people are up here about geopolitics and international relations...

I have spoken to many up here in Canada about the U.S and its role in the world, and the rabid antiamericanism up here is not based on a rational analysis of U.S. policies in the world; rather, the pervasive antiamericanism reflects a infintile emotionalism and false sense of moral superiority, i.e., leftism. Here in Canada the lefts arguments on everything from welfare to defense to foreign policy comes right from the Michael Moore school of politics and is utterly vacuous.

Considering this, is it any suprise some wacko comes out with this claim about aliens? Funny thing is many will believe it, and those who do will invariably be lefties.

We desperately need a conservative revival here!!!!

phil

People throughout the centuries have claimed to have seen UFO’s. Perhaps more startling, a surprising number more recently have claimed to have been abducted by aliens and subjected, among other things, to bizarre sexual examinations. In fact abduction stories seem to have sex as one of their repeated themes.

Are UFO’s for real? If they are what are they and where do they come from? Some would say they are craft carrying visitors from planets circling other suns. But is it possible for a spacecraft to travel from the vicinity of even the nearest star, which is 4 light years away? Could they travel at near the speed of light, something they would need to do if they were to avoid multi-generational travel times. If they could, how long would it take them to get to that speed? Hitting a speck of inter-stellar dust on the journey would be lethal to a spacecraft travelling at speeds approaching the speed of light so how would it be protected from such a high risk and highly likely collision?

And…how would they slow down to enter earth’s atmosphere? We know what happened to the Space Shuttle Columbia on re-entry after a heat resistant tile was damaged during launch. At earth orbit re-entry speeds of around Mach 25 – that is 18000 miles or 29000 kilometres a hour – the heat build up from atmospheric friction against the Space Shuttle reaches up to 3000 degrees Fahrenheit. The re-entry temperatures for a Apollo Command Module returning from a moon expedition reached 5 to 6000 degrees F at the Mach 34 –25000 mile or 40000 kilometre an hour re-entry speed. As the Columbia disaster graphically illustrates, one tiny failure in the heat shield and you’re dead.

And then…if you’re coming in from outside earth orbit, for example from the moon or beyond, you have to hit an extremely small entry window to come down safely. If you come in too steeply you burn up because the friction is too great. If you’re too shallow, you skip on the atmosphere like a stone on water, and head off into deep space!

But then…UFO’s reputedly fly around in the earth’s atmosphere! So not only must visitors from distant stars be able overcome all the horrendous physical problems of travelling vast inter stellar distances, and getting through earth’s atmosphere safely after the required very high travel velocities, they then must be able to fly around in the atmosphere at will. The physical problems involved seem to me to be insurmountable. Of course some would wave a wand and say they utilise more advance technology than we do. I confess to being a sceptic.

Australian Gary Bates has authored what I consider to be an excellent a book entitled, ‘Alien Intrusion: UFO’s and the Evolution Connection’ in which he comprehensively addresses in a hard nosed way, the claims and counter claims regarding UFO’s.

Thanks nariz! We always wondered where communists came from. Posted by: Gary

Yes, and they also produced the likes of you.

Sincerely, Gary you need some mental health time.

Gary to answer your question ""We always wondered where communists came from."

I thought you were a Christian, and knew your Bible. According to the Bible communism is downright Christian (p.s. I'm selfish, not a communist, with me charity begins at home).

Communism in the Bible

Matt 19:21: 'Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.'

Acts 2:44-45

All the believers together had everything in common; they sold their possessions and their goods, and distributed among all in accordance with each one's need

Acts 4:32-35
The Believers Share Their Possessions

32All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had. 33With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all. 34There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.

Acts 5:1-11
Ananias and Sapphira

Sorry nariz, as Always you continue to read me completely wrong. But that's to be expected.

Funny. If the thinking of Jesus was so communistic, why do communists reject His Existence?

As a Canadian old enough to remember when Paul Hellyer was a cabinet minister (I believe it was actually under Lester Pearson and not P.E.T.), I have to say it's gotta be an extremely slow news day for anyone to report on what Hellyer has to say. He dropped out of politics many, many years ago and devoted most of his energies to commercial farming of ginseng in Canada. He also tried to found a polictical party of his own when it became obvious to the mainstream parties that he was a number of cards short of a deck. One thing I do remember among Hellyer's "accomplishments" while defence minister -- was to have all Canadian forces -- army, naval and air -- wear the same uniforms, khaki, wrecking what piddly amount of morale the Canadian military had in the post WW II years.