He said the same thing in August. "Islamist lawyer: Ireland could be targeted," from UPI, :
An Islamic fundamentalist lawyer has said Ireland is a "legitimate" target for a terrorist attack.Anjem Choudary, speaking at a debate Thursday at Dublin's Trinity College, claimed Ireland was open to attack because of the government's decision to allow U.S. troops to refuel at Shannon Airport, the Irish Independent reported Friday.
"If you are going to allow your country to be used to refuel a U.S. plane which is going on a bombing raid, what do you expect our reaction to be? This is not neutrality," he said.
"A U.S. pilot is no different from the Irish person who allows the plane to land. They are collaborators," said Choudary, who is under police surveillance in Britain.
Another Muslim extremist, Umran Javed, told the debate that although he did not see an attack on Ireland as likely, retaliation would come "swiftly" if Ireland increased its support for the United States....
Senior Irish police are studying Choudary's remarks to determine if they represent an incitement to hatred.
Study hard, fellows, but heavens to betsy, everyone knows that such remarks are not an "incitement to hatred." It's only an incitement to hatred when someone calls attention to them in the name of the defense of human rights against jihad terror. Got it?
Oh, c'mon. Everyone with a passing familiarity with Islamic theology knows everyone but a pious Muslim is a legitimate target. If said 'pious' Muslim slips up in some minor way, waste 'em. It's the religion of 'legitimate' targets.
Schools of martial arts teach philosophies which are less violent than Islam.
Robert
Do we actually know who people like Anjem Choudary, and Umran Javed are speaking for specifically? Certainly it is not the entire umma, is it a small group of radical muslims? sometimes when I say radical, I more than often am tempted to say fundamental Muslims.
One could say that just about any place on the planet that has an airport where American,British, Australian,,Etc. military aircraft land for whatever support can be considered a target.
Muslim Eurabian pressure.
If you dont believe in something, you will fall for anything.
I pay taxes, part of which goes to keep British troops in Iraq. Does that make me a target?
Ahmmm 7/7., of course I'm a target. What a silly question.
Try again. Muslims also pay taxes. Does that make mosques legitimate targets? Now that is a little bit more challenging for Anjem Choudhry. This guy I believe is from Bangladesh. I wonder what would happen if he and his family's status as British subjects is removed for waging war on the Crown, and they are all sent back to Bangladesh?
"Anjem Choudary, speaking at a debate Thursday at Dublin's Trinity College, claimed Ireland was open to attack because of the government's decision to allow U.S. troops to refuel at Shannon Airport, the Irish Independent reported Friday."
Well "Saints preserve us," you mean to tell Ireland that if they disallowed U.S. troops to refuel at Shannon -- that they would NOT be open to attack?
Aye laddie, may you rot in hell a half-hour before the devil knows your dead!
"heavens to betsy..."
-- from the comment by Robert above
I love that. Takes me back.
Beagle posted: Schools of martial arts teach philosophies which are less violent than Islam.
A regular at JW once posted -"Satanists are far less a problem then the RoP".
DP111
You & I both are targets for paying tax into a democracy.
I have entered into a letter debate with my local MP (Old Labour through & through) & I am trying to ask why the authorities are not using the benefits system to target Jihadi's. As it is well known that serious Jihadi's, particularly the British born ones, will not work to pay tax to an infidel state I think it is legitimate to use such methods - in the name of identifying & challenging them & maybe even thwarting their plans.
He just voted against the new terror legislation so I think you can guess how much effect I am having on him.
OT but AlBBCeera at every opportunity is trying to equate Britains fight with the IRA with the fight that we are in now with militant Islam.
The fact that Islam slaughtered more people in 2 hours on 9/11 than all that died throughout the whole Irish Republicanism campaign seems lost on them - let alone the fact that the IRA never used the Bible as justification. Their's was a territorial war confined to ambitions in Ireland - Islam has plans for the whole world.
Anjem Choudhry should have his citizenship revoked - makes you wonder just exactly what he would have to say or do to face that consequence.
I love Dublin - to think that this fine "British Citizen" has been allowed out there to threaten them is an outrage.
In fact Anarchists, whose defining ideology is to create mayhem with bomb, bullets and arson, are a far more moderate and peacable bunch then the RoP.
As an English Catholic, I can only quote the good old irish phrase,
GOD SAVE IRELAND
Hugh:
C'mon. Tell us. Who's Betsy?
Choudary made the very same threats live on Irish
National T.V Station R.T.E on several occasions,
with the ever present Khaleed Kelly by his side.
Kelly is Irelands most notorious convert, having
converted in a Saudi prison, his crime brewing
alcohol. Ireland is perhaps the most inept member
of the E.U, as they really are clueless concerning Islam, look to the situation concerning the radical Islamist Jihad Jaara, one of the most notorious terrorists from the Church of the Nativity fiasco, deported to Ireland and given absolute free reign throughout Europe. In Ireland there is no debate about Islam, it’s a peaceful religion full stop. It’s been reported widely in the media that there are over fifty active Al Qaeda members and a number of Palestinian terrorists currently active throughout Ireland, all are receiving generous benefits from the state. In Ireland we’re used to corrupt governments, it’s been that way my whole life, constant scandal. Recently our Police service the Garda Siochanna received a grant of thirty thousand euros from the E.U, it was a burkha grant, so the first female muslim Garda could wear her burhka. Ireland is well on it’s way to social chaos.
If ever there was a country where the tail could wag the dog it’s here.
albion
As far as I know, a person residing in Britain, and advocating or engaging in war against the UK, is waging war on Her Majesty and the Crown. The Crown thus has the right to remove its protection from this individual, and any who comport with him. The statues in Britain do not go back a thousand years for nothing. There was never any need to bring in new anti-terrorism legislation. We have it all. It is just the will to enforce that is lacking, and hence this charade in parliament. PM Blair now has the excuse to let him off the hook.
With Blair, ignore the resolute Churchill rhetoric- concentrate instead on his actions and the means he uses to wriggle out of any promises he may have made in a soundbite.
correction: The statutes in Britain do not go back a thousand years for nothing.
(a message to all the americans on the site) I have recently seen a load of messages saying how weak willed europe is and how it has no chance to survive the threat of Islam, and calls to abandon Europe and make a stand in America. I can only say this.
1200 years ago, the moors ( north africans) were rampaging across Spain. Churches were burnt, rape, pillaging and ethnic cleansing occuring across the peninsula. The tiny Christian Spanish army lost battle after battle, retreating to the very North of Spain. Their the final battle occured. the Christians gathered in their hundreds to make one last stand against the muslim invaders. Beyond them lay France, and the rest of Cristendom would be doomed if this battle was lost. The enemy came in their thousands, and the pitiful Spanish knights, outnumbered a hundred to one, fought. History does not recall how the Muslim army lost, but legends say that their was divine intervention. Whatever happened, the enemy died in their thousands, and from then on The Spanish knights began to win, and recapture spain.
A smilar event happened when the knights of st.John halted the Ottoman invasion at Malta, when they were also hideously outnumbered.
My point is my friends, that although the pathetic governments of Europe desperately try to hide it, there is great strength in the people of Europe. I would not give up on Europe yet my friends.
DP111
I am glad I am not the only one who thinks that Blair has been very clever over the new legislation.
The opposition, & his own awkward squad, have just given him a get out of jail free card for when the next atrocity happens.
I can see him now, all statesman like with his serious face on, standing at the despatch box just after the next suicide bombing in London pointing at his opponents on all sides around the chamber stating "you did this".
That will happen, I am sure. There has to be a reason why he deliberately took this to Parliament in full knowledge he was going to lose for the first time ever.
I hear you on the existing laws & their lack of implementation, but 90 days, with the Police going back to the High Court for a review every seven days to justify further detention, is in my view an important asset that the Security Services should have got.
As we cannot even give the Security Services what they have asked for, I do not see a time anytime soon when the likes of Choudary will have his citizenship revoked.
In Choudary's twisted view, the victim is always to blame. Whether carried out by Jihadists or a natural disaster, the victim brought it on themselves. Like the rapist who blames a victim for looking too good!
He issues these clarion calls paving the way for justifiable attacks.
Reap the whirlwind Choudary.
I really have to wonder about characters like Choudary making public announcements such as these. Does he really know anything or is he just some walking, talking self-aggrandizing personality disorder with a law degree? If he knows anything, and he's even halfway rational, is his purpose to lure whatever security/investigation resources away from potential perps?
waterdrago52:
"Heavens to Betsy" is what you might call an Idiom. It is simply an expression that is used when commenting on something that may be surprising, or of concern Etc. It apparently has no documented origin and as an idiom, it may be peculiar to America. Most Americans' probably heard their mother, or grandmother use at one time or another as an expression.
The Englishman:
I certainly hope that you are right. But their may have to be some butt kicking of that multiculteralists, politically correct crowd to get you all in gear. My hope is that the PC group may in fact kick their own butts.
Americans needle the French because of WW II mostly. But most Americans have the greatest regards for the valiant battles fought by the British military.
I did read about some of the history there. Some stories give the French a lot of credit under King Charles Martel for stopping the advance of the marauding muslim armies at the gates of France, thus began the 200 year war called "the Crusades" to push them back.
By the same logic embraced by Anjem Choudary, any country allowing free passage to Al-Quaeda operatives or their agents must expect to be attacked.
Another question, perhaps much the same as that already expressed by other posters but with slightly different emphasis: whom does Anjem Choudary speak for? If he is simply speculating out of concern for the Irish people, then he must cooperate fully with the police to prevent any Islamist outrages in Ireland. If he speaks for any organization who might perpetrate an attack, then he must be questioned immediately and constraints placed upon his civil liberties subject to review by the court system. If in spite of this a terrorist attack takes place in Ireland, Anjem Choudary must be held under suspicion of conspiracy and accessory.
What will it take for the PC western crowd to wake up to these losers... l would say to the Islamofacistis... you keep up the talk and we target Mecca, Medina.. you will have a memory of space to the east!
Englishman:
Well spoken. But how much of the youth of Europe knows of this history, let alone honors and cherishes it? It's a sad fact that human beings frequently don't know the good of something until it is lost.
Waterdragon52:
Ah thank Heavens (to Betsy?) for the internet. According to what I found, maybe the reference is to Betsy Ross, the Mother of all American flag makers. Or maybe it's "ol' Betsy," familiar name for the fronstiersman's squirrel rifle. But you knew this all the time and you just think that "Heavens to Betsy" sounds quaint. Me too.
(Heavens to Betsy) is simply an expression that is used when commenting on something that may be surprising, or of concern
Well I'll go t'foot of our stairs, as my granny used to say.
Chatillon:
Just kidding Hugh about his indeterminate age. No thoughts as to the origins of the expression, which I am old enough to recall from watching old movies.
I cannot speak to the authenticity of this commentary, and I still wonder if it was really published by this German CEO. It has been floating around in E mails-- Do any German commenters know whether this was actually published in DIE WELT?
Matthias Dapfner, Chief Executive of the huge German publisher Axel Springer AG, has written a blistering attack in DIE WELT, Germany's largest daily paper, against the timid reaction of Europe in the face of the Islamic threat. This is a must read by all Americans. History will certify its correctness.
EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE!
Commentary by Mathias Dapfner CEO, Axel Springer, AG
A few days ago Henry Broder wrote in Welt am Sonntag, "Europe - your family name is appeasement." It's a phrase you can't get out of your head because it's so terribly true.
Appeasement cost millions of Jews and non-Jews their lives as England and France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated too long before they noticed that Hitler had to be fought, not bound to toothless agreements.
Appeasement legitimized and stabilized Communism in the Soviet Union, then East Germany, then all the rest of Eastern Europe where for decades, inhuman suppressive, murderous governments were glorified as the ideologically correct alternative to all other possibilities.
Appeasement crippled Europe when genocide ran rampant in Kosovo, and even though we had absolute proof of ongoing mass-murder, we Europeans debated and debated and debated, and were still debating when finally the Americans had to come from halfway around the world, into Europe yet again, and do our work for us.
Rather than protecting democracy in the Middle East, European appeasement, camouflaged behind the fuzzy word "equidistance,"now countenances suicide bombings in Israel by fundamentalist Palestinians.
Appeasement generates a mentality that allows Europe to ignore nearly 500,000 victims of Saddam's torture and murder machinery and, motivated by the self-righteousness of the peace-movement, has the gall to issue bad grades to George Bush... Even as it is uncovered that the loudest critics of the American action in Iraq made illicit billions, no, TENS of billions, in the corrupt U.N. Oil-for-Food program.
And now we are faced with a particularly grotesque form of appeasement. How is Germany reacting to the escalating violence by Islamic fundamentalists in Holland and elsewhere? By suggesting that we really should have a "Muslim Holiday" in Germany?
I wish I were joking, but I am not. A substantial fraction of our (German) Government, and if the polls are to be believed, the German people, actually believe that creating an Official State "Muslim Holiday" will somehow spare us from the wrath of the fanatical Islamists.
One cannot help but recall Britain's Neville Chamberlain waving the laughable treaty signed by Adolph Hitler, and declaring European "Peace in our time".
What else has to happen before the European public and its political leadership get it? There is a sort of crusade underway, an especially perfidious crusade consisting of systematic attacks by fanatic Muslims, focused on civilians, directed against our free, open Western societies, and intent upon Western Civilization's utter destruction.
It is a conflict that will most likely last longer than any of the great military conflicts of the last century - a conflict conducted by an enemy that cannot be tamed by "tolerance" and "accommodation" but is actually spurred on by such gestures, which have proven to be, and will always be taken by the Islamists for signs of weakness.
Only two recent American Presidents had the courage needed for anti-appeasement: Reagan and Bush.
His American critics may quibble over the details, but we Europeans know the truth. We saw it first hand: Ronald Reagan ended the Cold War, freeing half of the German people from nearly 50 years of terror and virtual slavery. And Bush, supported only by the Social Democrat Blair, acting on moral conviction, recognized the danger in the Islamic War against democracy. His place in history will have to be evaluated after a number of years have passed.
In the meantime, Europe sits back with charismatic self-confidence in the multicultural corner, instead of defending liberal society's values and being an attractive center of power on the same playing field as the true great powers, America and China.
On the contrary - we Europeans present ourselves, in contrast to those arrogant Americans", as the World Champions of "tolerance", which even (Germany's Interior Minister) Otto Schily justifiably criticizes.
Why? Because we're so moral? I fear it's more because we're so materialistic so devoid of a moral compass.
For his policies, Bush risks the fall of the dollar, huge amounts of additional national debt, and a massive and persistent burden on the American economy - because unlike almost all of Europe, Bush realizes what is at stake - literally everything.
While we criticize the "capitalistic robber barons" of America because they seem too sure of their priorities, we timidly defend our Social Welfare systems. Stay out of it! It could get expensive! We'd rather discuss reducing our 35-hour workweek or our dental coverage, or our 4 weeks of paid vacation... Or listen to TV pastors preach about the need to "reach out to terrorists. To understand and forgive".
These days, Europe reminds me of an old woman who, with shaking hands, frantically hides her last pieces of jewelry when she notices a robber breaking into a neighbor's house.
Appeasement?
Europe, thy name is Cowardice.
---God Bless America---
Anjem Choudhry, like many islamists think that the arguements he uses, are valid only for his cause. He cannot envisage that those very same arguements can be used against his cause. He relies on this, for he knows that our morality is higher then his. Theodore Dalrymple illustrates this from experience.
The suicide bombers amongst us.
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I noticed one day that his mood had greatly improved; he was communicative and almost jovial, which he had never been before. I asked him what had changed in his life for the better. He had made his decision, he said. Everything was resolved. He was not going to kill himself in an isolated way, as he had previously intended. Suicide was a mortal sin, according to the tenets of the Islamic faith. No, when he got out of prison he would not kill himself; he would make himself a martyr, and be rewarded eternally, by making himself into a bomb and taking as many enemies with him as he could.
Enemies, I asked; what enemies? How could he know that the people he killed at random would be enemies? They were enemies, he said, because they lived happily in our rotten and unjust society. Therefore, by definition, they were enemies—enemies in the objective sense, as Stalin might have put it—and hence were legitimate targets.
I asked him whether he thought that, in order to deter him from his course of action, it would be right for the state to threaten to kill his mother and his brothers and sisters—and to carry out this threat if he carried out his, in order to deter others like him.
The idea appalled him, not because it was yet another example of the wickedness of a Western democratic state, but because he could not conceive of such a state acting in this unprincipled way. In other words, he assumed a high degree of moral restraint on the part of the very organism that he wanted to attack and destroy.
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http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_4_suicide_bombers.html
"Senior Irish police are studying Choudary's remarks to determine if they represent an incitement to hatred."
This just sounds like standard Islamic fare -- Same sewage we've been hearing from Muslims since 1979... But it took 9/11 to make me realize -- THEY MEAN IT WHEN THEY TALK LIKE THIS...
When are "the authorities" in the West going to start honoring their commitments to defend their homelands from this seditious rhetoric and the violence it instills? It is really quite simple... You have thralls who vow allegiance to an ideology which intends to destroy your form of government -- it's known as
TREASON -- SEDITION -- INCITEMENT TO REBEL -- It is clearly illegal -- it is clearly dangerous -- it is clearly something this pig should be arrested for and subjected to water boarding!
My point is my friends, that although the pathetic governments of Europe desperately try to hide it, there is great strength in the people of Europe. I would not give up on Europe yet my friends.
Posted by: The Englishman
Believe me, we are praying for Britain and Europe to confront this scourge. I think Americans of goodwill chide Europe hoping it will move them to resist islam. On the other hand, the US needs to stand a little taller in this war also, our government is too soft IMAO.
Mackie
Thats a geat find. That guy says it all.
Cheers
Albion
Tat wod ws of corse menat 2 b "great""
"On the other hand, the US needs to stand a little taller in this war also, our government is too soft IMAO."
Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 11, 2005 01:31 PM
You seem to be forgetting the tiny little detail that:
a) Lack of manpower. We are currently stationing troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, South Korea, Kosovo, Bosnia, Germany, Italy, Japan, and Taiwan. (And about 120 other countries.) Our military manpower is stretched to the max and our recruitments has fallen FAR below quota. Unless we start conjuring soldiers out of thin air, we won't be able to do much of anything.
b) Costs of War. Infantry costs about half a million per person. A bradly tank costs about 5 million. A bomber costs about 50 million.
c) Internal dissent. A huge portion of the American population has been taken over by rabid hippie communists who actively work to undermine our country. On one occasion, I had to protect U.S. soldiers from a rabid American communist. (Ironic, but marines are almost helpless against American civilians. Boys, I applaud your restraint.)
d) International dissent. The United Nations likes to tie our hands behind our backs while it watches the Darfur genocide from afar.
Sorry, Carolyn2, but America has been doing plenty and our economy has been suffering for it. Our taxes are rising. Our dollar is hurting. Our economy is going under. Our social security is about to collapse. Medicare is failing. Our school system has fallen to corruption and incompetence.
It's time for France, and Spain, and Germany, and Italy, and Russia, and Japan, and China to start DOING something. They don't seem to understand that if America overextends herself and collapses, the entire Infidel world is f###ed.
Nqamah Ben Mavet I do agree the United States is spending too much money on its military and it needs help in this conflict. But most of the places you listed the US having troops in have nothing to do with fighting this current threat. The US has to acknowledge the cold war is over. It has to be clear about who the real enemy is. It must stop making trouble in Eastern Europe(ie Kosovo) if it wants to be trusted. Then hopefully these other countries can support the US against the ISlamo-fascists.
What an arrogant little fart this Anjem Choudary is and will be his undoing I think. Collaboraters - are we to understand the Republic of Ireland is under the wannabe Caliphate of Bin Laden and his cronies?? It's a scandal he is allowed to 'debate' at fine old Trinity College in the first place. However, can't help chuckling as I remember the number of pubs in Dublin : there seemed to be at least one on every street and often in the plural...All that alcohol for pious Muslims to condemn along with lots of Irish laughter and jokes, Heaven help them if they jest about Mohammed of course or place a tankard on the holy Koran. Agree the Irish know little about Islam; the laxity in looking & checking passports is frightening but
like all of us it takes an outright attack to
alert us to the danger of ROP.
The economy's ills are not the result of military-naval activity in the broader Near East. Defense spending as a percentage of GDP is at a pathetic historical low.
Rather, America's economic woes (such as they are) stem from a lesser dosage the very socialism that has addled Europe to the point where a few pious, peace-loving youths can bring France to her knees. Social security, taxation at the social justice level, welfarism in general and a venomous Leftist disdain for free markets and private property are the problem.
Freed from effete euro-economics, Uncle Sam could fight in Iraq and Afghanistan indefinitely with little financial pinch. Likewise John Bull & Sons, bless them all.
Ireland is known as the "Green Isle" and as such, surely this gives the Islamic Fascists some Muslim claim over it? Let's be reasonable...!
Also -- I'm certain you can find Muslim scholars willing to guarantee that Ireland was once Muslim territory anyway -- they are simply waiting to revert back to the primary religion of Planet Earth -- Islam...
Mackie, that's a great post. Thanks.
Nqamah Ben Mavet,
I am speaking about our borders and KSA. Our leaders seem to give with one hand and take back with the other. Mixed messages, fight terrorism...but the "RoP® is a religion of peace, that has had it's doctrines twisted" etc. So, I understand it as "fight, but don't fight too hard and hurt some muslim's feelings by assuming all islam is the problem," even though the core of islam is jihad, as expressed in the qur'an and hadith.
OT,
Al-Douri is dead, maybe. I'd like to see his dead hide. Where did he die? Syria?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4429608.stm
Ireland is one of my favourite countries, their catholic soul, their celtic music and others are very important for me. But I know that being menaced by jihadists is a motif of pride for us.
We will win.
Americans have never given up on Europe, we are just tired of being hated no matter where we go, or what we do. It seems trendy now to point fingers at the U.S. and say, they are the root of all evil. Seems to me, that we have always tried to help. I don't know what you have seen in two world wars, but what I saw was Americans giving their lives for freedom, even if it was freedom for others than ourselves. It brings tears to my eyes thinking of my Grandfather fighting away from home and giving his life, and then not getting the respect he deserves. This troubles me deeply.
I don't think the Irish would take too kindly to a bunch of degenerate Bedouin sheep herding barbarians blowing up anything in their country.
They aren't the French- they will kick every last one of them out of the country, dead or alive.
My Grandfather gave his life, my Father did the same, I guess I have no choice but to be next, pray for me in the after life. Let freedom ring and GOD SAVE IRELAND! My only question is, what have you done for your country today? Proud American. Oh, and don't forget we were all indentured servants from Ireland, Europe is and shall be in my heart, wish me luck!
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God indivisible and to bring liberty and justice for all of us!
Posted by: todd at November 11, 2005 07:55 PM
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God indivisible that brings liberty and justice for all of us!
Posted by: todd at November 11, 2005 07:55 PM
Mullahmasher....
I would expect that the good Irish would insure that NO muslim barbarian made it out of Ireland alive! And I would expect them to keep quiet about it! No news is good news. What is the expression? "Ireland...the land of happy wars and sad love songs." Irish lads, be happy in your work. You saved Christianity before in history, your time is coming around again. You will be doing the Lord's work.
...thousands of juiced up soccer hooligans just licking their chops. Go ahead Ahmed, torch a few Irish pubs...
Eire, oh Ireland,
lush isle, misty isle,
mysterious spirits
roam your countryside calling
ancient warriors to battle,
brave beyond measure,
fearless of death.
Oh Celts, please listen
to the caw of the crow,
he tells you what you need to know.
The enemy's near,they are coming,
Beware!
Prayers for the Soldiers
Courageous warriors
of all times,lived and died
for the greater good,
stood staunch
against slavery,
in order for us to be free,
have the freedom to live life,
have civil liberties
and pursue happiness.
They protect us and keep us safe.
My prayers for them are of great gratitude
and respect. Thank you, soldiers,
May there be many more men born like you.
Ireland will be fine. I'm English, and I should know that Ireland is the one place you dont want to conquer. No disrespect intended, but those guys can look after themselves. The Islamists are going to be in for a nasty shock, hehehe
I agree with The Englishman. Those guys do not want to mess with the Irish. The Irish know how to resist and they know how to suffer. And they know how to say their Rosary which was the catalyst for the turning point at Lepanto. And besides all that, they'll never give up their ale!!
Chatillon,
You ask whom Anjem Choudary speaks for. He still is or at least was until recently the head of the Muslim Lawyers Association in Britain.
Incidentally, he has not been a fanatic all his life. At university he liked people to call him Andy, drank cider and smoked pot.
A common enemy might be good for the Irish. It might even unite the catholics and the protestants...
Miracles do happen...
Those guys especially do not want to mess with the IRA - even if they've supposedly given up the armed struggle.
Don't forget that both the IRA and Basque ETA are believed to have trained in Libya during the 70s. Although it was never clear (to me at least) just quite who was expecting to benefit most from the arrangement. But with developments since I doubt that the alliance would be extended.
Ireland a target, of course a fatwas will be raised immediately, all you have to do is wait and see and even a pious Muslim is a target, most of these suicide casulties are more than likely not Jihadic Muslims.
Yes the IRA and Libya do have ties together, but the IRA is another branch of a tree that promotes terrorism, though they have turned away from their objective.(At least for now)
I would like to ask Anjem if He would like to be on the receiving end of one of these attacks.
And that is probably your answer is No. Whats good for Islam is good for the Islamicists. And since the Christian Nation of Ireland, I confess divided in many of its views and wars of Catholic/Protestant
divisions is such a threat to the Islamic cause, I hope that the likes of Anjem, who are going to screw up a lot of things for the more peaceful Muslims who are not killing Monsters in Europe understand that eventually people do get outraged and less fearful of these renagade sucidic Jihadists, as their most immoblising weapon is fear, are going to cause good honest citizens, to a more confrentational route with the Islamicists in Europe, I hope that Anjem understands that as truly as his mouth runs, another mouth will one day want to silence his. And if I have to run the banner of the Cross untill the day I die and I am silenced or am shied away in the asylum, I will
battle this enemy that has declared war on me and my brethen, I am tired of waiting for the axe to fall. Mr Anjem is now an enemy of the Truth.