Muslim fanatics terrorise a nation

They dug their own holes on this one, if they want to stay free they better start filling them back in.

There ain't no way back from the abyss except to STAND YOUR GROUND AND FIGHT ME HEARTIES! No one is going to come to the aid of beleaguered Europe - America has it's own Islamic Jihadis like Australia. This is WAR , not of our choosing but war nevertheless and we can forget about Muzzie sensibilities for what we are really fighting for is OUR SURVIVAL ON THIS PLANET. One quick way to stifle opposition is to bomb Mecca and Medina. Mo's superstitious billion followers will see for themselves it was just a bit of old rock and Mo just another crazy man.

Believe me, this is just a warm-up. The Muslims are merely getting started in Holland. And just wait until the Dutch find out that the other European nations are too chicken to aid them!

I'm working my way through "Why I'm Not a Muslim" this week. The early chapters on the origins of Islam and the Quran are, to say the least, eye-opening. Whatever the origins of Judaism and Christianity, Islam has to be the most cobbled-together, rubed-up, patched together, borrowed and stolen outright organized crime syndicate that has ever masqueraded as an ideology.

These are not religious fanatics, they're gangsters. The Quran and Ahadith were created as needed to serve the purpose of the moment, the rituals like the Hajj are pagan rites from before Big Mo, the whole thing stinks.

Once people realize this, we can discard all the warm-and-fuzzy crap about religious freedom and start dealing with the Islamic problem for what it is, a modern-day fascist organ, bent on world domination. You fight it like the other fascists, not by donating to it's building fund and educational system, you fight it with guns and bombs and bullets and it's members aren't immigrants, they're invaders.

T-ham, I bow before you, that first paragraph was classic.

In the finest tradition of Chinese business, I am going to appropriate it and use it for my own means...a sort of copyright infringement if you will. Sorry.

One of the problems (not just of the Dutch but of all the western civilization) is that we all seem to have forgotten that freedom of religion is the result of a contract social made up after ages of struggle and combat. The religions who should be "free" are those that accept the outcome of this struggle. Islamism isn't one of those, so freedom of religion should not apply to it. It is an enemy ideology that seeks to overthrow our way of life, our system. I repeat it as often as I can, because I think a lot of politicians and thinkers have forgotten the base on which our freedoms stand, en thus have forgotten how to defend them.

Netherlanders consider themselves as very progressive,freedom loving country.Like other Europen countries ,they openheartly welcome these poisonous pests called islamists from ghutters of Morroco and turkey,gave them jobs,welfare funding ,and above all dignity. Now they are reaping the cosequences. Unless an underground Crudader movement is started in Europe and America by the REAL natives of the respective lands,,the respective Politicians will present their countires to these Satanic evils. KKK,skin heads,and the lot...do you hear me??

From the article:It was the first political killing in The Netherlands for three centuries and was seen as a one-off. But the murder of van Gogh two years later convinced people that the threat of political killing had become permanent.

It does nor have to be this way. There is a way and it can be done by any nation that wishes to exercise its sovereignty. Muslims may appear very confident by the way the Netherlands has become a land of fear. However, the continued islamic claims of muslims being in England for a 1000 years, having discovered America, Australia etc, reveals a deep insecurity ie they wish to convince us all that are sons of the soil, in Europe and America. That insecurity comes from the fear that they may all be shown the door and forced out.

I have said this often enough over the last 4 years. We cannot continue to live in fear for the indefinite future. That way lies disaster for us and by extention to muslim nations who rely on us for their sustenance.

This has not been a good month. We need some good news for a change.

Our freedom to criticise without fear is now compromised by PCness on the one hand, and fear of being casually murdered by a muslim living on Benefits in our lands. Why are we using cryptic names in our communications on blogs? Why do we deem it as necessary, that we have to hide our identity as if we were spies in WWII Germany?
Fear is the most disabling emotion in a human or a society. It paralyses the mind, then the spirit, and then finally paralyses the body. There is no emotion as deadly to the human condition as fear.
And to make it immeasurably worse, it is costing us huge amounts of money to keep muslims in the West on Welfare, while compromising our freedoms, and at the same time living in fear.

How long are we going to put up with up this nonsense? A person or society can live only for so long in fear. It either revolts violently or succumbs to a whimpering death.

I'm afraid that an explosion is going to take place that will take a sizeable part of humanity to an untimely death. Yet all it takes to avert this catastrophe is not allow muslim immigration in the first place, and then to reverse it by making the West as islam-unfriendly as possible. In so doing we will force a reformation of islam i.e., in effect its abandonment, and thus free the billion souls in its captivity. And even if that does not occur, we will have at the least, removed the climate of fear that we are living in now, restored our freedoms, and removed an unnecessary expense of time and money.

The only question is how do we get to the satge that we can implement this policy?

Morgane

Bombing Mecca and Medina will work as that would excite the muslim unmmah to declare and engage in total war on us. That will then give us all the reasons to wage war properly and finish the job. I mean properly, and not as now, with million dollar precision guided missilies against a couple of Jihadis in the desert.

re: the policewomn who was shot dead in Bradford. Six people, all of them Somali illegals or asylun seekers, have been arrested. No surprise to anyone who knows the nature of Somalia and its people.

Somalia and Afghanistan - these are two nations that are considered the pits, even by other muslim nations. How on earth people in high office could ever think that they could bring democracy to Afghanistan or Somalia, beats me.

In the parliament in The Hague, inside the airport-style security, two besuited bodyguards stand erect outside the office of Geert Wilders, Ali's political rival, checking closely anyone who has permission to enter. "I have been deluged with death threats," said the maverick right-wing MP, who has called for the deportation of Islamic extremists.

Have I missed something? Have ANY been deported? Anywhere?

"Now, many politicians, writers and artists are considered to be in such danger that they have permanent armed guards and are driven around in bomb-proof armoured cars. The Interior Ministry has set up a special unit assessing death threats from Islamic extremists and providing protection squads. "

This is the end result of left wing, liberal indiscriminate multi-cultural loving, all roads lead to heaven governments; and right wing, capitalistic, cheap labour seeking governments.

I've always wondered why Muslims and politicians get along; after all, the latter are generally pigs.

I am surprised that “The Australian” newspaper is publishing such articles. It is a good thing, as they are usually very PC. Maybe the journo's are getting scared in this country (Aust).

I think it is soooooooooooooooooooo hypocritical that politicians need body guards (except those who have consistently spoken the truth about Islam). In Australia the head of the Fed Police, Mike Kelty (sp??) said that the police are not targeting Muslims. Great then, let's get rid of his body guards, after all "Islam is Peace". Better yet, lets give him Islamic bodyguards, along with the PM and any other polly who says, "Islam is Peace". Let's see them put there money where there mouth is! After all, “Islam is Peace” – so what problem would a polly have with an Islamic believing body guard?

After all, will they be sitting on a public transport bus/train, next to a Jihadi when it blows up? Ans: No, they will be driven around in their chauffer limo with bodyguards in tow.

T-ham

Yes, they are gangsters.

Islam is religious gangsterism, but with the aggravating feature that they preach that they are so virtuous.

At least the real gangsters don't have that double-facedness and are straight villains.

The day will come soon both here in America and Europe when after some massive Islamic attack people will stand up to be counted and confront the Islamic threat to our civilization without fear but filled with righteous anger and determination to win.

I talk with a lot of Europeans both family and as part of my work and I have seen the change this year.

Madrid
London
Amsterdam ....
and the burning of France on some level is waking up the deep desire of self preservation that has been resting for too long.

A friend from Holland recently told me in soft voice that there is a great deal of anger brewing among the average Dutch.

All it awaits is the spark to transform into an overwhelming force of self protection.

Watch the coming elections and you will see a shift to the right.

Free Europe from an invading force of Islamo- fascist.

Free Europe from demographic invasion

The best way to fight is to keep telling the truth about Islam

I have a personal campaign to reach as many friends and family as I can to wake them up with the truth of the nature of the enemy.

If thats true Cid, then you better man up and get yourself some firepower. Five million muslims in France alone will make for a large war.

They wont go easily in war and they wont go easily in peace; it will get far, far worse before it gets better.

As we all know, it's not just the Netherlands being transformed...

From the Copenhagen Post~
http://www.cphpost.dk/get/92266.html

""A Muslim cleric is sentenced to jail for interfering in a crime case

An Iraqi-born imam was sentenced to prison in a Copenhagen court last week for attempting to persuade a mother not to report her husband for sexually abusing their son.

The Eastern High Court found that the imam had pressed and threatened the woman to try to get her to withdraw her report of her husband and one of his friends for sexually abusing her seven-year-old son.

‘If he swears by the Koran that he didn’t do it, you must go to the police and tell them that you’re not going ahead with the case,’ the imam reportedly told the mother in one of his phone calls. ‘Remember that we are Muslims, and if you haven’t seen anything, he hasn’t done anything.’

Despite heavy pressure from the 44-year-old religious leader, the woman persisted and testified against the two men in court. She is now living at a secret address.

The boy’s father has been sentenced to three years in prison and deportation for sexually abusing his son. The father’s friend was sentenced to 18 months in prison and deportation. The imam received 60 days in prison for his attempts to influence the court’s witness.""

And these articles also from the Cophenhagen Post

About free speech and anti-terror laws turning the country into a police state.

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/92267.html

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/92259.html

That brave woman and her son now get the dubious honor of joining the legions of people already in hiding from the savages.

At this rate, we are all going to have to hire our own private cop.

Dead;

Hey, my pleasure! I also do Bar Mitzvahs, store openings, retirement parties. Clown suits are extra and require a deposit.

Seriously, if you haven't yet read it, get it. The first chapters alone are worth it. I've got a reading list(from refs in "Why") that will keep me busy for a quite while. The staggering amount of scholarly research done by non-muslims with no axe to grind or belief to defend is mind-boggling. Stuff you'd never know about from just mindlessly feeding on the recieved "truths" of contemporary perceptions.

In all fairness and in the spirit of the rational, it's probably a good thing to augment your reading with Thomas Paine's essays on Deism. All the major religions have borrowed from each other, it's just that Islam has produced something far more malignant.

That link from the Copenhagen Post was an eye opener.

Dead;

It is true that Muslim minorities will resist violently and their numbers are huge, but I predict that their total dependence on infidel societies put them them at a disadvantage, if the Europeans have the will to resist.

1) Non-Muslims have the overwhelming number of arms as well as control of the army. Most members of the armed forces of France have stood by with seething anger as they say their country burn and they have a history of stepping in if civil governments prove incapable to maintain order.

2) The huge numbers of Muslims makes them an ideal hostage population, imagine surrounding these suburbs with the army and controlling who eats and who heats their homes. We don't have to control their housing projects we just have to control who and what gets in.

3) If a crisis erupts, say armed rebellion from the same guys that have been burning cars them, French law is robust enough to shut down the socialist media outlets. This same media can then work in a reverse Dihimmitude to wear down the Muslim will. Make our society un Muslim friendly and they will return to their native countries in droves.

I come from a Spanish military family, although I am a proud and loyal American citizen, and the above are the kinds of things that I have been hearing all this year from my family in Europe. After the burning of France they no speak about it in the open... and many are waiting for the crisis to escalate and the politicians to lead.

I assure you that this fight has only just begun and Muslim arrogance and perception of European weakness will push it over the edge.

We in America must offer our support because their fight is our fight.

As i have said before world solidarity is the only way to survive this Islamic invasion.

I know that my views don't represent the scholarly observations of the organizers of this website, Mr Roberts and Hugh have a much greater perspective of the history of Islam and it's incompatibly to coexist with other civilizations. Still I think that I have an obligation to pass on the changes i see happening in Europe especially France because much of it is unreported.

And yet massive immigration continues.

Hmmmmmmm. Maybe the tolerance of people who are out to do damage to everyone else is not necessarily a virtue?

But, I actually sympathize with the head of the Oz Fed. Police cited above. No, he shouldn't target Muslims. He should target murderers, gansters, rapists, or whichever crimes against persons and property the Oz constitution puts under his purview. If he ends up nabbing a lot of Muslims who have left fingerprints, DNA traces, and witnesses at crime scenes, it's the OZ Muslim community that needs to do some soul-searching.

As for the Somali diaspora, I can't help noting that the Lackawanna Six were fingered by fellow Yemeni Muslim immigrants; and Yemen's just across a narrow gulf from the Somali countries (a land now fragmenting).

And polygamy is being more and more accepted.

And the social benefits programs that fund and encourage all this are not being reformed.

True the social welfare net still supports them, but with the mounting cost of the Muslim presence in say France rising, and the ton of money that will probably be thrown at them, in a last ditch effort to appease and which is bound to fail, how long will the average non-muslim tolerate even the slightest cut in their social payments.

Think of the millions of dollars wasted in burned cars and infrastructure, this will have a devastating effect on the moribund socialist economies already failing to provide growth.

We can not expect a change of policy in respect to polygamy and social benefits programs over night, until the economic system hits a crisis that severally effects the benefits of the non-muslim majority.

Cut one social benefit or shorten a vacation by one day and you will see hugh protest that will dwarf anything that has been seen yet.

The breaking point will come when the average Joe or Jacques is offered the choice social welfare for you or them, then over night politicians will be singing a different tune.

In a way, the riots and current intifada will result in initial huge sums spent to appease then shocking realization that giving in will only multiply their demands, then the final conclusion us or them, our good life or their deportation.

Follow the money, it will be the realization of the costs of having this huge and hostile population, destroying their socialist paradise that will light the fire of the harsh European response to come.

In the meantime the circus continues. and people all over Europe are slowly waking up to the invaders who are nominal citizens but really just want to impose dihimmitude.

The Muslim intifada will bring on the collapse of the socialist welfare state and the civil war will begin. If you have ever witness a strike by public employees in France or Spain you have no idea of the ferocity that the middle class can unleash when they see their accustomed life style challenged.

All the while elements of the security apparatus wait in the wings to defend their countries.

Stay tuned this has only just begun and this year was just the first salvo.

Borg: 'and yet massive muslim immigration continues'. Yes indeed! But no body cares!.United States have tightened a bit,but take for instance Canada.Here Immigration department is fully in the hands of islamists.All the namesake 'refugees'of islamic countries -such as somalia,Iraq,indonesia all are here -with free landing,subsistance allowance etc. Now the Pakistan guys are bringing as refugees the pak earth quake victims.These pan-handlers will be a jihadist once their stomack is full.In England,Germany,France,Netherlands,Belgeum,still they are inviting these thugs as immigrants. When will they learn a lession? It is a well known fact that these jihadists are lazy and never work.They servive on welfare, and indulge in their mission of expanding islam. If on the other hand,these countries take immigrants from chinese,hindus,budhists,and Christians of islamic countries(who are persecuted),they will not only work hard for you,but also will be faithful for your salt that they mey eat.See in france,the immigrants from china,hindus,and others never participated in this burning and looting. Only mulims of Arab and african muslims did it all. Will these above countries at least now put a barrier to importing these sangerous cult of islamists?

i have to refer people to the book of daniel in the old testament, chapter 2, verses 31-45. it describes a dream by king nebuchadnezzar of babylon. what we are seeing with islamic integration is a change of kingdoms. in the statue of the king's dream, we are in the transition from the legs of iron, into the feet of iron mixed with mirey, brittle clay. islam is the clay. islam will become mixed with the iron roman kingdoms of the world. the clay and the iron will not mix, however, such as the ideologies of islam and western thought will not mix. these feet may exist for a few hundred years or so in this apartheid integration as it were, and then the ten toes form, the final world kingdom, still a brittle mixture of iron and clay of ten regions with a king over each. it is during these ten toes that jesus christ returns and replaces all of these kingdoms with one which will not pass away. so the primary decision of each individual is whether they have placed their trust in jesus christ through faith. it doesn't have to be a large amount of faith, but just to place it in the right place, jesus christ.
yes islam is very threatening with it's supposedly superior piety with which islam justifies it's outrageous behavior. we must simply keep islam at arms length while islam establishes the clay component of our societies. this includes defending ourselves and our principles of freedom, but getting rid of islam is just not going to happen. a segregated integration with islam will happen. i believe that as more and more terrorists are eliminated, we will have a form of freedom in muslim lands resembling trhe mixture of iron and clay that western societies end up with.
my advice is to not ever get converted to islam but to convert to jesus christ instead because jesus will hold all the cards when antichrist is done away with after the ten toes have given their power to the antichrist.
we just have to be patient and allow our governments to peacefully, or not so peacefully, merge free lands with islamic lands and vice versa. this is a new paradigm and we don't really have any choice because it is already written in the book of daniel. we are going to have an integrated, but ideologically divided world.
i believe islam has to position itself in this way, with independent, autonomous enclaves in the west, so as to be able to briefly take over governance of the world under the antichrist. that is why islam is positioning itself now with a framework for future takeover. no we don't like it but that is what we must live with until nebuchadnezzar's dream of the statue of the world's kingdoms is completed.

Oh please! So is that why Christians foolishly help muslims? So your children and grandchildren can suffer their whole lives. Because you think your book is right. Political correctness is not natural to mankind. Even a lowly bug would fight to protect it's territory. There are many different ways of thinking, what if your way is wrong. Your progeny will suffer for eternity at the hands of muslims. Or there will be no more progeny because they are slaughtered or, for you, even worse, they are converted to islam.
You know THEY think THEIR book is right, too.

Dumber than a bug.

realanswers~try getting through this. It's really, really long but written for someone like you by someone like you.

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/nikiu2_chronicle.htm

make sure you don't quit until you get through reading all of chapter CXI and what follows. If your not a catholic priest and you ever have children maybe they will thank you for understanding the past and not sitting around looking forward to their destruction for your deity.

...he indulged his passions as he saw fit, including sex, and like everyone else attended the games where gladiators killed each other and criminals were eaten alive, for the enjoyment of the spectators.

But among the sights he saw, was that of Christians being executed this way. He was struck with the courage with which stupid and contemptible slave men and little slave girls faced a hideous death, against all nature; and after investigating, became a Christian himself, and turned his budding talents to writing in defense of this despised and victimised group....

Tertullian had grown angry at what looked like compromise creeping into the church - unwillingness to be martyred,...

Did you get that? He was angry because the church goers were not willingly allowing themselves to be martyred. But, he DID admire the 'stupid and comtemptible slave men and little slave girls' who faced a hideous death...
This was 2000 years ago but relevant today. He was a wealthy PC liberal just way ahead of his time.

Best news from Rotterdam today:

some muslim politician (once affiliated with GroenLinks) named Brahim Bourzik now wants signs in Rotterdam for muslims that show which way east/Mecca is in order for muslims to do proper prayers.

He came to the idea after travelling through Saudi-Arabia and seeing those signs.

Guess some people still don't understand this is the Netherlands.

"said the maverick right-wing MP.."
-- from the article above

What makes Geert Wilders "right-wing"? Would he be "right-wiing" in a way that is different from Pim Fortuyn, who had nothing "right wing" about him, or Ayaan Hirsi Ali (ditto) -- unless, of course, being alarmed by what is contained in Qur'an, Hadith and sira, and those who take their worldview and guidance from what is contained in those same texts, and having been so alarmed, wish to sound the alarm for others, constitutes being "right wing."

During the Lebanese Civil War, the Christians of Lebanon, including modest farmers in Christian villages, were always described, formulaically, with Homeric epithets, as "right-wing." This was in Le Monde and in The New Duranty Times and everywhere: "Right-wing Christians." No one could, then or now, explain what made Lebanese Christians "right-wing." It is an all-purpose eptihet, designed to shut off thought, to prevent all thought. Only "right-wingers" are alarmed about Islam.

Nonsense. Just one more bit of the stupidity that can become, that already is, suicidal. To slightly alter Houseman -- "An air that kills/From yon far country blows." That far country, from which comes that air that kills, is actually not far but near, right here within the Lands of the Infidels, within the minds of the Infidels themselves who will not see, and refuse to find out.

If only those who remain so silly and so complacent were the only ones to suffer from that silliness and complacency. But the rest of us will suffer as well. And we don't deserve it.

Is anyone here from France? What is your opinion on the growing strength of the neo-fascist movement and the reaction of the public to their message given recent events?