Take a long, hard look at yourself, sheik says

TYPICAL MUSLIM BEHAVIOUR...never crap on your own doorstep!!! regards dirtywicker2002

"Islam does not call for... to annihilate or kill whoever is inside..."

Do you wish to stay with that viewpoint, Sheikh Fehmi?

We wish Islam was on the side of your statement. We really do.

But the Qur'an states: "And when the forbidden months have passed slay the infidels everywhere they are found; besiege them, capture them, prepare every stratagem of warfare against them."

The words of your prophet, allegedly emanating from Allah (interpreted into English). Contextual arguments cannot wholly alter this particular concept, Mr. Fehmi. There it is for all to see. For all believers to abide (many do too).

It appears to the world, Islam IS designed to kill as many non-Muslims as it possibly can (and does). Islam's history of unparalleled bloodshed supports this viewpoint too.

Well, we have the example of the disgusting founder of this cult, Mohammad, ordering children butchered
and women sold as sex slaves. So, I believe the
vermin who are saying "Kill the infidel" and not the
lying vermin who puts on a moderate face.

"If it is true what is said about this man, then when he says he is calling for Islamic jihad, he is calling for his own, fabricated jihad. Islamic jihad does not call for killing innocent men, women and children and to think nothing of it,"

Qur’an 2:216: “Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims), though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not.” [Another translation reads:] “Warfare is ordained for you.”

Dude, who are you fooling?

I spent a couple of hours digging into this Fehmi Naji El-Imam, general secretary of the Board of Imams of Victoria.

A couple of disquieting things about this apparently eminently moderate Imam who has participated in countless "bridge-building" seminars and colloquiums dedicated to inter-faith and inter-cultural dialogue:

This was culled from transcripts from a news magazine [apparently televised or on radio] reported by Lynn Bell in Australia while back.

(Bolded emphasis and bracket comments are mine.)

FEHMI NAJI EL-IMAM "Sheikh Omran is entitled to express the view that Osama bin Laden is a great man."

LYNN BELL: Australia's longest serving Imam, Sheikh Fehmi Naji El-Imam, also believes Sheikh Omran has every right to speak publicly about his beliefs.

FEHMI NAJI EL-IMAM: Well, I agree with his own opinion (inaudible), he can express it but do I agree that bin Laden is responsible or not, I do not know. [If this paragon of Islamic moderation can say he "does not know" of bin Laden's guilt, what does this say about moderate Muslims!?] I am here, Sheikh Fehmi Naji El-Imam, in Australia, and bin Laden is, God knows where he is, I don't know what he's doing every day, what he decided and what he has done in the past or not. I cannot pin it down because there's nothing confirmed to me 100 per cent that he has done it, or somebody confirmed to me he has not done it. [a little sly, Chomskyesque taqyah here]

Extract from The World Today, 8/7/05: Sheikh Fehmi Naji El-Imam... told Natasha Simpson that some Muslims have been driven to violent acts because of the West's actions in Iraq and Afghanistan... Attacking Iraq is the reason. Attacking Afghanistan is the reason...

Natasha Simpson: So are you saying the actions of the West have driven some Muslims to this sort of action?

Sheikh Fehmi: It is, it is.

Margaret Coffey: This explanation for terrorism is labelled the Jerusalem theory by a prominent British Muslim.

Abdal Hakim Murad: The Jerusalem theory holds that the West deals so unfairly with the Muslim world .. [it is] regrettable but predictable that extreme margin should take a pot at the west out of frustration and desire for revenge. The Riyadh theory holds that this is in fact all of this is a religious movement, explaining itself religiously and ultimately Islamically and hence it has to be interpreted as a theological aberration.

Margaret Coffey: ...The Jerusalem theory is one of two major explanations proffered by Muslim leaders of events like the London bombings.

[Here is the other disturbing thing about Imam Fehmi. Read it all, but focus on the bolded part:]

ISLAMIC extremists linked to outlawed terrorist group Jemaah Islamiyah fired weapons and conducted close-quarters combat training in a remote forest outside Melbourne.

Attendees at the weekend camps, which have run for the past five years, are believed to include at least one of the Perth families ASIO raided in October.

The Courier-Mail's Insight team also has been told that senior UK-based Al-Qaeda operative Abu Qatada, accused of being a key influence in the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington, attended the camp as a spiritual guest speaker.

Sheikh Taj el din Al-Hilaly, Australia's most prominent Muslim leader [the one who said a while back that rape victims were "asking for it"] maintains Qatada not only entered the country in the 1990s but engaged in a speaking tour as well.

Fehmi Naji El-Imam, the Imam of Melbourne's Preston Mosque, confirmed yesterday that Qatada – also known as Omar Mohammed Othman – spoke to his congregation.

While Sheikh Fehmi said he could not remember exactly what Qatada preached, he remembered the cleric as a "good speaker" who spoke of Islam in general and toured "various cities".

Well-placed intelligence sources claim ASIO found spent cartridges at the undisclosed state forest training camp and listened in on some of the spiritual discussions.

Extremist Indonesian political movement, Ahlus Sunnah wal Jammah, which is associated with terrorist group Laskar Jihad (LJ) was believed to have organised the [terrorist] camps.

Insight [the news investigative team] understands the close-knit group, known for its secrecy and fundamentalist ideology, is based at the Preston Mosque [-- Imam Fehmi's Mosque!].

Sheikh Fehmi said while mosque patrons ran many summer camps for children and adults, he was not aware [!!] of mosque patrons or members organising military camps.

But Sheikh Fehmi said the existence of such camps, or the presence of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jammah, could not be ruled out as the mosque had between 500 and 1000 members.

[Commentary: So here we have one of the most eminent moderate, dialogue-seeking Imams in Australia, and at best, he was impressed by a key figure in the planning of 911, and he was ignorant of terrorists organizing camps out of his own mosque!!!]

...camp attendees, from all parts of Australia, have Algerian, Somali, Lebanese, Palestinian and Philippine backgrounds, with some Philippino [sic] members linked to JI.

The article is nothing more than showing an evolutionary Muslims v's a Revolutionary Muslim.

Either way - they both want the same thing - Sharia!.

They just disagree as to how to get there!

Dr Pepper
Thanks for your efforts in finding out about Sheik Fehmi - not one I'd heard about before and of course there are so many of these self appointed Mo-joes. "shown a lack of gratitude to his adopted country" Oh yeah. What about the words
'TREASON', 'INCITEMENT TO MURDER', 'CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES'.
With the usual deceit of his kind, Sheik Fehmi pretends not to have heard sermons he must have
known about even if through the comments of other
'moderate Muslims' like himself. Let us make no mistake, 'Moderate Muslims' admire Bin Laden and secretly support him and Worldwide Caliphate even if they aren't prepared to blow themselves up as suicide bombers. PUT IN A NUTSHELL ; WE CAN'T TRUST ANY MUSLIM!

11/16/2005
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/Articles/tendocuments.html

(7) On August 20, 1998, the Clinton administration bombed the al Shifa pharmaceutical factory in Sudan. The attack came in retaliation for the nearly simultaneous al Qaeda bombings of U.S. embassies in East Africa. The decision to strike al Shifa was--and remains--controversial. But senior Clinton administration officials defended the bombing, citing the presence of Iraqi scientists at chemical weapons facilities in Sudan. Several senior U.S. intelligence officials supported those claims. In an interview with THE WEEKLY STANDARD last year, John Gannon, who was at the time chairman of the CIA's National Intelligence Council, said this: "The consistent stream of intelligence at that time said it wasn't just al Shifa. There were three different [chemical weapons] structures in the Sudan. There was the hiring of Iraqis. There was no question that the Iraqis were there."
http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/Articles/bfhm.html
Iraqi President Makes Assurances to Pope
Thursday, November 10, 2005
Associated Press
http://202.60.196.117/breaking/read.php?lang=en&newsid=94567
SOUTHERN UNREST: Villagers to get weapons training
Published on Nov 14 , 2005
Supreme Command plans to recruit 20,000 volunteers for new scheme
About 20,000 residents will be trained and armed in the three southernmost provinces enabling them to defend their villages
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/
Jay Rockefeller And The Run Of Logan's Writ
My new Daily Standard column comes out today, and I wrote about the stunning admission from ranking Senate Intelligence Committee Democrat Jay Rockefeller that he discussed American terror-war strategy with terrorist sponsor Bashar Assad. While the column does not call for a charge of treason, it does ask how Rockefeller can possibly avoid an indictment for a violation of the Logan Act:
If Rockefeller discussed war plans with Assad while the United States had begun military operations against global terrorist organizations, which Assad has been known to fund, surely it is a major breach of the senator's duties? The Logan Act, a piece of rarely enforced legislation, may be pertinent[.]
I wrote this article before reading Bill Bennett's column in National Review. I would go farther than Bennett suggests; at the least, I think the full Senate should consider expulsion just on the basis of his admission. In going to a known supporter of our enemies in a time of armed conflict and admittedly advising Assad on our approach, he could not help but to give Assad and our enemies valuable insight into our war footing. Stupidity, in this case, is not a defense.
Posted by Captain Ed

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/367wlqji.asp
The strangest episode came from an appearance by Senator Jay Rockefeller on Fox News Sunday:
WALLACE: OK. Senator Rockefeller, the president says that Democratic critics, like you, looked at pre-war intelligence and came to the same conclusion that he did. In fact, looking back at the speech that you gave in October of 2002 in which you authorized the use of force, you went further than the president ever did. Let's watch:
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ROCKEFELLER: I do believe that Iraq poses an imminent threat, but I also believe that after September 11th that question is increasingly outdated.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WALLACE: Now, the president never said that Saddam Hussein was an imminent threat. As you saw, you did say that. If anyone hyped the intelligence, isn't it Jay Rockefeller?
ROCKEFELLER: No. I mean, this question is asked a thousand times and I'll be happy to answer it a thousand times. I took a trip by myself in January of 2002 to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria, and I told each of the heads of state that it was my view that George Bush had already made up his mind to go to war against Iraq, that that was a predetermined set course which had taken shape shortly after 9/11. [emphasis added]
What was the second-ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee doing in Syria, a country which perennially finds itself among the top listings of terrorist-sponsoring nations, discussing President Bush's decision-making on the war on terror with Bashar Assad, one of the worst sponsors of terror in the months after 9/11?

A GOOD READ AND WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO PUT HIM IN JAIL???

WHO AGAIN WHO SAYS DEMOCRATS ARE NOT A DANGER TO THE SAFTY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND WHEN IS THE SENATE GOING TO FIND OUT AND EXPOSE THE LEAKER OF CLASSIFIED INFO ABOUT PRISONS?
If it is McCain put him in jail too!!!!!

We have to get those who work with the enemy out of our towns!!!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTROY TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM GIVE THE WORLD COURAGE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT THESE MONSTERS AMEN

By the beard of the prophet, these scholars will be brought to account..

And in a commentary on the Sheik's statement in a related paper (The Age), titled
"Jihad Misunderstood by non-Muslins"
the commentator gives the game away:

"The Hadiths record that after victory in battle he (Mo) told his companions they had returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad.

Remind me, what did Jesus tell his companions when they returned from battle?

Help please: Can anyone here provide a source for this quote from Khomeini?

"Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]…. Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Qur’anic] psalms and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim."

I'm reposting this because I want everyone to see this - stopping this is a first step.

And another interesting polygamy story. This is in France, but it's coming to other countries soon.

http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20051111-021914-3739r

Experts who work with France's black community point to a different kind of family breakdown. Sonia Imloul of Respect 93, a non-governmental organization, says one of the biggest problems is polygamy, and cites the example of one family she knows with one father, four wives and thirty children, all living in the same standard 4-room apartment of French public housing.

"The kids sleep in shifts, and when others are asleep, they are on the streets because there is nowhere else to go," she says, adding the new curfew imposed under the government's state of emergency regulations is simply adding to the pressure.

THIS NEEDS TO BE STOPPED

Watching the Borg
~growing exponentially

And I'm not talking about giving them more room to spread out either.

See the DW thread about polygamy.

I love how the MSM keeps saying OH BUT THEY KILLED OTHER MULSUMS IN JORDAN Guuess they forgot this story??

Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Confessions of Al-Qaida Suspects Who Allegedly Planned Attacks Aired
NewsMax Wires
Tuesday, Apr. 27, 2004
AMMAN, Jordan - Al-Qaida plotted bomb and poison gas attacks against the U.S. Embassy and other targets in Jordan, suspects confessed in a videotape that aired Monday on Jordanian state television. A commentator said the plotters hoped to kill 80,000 people.
One of the alleged conspirators, Azmi al-Jayousi, said he was acting on the orders of Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian wanted by the United States for allegedly organizing terrorists to fight U.S. troops in Iraq on behalf of al-Qaida. U.S. officials have offered a $10 million reward for his capture.
Al-Jayousi, identified as the head of a Jordanian terror cell, said he met al-Zarqawi in neighboring Iraq to plan the attacks.

BOY THAT WOULD HAVE LEFT A MARK??

Lest we not forget that the qu-ran says to kill other mulsums if they wont fight say is one reason??

and another thing that the qu-ran says to kill those who would leave being a mulsum??

with all the different secks vieing for power MY DOG IS BIGGER THAN YOUR DOG??

If mulsums want to live in peace with other they have to reform and better do it fast because the rest of the world is getting really pissed off!!

You see WE LOVE OUR SHORT SKIRTS!!

I think what happen in Jordan was a hit??

done by Iran useing pallis?

OF corse Jordan does not want to admit this but why did 11 in the goverment quit??

NO Like the Democrats in the USA no one wants to believe they would betray their own country??

BUT REAL LIFE IS REAL!!

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/367wlqji.asp
The strangest episode came from an appearance by Senator Jay Rockefeller on Fox News Sunday:
WALLACE: OK. Senator Rockefeller, the president says that Democratic critics, like you, looked at pre-war intelligence and came to the same conclusion that he did. In fact, looking back at the speech that you gave in October of 2002 in which you authorized the use of force, you went further than the president ever did. Let's watch:
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ROCKEFELLER: I do believe that Iraq poses an imminent threat, but I also believe that after September 11th that question is increasingly outdated.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WALLACE: Now, the president never said that Saddam Hussein was an imminent threat. As you saw, you did say that. If anyone hyped the intelligence, isn't it Jay Rockefeller?
ROCKEFELLER: No. I mean, this question is asked a thousand times and I'll be happy to answer it a thousand times. I took a trip by myself in January of 2002 to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria, and I told each of the heads of state that it was my view that George Bush had already made up his mind to go to war against Iraq, that that was a predetermined set course which had taken shape shortly after 9/11. [emphasis added]
What was the second-ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee doing in Syria, a country which perennially finds itself among the top listings of terrorist-sponsoring nations, discussing President Bush's decision-making on the war on terror with Bashar Assad, one of the worst sponsors of terror in the months after 9/11?

I SAY TAKE HIM OUT BACK AND SHOOT HIM LIKE THE TRATIOR HE IS!!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER [ISRAEL] GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE WORLDS EYES GIVE THEM COURAGE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM AMEN

PS
ISLAMIC TERRORIST STILL BURNING FRANCE WHAT IS THE FRENCH GOVERMENT GOING TO DO ??

PAY A TAX YES PAY THEM MORE MONEY CALLED JIZI HOW MANY DAYS 16 OR WAS IT 17??

I ASKED WHEN THE WHITE FLAGS WOULD OME OUT ??

LETS BE REAL NOW IT WAS IRAN WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THESE MONSTERS SETTING FIRES IN EUROPE. EUROPE BETTER GROW SOME BALLS AND ARM YOUR OWN PEOPLE TO FIGHT BACK!!

Is this not verbal jihad? Benbrika would be laughing in his beard; Fehmi is just rubbing it in, what mugs we are, letting his terrorist mate into the country, handing over the dole cheque and Medicare card, feeding his family (he is father of 6)for 10 years. Other recent verbal jihad from sheiks in Oz include a "subtle" reminder that our nearest neighbour (Indonesia) has the largest population of Muslims in the world. That's where they behead schoolgirls and blow people up for wearing bikinis. (Darn, thought we were past that xenophobia thing.)Another paraphrased the Qur'an but twisted it round to criticize anti-terror laws: "the government is striking fear into the hearts of Australians (with these laws)".
A "tiny minority of extremists" across the globe seem to have a "distorted" and "fabricated" idea of jihad.Time for some peaceful, inner jihad. Then maybe blow up a nuclear reactor.

redwine:

The Khomeini quote appears in Amir Taheri's book Holy Terror: Inside the World of Islamic Terrorism. Hope this helps in some way....

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0917561457/103-1847367-0955048

Thanks AngryMuppet, it is a help.

I DARE ANY OF YOU NON-MUSLIMS TO FIND ONE VERSE IN THE KORAN OR HADITH THAT SAYS IT IS OKAY TO KILL WOMEN AND CHILDREN BY NAME. COMPARE IT TO THESE BIBLE VERSES WHERE THE G_D OF ISRAEL TELLS MOSES (THIS WAS NOT AN INSPIRATION BUT A DIRECT COMMAND FROM G_D) TO COMMIT GENOCIDE:

"The LORD said to Moses, 'Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites…. The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps…. (Moses ordered) "Now kill all the boys. And kill every women who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." Numbers 31: 1-18

Deuteronomy 20:13-20
13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword (even the unarmed ones):
14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.
16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:
18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
19 When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe against them: for thou mayest eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down (for the tree of the field is man's life) to employ them in the siege:
20 Only the trees which thou knowest that they be not trees for meat, thou shalt destroy and cut them down; and thou shalt build bulwarks against the city that maketh war with thee, until it be subdued.

In the following verses we see the following:

1- All men, including the unarmed ones, were to be executed (Deuteronomy 20:13).

2- All women and children were to be taken as spoils of war (Deuteronomy 20:14).

3- For the others, kill and destroy every creature that is breathing - that is all men, women, children and animals (Deuteronomy 20:16-17).

:

"All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman. (From the NIV Bible, 2 Chronicles 15:13)"

My open challenge to Jews and Christians:

Jews and Christians today often talk about the lie of "Islamic Terrorism". I openly challenge any Jew or Christian to produce ONE, JUST ONE Noble Verse from the Muslims' Noble Quran that condones killing of innocent children, women or even hostile enemy men who drop their weapons before Muslims (surrender).

See the Rights of Prisoners of War in Islam. http://www.answering-christianity.com/prisoners_of_war.htm

REFUTING THE LIE ABOUT PROPHET FORCING RAPE:

If Prophet Muhammed (peace and blessing be upon him) commanded his followers to forcibly rape the women "the right hand possess" then why do we have this hadith:

Slaves cannot be forced to have sexual intercourse with:
Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah: "Musaykah, a slave-girl of some Ansari, came and said: My master forces me to commit fornication. Thereupon the following verse was revealed: "But force not your maids to SEX when they desire chastity. (24:33)" (Translation of Sunan Abu Dawud, Divorce (Kitab Al-Talaq), Book 12, Number 2304)

NOW COMPARE THIS TO THE BIBLE:

The Quotes and Proofs for Pedophilia Please pay attention to the bolded and underlined parts below:
The following was taken from http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/guido_deimel/judaism.html regarding Numbers 31:17-18 in the Bible:

Numbers 31:17-18 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

Children

Sometimes one has to read a passage twice to believe what has been written in the Sacred Books of Judaism: what has been decreed the way to a holy life by the "sages of blessed memory... whose words are the natural sounds of Judaism" [131]:

Said Rabbi Joseph, "Come and take note: A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse. And if a Levir has had intercourse with her, he has acquired her. And one can be liable on her account because of the law prohibiting intercourse with a married woman. And she imparts uncleanness to him who has intercourse with her when she is menstruating, to convey uncleanness to the lower as to the upper layer [of what lies beneath]. If she was married to a priest, she may eat food in the status of priestly rations. If one of those who are unfit for marriage with her had intercourse with her, he has rendered her unfit to marry into the priesthood. If any of those who are forbidden in the Torah to have intercourse with her had intercourse with her, he is put to death on her account, but she is free of responsibility [M.Nid. 5:4].
Sanhedrin 7/55B [132]

R. Nahman bar Isaac said. "They made the decree that a gentile child should be deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [described at Lev.15], so that an Israelite child should not hang around with him and commit pederasty [as he does]."
For said R. Zira, "I had much anguish with R. Assi, and R. Assi with R. Yohanan, and R. Yohanan with R. Yannai, and R. Yannai with R. Nathan b. Amram, and R. Nathan b. Amram with Rabbi [on this matter]: 'From what age is a gentile child deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [described at Lev.15]'? And he said to me, 'On the day on which he is born.' But when I came to R. Hiyya, he said to me, 'From the age of nine years and one day.' And when I came and laid the matter before Rabbi, he said to me, 'Discard my reply and adopt that of R. Hiyya, who declared, "From what age is a gentile child deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [described at Lev.15]? From the age of nine years and one day."'
[37A] Since he is then suitable for having sexual relations, he also is deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [of Lev.15]."
Said Rabina, "Therefore a gentile girl who is three years and one day old, since she is then suitable to have sexual relations, also imparts uncleanness of the flux variety."
That is self-evident!
Abodah Zarah 36BC-37AD [133]

The basis for these rulings is the following Mishnaic passage of Tractate Niddah (filth):

A girl THREE YEARS OLD AND ONE DAY is betrothed by intercourse. "A girl three years old may be betrothed through an act of sexual intercourse," the words of R. Meir. And sages say, "Three years and one day old."
And if a Levir has had intercourse with her, he has acquired her. And they are liable on her account because of the law prohibiting intercourse with a married woman. And she imparts uncleanness to him who has intercourse with her when she is menstruating to convey uncleanness to the lower as to the upper layer. If she was married to a priest, she eats heave offering. If one of those who are unfit for marriage has intercourse with her, he has rendered her unfit to marry into the priesthood. If one of all those who are forbidden in the Torah to have intercourse with her did so, they are put to death on her account. But she is free of responsibility.
If she is younger than that age, intercourse with her is like putting a finger in the eye.
(Mishnah Niddah 5:4) [134]

Thus, one "of the many important issues worked out in the Mishnah concerns proper conduct with women," [135] and the "entire society of Judaism – that is, the community formed by the Torah – found in the Talmud those modes of thought and inquiry, those media of order and value, that guided the formation of public affairs and private life as well." [136]

While it is reassuring to see there was at least some limit as to what the sages would declare holy and moral, this ruling had severe implications on the interpretation of other topics as well. The Tannaïtic Midrash Sifre to Numbers in §157 comments on the above quoted commandment of Moses to kill the Midianite women as well as the male children:

"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that has known a man by sleeping with him.(Num 31:17).
[This] refers to her who has slept with a man as well as her who is suitable for intercourse, even when she has not slept with a man...
But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves. From here R. Shimon b. Yohai used to say: a Proselyte girl who became a proselyte in the age of less than three years and one day, is rendered fit to marry into the priesthood." [137]

According to the Tannaïte Rabbis, Moses therefore had ordered the Israelites to kill all women older than three years and a day, because they were "suitable for having sexual relations." [138]

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HERE'S THE SOURCES IN CASE YOU THINK I'M LYING
Bibliography:

[131] Ibid., vol.XXI.A-D, Tractate Bava Mesia, Atlanta: Scholars Press 1990, p.ix-x.

[132] Ibid., vol.XXIII.B, Tractate Sanhedrin 1984, 150. See also vol.XIX.A, Tractate Qiddushin 10a-b, 1992, 33. "Menstruating" here of course refers to the ritual "flux uncleanness" described in Lev.15.

[133] Ibid., vol.XXV.A, Tractate Abodah Zarah, 1991, 168. Emphasis original.

[134] J. Neusner, The Talmud of Babylonia. A complete outline, Part IV. The Division of Holy Things. B. Number 37. 1995, 704.

[135] Neusner 1993, 41.

[136] Neusner 1995, 7.

[137] Kuhn 1959, §157, 652f. My translation. In general, proselytes are not allowed to marry into the priesthood.

[138] Ibid., §157, footnote 86, 653.

The following was sent to me by brother Johnny Bravo; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:

Numbers 31:17-18 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

In the Torah (In the Book of Numbers in the Bible), after the conquest of Midian and Moab, and the great venereal plague, Moses (peace be on him) ordered that all the women "who have known a man" be killed but that "all the young girls, who have not known a man by lying with him" be kept alive for the Israelites.

Since the only females left fit for marriage and wholesome relations were prepubescent virgins, a Jewish law concerning child marriage was enacted. That law is found in the Babylonian Talmud:

"Rabbi Joseph said, 'Come and hear. A maiden aged 3 years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition.'

Mishnah: A girl of the age of 3 years and a day may be betrothed, subject to her father's approval, by sexual intercourse.

Gemara: Our Rabbis taught: 'A girl of the age of 3 years may be betrothed by sexual intercourse.' "

IS G_D OF ISRAEL A PEDOPHILE?

Quick side Note:
Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man of which the TRIBUTE TO THE LORD WAS 32 [among them were virgin girls]."

Even though GOD Almighty's share of the 32 virgin girls is metaphoric, meaning that He didn't come down and have sex with them, but if any wants to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile or womanizer for marrying (not forcing into sex) a young girl and marrying multiple women throughout his life, then he should not only call his Biblical Prophets as such, but also the GOD of Israel Himself!

I DARE ANY OF YOU NON-MUSLIMS TO FIND ONE VERSE IN THE KORAN OR HADITH THAT SAYS IT IS OKAY TO KILL WOMEN AND CHILDREN BY NAME. COMPARE IT TO THESE BIBLE VERSES WHERE THE G_D OF ISRAEL TELLS MOSES (THIS WAS NOT AN INSPIRATION BUT A DIRECT COMMAND FROM G_D) TO COMMIT GENOCIDE:

as usual, this is a complete fabrication, as anyone who has read the Hadith of Jihad and expedition knows.

the hadiths state quite clearly that it is perfectly permissible to kill women and children, and Mohammed commands his noble fighters to do just that.

Nowadays the imams simply declare a group of people not to be innocent, so you can kill the women and children. Many clearly state just kill israelis, none are innocent

always that little word "innocent". a nice little modifier. Always available to obfuscate.

Mohammed also like to kill all the men and extract a bounty for all his hard work. His followers did this for 1000 years. spain. egypt. greece. the balkans, Austria (the moslem canons were 20 miles form Vienna when NY was founded) iran.. iraq. israel, turkey, india, afganistan. algeria, tunisia, morocco, northern africa, ghana ( home of Kofi Anan), indonesia, phillipines kill and plunder. kill and plunder. they were making slaves of circassians, all justified under islamic law in the 1600's. Turkey only abolished slavery in 1923. the reader can look up when Saudi Arabia abolished it.

its just a religion of war, which justifies more war for innumerable reasons. The nice high towers where the call to prayer comes from: lookout posts, manned 5 times a day. the Koran clearly states that it is fine to kill, you just have to have a justification. And therein lies the difference: allah directs muslims to murder if justified, hence you have honor killings, to murder if your honor is taken away, and there you have gang warfare among the desert tribes, to murder the unbeleiver, and if you dont murder him, get 50% of all his wealth.

here are the hadiths

KITAB AL-JIHAD WA'L-SIYAR
(THE BOOK OF JIHAD AND EXPEDITION)

Chapter 9 : PERMISSIBILITY OF KILLING WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THE NIGHT RAIDS, PROVIDED IT IS NOT DELIBERATE

Book 19, Number 4321:

It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.

Book 19, Number 4322:

It is narrated by Sa'b b. Jaththama that he said (to the Holy Prophet): Messenger of Allah, we kill the children of the polytheists during the night raids. He said: They are from them.

Book 19, Number 4323:

Sa'b b. Jaththama has narrated that the Prophet (may peace be upon him) asked: What about the children of polytheists killed by the cavalry during the night raid? He said: They are from them.

Chapter 10 : JUSTIFICATION FOR CUTTING DOWN THE TREES AND BURNING THEM

Book 19, Number 4324:

It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) ordered the date-palms of Banu Nadir to be burnt and cut. These palms were at Buwaira. Qutaibah and Ibn Rumh in their versions of the tradition have added: So Allah, the Glorious and Exalted, revealed the verse: "Whatever trees you have cut down or left standing on their trunks, it was with the permission of Allah so that He may disgrace the evil-doers" (lix. 5).

Book 19, Number 4325:

It is narrated on the authority of Ibn Umar that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) caused the date-palms of Banu Nadir to be cut down and burnt. It is in this connection that Hassan (the poet) said:

It was easy for the nobles of Quraish to barn Buwaira whose sparks were flying in all directions.

in the same connection was revealed the Qur'anic verse: "Whatever trees you have cut down or left standing on their trunks."

Book 19, Number 4326:

'Abdullah b. Umar reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) burnt the date-palms of Banu Nadir.

Chapter 11 : THE SPOILS OF WAR ESPECIALLY MADE LAWFUL FOR THIS UMMA

Book 19, Number 4327:

It has been narrated by Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: One of the Prophets made a holy war. He said to his followers: One who has married a woman and wants to consummate to his marriage but has not yet done so; another who has built a house but has not yet erected its roof; and another who has bought goats and pregnantshe-camels and is waiting for their offspring-will not accommpany me. So he marched on and approached a village at or about the time of the Asr prayers. He said to the sun: Thou art subserviant (to Allah) and so am I. O Allah, stop it for me a little. It was stopped for him until Allah granted him victory. The people gathered the spoils of war (at one place). A fire approached the spoils to devour them, but it did not devour them. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Some of you have been guilty of misappropriation. So one man from each tribe should swear fealty to me. The did so (putting their hands into his). The hand of one man stuck to his hand and the Prophet (may peace be upon him) said: Your tribe is guilty of misappropriation. Let all the members of your tribe swear fealty to me one by one. They did so, when the hands of two or three persons got stuck with his hand. He said: You have misappropriated. So they took out gold equal in volume to the head of a cow. They-placed it among the spoils on the earth. Then the fire approached the spoils and devoured them. The spoils of war were not made lawful for any people before us, This is because Allah saw our weakness and humility and made them lawful for us.

Chapter 12 : SPOILS OF WAR

Book 19, Number 4328:

A hadith has been narrated by Mus'ab b. Sa'd who heard it from his father as saying: My father took a sword from Khums and brought it to the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) and said: Grant it to me. He refused. At this Allah revealed (the Qur'anic verse): "They ask thee concerning the spoils of war. Say: The spoils of war are for Allah and the Apostle" (viii. 1).

Book 19, Number 4329:

A hadith has been narrated by Mus'ab b. Sa'd who heard it from his father as saying: "Four verses of the Qur'an have been revealed about me. I found a sword (among the spoils of war). It was brought to the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him). He (my father) said: Messenger of Allah, bestow it upon me. The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Place it there. Then he (my father) stood up and the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said to him: Place it from where you got it. (At this) he (my father) said again: Messenger of Allah, bestow it upon me Shall I be treated like one who has no share in (the booty) ? The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him said: Place it from where you got it. At this was revealed the verse: "They ask thee about the spoils of war.... Say: The spoils of war are for Allah and the Messenger "

Book 19, Number 4330:

It has been narrated on the authority of Ibn Umar that the Prophet (may peace be upon him) sent an expedition to Najd and I was among the troops. They got a large number of camels as a booty. Eleven or twelve camels fell to the lot of every fighter and each of them also got one extra camel.

Book 19, Number 4331:

Ibn 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an expedition to Najd and Ibn Umar was also among the troops, and their share (of the spoils) came to twelve camels and they were given one camel over and above that. and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) did not make any change in it.

Book 19, Number 4332:

It has been narrated by Ibn 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent an expedition to Najd, and I (also) went with the troops. We got camels and goats as spoils of war, and our share amounted to twelve camels per head, and the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) gave an extra camel to each of us.

Book 19, Number 4333:

This hadith has been narrated on the authority of 'Ubaidullah with the same chain of transmitters.

Book 19, Number 4334:

Ibn Aun said: I wrote to Nafi' asking him about Nafl (spoils of war) and be wrote to me that Ibn 'Umar was among that expedition. (The rest of the hadith is the same.)

Book 19, Number 4335:

A hadith has been narrated by Salim who learnt it from his father and said: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) gave us an extra (camel) besides our share of Khums; (and in this extra share) I got a Sharif (and a Sharif is a big old camel).

Book 19, Number 4336:

Ibn Shihab reported: It reached me through Ibn Umar that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) gave a share of spoils to the troop. The rest of the hadith is the same.

Book 19, Number 4337:

It has been narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used to give (from the spoils of war) to small troops seat on expeditions something more than the due share of each fighter in a large force. And Khums (one-fifth of the total spoils) was to be reserved (for Allah and His Apostle) in all cases.

Book 19, Number 4338:

Abu Muammad al-Ansari, who was the close companion of Abu Qatada. narrated the hadith (which follows).

Book 19, Number 4339:

Abu Muhammad, the freed slave of Abu Qatada reported on the authority of Abu Qatda and narrated the hadith.

Chapter 13 : REGARDING THE RIGHT OF THE FIGHTER TO THE BELONGINGS OF THE ONE KILLED BY HIM IN THE FIGHT

Book 19, Number 4340:

Abu Qatada reported: We accompanied the Messenger of Allah (my peace be upon him) on an expedition in the year of the Battle of Hunain. When we encountered the enemy, (some of the Muslims turned back (in fear). I saw that a man from the polytheists overpowered one of the Muslims. I turned round and attacked him from behind giving a blow between his neck and shoulder. He turned towards me and grappled with me in such a way that I began to see death staring me in the face. Then death overtook him and left me alone. I joined 'Umar b. al-Khattab who was saying: What has happened to the people (that they are retreating)? I said: It is the Decree of Allah. Then the people returned. (The battle ended in a victory for the Muslims) and the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) sat down (to distribute the spoils of war). He said: One who has killed an enemy and can bring evidence to prove it will get his belongings. So I stood up and said: Who will give evidence for me? Then I sat down. Then he (the Holy Prophet) said like this. I stood up (again) and said: Who will bear witness for me? He (the Holy Prophet) made the same observation the third time, and I stood up (once again). Now the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: What has happened to you, O Abu Qatada? Then I related the (whole) story, to him. At this, one of the people said: He has told the truth. Messenger of Allah 1 The belongings of the enemy killed by him are with me. Persuade him to forgo his right (in my favour). (Objecting to this proposal) Abu Bakr said: BY Allah, this will not happen. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) will not like to deprive one of the lions from among the lions of Allah who fight in the cause of Allah and His Messenger and give thee his share of the booty. So the Messenger of Allah (may peace he upon him) said: He (Abu Bakr) has told the truth, and so give the belongings to him (Abu Qatada). So he gave them to me. I sold the armour (which was a part of my share of the booty) and bought with the sale proceeds a garden in the street of Banu Salama. This was the first property I acquired after embracing Islam.
In a version of the hadith narrated by Laith, the words uttered by Abu Bakr are: "No, never ! He will not give it to a fox from the Quraish leaving aside a lion from the lions of Allah among. . . ." And the hadith is closed with the words: "The first property I acquired."

Book 19, Number 4341:

It has been narrated on the authority of 'Abd al-Rahman b. Auf who said: While I was standing in the battle array on the Day of Badr, I looked towards my right and my left, and found myself between two boys from the Ansar quite young in age. I wished I were between stronger persons. One of them made a sign to me and. said: Uncle, do you recognise Abu Jahl? 1 said: Yes. What do you want to do with him, O my nephew? He said: I have been told that he abuses the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). By Allah, in Whose Hand is my life, if I see him (I will grapple with him) and will not leave him until one of us who is destined to die earlier is killed. The narrator said: I wondered at this. Then the other made a sign to me and said similar words. Soon after I saw Abu Jahl. He was moving about among men. I said to the two boys: Don't you see? He is the man you were inquiring about. (As soon as they heard this), they dashed towards him, struck him with their swords until he was killed. Then they returned to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and informed him (to this effect). He asked: Which of you has killed him? Each one of them said: I have killed him. He said: Have you wiped your swords? They said: No. He examined their swords and said: Both of you have killed him. He then decided that the belongings of Abu Jahl he handed over to Mu'adh b. Amr b. al-Jamuh. And the two boys were Mu'adh b. Amr b. Jawth and Mu'adh b. Afra.

Book 19, Number 4342:

Auf b. Malik has narrated that a man from the Himyar tribe killed an enemy and wanted to take the booty. Khalid b. Walid, who was the commander over them, forbade, him. 'Auf b Malik (the narrator) came to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and informed him (to this effect). The latter asked Khalid: What prevented you from giving the booty to him? Khalid said: I thought it was too much. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Hand it over to him. Now when Khalid by Auf, the latter pulled him by his cloak and said (by way of chafing him): Hasn't the same thing happened what I reported to you from the Messenger of Allah (may peace he upon him)? When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) heard it. he was angry (and said): Khalid, don't give him, Khalid, don't give him. Are you going to desert the commanders appointed by roe? Your similitude and theirs is like a person who took camels and sheep for grazing. He grazed them and when it was time for them to have a drink, he brought them to a pool. So they drank from it, drinking away its clear water and leaving the turbid water below So the clear water (i.e. the best reward) is for you and the turbid water (i e. blame) is for them.

Book 19, Number 4343:

It has been narrated on the authority of Auf b. Malik al-Ashja'i who said: I joined the expedition that marched under Zaid b. Haritha to Muta, and I received reinformcement from the Yemen. (After this introduction), the narrator narrated the tradition that had gone before except that in his version Auf was reported to have said (to Khalid): Khalid, didn't you know that the Messenger of Allah (way peace be upon him) had decided In favour of giving the booty (sized from an enemy) to one who killed him? He (Khalid) said: Yes. but I thought it was too much.

Book 19, Number 4344:

It has been reported by Salama b. al-Akwa': We fought the Battle of Hawazin along with the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). (One day) when we were having our breakfast with the Messenger of Allah (may peace he upon him), a man came riding a red camel. He made it kneel down, extracted a strip of leather from its girth and tethered the camel with it. Then he began to take food with the people and look (curiously around). We were in a poor condition as some of us were on foot (being without any riding animals). All of a sudden, he left us hurriedy, came to his camel, untethered it, made it kneel down, mounted it and urged the beast which ran off with him. A man on a brown rhe-camel chased him (taking him for a spy). Salama (the narrator) said: I followed on foot. I ran on until I was near the thigh of the she-camel. I advanced further until I was near the haunches of the camel. I advanced still further until I caught hold of the nosestring of the camel. I made it kneel down. As soon as it placed its knee on the ground, I drew my sword and struck at the head, of the rider who fell down. I brought the camel driving it along with the man's baggage and weapons. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) came forward to meet me and the people were with him. He asked: Who has killed the man? The people said: Ibn Akwa'. He said: Everything of the man is for him (Ibn Akwa').

Chapter 14 : ADDITIONAL AWARD TO THE FIGHTERS AND REPATRIATION OF THE ENEMY PRISONERS AS A RANSOM FOR THE MUSLIMS

Book 19, Number 4345:

It has been narrated on the authority of Salama (b. al-Akwa') who said: We fought against the Fazara and Abu Bakr was the commander over us. He had been appointed by the Messenger oi Allah (may peace be upon him). When we were onlv at an hour's distance from the water of the enemy, Abu Bakr ordered us to attack. We made a halt during the last part of the night tor rest and then we attacked from all sides and reached their watering-place where a battle was fought. Some of the enemies were killed and some were taken prisoners. I saw a group of persons that consisted of women and children. I was afraid lest they should reach the mountain before me, so I shot an arrow between them and the mountain. When they saw the arrow, they stopped. So I brought them, driving them along. Among them was a woman from Banu Fazara. She was wearing a leather coat. With her was her daughter who was one of the prettiest girls in Arabia. I drove them along until I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that girl upon me as a prize. So we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) met me in the street and said: Give me that girl, O Salama. I said: Messenger of Allah, she has fascinated me. I had not yet disrobed her. When on the next day. the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) ag;tin met me in the street, he said: O Salama, give me that girl, may God bless your father. I said: She is for you. Messenger of Allah ! By Allah. I have not yet disrobed her. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent her to the people of Mecca, and surrendered her as ransom for a number of Muslims who had been kept as prisoners at Mecca.

Chapter 15 : FAI' (PROPERTY TAKEN FROM THE ENEMY WITHOUT A FORMAL WAR)

Book 19, Number 4346:

It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: If you come to a township (which has surrendered without a formal war) and stay therein, you have a share (that will be in the form of an award) in (the properties obtained from) it. If a township disobeys Allah and His Messenger (and actually fights against the Muslims) one-fifth of the booty seized therefrom is for Allah and His Apostle and the rest is for you.

Book 19, Number 4347:

It has been narrated on the authority of Umar, who said: The properties abandoned by Banu Nadir were the ones which Allah bestowed upon His Apostle for which no expedition was undertaken either with cavalry or camelry. These properties were particularly meant for the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him). He would meet the annual expenditure of his family from the income thereof, and would spend what remained for purchasing horses and weapons as preparation for Jihad.

Book 19, Number 4348:

This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Zuhri.

Book 19, Number 4349:

It is reported by Zuhri that this tradition was narrated to him by Malik b. Aus who said: Umar b. al-Khattab sent for me and I came to him when the day had advanced. I found him in his house sitting on his bare bed-stead, reclining on a leather pillow. He said (to me): Malik, some people of your tribe have hastened to me (with a request for help). I have ordered a little money for them. Take it and distribute it among them. I said: I wish you had ordered somebody else to do this job. He said: Malik, take it (and do what you have been told). At this moment (his man-servant) Yarfa' came in and said: Commander of the Faithful, what do you say about Uthman, Abd al-Rabman b. 'Auf, Zubair and Sa'd (who have come to seek an audience with you)? He said: Yes, and permitted them. so they entered. Then he (Yarfa') came again and said: What do you say about 'Ali and Abbas (who are present at the door)? He said: Yes, and permitted them to enter. Abbas said: Commander of the Faithful, decide (the dispute) between me and this sinful, treacherous, dishonest liar. The people (who were present) also said: Yes. Commander of the Faithful, do decide (the dispute) and have mercy on them. Malik b. Aus said: I could well imagine that they had sent them in advance for this purpose (by 'Ali and Abbas).'Umar said: Wait and be patient. I adjure you by Allah by Whose order the heavens and the earth are sustained, don't you know that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: "We (prophets) do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is (to be given in) charity"? They said: Yes. Then he turned to Abbas and 'Ali and said: I adjure you both by Allah by Whose order the heavens and earth are sustained, don't you know that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:"We do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is (to be given in) charity"? They (too) said: Yes. (Then) Umar said: Allah, the Glorious and Exalted, had done to His Messenger (may peace be upon him) a special favour that He has not done to anyone else except him. He quoted the Qur'anic verse: "What Allah has bestowed upon His Apostle from (the properties) of the people of township is for Allah and His Messenger". The narrator said: I do not know whether he also recited the previous verse or not. Umar continued: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) distrbuted among you the properties abandoned by Banu Nadir. By Allah, he never preferred himself over you and never appropriated anything to your exclusion. (After a fair distribution in this way) this property was left over. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) would meet from its income his annual expenditure, and what remained would be deposited in the Bait-ul-Mal. (Continuing further) he said: I adjure you by Allah by Whose order the heavens and the earth are sustained. Do you know this? They said: Yes. Then he adjured Abbas and 'All as he had adjured the other persons and asked: Do you both know this? They said: Yes. He said: When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) passed away, Abu Bakr said: "I am the successor of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)." Both of you came to demand your shares from the property (left behind by the Messenger of Allah). (Referring to Hadrat 'Abbas), he said: You demanded your share from the property of your nephew, and he (referring to 'Ali) demanded a share on behalf of his wife from the property of her father. Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) had said: "We do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is (to be given in) charity." So both of you thought him to be a liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest. And Allah knows that he was true, virtuous, well-guided and a follower of truth. When Abu Bakr passed away and (I have become) the successor of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him), you thought me to be a liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest. And Allah knows that I am true, virtuous, well-guided and a follower of truth. I became the guardian of this property. Then you as well as he came to me. Both of you have come and your purpose is identical. You said: Entrust the property to us. I said: If you wish that I should entrust it to you, it will be on the condition that both of you will undertake to abide by a pledge made with Allah that you will use it in the same way as the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used it. So both of you got it. He said: Wasn't it like this ? They said: Yes. He said: Then you have (again) come to me with the request that I should adjudge between you. No, by Allah. I will not give any other judgment except this until the arrival of the Doomsday. If you are unable to hold the property on this condition, return it to me.

Book 19, Number 4350:

The same hadith has been narrated by a different chain of transmitters with a slight variation in wording: 'Umar b. al-Khattab sent for me and said: Some families from your tribe have come to me (then follows the foregoing hadith) by Malik with the difference that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) would spend on his family for a year. And sometimes Ma'mar said: He would retain sustenance for his family for a year, and what was left of that he spent in the cause of Allah, the Majestic and Exalted.

Chapter 16 : THE SAYING OF THE PROPHET (MAY PEACE BE UPON HIM): "WE (PROPHETS) DO NOT HAVE ANY HEIRS; WHAT WE LEAVE BEHIND IS (TO BE GIVEN IN) CHARITY"

Book 19, Number 4351:

It is narrated on the authority of 'A'isha who said: When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) passed away, his wives made up their minds to send 'Uthman b. 'Affan (as their spokesman) to Abu Bakr to demand from him their share from the legacy of the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him). (At this), A'isha said to them: Hasn't the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: "We (Prophets) do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is (to be given in) charity"?

Book 19, Number 4352:

It is narrated on the authority of Urwa b. Zubair who narrated from A'isha that she informed him that Fatima, daughter of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), sent someone to Abu Bakr to demand from him her share of the legacy left by the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) from what Allah had bestowed upon him at Medina and Fadak and what was left from one-filth of the income (annually received) from Khaibar. Abu Bakr said: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: "We (prophets) do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is (to be given in) charity." The household of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) will live on the income from these properties, but, by Allah, I will not change the charity of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) from the condition in which it was in his own time. I will do the same with it as the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upun him) himself used to do. So Abu Bakr refused to hand over anything from it to Fatima who got angry with Abu Bakr for this reason. She forsook him and did not talk to him until the end of her life. She lived for six months after the death of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). When she died, her husband. 'Ali b. Abu Talib, buried her at night. He did not inform Abu Bakr about her death and offered the funeral prayer over her himself. During the lifetime of Fatima, 'All received (special) regard from the people. After she had died, he felt estrangement in the faces of the people towards him. So he sought to make peace with Abu Bakr and offer his allegiance to him. He had not yet owed allegiance to him as Caliph during these months. He sent a person to Abu Bakr requesting him to visit him unaccompanied by anyone (disapproving the presence of Umar). 'Umar said to Abu Bakr: BY Allah, you will not visit them alone. Abu Bakr said: What will they do to me? By Allah, I will visit them. And he did pay them a visit alone. 'All recited Tashahhud (as it is done in the beginning of a religious sermon); then said: We recognise your moral excellence and what Allah has bestowed upon you. We do not envy the favour (i.e. the Catiphate) which Allah nas conferred upon you; but you have done it (assumed the position of Caliph) alone (without consulting us), and we thought we had a right (to be consulted) on account of our kinship with the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). He continued to talk to Abu Bakr (in this vein) until the latter's eyes welled up with tears. Then Abd Bakr spoke and said: By Allah, in Whose Hand is my life, the kinship of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) is dearer to me than the kinship of my own people. As regards the dispute that has arisen between you and me about these properties, I have not deviated from the right course and I have not given up doing about them what the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used to do. So 'Ali said to Abu Bakr: This aftetnoon is (fixed) for (swearing) allegiance (to you). So when Abu Bakr had finished his Zuhr prayer, he ascended the pulpit and recited Tashahhud, and described the status of 'Ali, his delay in swearing allegiance and the excuse which lie had offered to him (for this delay). (After this) he asked for God's forgiveness. Then 'Ali b. Abu Talib recited the Tashahhud. extolled the merits of Abu Bakr and (said that) his action was nott prompted by any jealousy of Abu Bakr on his part or his refusal to accept the high position which Allah had conferred upon him, (adding :) But we were of the opinion that we should have a share in the government, but the matter had been decided without taking us into confidence, and this displeased us. (Hence the delay in offering allegiance. The Muslims were pleased with this (explanation) and they said: You have done the right thing. The Muslims were (again) favourably inclined to 'Ali since he adopted the proper course of action.

Book 19, Number 4353:

It has been narrated on the authority of 'A'isha that Fatima and 'Abbas approached Abu Bakr, soliciting transfer of the legacy of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) to them. At that time, they were demanding his (Holy Prophet's) lands at Fadak and his share from Khaibar. Abu Bakr said to them: I have heard from the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). Then he quoted the hadith having nearly the same meaning as the one which has been narrated by Uqail on the authority of al-Zuhri (and which his gone before) except that in his version he said : Then 'Ali stood up, extolled the merits of Abu Bakr mentioned his superiority, and his earlier acceptance of Islam. Then he walked to Abu Bakr and swore allegiance to him. (At this) people turned towards 'Ali and said: you have done the right thing. And they became favourably inclined to 'Ali after he had adopted the proper course of action.

here is a short list of the works of the religion that denies peace in past few weeks:

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
10/8/05 Iraq Baghdad 7 16 Fedayeen suicide bomber murders seven people on a city street. Sixteen others are injured in the blast.
10/7/05 India Briswana 1 0 A civilian is killed inside his home by the Mujahideen.
10/7/05 Iraq Kirkuk 3 11 Jihadi car bomb kills three civilians.
10/7/05 Thailand Yala 1 0 Radicals kill the driver of a police chief.
10/7/05 Pakistan Mong 8 19 Sectarian attack on a crowd of people by gunmen at a mosque for a minority Islamic group leaves eight dead and nineteen injured.
10/7/05 India Sapore 2 6 A small girl is among two killed by a Mujahideen grenade blast in a terror attack.
10/6/05 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 Suicide bomber blows himself to Allah, taking two innocent women with him.
10/6/05 Thailand Narathiwat 5 2 Islamic militants shoot five Thai soldiers to death as they are eating dinner at a remote outpost.
10/6/05 Iraq Baghdad 10 8 Ten Iraqis riding a bus are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber. Eight others are badly injured.
10/6/05 Pakistan Datta Kheil 3 0 al-Qaeda militants fire a rocket into a house, killing a man and his young son and daughter.
10/6/05 India Dooru 1 5 Hizb-ul-Mujahideen terrorists detonate a bomb under a bank truck, killing the driver.
10/6/05 Thailand Narathiwat 1 10 Two bombs are set off by Muslim terrorists at a restaurant, killing one and injuring ten.
10/6/05 Iraq Karma 6 0 Six U.S. Marines are killed in two roadside bombing terror attacks.
10/6/05 Algeria Messila 2 0 Two civilians are killed in a car bombing.
10/6/05 India Anantnag 2 0 Two people are taken from their homes and murdered by the Mujahideen.
10/5/05 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 3 A 'Holy Warrior for Allah' manages to kill a 10-year-old boy in a suicide bombing.
10/5/05 Iraq Hillah 36 95 At least three dozen Shiites are killed and nearly one-hundred others injured by a suicide bomber at a mosque during a funeral service.
10/5/05 India Gumeri 3 0 Hizb-ul-Mujahideen cadres enter a residence and kill a man along with his 21-year-old daughter and 16-year-old son. Another son had been killed last year.
10/5/05 Thailand Yala 1 0 A civilian is abducted and beheaded by Muslim terrorists.
10/4/05 India Budgam 3 0 The Mujahideen kill two counter-insurgents in an attack and also abduct and kill a civilian in Kulgam.
10/4/05 Afghanistan Spin Buldak 6 16 Six Afghans are killed by a Taliban bomb at a border crossing. Sixteen others are injured.
10/4/05 Iraq Baghdad 3 6 Ramadan in Iraq begins with a suicide car bombing inside the Green Zone that kills three people.
10/3/05 Iraq Baghdad 3 2 An attempted assassination of an oil minister leaves his two bodyguards dead. A Jihad attack from the day before killed the director of public works.
10/3/05 Bangladesh Laxmipu 2 40 Members of Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen stage a series of bombing attacks that kill at least two people and injure forty.
10/3/05 India Shopian 1 0 Terrorists abduct a civilian and murder him in captivity.
10/2/05 Pakistan Mir Ali 3 8 al-Qaeda militants kill three Pakistani security personnel in a rocket attack.
10/2/05 Bangladesh Atkhira 2 3 Militants hurl homemade bombs at a group of civilians in a fish market, killing two and injuring three.
10/2/05 Pakistan Zha Gundai 1 1 The son of a pro-government tribal leader is gunned down by al-Qaeda militants.
10/2/05 USA Norman, OK 0 0 American Jihadi straps explosives to his body and heads to a crowded stadium. He changes his mind at the last moment and only kills himself.
10/2/05 India Bhalna 1 0 A civilian is murdered by a Harkat-ul-Jehad-i-Islami terrorist.
10/2/05 Thailand Songkhla 2 3 Two bomb squad inspectors are killed in a remote-controlled explosion courtesy of Islamic terrorists.
10/1/05 Chechnya Shatoi 1 2 Jihad rebels blow apart a troop transport, killing one soldier and injuring two others.
10/1/05 Indonesia Bali 19 132 Islamic suicide bombers murder nineteen people, mostly tourists, at two cafes and a restaurant in three coordinated attacks. Over one-hundred are injured.
9/30/05 Iraq Hilla 9 47 Nine Shia civilians are blown to bits by a morning car bomb at a vegetable market. Nearly fifty others are injured.
9/30/05 India Somboora 2 0 The Mujahideen invade a home and kill a young girl. Another civilian is killed elsewhere (Kulgam).
9/30/05 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two Chinese street vendors are killed in a drive-by shooting by Islamists on motorcycles.
9/30/05 Thailand Yala 1 5 Terrorists ambush a police patrol, killing one and injuring five.
9/29/05 Iraq Baghdad 4 8 In two attacks, Sunni gunmen machine-gun workers at a Shia bakery as well as a van carrying soccer-stadium employees. Four people are murdered.
9/29/05 Pakistan Angore Adda 1 0 A civilian has his throat slit by al-Qaeda militants.
9/29/05 Pakistan Karim Kut 5 0 al-Qaeda terrorists stage an attack on a vehicle carrying government officials, killing five.
9/29/05 Iraq Balad 99 124 About one-hundred people are massacred in three separate suicide attacks by Sunni fanatics. Most were at a vegetable market or near a bank. The third was near a clothing shop. Many more are injured, most with burns - some with missing limbs.
9/29/05 Chechnya Grozny 3 1 Mujahideen gunmen open up on a car, killing two police officers and a 3-year-old girl. The girl's mother suffered injury.
9/29/05 India Srinagar 0 19 Fifteen civilians and four security personnel are injured when a Muslim militant hurls a grenade into a crowd.
9/29/05 India Alal 1 0 Islamic militants abduct a civilian and beat him to death.
9/28/05 Iraq Ramadi 5 0 Five American soldiers are killed in a senseless roadside bombing by Islamic terrorists.
9/28/05 India Nasu 2 0 A civlian is killed in his home by Islamic militants and another (in Thom Gali) is abducted and executed.
9/28/05 India Malad 2 1 Hizb-ul-Mujahideen terrorists invade a home and take a family of four hostage during a shoot-out with police. A mother and daughter are killed.

for the rest of the previos posters post, I cant say. I didnt know the Talmud was in English, and any translation he is using is likely circumspect.

the otehr difference of course is that Khomeini supported marrying off three year olds. in 1985.
I would like to know how many three year olds in England were married off in nice jewish families

Take a long, hard look at yourself, sheik says

I did take a look at the picture of the shiekh, and it is not a pleasant sight.

I'll trust my lying eyes everytime. The lessons of history and contemporary world events show that this man's words are deceptive. Perhaps he truly believes what he is saying, but events, past and present the lack of veracity of his statements. The danger is that the untutored in Islam and disinsterested in world events, could easily be swayed by his words. And many of the non-skeptical take anything they are told at face value.

The cleric and all others that bemoan violent jihad deceptively fail to mention that violence has many faces. Violence is psychological, spiritual, and even social. Da'wa, the spread of Islam is in itself Jihad, and results in violence against non-Muslims and less observant Muslims.

"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
-- posted by God in Koran 9:5

PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH

What the good Sheik means is that you should listen to him, not to God or Mohammed.

The Sheik is only saying what's good enough for gullibles like Tim Russert and Bill O'Reilly is certainly good enough for 20 million Australians. Minus, of course, however many Oz Moslems there are. They know the real score.

5 times a day and a tank full every Friday afternoon.

I STILL DON'T SEE A DIRECT VERSE FROM GOD SAYING IT IS OKAY WHEN YOU HAVE CAPTURED WOMEN OR CHILDREN AND THEY ARE AT UR MERCY TO KILL THEM DIRECTLY:

THESE BIBLE VERSES WHERE THE G_D OF ISRAEL TELLS MOSES (THIS WAS NOT AN INSPIRATION BUT A DIRECT COMMAND FROM G_D) TO COMMIT GENOCIDE:

"The LORD said to Moses, 'Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites…. The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps…. (Moses ordered) "Now kill all the boys. And kill every women who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." Numbers 31: 1-18

Deuteronomy 20:13-20
13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword (even the unarmed ones):
14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.
16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:
18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
19 When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe against them: for thou mayest eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down (for the tree of the field is man's life) to employ them in the siege:
20 Only the trees which thou knowest that they be not trees for meat, thou shalt destroy and cut them down; and thou shalt build bulwarks against the city that maketh war with thee, until it be subdued.

In the following verses we see the following:

1- All men, including the unarmed ones, were to be executed (Deuteronomy 20:13).

2- All women and children were to be taken as spoils of war (Deuteronomy 20:14).

3- For the others, kill and destroy every creature that is breathing - that is all men, women, children and animals (Deuteronomy 20:16-17).

:

"All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman. (From the NIV Bible, 2 Chronicles 15:13)"

ITS EVEN OKAY TO KILL BABIES

1- Suckling infants were executed by the tens of thousands:

1 Samuel 15:2-4
2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

A praise for dashing little children against rocks as a form of revenge:

Psalm 137:8-9
8 O daughter of Babylon, O destroyed one, O the happiness of him who repayeth to thee thy deed, That thou hast done to us.
9 O the happiness of him who doth seize, And hath dashed thy sucklings on the rock!

I find it to be absolutely ridiculous that the bible feeds us all kinds of lies and contradictions about "love your enemy", and yet, we see mass slaughter of suckling infants and innocent boys, girls, unarmed men, women (old and young), and innocent domestic farm animals by the tens of thousands! It is clear that the inconsistent man-altered, man-corrupted and morally corrupt bible is nothing but a false book, and can not be a Divine and Perfect Holy Book!

TO sheik yer'mami YOUR SUCH A HYPOCRITE, IT SHOWS HOW UR JUST AGAINST RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE BEING COMMITED BY ISLAM, BUT WHEN TERROR AND INTOLERANCE IS BEING COMMITTED BY ANY OTHER RELIGIOUS GROUP YOU TURN A BLIND EYE.

BUT YOUR WRONG, CHRISTIANS HAVEN'T EVOLVED YET AND THERE ARE CHRISTIAN TERRORISTS :

THE LORD'S RESISTENCE ARMY(LRA) AND HERE'S AN ARTICLE ABOUT THEIR BRUTALITY WITH THIS NOTABLE POINT (BY THE WAY DON'T TELL ME THE BIBLE DOESN'T JUSTIFY VIOLENCE BECAUSE JESUS EVEN SAID:
Matthew 10.34-35

34. Think not that I(Jesus) come to SEND PEACE on earth. I came NOT to send peace, but a SWORD.

35. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.

"The LRA is also accused of killing and mutilating thousands more. In one particularly brutal incident they kidnapped 50 men, women and children that they said had betrayed them to the government. They cut off the nose, ears, mouth and arms of each one.
The LRA's leader Joseph Kony says he wants a government based on the Ten Commandments.
At its peak strength in the mid- to late 1990s, the LRA was estimated to have as many as 30,000 troops, split into three "divisions": the FATHER, the SON and the HOLY SPIRIT. "

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Day One: Fifty-thousand Ugandans become refugees every night, fleeing the Lord's Resistance Army.
The hazy Ugandan moon makes them looks like zombies -- ragged shadows, shuffling down a dirt road -- and the years of fear and insecurity, ritualized by this nightly trek, may have indeed killed a little part them.
Nancy Akwon has been coming to the shelter of this girls' school every night for the past 15 years. She has nine children now and before darkness falls they walk the three kilometers here for nothing more than a cold, concrete floor and peace of mind.
They have good reason to make this nightly journey. In 1991 the notorious Ugandan rebel group that calls itself the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) abducted her seven-year-old son. She says she hasn't seen him since.
"I think he's dead," she says, rocking her youngest child in her arms. "I told myself I would never let that happen to any of my other children, which is why we come here every night."
It's called "night commuting" -- and because of the LRA's activities here and the government's anti-insurgency campaign -- it has become a nearly institutionalized phenomenon.
An estimated 50,000 Ugandans (30,000 of them children) from four northern regions walk from their homes in outlying rural areas to what they consider safer urban centers, like the city of Kitgum. They sleep in tents, schools, porches or verandas -- wherever they can find a place to lay their heads.
Cornelius Williams is the head of UNICEF's Kitgum office. The organization supports nine of 17 different night commuter shelters with tents, fences and other supplies. But Williams says it's not the best way to deal with the problem.
"It's a coping strategy," he says, "and it has not led to a stable situation. Basically, it shows the failure of the state to provide security. And the people are voting with their feet."
The insecurity stems directly from the strategy and tactics of the LRA, one of Africa's strangest and most brutal insurgent groups. In the past two decades the LRA are charged with abducting as many as 25,000 children and forcing them to join their ranks as soldiers, servants or even sex slaves. Of that number 7,500 have been girls, 1,000 returning to their families pregnant and forever stigmatized by their abductions.
The LRA is also accused of killing and mutilating thousands more. In one particularly brutal incident they kidnapped 50 men, women and children that they said had betrayed them to the government. They cut off the nose, ears, mouth and arms of each one.
The LRA's leader Joseph Kony says he wants a government based on the Ten Commandments.

At its peak strength in the mid- to late 1990s, the LRA was estimated to have as many as 30,000 troops, split into three "divisions": the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Despite Kony's claims of faith and his persecution of practitioners of traditional witchcraft, he has managed to meld elements of both into his movement. Christian prayers and African amulets, bibles and animist spells mix together in a mystical alchemy of terror.
Julina Away says the LRA came to her home in the Kitgum district one night in 1990. She says they forced her, her husband and eight-year-old son Jeffrey on a grueling two-week march. She says the LRA killed her husband, then beat her.
"They stomped on me with their boots until I became unconscious, and then they left me for dead," she says. When she finally regained consciousness they were gone, she says, along with her son. She never saw him again.
But now she comes to the UNICEF tent shelters at the girls' school, with her daughter Concy, 21, and Concy's two-year-old daughter, Regan. Three generations of Julina's family, now forced to into a life of night commuting.
"It destroys the rhythm of the families," says Frederick Ajok, manager of the shelter. "In our culture parents spend the evenings with their children, talking with them, teaching them -- but many children come here by themselves, and if a parent is commuting, too, they're exhausted. The kids end up unsupervised."
At another night commuter shelter at St. Joseph's Hospital, two miles away, Ajok's statements seem somewhat true. A band of about 20 boys runs around the grounds, yelling and making noise at 10 p.m., while others try to sleep anywhere they can. When the boys see the light on my camera they run up to me. They all want, naturally, to take a look and receive any kind of adult attention in their young lives, lives that have become dominated by their peers rather than parents. It reminds me of a Northern Ugandan version of "Lord of the Flies."
The boys disrupt the open-air night school class being taught by Alex Kalokwera, who looks tired after teaching full-time during the day and coming here in the evening. He gets paid 3,000 Ugandan shillings, the equivalent of $1.50, for three hours of work each night. "I don't do it for the money," he says. "I do it for the children of Uganda. They need this. Their lives are disrupted enough."
UNICEF's Williams says there are still serious issues of fear and insecurity from the LRA that motivate the night commuters to make their journey, but he says there are other reasons, too.
"People sometimes want privacy," says Williams. "The thuckles (traditional grass huts) are crowded. The parents may want to have it to themselves one night, and the kids are told to go to the shelter. Others are looking for jobs from out of town and need a free place to stay. And a lot of kids use (the shelters) as a way to get away from the parents, to see their friends, get drunk and look for trouble."
Williams says many incidents of violence, even sexual assault, have occurred in the shelters. The very place where young women and girls go for protection could be the same place that houses their potential predators.
So Williams says UNICEF got involved with the shelters that had the most violent histories. "We fenced them off and created true safe havens, both physically and psychologically," he says.
Troublemakers are now screened out by appointed night commuter leaders in each tent or building. There is also an attempt to force continuity and routine on this lifestyle of nomadic instability. For example, at UNICEF shelters commuters sleep in the same location every night. That way they know exactly who belongs and who doesn't.
Guards, as well as a detachment from the Uganda Peoples Defense Force (UPDF), patrol nearby. The commander of the UPDF's Kitgum brigade, Major Mohango, says fewer than 100 LRA members remain in his area of operations because of aggressive operations by the Ugandan military.
"The LRA are finished," according to Mohango. "They're starving, just looking for a way to survive. They can no longer carry out their atrocities against the civilians, they can no longer abduct children and -- because they can't recruit that way -- their numbers are being depleted."
The LRA is a notoriously elusive group, however, often traveling in small groups to avoid detection. While it does appear its activity in most areas has lessened recently, there is no way to independently verify claims the LRA's numbers have dropped.
Two recent developments may boost the UPDF's efforts to capture Joseph Kony and end the LRA's reign of terror.
Earlier this month the International Criminal Court called for the arrest of Kony and four deputies, the first step toward issuing indictments.
Also, the Sudanese government has granted Uganda temporary permission to pursue Kony and the LRA deeper into southern Sudan, where he and his followers are said to be hiding.
In the past, Sudan has allowed Uganda to go about 100 kilometers into its territory in pursuit of Kony -- up to the so-called "Red Line." Now UPDF spokesman Lt. Col. Shaban Bantariza says Sudan will allow the UPDF to go beyond that point, to use helicopter gunships and even to conduct joint operations to oust the LRA from Sudan.
"Once he's caught," Mahongo says of Kony, "that will be the end of it all."
With tens of thousands killed and more than 1.5 million people displaced during the LRA's reign, many here hope that will soon happen.
While agencies say the number of night commuters has fallen dramatically in recent months because of less LRA activity in the area, old patterns are hard to break.
Nancy Akwon believes she and her nine children will probably still keep making their nightly journey for some time to come.
"I'm not sure when things will really get better or when we'll feel safe again," she says.
It is a legacy of terror so ingrained that it may take more than just the capture of Kony to break the tight grip of fear on northern Uganda.

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Ro...yeah so what. Get lost sucker...all your doing is spamming...no ones reading that crap...go away...

Ro;

Give it up. Do you think we haven't heard that same tired example and it's varieties before? What does that come to, 1 infidel instance, 1000's of years old, for every 500-1000 muslim instances happening on a daily basis, around the world, throughout the march of time.

We've had experts try to blow smoke up our collective ass, what chance does an amatuer like you have?

It comes down to this;

Christians do not kill, rape, destroy, and desecrate in the name of Christianity. Here. Today. Now.

Muslims, around the world, kill, rape, destroy, and desecrate in the name of Islam. HERE. TODAY. NOW.

Do yourself a favor. Leave Islam. Come over from the dark side. Save your soul before it is riddled with the cancer of Islam. Only the brave are capable of achieving the freedom of apostasy, a billion more wallow in Mohammeds prison of the mind, soul, and body, chained to the Hell on Earth that is Islam.

From Article: Islamic jihad does not call for killing innocent men, women and children and to think nothing of it," he said.

Thats right...Islamic jihad does not call for 'thinking nothing of it'. Jihadists think plenty about it. They are thinking how happy Allah is with them that they are killing off present and future enemies of Allah. Allah has made it clear that his enemies are non believers who dont submit and pay the tax. Various muslims, powerpeople like Osama, have included women and children as targets. Thats what terrorism is. Thats what jihad is. It does not matter one twit if the Quran calls for this or not, because muslims are doing it anyway.
There are no Christains or Jews involved in these activities due to their religion. Name one Jew who has strapped on a bomb and blew up a falafel parlor in Baghdad... Not only that, but we already know who is 'innocent' and who is not in muslim eyes. All these people shuck and jive...you know the Islamic names for that...there is not one once of truth or honesty among them...

I had no idea I could take a sword to my mother-in-law, and woe to the next Amalek I come across!

Thanks for the Bible lesson, you have given me something to think about.

Ps. I am being sarcastic. Thought I had better mention that before I get flamed

Dirtywicker...I remember you from my Yahoo Islam chat days, room 10, I think. I gave up on that avenue due to the perpetual room wars going on between infidels...anyway...have a good day...swami

Mr Ape Pig...You got the right idea there. We got to smack down those Amaleks before they grow teeth. The Bible tells us so. I have a captured Amelek. I keep it in a cage. It does not yet have teeth. One thing I discovered, never show an Amelek porn after midnight. Tried that once, thank Allah for that cage. The Amelek went nuts, good thing it had no teeth. I dont think it's a good idea to show an Amelek any porn if they have teeth. Allah invented Ameleks before he invented muslims. He had intended Ameleks to recieve his Quran. But he forgot of the deadly connections between Amelek, porn and teeth. His first Prophet was God-Zillah, but that aborted due to a lot of teeth and a lousy disposition.
The God-Zillah, Amelek religion was called 'The Cult of the Tooth'. They finally abandoned Zillah because he was just too mean. Most Ameleks converted to the new (at that time) religion Islam, with its Allah and Prophet Mo. Due to the lack of dental hygene by the muslims, Ameleks lost their teeth as well, and the whole movement became toothless.
The remnants of the once great Amelek civilization became the companions of Mohammad, some of whom went on to be Califes in their own right. There was only one early muslim with teeth and that was Umar. Thats why Mohammad was afraid of him and gave him anything he wanted.
Umar was an Amelek...Ameleks are still around. There are quite a few of them. Most are in mental institutions...the rest converted to Islam. They are called Wahabi. Beware Wahabi(Ameleks) with teeth. If you capture one take him to the dentist before you show him any porn.

Ro

Jesus never killed anyone. Instead he healed the sick and took compassion on all humans, be they tax collectors or prostitutes. So when Jesus speaks of being a sword, he does not mean it in the way mohammed and or his followers would understand. The actions of Jesus belie that.

Now compare his message, and actions of love and compassion with that of mohammed. Mohammed was one the vilest men in history. Now there have been plenty of men such as he. They were warriors and bandits. Mohammed was like them in all his actions. If muslims regarded mohammed as merely another robber baron or a conqueror, then I would have no qualms. But to regard him as a prophet - that is just unacceptable. Mohammed is a false prophet, and Jesus warned us all about false prophets. It pains me to see why mohammed has not been unmasked by all the world.

Now just look at the muslim world. They are hell-holes, except for those with oil. No one in his right mind, particularly non-muslims, want to go to anywhere where muslims are a majority. Then compare it with the way muslims are desperate to get into the non-muslim world. They lie, cheat and beg to get into the West. Even poor nations such as India, are being deluged by people from Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

So what has gone wrong? There is only one common factor and that is islam. The koran is the word of Lucifer, for no one but Lucifer would advocate the mass murder of Jews, Christians, Hindus and athiests. God loves us all, and he would never never advocate such a thing. This is so simple a concept that it beggars the imagination why muslims cannot see it and reject the koran for what it is - a satanic document.

Ro, leave islam. If you are in a muslim nation, take care before you announce your intention, as you may be killed. If you already are in the West, then you have a bit more freedom. Bit - because there are plenty of muslims here, who would happily slit your throat for rejecting islam. Unfortunate that it has come to this, for even here we cannot grant you the freedom, that you as a human merit.

Take care and may the love of Jesus show you the way.

DP111...It is very kind of you to try and reason with RO...but I suspect he is an Amelek muslim and has already grown teeth. The best you can do is throw him a bone or some leather to chew on.

By the way, Ro is not just a waste of a soul, he's an unskilled, clumsy liar. He hasn't even the intellect to come up with his own lies. Here's the website from which he copied all of his unoriginal hateful spew:

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/guido_deimel/judaism.html

He doesn't even have the integrity to credit his fellow scum.

Here's a good link that refutes much of his filth:

http://www.adl.org/presrele/asus_12/the_talmud.pdf

It's not hard to find sources that prove that aninmals like him have fabricated his rationale for Judenhaas out of whole cloth.

Remember: anytime you see pigs like him using "Talmud" quotes to bolster his own religion - and especially if these quotes purport to show how the Talmud legalizes inhuman behavior - you can be sure that they are complete fabrications.

RO>>> COMPARE IT TO THESE BIBLE VERSES WHERE THE G_D OF ISRAEL TELLS MOSES (THIS WAS NOT AN INSPIRATION BUT A DIRECT COMMAND FROM G_D) TO COMMIT GENOCIDE:

THESE BIBLE VERSES WHERE THE G_D OF ISRAEL TELLS MOSES (THIS WAS NOT AN INSPIRATION BUT A DIRECT COMMAND FROM G_D) TO COMMIT GENOCIDE:

But, but RO...I thought it was all the same God.
You mean Allah and YHVH are not the same? I always suspected that, thanks for the confirmation...