Australia: shots fired at church

This could have something to do with those "race riots." "Church shots fired," from SkyNews, with thanks to Terminator:

Police are investigating the firing of shots overnight at a Catholic school and church in Sydney's west.

People attending a Christmas carols event at St Joseph the Worker Primary School in South Auburn heard what sounded like gunshots.

Two of the school's staff members later discovered bullet holes in their cars and more than 20 shells were recovered from the scene.

The Catholic Church says it is especially concerned at the targetting of Christmas celebrations at a school attended by children as young as five.

The carols service at Holy Spirit Primary School in Lakemba, which was scheduled for tonight, has now been cancelled.

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I heard on the radio that 10,000 dollars of damage had been done to another church as well, but the priest did not think it had anything to do with Muslims - yeah right!

If one good thing comes of this, it is that somebody in authority MIGHT stop Australia giving visas to these hateful barbarians, who wish us nothing but evil.

I can't bring up a family living alongside this malignant community. I'll have to check out which state capital has the smallest number of Muslims and I will go there.

The Catholic race is now under attack. These wacky racists and their racist riots.

Not just Catholics ALL Christians.
They will reap what they sow.

Are the perpetrators 'people of Middle Eastern appearance' again? And the July 7 bombings were 'people of Asian extraction'. And this is about 'tensions' between racial groups, nothing to do with jihad at all.

These wacky racists ...

Not to be confused with "Wacky Races", my favourite cartoon when I was six, and now my nephew's.

Interested, they do entice their rape victims with use of the old wacky baccy.

Slightly OT I see that the High Court were unable to find a reason to deny UK citizenship to David Hicks the Australian convert to Islam who was apprehended in Afghanistan in 2001. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4524256.stm
I do hope our government does not try very hard to get his release. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4524256.stm


The Sheep of Christendom and philosophy of martyrdom are under attack. It really needs updating, it is stuck 2000 years ago, maybe because "The End" was just another end.
Waiting for the sky to fall liberal Christians have embraced masses of bad breath Arabs farming converts, slaves, camels, sharp swords and an illiterate psychopath with a newly revised solution for a very Old Story.
Both now have something in common, martyrdom. Arabs know what to do with "sheep." The Koran is blessed with lots of evil traditions, sanctified by an enlightened sponsor of a newly elected and enlightened Allah.
Just think, all these sheep, kaffir, looking for "The End", self-immolation, trying to catch-up with Christ, the rest is an evolving evolution of history.

Granny Weatherwax, so true this is about all Christians, and Hindus and Buddhists and Jews and even atheists.

This is about world civilization.

This is about freedom of speech and in America freedom to carry fire arms.

This is about the rights of women, all women even Muslim women.

For those who say that race was the cause of the "youth protests" in Australia I say that Islam discriminates against all races and religions.

As someone who looks Mediterranean or Middle Eastern- I am of Spanish origin - I can see that I might have been confused for, one of the Muslims who have tormented Australia for so long, if I had been walking on the street in Sydney, but I wouldn't blame the Aussie youth for this mistake.

We must realize that, while Muslims in Australia, are predominately dark skinned, not all dark skinned are Muslims.

As the people of Australia educate themselves to about the Muslim threat, and those that can help them with this struggle, we can all fight it together, side by side as world citizens.

not all dark skinned are Muslims.
And some of blue eyes and fair hair ARE Muslim. The aforesaid David Hicks being a prime example.

And while I deplore genuine racism I have always admired the way Australians tend not to stand much nonsense.

A Uniting church has been burnt down.

Ironically, it was located adjacent to an Islamic training centre.
A Muslim lady just said on 2GB talkback radio that it was,
'obviously burnt down by Christians trying to blame the Muslims as no Muslim would risk burning down the Islamic training centre...and you guys want shit and you're gonna get it!!".

Charming lady.

So they're in Australia also. No one can get away from our Muslim friends. Merry Christmas to all:

You won't be able to shout, you won't be able to cry
Because your throat's just been cut and you're going to die
Islamic Jihad's Coming to Town!

They'll know if you're blaspheming
They'll know if you've mocked Mo
They'll know if you've broke your Ramadan fast or allowed your ankle to show!

You won't be able to shout, you won't be able to cry
Because your throat's just been cut and you're going to die
Islamic Jihad's Coming to Town!

They'll know if you're a Crusader
They'll know if you're a Jew
They'll know if you're a Dhimmi and you won't pay your jizya due!

You'd better read Qu'ran, you'd better convert
You'd better obey Sharia and don't dare revert
Islamic Jihad's in your Home Town!

From poster Skylark on
http://www.democracyfrontline.org/blog/

At a Catholic school in Western Sydney called Saint Joseph’s some children were having their annual Christmas concert in which the parents applaud their children’s magnificent efforts in trying to hit the right not and so on.

Well, some carloads of ‘Men of Middle Eastern appearance rolled up and started to abuse the parents and children.

When the people had rushed inside the hall - some gunshots were fired. The holes are still in the building (and some cars parked outside got the bullets holes as well).

At least they did not shoot anyone - so we can all rest assured. The local Cardinal Pell who is friends with all the heads of religious groups in Sydney looked ashen and shaken on TV and lamented the religious violence that had produced this. Well -he said the r word.

http://apnews.myway.com/image/20051213/AUSTRALIA_RACIAL_UNREST.sff_SYD107_20051213064542.html?date=20051213&docid=D8EFC0M00

Don't worry, the "ethnic leaders" are being consulted about the violence and all will soon be well. Note the full beards, Arabic robes and coffee-filter hats on the "ethnic leaders." Nothing to do with Islam, move along now folks.

Pell, is a great cardinal, you remember when he compared islam with marxism.
Respect the news, well, like a catholic, I´m angry, and I know that is only the beginning. I don´t what it will happen, but I know that this century of peace in western have ended and we come back to mohammedan invasion times.
Like older times, I know that the Catholic Church like a defender of the civilisation will have to have a paper in the defense.
God helps us.

The sooner our leaders in the Western world come to acknowledge that its Islam that is the PROBLEM and stop allowing Mohammedans to invade our countries with their primitive evil ideology the better. Better still, start the deportations now before its too late.
Islam is definitely not compatible with western Christian democracies. Its the judeo/Christians that have created the secular enlightened western democracies, Islam will destroy it if take no action right away or we all go back the the barbaric 7th century.

We are all members of the human race.
Does that make us racists?
Nonsense.

This is not a racial matter, and I deplore the falsehood in reporting and the pathetic dance around the issue: This is the Mohammedan death-cult against all of us. Nothing less:

From an article above:
"At a Catholic school in Western Sydney called Saint Joseph’s some children were having their annual Christmas concert in which the parents applaud their children’s magnificent efforts in trying to hit the right not and so on.
Some carloads of ‘Men of Middle Eastern appearance rolled up and started to abuse the parents and children.
When the people had rushed inside the hall - some gunshots were fired. The holes are still in the building (and some cars parked outside got the bullets holes as well)."

Why do they attack churches?
Simple: They believe we are "crusaders" and the church-leaders are militant and full of hatred, just like their imams and muftis in the mosques.

The Mohammedans congregate in in the Lakemba mosque to 'protect' it, their 'clerics' make sure they get all fired up and go straight on a rampage afterwards. Classic!

This pattern goes back, way back. I also found a link to previous attacks on churches in Australia, strangely in "The Hindu"

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=AjB_l8pFgftioS2s1bZ5yZxXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1N2Rwc2ZwBGNvbG8DZQRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZANPT1A1XzU-/SIG=12d01bni6/EXP=1134587174/**http%3a//www.hinduonnet.com/2001/10/16/stories/0316000i.htm

The Church of St Joseph the Worker is mainly used by Lebanese Christians.


Aussies, drunk or sober, handle your business and make sure these "men of middle eastern dissent" understand that you will not be allowing them to take over your land.

Let them call you drunkards, rioting scum, whatever, just take care of your business. They West will thank you in the end for defending yourselves. They are the intolerant racists, not you.

They meaning the Muslims that is.

Read this from Keysar Trad, who is the vicepresident of Lebanese Muslims Asssociation
http://www.hreoc.gov.au/human_rights/children_detention/submissions/trad.html
They are losing sheep and they are angry, because they can´t kill all apostates, even muslims baptisms received from a bishop! what a multicultural sin!
Later, they began to hurt the converts
http://www.domini.org/openbook/aust20020520.htm
Greetings

Franze
Can't get the first link to work.

I have had enough of these people. I dont know if it is legal to say what I am about to imply. If I ever get a terminal illness, I will fight these guys the same way they fight the west and I encourage anyone else to do the same. If you know what I mean. They attack churchs during reliqious holidays the same can be done back.

"You won't be able to shout, you won't be able to cry. Because your throat's just been cut and you're going to die. Islamic Jihad's Coming to Town!"
-- posted by RBLA

Haaaaaaaa! Too much. RBLA, you cracked this alarmed pig farmer totally up.

Christmas cheers to all! And I've got a free ham sandwich for any Moslem who'd care for a bite to eat.

Another church attacked, this one burned down:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17564679-37435,00.html

Very peaceful, very tolerant.

Other than the church set alight one nearby had 18 or so windows smashed.

I am still more horrified at the primary school xmas carols being threatened and shot at.

From LGF:


December 12, 2005
Australian beach riots
The media is uniformly portraying it as a racial issue -- and there are definite racial overtones. The Australian gangs chant about "Lebs," and the news reports say they are targeting "men of Middle Eastern appearance."

The "men of Middle Eastern appearance," for their part, started the whole thing with attacks on lifeguards. Here is some pertinent commentary from Paul Sheehan in the Sydney Morning Herald:

Out there in Sydney, there is a huge cumulative weight of resentment and contempt at the constant provocations by Lebanese gangs - I'm not even going to bother with the simpering euphemism about "men of Middle Eastern appearance" when everybody knows what it means. It was evident on the beach at Cronulla yesterday.
As it happens, on Saturday, the leader of the Bra Boys bought into the Cronulla debate. Surf star Koby Abberton, who is facing a prison sentence for hindering a police investigation of a murder involving two other Bra Boys, called The Daily Telegraph to offer a view on why his home beach, Maroubra, was one of the few in Sydney not to have been trawled by Lebanese-Australian goons.

"The reason why it's not happening at Maroubra is because of the Bra Boys," Abberton told the Telegraph. "Girls go to Cronulla, Bondi, everywhere else in Sydney and get harassed, but they come to Maroubra and nothing happens to them ... [Because] if these fellas come out to Maroubra and start something they know it's going to be on, so they stay away."

What has happened on consecutive weekends has been displays of two unpalatable subcultures, the yobbo beach tribes, and the Lebanese gangsta tribes. The reactions to the Cronulla brawl will be predictable. The disgusting behaviour of the Aussie yobs, behaving even worse than the original provocateurs last week, will prompt a great deal of ululating about Australian's undertow of racism. This will be countered by a demand for recognition that violent crime in Sydney is disproportionately dominated by Lebanese, Aborigines and Pacific Islanders and Australians have had a gutful of the pandering to these groups.

Both sides will be right. You only have to look at the events at Coogee RSL club in 2002 to know that Australian beach culture has its ugly underbelly. And it would be folly to airbrush away the reality that what started the Cronulla tensions was yet another provocation by the aggressive, repugnant Lebanese gangsta culture - itself an alien subculture within the Lebanese community - which has given Sydney dozens of shootings and murders, a spate of gang rapes, hundreds of sexual assaults, and thousands of deliberate racist provocations at Darling Harbour, the eastern and southern beaches and some of the big clubs in western Sydney, along with Canterbury Bulldogs rugby league matches.

At its worst, this culture had overtones of civil war, as the Kanaan gang sprayed the Lakemba police station with gunfire. One of those who took part in this attack was Saleh Jamal, now in jail in Lebanon on weapons charges. He has turned to Islamic fundamentalism and wanted to explode a terrorist bomb in Sydney before he fled the country.

The cops hate and fear the swarming packs of Lebanese who respond when some of their numbers are confronted, mobilising quickly via mobile phones and showing open contempt for Australian law. All this is the real world, as distinct from the world preferred by ideological academics who talk about "moral panic" and the oppression of Muslims. They will see only Australian racism as the problem.

And this:

Is Islam the Problem?
article by Andrew West in The Sidney Morning Herald, 12/13/5

My colleague on this paper, Nadia Jamal, has mounted a strong and sophisticated argument that the issue is not religion but culture, specifically the patriarchal culture that prevails in many traditional Muslim households. This is a good point but I think it diplomatically sidesteps the fact that some strains of Islam do, indeed, sanction attitudes and behaviour that are not simply patriarchal but repressive.

When groups of young Muslim men stalk the beaches of Sydney making sexually threatening comments against women in bathing costumes, as they indisputably do; and when they believe they act with the license of a sheik who claims that such women are responsible for their own sexual violation, is their religion, at least in part, to blame?

I do not embrace multiculturalism, as such, because I do not believe all cultures are compatible with non-discriminatory liberalism. I prefer a multi-ethnic, non-racial society, which has at its core a canon of values that include racial and gender equality.

Why are we surprised that the Muslim gangs are causing trouble? Here is an article about the sheik, mentioned above, who claims women on the beach in bikinis are responsible for their own sexual violation.

This is what their leaders say at banquets. Lebanese Muslim cleric made remarks at a banquet sponsored by ICRA Youth Centre in Lidcombe, to the effect that women who were raped had incited men's lust by dressing immodestly and only had themselves to blame.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Muslim-cleric-women-incite-mens-lust-with-satanic-dress/2005/04/23/1114152362381.html

http://blogs.smh.com.au/thecontrarian/archives/2005/12/is_islam_the_pr.html

Look, this is about muslims fighting against non-muslim Australians.

The Lebanese muslims have been harassing Australians at the beach for years. After they had bashed lifesavers, Aussies had a demonstration to protest against their treatment, which had been going on for years.

One man said that Lebanese came into restaurants and would spit at people dining there.

At Castle Hill, a man was asked in he was Australian, and when he said yes, he was bashed, and his car vandalised.

Now in the muslim heartland of Auburn, a church has been set on fire, and a Catholic school had shots fired into it.

And the press are blaming Australians for being racist.

Hi there,
Can you help?
We are in the middle of all this, in Sydney and we are getting increasingly frustrated with the MSM coverage of the events.
This is a typical MSM mentality, from Murdoch owned papers:

Media must avoid fanning flames
Mark Day
December 14, 2005
SOME radio practitioners are fond of calling talkback shows "dial-in democracy" - as if the ability of people to go live to air to have their say, no matter how wrong in fact, misguided in intent or inflammatory in effect, somehow brings a benefit to society.

Full story here: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17562779%255E2702,00.html

See here, Mr Day on the other hand is NOT misguided - he has monopoly on wisdom and Murdoch's media forum paid by Pprince Talal's petrodollars

We are trying to report as much as we can on what is happening but our Internet exposure and our readership aren't so great (we've been running our blog only for 3-4 weeks now).
this is our address:
http://democracyfrontline.org/blog
The local MSM plays racial issues (yeah right Lebanese Christian race against Lebanese Muslim race)as their main spin on the news and now we've got 3 churches burnt already, yet it seems that it is the Muslims suffering hardship from NAZIS!!????

Sory to be such an attention seeker (but under the current circumstances...)

Catholic churches are burnt in Sydney, but there is NO mention of the word muslims. On TV, journalists are saying that they don't know who started the fires, and they're treating this as though it was done by thugs, rather than by muslims. No-one is using the "M' word, muslim.

Voltaire writes:
"Catholic churches are burnt in Sydney"

Fight fire with fire I say. It seems painfully clear that you need to do everything they do to you back to them ten times over.

Voltaire: It certainly doesn't help when news reports show 2-3 minutes worth of Sundays 'racist' mob and then cuts to the burning church without any mention of who lit the fire.

On a related note, can anyone provide figures for the number of mosques set alight vs. the number of chuches set alight. I am interested comparisons for both Australia and elsewhere...

Thanks Angry muppet for pointing that out.

That's another thing: the TV news reports talk about gangs vandalising cars in Maroubra without specifiying who the gangs are.

Now if they don't specify who they are, you can be sure that they're muslims.

They only get specific when Australians do anything.

are firearms illegal in Australia? seems the lebanesse islamofacicst youths have no trouble getting them...

More ambiguity regarding who is needing protection:

POLICE would closely monitor places of worship after a fire destroyed a Sydney church hall in an attack that may be linked to Cronulla's race riots, NSW Premier Morris Iemma said today.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17564774-2,00.html

Lulu:
Firearms are just about illegal. No semi or full automatics and you must be registered and have legitimate reason to have handguns/rifles (ie: hunting/sport). After someone went nuts a few years ago and killed quite a few ppl the government had an amnesty and bought all the guns back. Of course, do you think any criminals handed theirs in?

Criminals have reasons to have guns.

"I'm a police officer - and I am scared"

This open letter, from an anonymous police officer, was being distributed to locals in Cronulla yesterday.
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,17560765-5001030,00.html

Interesting article but you can never be sure that anonymous letters are from who they say they are...

Hang in there lads!, fight back with whatever you have...

don't just wait... plan your defense.

Confront the MSM for not telling the true story.

Call out the politicians who are feckless.

Criticize the police chiefs if they do nothing.

The whole world is watching over the internet!

Here in New York so many are watching and learning from the brave Bra Boys and the 5,000 that who started the first revolt against the Islamic assault on the world.

I promise to spread the word!

Listening to an Aussie radio guy, Kerr, was upset when he heard about the fire but when a caller said it was a Christian church he was relieved and said so. It would have been so much worse if it was an islamic school he said.



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As I listened to the callers I noticed that though many realized the muslims were a problem no one seemed to understand the root cause of why they are a problem. And of course some said "all you need is love", sort of and it will all be ok.

They need to google a few word combinations like~ Christians forced from homes flee from mobs churches burned by angry mobs ~ words like that in any combination, to get a big picture of what is happening around the world and they will see what to expect. Much of the stories they will read about are happening just north of Australia, coming soon to a place near you...

I wonder if Mr. Spencer's book is sold in Australia.

I am speechless.

The first person has been jailed over the riots... 4 month sentence...
possession of offensive implement in public... he had a tree branch!

Now I assume that he must have done some damage with his tree branch because there have been reports of people being threatened with guns and I find that a little more offensive. Anyone know exactly what this guy did or is it as simple as it sounds?

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17566018-29277,00.html

Yeah Borg...it is depressing.

I had some hope yesterday, as many callers were ringing in about the problem is Islam and it's inabilty to integrate in Australian society, but today...eveything's changed.
The anger seems gone...an anglo-saxon youth caught walking around carrying a tree banch on Sunday has been sentenced to four months prison but all the Muslim youths arrested are out on bail.
Everyone seems to be swallowing the line that the riots are all the fault of the Aussie yobbos....everything since Sunday is just 'Lebo' retaliaton.
It is all a problem with racism.

The talkback hosts are reminiscing about the good old days and playing songs like 'Christmas in Sydney'...all very misty-eyed.
Australia seems doomed..it appears the dhimmified media and overnment will not allow any critisism of Islam.

The devil will have his time of hate on earth...there seems little can be done about it as God has blinkered everyone...none so blind as he who will not see.

Hang in there Australians. You can't give up.
No one can. Us or them. This is only the first shot. Some people will have gotten it now. You
need to spread the word. It wasn't Lebanese
Christians causing trouble. You have facts on
your side, people will come around.

Shame about your guns though. And what's up with
the cops? Can't you run these guys out?

Mike:
You talk of the dhimmified media and government. What are the chances that there are people in government and especially within the police force (I'm not going near the media with this one) are aware that Islam is THE problem or at least a significant contributing factor.

Of course they would feel pressured not to say such a thing but the extra powers given to police and the refusal for some pollies to classify this as racism seem to me indications that they are aware there is more to these events than what they say.

I know a lot of focus is being directed at the 'redneck yobbos' from Cronulla but this falls in with distracting the PC crowd with what they want to hear whilst still addressing the problems behind the scenes.

Yea muppet...and there IS a Santa Claus :)

Thanks for the laugh mike. Maybe there was a little bit of fantasy in there but I just hope for the best. I don't think it's wrong to be optimistic about the future as long as we identify the problems we face and take steps to rectify the issue.

There are cries about WHY is this happening in Australia........for goodness sake the bad behaviour of these unable to be assimilated Australian citizens has been happening for ages but hands off the muslims and foreigners because we have to be so politically correct that we almost turn ourselves inside out. Mostly the bad behaviour is treated with a little smack....and that's going top work isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!
While most imports to Australia mix in well and are happy to be here(me included ) muslims seldom will but then will blame everyone else.I did hear the word disadvantaged today in a news bulletin........??????? in this country of very low unemployment,generous welfare and beautiful surroundings.....what a crock of s..t.
They must therefore return to their origin country where everything is so much better.

What are the chances that there are people in government and especially within the police force (I'm not going near the media with this one) are aware that Islam is THE problem or at least a significant contributing factor.

Just go over to tim blair's website and see what the Aussies are thinking

Hi all,

Firstly, I just want to say how frustrating it is that the media is intent on portraying the events in Sydney as racially motivated, perpetrated by a bunch of drunken yobs. As other informed posters have said, this was clearly a case of aussies saying enough is enough.

Obviously Australians were collectively very upset about the events in Bali where close to 100 aussie holiday makers have been murdered simply because muslims object to our drinking alcohol, dressing in scant clothing (i.e. bikinis/ board shorts) and generally having a good time.

On top of that you have all the well publicised racially/ religiously motivated gang rapes (i.e. pakistani muslims) in Sydney and the arrests of 19 guys on terrorism charges who were apparently well advanced in their plans for mass murder of yet more innocent Australians in our own country. To cap it off an icon of the Australian way of life i.e. volunteer life guards, were assaulted for telling some lebanese guys to stop intimidating local beach goers with their kicking of soccer balls. Oh, not to mention 9/11, Madrid, London, Beslan etc. I mean, how much do good people who showed generosity of spirit by allowing muslims to migrate to Australia to avoid civil war in their own country have to put up with???

Australians really are very open, kind, generous and good spirited people as anyone who has ever visited this country can attest. We are proudly a multi-ethnic country. The problem is there is some sort of illogical movement by leftists and other ideologues to push us to some sort of delusional, multi-cultural utopia where even people intent on changing our fundamental rights and values are to be "tolerated". Its simply absurd!

The overwhelming majority of the 5000+ people who gathered at Cronulla were there to protest the injustice and absurdity invading our way of life. They weren't carrying weapons though there were some fist fights including one with a lebanese guy who challenged the crowd to a fight.. duh!. They were there primarily to protest and protect their way of life and that of their preceding generations.

Of course some people were drinking and of course it got a bit out of hand for about 20 minutes but the Australians didn't stab anyone or even put anyone in hospital for that matter, contrast that with the actions of the Lebanese who were armed, brandished guns, base ball bats with spikes and travelled to the beaches well away from their homes. They were looking for trouble whereas the Australians were there to make a statement and say no more intimidation of family's enjoying a day at the beach, no more dropping your litter and cigerette butts indiscriminantly, enough rapes, enough assaults, enough insults.

I love to surf, I love to go to the beach with friends and family and the last thing I would tolerate is a bunch of ungrateful, ignorant thugs ruining my day off (do these guys work?) and insulting my sisters, female friends and nieces. I'm a very fit and capable guy and if another guy of any ethnic/religious background made an insulting or intimidating remark or act towards one of my sisters etc I would not hesitate in responding appropriately. If the gesture or action was sufficiently degrading or intimidating and the authorities were unable or unwilling to respond then sometimes breaking someone's nose may well be justified.

If this gathering of protesting Australians had occurred on the Gold Coast I would have been the first there to show my support. I would not have assaulted anyone indiscriminately but I would have been keen to send a clear message to those who are intent on changing our lives for the lesser (be it muslims or their sympathisers) that their actions will not be tolerated, ever.

Notwithstanding the ill informed response of much of the media (particularly international) that tries to write off these events as a drunken, white rascist spree, the overwhelming majority of people that i know are proud of the response of the Australian community. I'm of the view that most Australians see through the PC bull***t. Muslims just can't contain themselves, they are letting the cat out of the bag for all to see. Its a shame to see the situation get to this point but you can't just ignore a problem which unquestionably will just keep growing if unchecked.

Borg:
I got my copy of Robert Spencers book(PIG) as an import and it only took two weeks to get here.
Just as a side story which I know is true some Lebs(between 16-20 years old) were at an ice rink harassing primary school aged children on the ice.A close friend of mine who acts as security kept telling them to calm down.He heard a scream and a thud so he turned to see a young child flat faced on the ice, so he skated over to him and as he lifted the child's head blood started pouring from a gash on his forehead.He asked the childs friends what happened and they pointed to the Lebs and said that one of them tripped him over.The child received 16 stitches to that wound.My friend also plays ice hockey twice a week so he is a very good player and he is quite large.As one was standing laughing my friend skated to him and dropped him on the spot, the Leb hitting the ice unconscious. Another watched what happened to his mate and skated to the boards and tried to get over it,he didn't make it all the way over as my mate checked him and the Leb snapped three ribs.One started running(still with skates on)to the Mens toilet, luckily for this one he made it there but my mate followed him in as well(you can guess what happened).When my friend came out he said that the other Lebs were gone,he asked where they went and witnesses said that their mates picked them up and left.The reason why my friend went OFF is because his sister was gang raped in 2000.
This only happened two days ago.

D.T. if more people responded like you did there would be no problem.

Be careful mate, they may plan to come back!

Call your friends and be ready if they come back!

Protest, the lack police response to Muslim violence

Call and criticize, soft politicians

Boycott business or media that show sympathies for Muslim violence.

Organize yourself into neighborhood defense groups.

March and protest in huge rallies to show your resolve.

Vote in the next election for candidates that will save your country

Here in America and New York, I will do everything I can to spread the word of what is happening in Australia.

You can do it mates!

Holland, France, now Australia. How long before these riots start in the United States? How will American leaders react do you think?

I suspect that it won't happen on that scale, in America, because gun ownership even in the politically correct cities like New York, is limited. And it is possible to own a gun at home for self-defense.

They would be afraid of the response.

After 911, I help escort a coworker (a Muslim) to his sister's school because he feared that she would be attack because of her Hijab. She was not attacked- very little violence happened to any Muslims after the attack on the World Trade Center- but he was so afraid and kept telling me that since Americans have so many guns she would be shot. His fear a response that never came was palpable.

This was before the average American knew anything about Islam.

Since then, I have witnessed several confrontations one between two security officers at the airport. In this case, a coworker had a physical confrontation with another Muslim Officer. He was an ex-marine just back from Iraq and snapped when the other man was saying that 911 was justified; he had many friends who died from the attack.

To my astonishment he was not removed from his post.

The Muslim coworker a very cocky guy, who would brag about his female conquests, even after he brought his Muslim wife from his country, left out of shame. He was flattened to the ground and his face was bleeding from just one punch. He looked like a wimp.

There were a few lawsuits back and forth but the ex-marine won out.

I think that now after so much has happened and how much more educated people are, Americans would respond with a lot less retrain

I think the Muslim community in the US knows that.

Let's hope that their are no more attacks, because unlike Europe, gun ownership is very high and in America we have a tradition of self-defense.

I fear the response would wipe out the Muslim community.

You should help to find those that are ploting.

In New York the NYPD gotten a lot of info from the Muslim community, in some case stoped attacks.

Before these trouble makers are allowed into the country,all Western countries and Australia should get a written undertaking from the would be immigrants that , in case of any riots or damage to the properties of Government,locals,Churches,etc,to which they are directry,or indirectly responsible, they agree for their deportaion without enquiery. They must also agree in a written statemnet, that they will respect the local culture,religion,and way of life of the 'Sons of the Soil' of that country, and will not try to impose their way of life on them. For this,the immigrating country must issue a 'temporary Citizen ship' document to them,instead of a full Citizenship.Only after 20 years,based on their conduct,their citizenship should be made permanent.

Sheik yer'mami asks :"why do they attack churches?".The reason is their sacred book Koran.Allah says Jesus was never crucified,and thus the cross of christians is a fake.According to Koran, The "muslim'Jesus,when he returns,will break all crosses in the world(meaning destory all christians)!What a hateful God the Allah,Who wants the destruction of Christians,Jews,idolators like catholics,Hindus!? Just immagine a world of only Muslims!!They will kill each other in no time,and the world will be empty.!

Secularaussie,

“The overwhelming majority of the 5000+ people who gathered at Cronulla were there to protest the injustice and absurdity invading our way of life.”

Excellent post. I'm on the other side of the globe and I am as frustrated as you are. I've been thinking about solutions to this media bias in the coverage of the events. (e.g., the ridiculous attempt to label 5000 ordinary young people as "racists"). One thing (among many things) that could be done is to get as much of these assaults and harrassments on video (or film). Surely there are some Australian filmakers who would do a documentary on this, covering the violence, as well as the media's inability to properly report who is doing what. And with small video cameras so popular now, probably lots of people have some video of the events. Also recordings and transcriptions of interviews with victims of the assaults are also needed, and such audio and video material could be submitted to the police and media outlets. Every time the Lebs utter a misogynist slur threatening to rape Australian girls, etc., or when they attack someone, this should be plastered all over the evening news. A few weeks back we saw the video of the Islamic terrorist suspects (and/or their friends) attacking a camera crew--this got world-wide attention. Image sequences like those stick in peoples' minds.

I also believe formal complaints procedures should be pursued against the media outlets who are misreporting this and deliberately portraying a crowd of 5000 people, for example, as racist.

I hope that my above post is not misinterpreted, when I said, " that the Muslim community would be wiped out ". I did not mean individual Muslins who though may harbor support for the Jihad, may not be active participants.

What I meant to say, was that the institutions of the Muslim presence in America, the madrases, mosques, the Saudi economic presence and Islamic institutions, would be wiped out.

Individual Muslims would suffer as result,