D.C. Watson: Islam: The Religion of…

D. C. Watson reminds all the dhimmis of the West that “truth is not bigotry. Truth is truth.”

If you take a bologna sandwich, dress it all up and make it the most appetizing snack you”ve ever created, what do you get? A well-dressed bologna sandwich.

As leading Muslim groups in America and abroad try to doll up Islam into a peaceful, tolerant package, the truth continues to escape. They can’t stop it. While they attempt to divert attention away from it by race baiting, name calling, and harassment, slowly but surely, the masses are being enlightened. Truth is not bigotry. Truth is truth.

On July 26, 2005, the Council on American Islamic Relations (http://www.anti-cair-net.org/) published an article on their website entitled “Poll: Fewer Americans Link Islam to Violence,” with a footnote that reads “CAIR says Muslim anti-terror message is being heard.”

From the column:

“The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today welcomed the results of a new survey showing that the public’s concerns over recent terror bombings do not translate into less favorable opinions of either American Muslims or Islam. The nationwide survey of 2,000 adults by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life also indicates that the number of Americans who believe Islam is more likely than other religions to encourage violence fell significantly to 36 percent from 44 percent two years ago.”

Comments and statistics in the CAIR column are flawed and incomplete. In the same Pew poll, the favorable opinion of Islam dropped from 40% to 39%, while the unfavorable opinion of Islam rose from 34% to 36% during the same time frame.

The Pew poll results can be accessed here: http://pewforum.org/docs/index.php?DocID=89

As CAIR proclaims that some “Muslim anti-terror” message is being heard, the majority of people around the world, including the United States, continue to have concerns about Islamic extremism in their countries — as documented in the July 14, 2005 Pew poll.
http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?PageID=812

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Their concerns have a perfectly reasonable foundation. This is proven by Muslims who hold prominent positions in the community and yet can control neither their arrogance nor their mouths. They reveal their true desires at every turn.

Ishan Bagby: “Ultimately we (Muslims) can never be full citizens of this country. . .. because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions and ideologies of this country”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34024

Shamim A. Siddiqi: “To permit Islam to attain its rightful place requires that the ideology of Islam prevail over the mental horizon of the American people.”

Siraj Wahhaj: “I have a vision in America, Muslims owning property all over, Muslim businesses, factories, halal meat, supermarkets, all these buildings owned by Muslims. Can you see the vision, can you see the Newark International Airport and a John Kennedy Airport and LaGuardia having Muslim fleets of planes, Muslim pilots. Can you see our trucks rolling down the highways, Muslim names.”
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/77 (an informative read)

Incidentally, this gem, Siraj Wahhaj, was a scheduled guest speaker at CAIR”s 2005 “American Muslims, Partners for Peace and Justice” Banquet. Politicians, what should this tell you about the people you allow to train our law enforcement personnel on the topic of “Muslim sensitivity”?
http://www.cair-net.org/2005banquet/default.asp

There’s no need to rely solely on the Pew poll. Other polls contain similar information.

The Globe and Mail: “In your opinion, are Western values fundamentally at odds with those of Islam”? Here are the results:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/polls/pollResults?id=37018&pollid=37018&answerid=&poll=GAMFront&save=_save&show_vote_always=no&hub=Front&subhub=VoteResult

Cornell University:
http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Dec04/Muslim.Poll.bpf.html

There are peaceful Muslims here and around the world. However, after 1400 years, Islam has not proven to be peaceful.

The ongoing onslaught as of 12/4/2005: 3445 Islamic terrorist attacks have been carried out since 9/11/2001. ***Nota bene: This number excludes the more than 25,300 Muslim attacks on Israel. ***
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Sir Winston Churchill, the British Prime Minister and Minister of Defense 1940-1945, summed up what he thought of Islam without fear of offending PC sensibilities:

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property””Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.”

That’s from http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=137.

Hear that, Mr. Blair? Mr. Bush? Ms. Pelosi? Mr. and Mrs. Kerry? Ms. McKinney?

The French riots: Muslims injure people and destroy property all throughout France, and all that can be said is that they weren’t integrated properly?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20107

The Denmark riots: Muslims riot over a cartoon of Muhammad?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008829.php

Jesus Christ gets bashed all the time. He wasn’t a pedophile, caravan raider, or cutthroat like Muhammad, yet people attack Christ and Christianity in Western countries every day. Are Christians rioting in the streets? Would you ultra-enraged Muslims please go find something constructive to do with yourselves?

If you are among the overwhelming majority who appreciate the individual liberties offered and protected by United States Constitution, if you want a future for your children and grandchildren that consists of freedom, security, and prosperity: Thank you, and please keep listening to those who have exposed the radical Islamic agenda inside our nation.

A thousand tiny cuts into a culture can be lethal. At this point, the radical Muslim groups in the U.S. are few in number. Yet while their numbers are small, it is important to be aware sooner rather than later that the activities of these organizations are not in the best interests of the nation.

Anis Shorrosh writes compellingly about “the agenda of Islamists and visible methods to take over America by the year 2020.”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33898

Muslims living in the United States who appreciate freedom and demonstrate their loyalty to the U.S. Constitution should certainly stay. The ones that are loyal only to Islamic law should be shipped back to wherever they came from.

To all of the beautiful, liberated women around the world, can you see yourself being expected to dress in a tent all day every day? Can you see having to ask your husband for permission to step outside your home? Or how about not being able to vote because you are a female? Oh, Islam also has this thing about female genital mutilation that you should know about: http://www.challenging-islam.org/frontpage.htm.

To all of my fellow consumers of alcoholic beverages around the world, can you see yourself never being permitted to enjoy your favorite spirits again? Can you see yourself sitting in an NFL or soccer stadium, or being at a NASCAR race, forbidden to drink a beer or two? Can you imagine no more pubs?

Atheists, can you see yourself being forced to face toward Mecca, praying five times a day to a “supreme being” that you don’t even believe exists?

To all of the youth in the West who jam to Metal, can you see the music you love so much that you break your own bones for it in the Mosh pits taken away from you forever?

To everyone who enjoys freedom of speech, expression and thought: Can you picture yourself speaking out on an issue, being arrested, and then being sentenced to having your tongue sliced off with a razor blade?

Or how about being forced to convert from your faith to Islam, or staying with your faith, but having to pay a special tax (Jizya), and live as a second class citizen (Dhimmi) under Islamic rule?

These are a few examples of what Islamic law brings with it. Until the faith itself undergoes reform, it will not change. How does it sound so far?
http://www.secularislam.org/articles/opposed.htm

Samuel Adams: “The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. It will bring an ever lasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.”

This country was founded on a common set of values, which should be followed by anyone who wants to live here. Anyone who migrates to the U.S. and is offended by our national symbols, holidays, free speech, or in general the way we run our country is not only disrespectful, but useless to America as it moves forward — as are any politicians who coddle them.

Our founding fathers worked to form this nation. Our ancestors worked to build this nation. Our soldiers sacrificed to protect this nation. Islamic migrants who come here and are offended by us can blame the ridicule and scrutiny that they experience only on themselves.

Tolerance goes only so far before it becomes submission. The Arabic word for submission is Islam.

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  1. says

    “Tolerance goes only so far before it becomes submission. The Arabic word for submission is Islam.”
    —-
    Very good last words.

  2. says

    D.C.,

    You say, “Muslims living in the United States who appreciate freedom and demonstrate their loyalty to the U.S. Constitution should certainly stay.”

    These are the mythical “moderate Muslims” we here so much about. Oh, wait, these are the “nominal Muslims”. Ah hah, these are the pious people who can show us misguided secularists what real religion is.

    Get this straight: There is NOTHING redeeming about Islam. Its founder was a psychopath, its god is an angry tyrant. Its followers are zombies who cannot think, question or even hope. They live in fear of the ‘hell-fire’.

    To allow such talk is to permit the Muslim worker ants to multiply and gain political power, until that 5% or 8% that totally misunderstand the true message of Islam can gain political control.

    I suppose also that the converts to Islam that become suicide bombers converted to the Islam that ‘appreciates freedom and demonstrates loyalty to the United States.’

    Ethelred Smith – http://www.challenging-islam.org

  3. says

    Woe, Ethelred is it? Calm down before you blow a gasket. You are correct, it does appear that a great amount of the Muslim crowd in the United States is a band of either militants, or apologists for radical Islam, but not every single Muslim everywhere in the world falls under this description. Most are pukes, but there are a few that don’t have it in them to hate everyone like you seem to think.

    Do you think every Muzz appreciates the slime who works for CAIR? Here is proof that they do not right here

    http://online.recordnet.com/articlelink/061105/news/articles/061105-gn-3.php

    Again, agreed, most of the Islamic followers are zombies and live in fear of what that fruitcake Muhammed told them, but not every one of them.

  4. says

    Again, agreed, most of the Islamic followers are zombies and live in fear of what that fruitcake Muhammed told them, but not every one of them.

    AI, that’s such a relief! And you’ll be in charge of telling us which are the “fruitcakes” and which are the ones we can trust? Who are the ones who will slit our throats for maximum suffering and which are the ones who will stand idly by, silently cheering? Which are the ones to embrace safely? Which are the ones to fear? What will your criteria be? Share with us so we can all learn.

  5. says

    Oh, c’mon Dixie……I’m the first one to agree with D.C. Watson that Islam hasn’t to been proven to be peaceful…..all I am saying is that there is a small minority of Muslims who don’t fall into this “kill all that is non-Islamic” train of thought.

    Many Muslims don’t want to live under Islamic law, that’s what they fled their homeland. I personally would like to see all immigration from Islamic lands halted, and I don’t trust Islam, but don’t attack me for simply saying that not every single Muslim wants to live in the stone age for Christ’s sake.

    There should be no more Islamic immigration to the United States, period, because Islam and the West will always collide. But there are Muslims here, that are not militant, and just want to live freely. Some teenagers have strayed from Islam altogether and a good portion of them don’t even go to mosques.

  6. says

    They’ll NEVER take my metal away! And I have broken bones in the mosh pit for it.

    Seriously though, DC does a fantastic job of depicting what life would be like under Islamic law. How could anyone who has tasted the freedoms of the West in general and the USA specifically EVER “submit” to such a backwards ass mindset? Simply infathomable.

    Keep shining that light Mr. Watson…

  7. says

    Asylum inmate:

    It doesn’t matter that there exist peaceful moderate Muslims (whatever their proportionate percentage among the total population of Muslims).

    What matters is whether we can reasonably identify them as such and tell them apart from the Muslims who are now, or who will become at some future point, deadly.

    We have no way of telling the difference, since the deadly Muslims don’t wear bright purple jumpsuits and don’t all come out of a single factory in one place.

    We certainly cannot go by external behavior and words to tell the difference.

    The only sure-fire way to tell the difference between the moderate Muslim and the deadly Muslim is after the mass-murderous explosion: but then, I’m sure you’ll agree, it’s too late.

  8. says

    I imagine the reason why the Poles have such a low “worry quotient” is that they still remember Jan Sobieski.

    If your society is ready to administer an ass-kicking as needed, you don’t have to worry so much!

  9. says

    Oh come on exactly what?

    Sing along!

    All we are saying…is
    give Muslims a chance. :-) :-) :-)

    If someone possess some kind of x-ray vision and can see into the heart of a Muslim, see past the taqiyya and kitman and *know* they hold infidels in reverence contrary to everything in the Koran, well bully for them. Such infidel attempts haven’t worked out too well so far.

    But heck–Sing along!

    All we are saying is
    give them
    ANOTHER FREAKING CHANCE to kill us.

    :-( :-( :-(

    And no, we’re not all on the same side here. Is Naseem on our side?

  10. says

    No, Naseem is not on our side, but mostly, everyone here has similar opinions of the ROP. That is what I meant when I asked that question. My apologies for not being more clear.

  11. says

    To everyone,

    It seems to me that one must accept what Islam says it is, meaning 9:5 and 9:29. It has always acted like this outwardly, not caring what anyone else thought because they were the biggest bully in town.

    In the beginning, ALL Muslims were jihadists. Muhammad recognized that not everyone could actually FIGHT (those that could but didn’t were called hypocrites and were dooomed to hell) so the fighters fought and the others supported the jihad in other ways, like zakat (required charity, an oxymoron). As Islam spread by the sword, the fighters fought and conquered while the worker ant Muslims moved in after them, taking their land, using the conquered as slaves, using the jizyah that was collected.

    Then the slow death of Islam started because of two things: (1) there is only so much blood you can suck from a stone and the conquered populations either died or converted, leaving no one to create any wealth for the Muslims to live on, and (2) the rise of the West and its eventual superiority in military power.

    We now see the spectacle of Muslims telling the Infidel that Islam does NOT mean what it clearly says and has always said. They also point to the ‘peaceful’ Muslims “who wouldn’t hurt a fly” and who just want to go to the mosque on Fridays (saying what to a god who says what?).

    Ask any ‘peaceful’ Muslim what they believe. They HAVE to say, “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger

    Now try to explain to them the truth about Muhammad and Allah and see how peaceful they are.

    Ali Sina is right: Muslims who are not deaf and dumb must by now have learned the truth about Islam and hence must leave it. If they do not, they are to be considered the enemy.

    Daniel Pipes continues to spout the existence or possibility of “moderate Islam”, which he knows damn well never existed.

    It is not up to us to clean up Islam, but Muslims themselves. But that is an impossible task without gutting the very foundation of the religion: Muhammad, the Hadith and the Koran.

    The only choice is to not play the game AT ALL.

    Ethelred

  12. says

    Sorry Prickzilla. Didn’t mean to seem as if I was snapping at you. It was really meant as subtext for AI.

    As long as we’re fuzzy on what threat they represent to us (some of them are perfectly nice and I often have them over for barbecues lalala, “you can’t lump them all together, that’s not right!”), that leaves us vulnerable personally and as a society.

    The point is we don’t know and we can’t know what their intentions are or what they’re capable of if they should “snap”.

    Are there Jack Muslims? Yeah. But I’m leaving it up to AI to give us the template so we can all recognize them until then, they’re all lumped together because I love life more than death.

  13. says

    That’s ok Whistling Dixie. I too enjoy life more than I would death. We cannot tell tem apart because the ones that aren’t talking are sitting on the sidelines.

    Until that changes, things won’t be different.

    I like this part of D.C. Watson’s article-
    “Islamic migrants who come here and are offended by us can blame the ridicule and scrutiny that they experience only on themselves”.

    So true. We don’t owe Muslims any aopolgies for living in freedom.

  14. says

    AI has no template for anyone to follow in telling which Muslims in America are the nuts and which of the few are not. That would be nice to have. What else would be nice is to be able to obtain a list of the members of CAIR, MPAC, and some of these other Islamic flocks. That would be a good start.

  15. says

    Tolerance goes only so far before it becomes submission. The Arabic word for submission is Islam.

    Bloody hell. That says it all, mates!

  16. says

    Freedom of conscience is guaranteed by the constitutions of free countries. But this guarantee is accompanied by the separation of Church and State. In other words, not only do all citizens have a right to follow their own religion, they have a right to be free of their neighbor’s beliefs as well.

    Islam has a very clear political agenda which is antithetical to freedom of conscience and separation of Church and State. The posting provides sufficient evidence of this agenda. This puts Islam in the category of a political party, representative of a hostile foreign power, the Ummah. Why should there be any problem in restricting the presence of enemy aliens in democractic countries? Let those Muslims who wish to stay in the Free World abrogate the Qur’an in such a way as to allow themselves to live in peace with their neighbors or let them pack their things and leave.

  17. says

    Rottweiller,

    There is no such thing as ‘radical’ Islam, there is only Islam.

    To even use the term implies that there is an Islam that is not radical, which is not true.

    There are Muslims that are not radical but that could change at any moment.

    Ethelred

  18. says

    Otterfisher,

    You are saying exactly what Ali Sina has been saying for years.

    What could a so-called “moderate” Muslim living in America be thinking about Islam after reading the newspapers and watching TV every day?

    Is he saying, “That is not the true Islam”? If so, he is either a liar or so stupid he should be deported for stupidity. In either case he should be shown the door.

    Ethelred

  19. says

    Ethelred, Otter, and Dixie. Let me make it clear, I have been posting on and off here for months. I am as against the spread of Islam in the West as anyone else here. I despise its teachings, period. I despise Islam’s madman false prophet, and its phony moon God.

    The point is, that there are Muslims in the US that don’t follow the beliefs they were born into. They don’t go to mosques, and they aren’t here to destroy anything but the memories they have of their Muslim homeland, which is most likely war torn, as many Muslim nations are. Once some of them got here, and got a taste of freedom, they aren’t so ready to ride the flying carpet of Islam anymore.

    That’s all. Not everyone born into Islam is some robot that wants death to America. Most do, and the ones who don’t are in the minority, but they do exist.

  20. says

    ..will these moderate muslims we allow to dwell amongst us refrain from, e.g., the following activities(from the Anis Sharrosh op/ed linked in D.C.’s excellent piece..)

    1. Terminate America’s freedom of speech by replacing it with statewide and nationwide hate-crime bills.

    4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.

    7. Yell ”foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran” anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.
    ****
    ..the 20 points below..
    “A refugee from the Muslim Middle East thinks he has discovered Islam’s 20-point plan for conquering the United States by 2020 – a plan revealed in the latest issue of Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin.

    Anis Shorrosh, author of ”Islam Revealed” and ”The True Furqan,” is a Christian Arab-American who emigrated from Arab-controlled Jerusalem in January 1967.

    ”The following is my analysis of Islamic invasion of America, the agenda of Islamists and visible methods to take over America by the year 2020,” Shorrosh says. ”Will Americans continue to sleep through this invasion as they did when we were attacked on 9/11?”

    1. Terminate America’s freedom of speech by replacing it with statewide and nationwide hate-crime bills.

    2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities who promote Islam as the religion of African-Americans while insisting Christianity is for whites only. What they fail to tell African-Americans is that it was Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves. In fact, the Arabic word for black and slave is the same, ”Abed.”

    3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.

    4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.

    5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or a controlling stock.

    6. Yield to the fear of the imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of America – black gold. America’s economy depends on oil and 41 percent of it comes from the Middle East.

    7. Yell ”foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran” anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.

    8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions and get membership in local school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. (Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?) Take over the computer industry. Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way.

    9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via:

    Massive immigration (100,000 annually since 1961).

    Use no birth control whatsoever – every baby of Muslim parents is automatically a Muslim and cannot choose another religion later.

    Muslim men must marry American women and Islamize them (10,000 annually). Then divorce them and remarry every five years – since one can’t legally marry four at one time. This is a legal solution in America.

    Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants (so far 2,000 released inmates have joined al-Qaida worldwide). Only a few ”sleeper cells” have been captured in Afghanistan and on American soil.
    10. Reading, writing, arithmetic and research through the American educational system, mosques and student centers (now 1,500) should be sprinkled with dislike of Jews, evangelical Christians and democracy. There are currently 300 exclusively Muslim schools in the U.S. which teach loyalty to the Quran, not the U.S. Constitution. In January of 2002, Saudi Arabia’s Embassy in Washington mailed 4,500 packets of the Quran and videos promoting Islam to America’s high schools – free of charge. Saudi Arabia would not allow the U.S. to reciprocate.

    11. Provide very sizeable monetary Muslim grants to colleges and universities in America to establish ”Centers for Islamic studies” with Muslim directors to promote Islam in higher-education institutions.

    12. Let the entire world know through propaganda, speeches, seminars, local and national media that terrorists have hijacked Islam, when in truth, Islam hijacked the terrorists.

    13. Appeal to the historically compassionate and sensitive Americans for sympathy and tolerance towards Muslims in America who are portrayed as mainly immigrants from oppressed countries.

    14. Nullify America’s sense of security by manipulating the intelligence community with misinformation. Periodically terrorize Americans with reports of impending attacks on bridges, tunnels, water supplies, airports, apartment buildings and malls.

    15. Form riots and demonstrations in the prison system demanding Islamic Sharia as the way of life, not America’s justice system.

    16. Open numerous charities throughout the U.S., but use the funds to support Islamic terrorism with American dollars.

    17. Raise interest in Islam on America’s campuses by insisting freshman take at least one course on Islam.

    18. Unify the numerous Muslim lobbies in Washington, mosques, Islamic student centers, educational organizations, magazines and papers by Internet and an annual convention to coordinate plans, propagate the faith and engender news in the media.

    19. Send intimidating messages and messengers to the outspoken individuals who are critical of Islam and seek to eliminate them by hook or crook. “

  21. says

    oops..point 20..

    20. Applaud Muslims as loyal citizens of the U.S. by spotlighting their voting record as the highest percentage of all minority and ethic groups in America.

    Shorrosh is a member of the Oxford Society of Scholars, has traveled in 76 countries, and is a lecturer and producer of TV documentaries. ”Islam Revealed” is a bestseller now in its eighth printing. His forthcoming 10th book, from which the 20-point plan is abridged, is titled ”Islam: A Threat or a Challenge.”

    ”The True Furqan” is also available for viewing on Islam-Exposed.org. Shorrosh’s new website is Focusing-on-Islam.com.

  22. says

    ..”will these moderate muslims we allow to dwell amongst us refrain from, e.g., the following activities”

    Nope, there doesn’t appear to be nearly enough of them stop the likes of CAIR and MPAC. That’s why it’s up to us to stop it.

    I made a small point on a very large issue. And the answer is to not allow continued Muslim immigration into America. That’s the best way I know. If they’re not here in the first place, then they can do nothing here to this country.

  23. says

    The Russkies rank high on this list. So what the hell does Putin and Co. think its doing selling weaponry to Iran homeland of Hizbollah?????

  24. says

    Asylum,

    Say you:

    The point is, that there are Muslims in the US that don’t follow the beliefs they were born into. They don’t go to mosques, and they aren’t here to destroy anything but the memories they have of their Muslim homeland, which is most likely war torn, as many Muslim nations are. Once some of them got here, and got a taste of freedom, they aren’t so ready to ride the flying carpet of Islam anymore.

    An extension of my point is this: how will these “nominal” Muslims keep their children and grandchildren (etc, etc) from turning to the true faith?

    Islam itself must be exposed, denounced and hopefully banned as a religion. Let it exist in the same sphere as Nazism.

    Ethelred

  25. says

    Asylum,

    Say you:

    The point is, that there are Muslims in the US that don’t follow the beliefs they were born into. They don’t go to mosques, and they aren’t here to destroy anything but the memories they have of their Muslim homeland, which is most likely war torn, as many Muslim nations are. Once some of them got here, and got a taste of freedom, they aren’t so ready to ride the flying carpet of Islam anymore.

    An extension of my point is this: how will these “nominal” Muslims keep their children and grandchildren (etc, etc) from turning to the true faith?

    Islam itself must be exposed, denounced and hopefully banned as a religion. Let it exist in the same sphere as Nazism.

    Ethelred

  26. says

    Well researched piece, D.C.

    I am always amused by “muslim visions of America” in which all of America’s grandeur is under muslim ownership.

    These delusionional rantings assume that there will be no civil unrest or war as islam starts its takeover, and that poverty will not follow as islam shuts down the liquor/wine industry, fashion industry, pet/veterinary industry, non-religious programming, farming, etc.

    When you consider the inept muslim response to the 2004 tsunami and 2005 Pakistani earthquake, can you imagine the muslims dealing with tornadoes, earthquakes, flooding, hurricanes, snow storms, wildfires and assorted disasters that beset the U.S. every year? The entire country will be one refugee zone if the muslims ever take it over.

    I’m afraid for all the “visions” of a muslim empire in America the only thing that awaits a muslim America is the same misery that islam bestows on all its victims.

  27. says

    Asylum – “The point is, that there are Muslims in the US that don’t follow the beliefs they were born into”

    That’s an oxymoron. You are referring to “Msulims” as a race here, which many of them desperately want to be seen as. If you no longer follow a particular belief system, you aren’t referred to as a member of it. So they can’t be muslims if they don’t follow the beliefs.
    They also shouldn’t have the appearance of support of such beliefs by doing nothing. When the trade centers came down, there were muslims all over celebrating, some even here in the US. Yet some of the “muslims” that don’t follow the beliefs just sat idly by, condoning the act through their silence and therefor are guilty by association in my book. I’m a Christian, but I don’t want to be viewed as some “radical Christian” so I don’t associate myself with people that can be viewed that way. The muslims in this country (and the “muslims” who aren’t “muslims”)have to start speaking out and condemning the actions of radicals if they don’t want to be treated as radicals themselves.