Another Oh-For-Pete's-Sake Alert. "Denmark’s offensive Jewish cookies," from the European Jewish Press, with thanks to D. C. Watson:
A group of Danish Muslims refuse to eat traditional “Jewish” cookies because they feel offended by the name.According to the daily Danish newspaper B.T., Ole Poulsen, head of the public food consumer department said that the Muslim refusal to buy the cookies could have an effect on sales.
"If this will be the case, then we would be obliged to do something about it," he declared.
He added that changing the product name was a possibility, as had in the past been done with the “Negroes’ kiss” cakes, which were rebranded with a more neutral name.
Educating population
Jewish cookies, which are made with cinnamon and hazelnuts and actually have nothing particularly Jewish about them, are very popular in Denmark during the pre-Christmas period.
Denmark’s chief rabbi, Bent Lexner, said that he did not see any problem in a name change.
“There is nothing Jewish in it and I wouldn’t mind another name, but I think that it would be better to educate Muslims to respect the culture of the majority in Denmark, if they want the majority to respect their culture".
of course, Rabbi Lexner.
Cookies, cartoons, soccer balls, ice cream cone swirls, piggy banks, Christmas, Holocaust Day, the Red Cross, Nike shoes, Coca-cola, and Jews. All of these things Muslims find offensive.
I guess they're not buying the Crusader Donuts, either...
It's funny how they find so many tiny things "offensive" -- but just look at all the things they DON'T find offensive:
mass murder of infidels
female genital mutilation
beheadings of infidels
slavery
suicide bombing
honor killings
religious racism (theirs against other peoples' religions)
car-b-ques
Nary a word about the above, but ice cream cone swirls and Piglet cartoons send them into paroxysms of injured feelings.
Let me guess hot cross buns do not sell well to Muslims I supose. Any complaints about the buns?
Who gives a rip if the muslims don't like the cookies? Unless the sales of Jewish cookies is a make-or-break deal to Danish grocers like Christmas sales are to retailers here in the U.S., the muslims' dislike for these cookies shouldn't be anyone's concern. Why even write and acknowledge their dislike and give a voice to their feelings? And why even consider changing the name of something that is part of Danish tradition to accomodate them? Forget about educating them. Eat the Jewish cookies in front of them and wish them a Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah!
Thank g-d the Rabbi dealt with this using understanding and "polite condemnation" rather than a some hot-headed response.
Whenever extremests do something nutty, it is always best to take the high-road.
Sure, it doesn't feel as nearly as good but it is so effective.
Mazel-Tov Rabbi Lexner!
Crusader Donuts LOL!
Actually, I asked an online Muslim discussion group about the board in Britain's decision to ban pig images. The impression they gave me was that most Muslims aren't offended by pig images.
Personally, I think most of it is kowtowing to individual gadflys. It's "creeping dhimmitude".
"Just eat, eat it
Grab yourself an egg and beat it"
- Wierd Al Jankovic
Why must you be such an angry young muzzie
Laugh at Mo cartoons and eat your Jewish cookies and beat it
- Islamophobic Pride
Well now, here we have muslims getting upset over a name. Jewish cookies, which really have nothing Jewish about them. So what, exactly, is the problem? Muslims not getting their way, something offends them, so it has to go, that's what. Whiney, crybaby muslims, who need to go back to sucking on their moms teat, learn some manners, learn to deal with things that don't appeal to them, especially in nations where the culture is one based on personal freedoms. This is rediculous. Muslims getting upset over the name of a cookie. So now, everything in America that has an even remotely muslim sounding name, or denotes something islamic, we can complain until the name is changed? If that's the case, then I have a long list of things that the name needs to go. CAIR, ramadan, Eid al-fitr, halal, madrashah.....Oh, wait, it doesn't work like that. Only muslims get their way, they're the only ones who will kill you over it. Everyone else just learns to deal with it. We know how to laugh at ourselves. Muslims, whiney, snot-nosed, crybaby muslims. Kill you if you don't give into them....religion of peace, god of mercy and compassion indeed...what a load of bs...
"Kookie,Kookie, lend me your comb.."
-Edd Byrnes (1959)
There are so many things in Denmark that need to be banned if Muslims are to feel at home. There is that terrible story ("The Jewish Girl") by Hans Christian Andersen -- in which he expresses such tender sympathy for the girl, instead of wanting to kill her. Surely that should be enough to have all of Hans Christian Andersen (and note that off-putting middle name) from Danish schools. Who needs him?
And please, in science class, or in any list of famous Danes, kindly omit all mention of Niels Bohr, with that Jewish mother, and his obvious sympathies -- remember how angry he was with Heisenberg just for that little bit of work on atomic physics that the latter performed for Adolf Hitler? How mean can you get? No, skip Niels Bohr, and don't mention his brother Harald either. In fact, skip Tycho Brahe as well, because his data helped to confirm Kepler, and Kepler built upon Copernicus, and Copernicus's theory, as part of the whole story of so-called Western scientific achievement -- when everyone knows all of science is already contained in the Qur'an, and there is nothing further to discover, ever, by anyone -- is highly disturbing, and deeply humiliating, and therefore not to be tolerated, by Musilm students, and since they cannot be expected to simply leave the classroom when such matters are raised, simply leave it out. If non-Muslims want to read about Niels Bohr or Tycho Brahe or some stupid story by Hans Christian Andersen, they can do it on their own time, at home -- they don't need to do it in Danish schools. Oh, and one more thing. That whole story, about how the Danes, and the Danish king, behaved during World War II? Skip it. We don't like it. It forces us to get angry, and we don't like to do that. Don't make us do that. Don't cause trouble in the schools.
Please. Try to build a New Danish Curriculum for a New Denmark. Doesn't that make sense -- if you want to avoid trouble, instead of deliberately being a troublemaker?
How 51% Muslim societies over time become 99% Muslim:
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/mazdak.htm
Cinnamon and hazelnuts? Vus is dus?! A goyishe kichel!
Seriously, I could understand if Muslims were offended by Hamantaschen, as Haman was certainly one of their heros but these Danish cookies have been pinned on us!
"A group of Danish Muslims refuse to eat traditional “Jewish” cookies because they feel offended by the name."
Wait a minute... I thought the drill went something like this: We're not against Jeeews per se , we're not anti-Semites! We're anti "ZIONIST.
So which one is it, you bigoted homicidal liars? Who's the racist? Get your story straight...
Aren't you offended by the way that Muslims are offended by everything non-Muslims do and say? I am.
Shy Guy,
You're always good for a laugh.
But here's the sad part of this story:
If fewer people would buy those cookies, in protest of a name change, then Ole Poulsen will look pretty silly for that. I can't imagine that Danish Muslims have just now figured out what the cookies are called, and suspect they haven't purchased many of them in the past anyway.
In addition, I think that JordanR (above) is correct and the good rabbi's thinking is bass ackwards.
Danes should take and maintain the high road, and Muslims should be expected to explain (until every Dane 'gets it') what they find so offensive about the word 'Jewish'.
How long before they complain about the Danish flag because it is a cross?
I'm surprised, surprised that all true Christians haven't taken to the streets over the croissant, that buttery dainty in the shape of . . . wait for it . . . the Muslim crescent!
I think that it would be better to educate Muslims to respect the culture of the majority in Denmark, if they want the majority to respect their culture.
So simple. So sensible. (and the cookies sound so delicious) So why don't more of our leaders say it?
Surely, this is a must this Christmas in the cookie jar =)
Jewish Cookies (Jødekager) Denne side på dansk
The pastry is unbelievably easy to work with
Print recipe
Ingredients:
400 g butter
500 g white flour
200 g icing sugar
1 tsp ammonium carbonate
2 eggs
perl sugar and cinnamon mixed
Method:
Rub the butter into the flour. Mix in the icing sugar and the ammonium carbonate. Whip the eggs together and fold in.
Roll the pastry out with a rolling pin and stencil round shapes out with a glass (diameter around 6 cm). Brush with a little egg and drizzle with the pearl sugar and cinnamon mix. A little finely chopped almond can be drizzled on if desired.
Bake for 6 minutes at 200°C (390°F). Cool and store in an airtight container.
source:
http://www.danish-deli-food.com/English/cookbook/recepdetail.asp?recid=362
This really takes the biscuit.
(Well somebody had to say it.)
Imli - sounds delicious.
Sorry to be serious about a trivial matter, but I don't think the Rabbi's response was the right one. This is classic 'thin end of the wedge' (or should that be biscuit?) territory. Changing the name - however 'non-Jewish' this biscuit is, concedes that the word 'Jewish' is in itself offensive to Muslims - i.e. it concedes that Muslims are allowed to be inherently anti-semitic. It's the word not the biscuit that is important here. The PC brigade make much of 'PC'language, and language is without doubt an important battlefield. The Rabbi makes an elegant statement, but without getting 'hot headed' about the issue, he does need to stand firmer. As for Hamantaschen, I recently got an email announcing they had been banned under the Geneva Convention ('eating the enemy is wrong'). I was just about to get flustered when I realised it was a joke!
Thanks a lot mark52, for mentioning hot cross buns! I've been craving them ever since I saw your entry! Where can I get them in December? I've tried making them myself, but I've never been able to make the cross stick to the bun.
Geeze, by the muslim token, as a Jew I suppose i should be offened by christmas pudding (I have a great recipe if any one needs it?) and easter eggs!
You can get Kosher Christmas pudding.
Dear Robert,
I would like to thank you for all the good work you do at your websites.
This article serves to illustrate the way our world is offended every day by irregular way of our fellows Muslims thinking.
Let's be creative. Let's fight back with the same weapon. Why shouldn't we be offended by "Arabic Numerals"? What about fine Persian Rice? Smelling Arabica beans?
Sounds stupid enough? Unfortunately, not for those Dannish Muslim leaders…
Why should the political corretness go by one way road?
RE: Why should the political corretness go by one way road?
Time for a movement against "political correctness" as it is nothing more than "thought control"
I am free to say whatever I please, even if it is offensive, stupid, moronic or whatever as that is the "higher principle."
Political correctness leads to stagnation of thought.
Thinking and thoughts are a process not the "end result"
Hugh: have you ever seen a documentary entitled "The Danish Solution" which details how the occupied Danish population responded to Germany's attack on Denmark's Jews? My, how times seem to have changed.
If Denmark's Muslims are offended by a name given to a type of cookie, then how do they reconcile themselves living in a country with a rather vast pork producing industry? And how will Denmark respond if the Muslims start to agitate against that industry?
This is so ridiculous you'd wonder how anyone could be so petty - I mean do we stop eating Turkish Delight or Rum Babas [not entirely sure of latter but was told it was Turkish,lots of hypocritical Muzzies smoke & drink] because of THE NAME?? I personally am OFFENDED EFFENDI BY THESE BLOODY BIGOTS WITHOUT A SENSE OF HUMOUR.
I think I'll start calling "Turkish baths" "Constantinople caldariums" instead.
Catchy, no?
No?
:(
how the occupied Danish population responded to Germany's attack on Denmark's Jews
Saved their bacon.
Kemaste -
BRILLIANT point.
This, gentlemen, is the rub. Indeed.
Their problem, as always, is with Jews, not Zionists. Go to any islamic website, argue with them, and see what they call you. Not a Zionist - a Jew. And they mean it as an insult.
Me, I was quite honoured.
Geoff
kufr: Ughn.
I find it hard to believe that any hindu converts to islam by free will. Especially in those areas.
Friend of one of my best friends converted from hinduism to islam and at least her husband and family are people that are at least just normal and use religion in a more normal way.
But still, the fundamentals of the srimad-bhagavad gita and the upanishads are so radically different than what the quran shows.
It all just hurts my head. I am buddhist myself and do not believe in any ideas of a god, but above all I just want people to live together, but time and time again when I examine the details of cultures and religions, like Siddharta Gautama always said to thoroughly examine anything on your path, islam is such a monstrosity to my senses.
I'm waiting for the fatwa against Girl Guide cookies.
Why shouldn't we be offended by "Arabic Numerals"?
Because they arent arabic? Arent they Persian or Indian?
Muslims are just testing the limits of patience of their host population, just like children constantly test the limits of patience of their parents, even when they are old enough to know what's right and wrong, what's allowed and what's not. It's a power struggle, and the "Jewish cookies" issue is obviously just an excuse. Yesterday it was the printing on an ice cream cone wrap, today it is Jewish cookies, tomorrow it will be something else.
I don't doubt for a second that eventually, strong, fascist leaders will be elected throughout Europe, who will take care of the Muslim problem. If history is any indication, economic collapse will be the final straw.
"There is something rotten in the state of Denmark"
Just for context, consider that at least two of the more famous Christmas songs in the Great American
Songbook (White Christmas, and "The Christmas Song",
you know, 'chestnuts roasting on an open fire') were
written by Jews.
Hopefully the USA will pick up some more Jews when
Europe goes up in flmaes again.
consider that at least two of the more famous Christmas songs in the Great American
Songbook ....were written by Jews.
When I was a student a gang of us went carol singing for charity in the market square. Two of our gang were Jewish. "Look," they said, "we don't really know these carols that well. Shall we just do what we Jews do best?"
So they took the hat round and charmed rather a good collection out of the shoppers.
What about a compromise...
The cookies could actually look like little Jews and the offended muslims can take their anger out on the cookies!!! Chop off the head, blow it up with a firecracker, and then go Idi Amin on it!!!
Someone else 'offended'..
"School gives "giving tree" the ax
By Rachel Tuinstra
Seattle Times Eastside bureau
Medina Elementary School's phone lines were lighting up Tuesday with calls from people upset or pleased that the school had removed a metal "giving tree" after a parent complained about its religious connotations.
Paper mittens hung from the lighted, spiral-shaped tree, each with gift ideas attached that students could use as a wish list to purchase toys and other items for needy children.
After the ornamental tree was removed on Monday, the mittens were moved to a nearby counter in the school office area so the gift-giving would not be impeded, said Christine Metzger, officer manager at the school.
"[The tree] offended someone, so we removed it," Metzger said.
The giving tree was organized by the Community Kids program, and the gifts are going to needy students from the Lake Hills area in Bellevue."
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002669194_givingtree07e.html
I'm in favor of offending the Islamofascists even more. They should be reminded that, every time they enter a coffee shop or eat a crescent pastry or bagel, they are commemorating one of the most humiliating and shameful defeats that was ever inflicted on the Islamic world.
Per the Polish-American Journal, the coffee shop, crescent pastry, and later the bagel were invented as a direct result of the defeat of a Turkish army at Vienna at 1683. It may be added that the Crimean Tartars ran away without striking a blow; I guess they didn't want to meet Allah and their 72 virgins that day.
http://www.polamjournal.com/Library/APHistory/coffee/coffee.html
The spoils of war— the booty— were divided amongst the victors. But the [captured] bags of coffee beans were strange items to the Viennese. While coffee was already known in England, Marseilles and Paris, it was unfamiliar to most of continental Europe.
The grateful Viennese presented Kulczycki with a house in the Inner Stadt, the inner city or Old Town. Here the enterprising Pole established the first coffee house in Central Europe. ...Kulczycki also created an appropriately designed piece of pastry which he served with this new intoxicating brew.
This first pastry he made was in the form of the Turkish crescent, or half moon, a symbol on the [captured] Turkish banners. Legend also claims it was based on the form of the jeweled stirrups of the Polish King's saddle. [Actually, Sobieski captured a jeweled stirrup from the Turkish commander, Kara Mustafa, as the latter fled the field in terror.] The pastry design eventually evolved into other molds, one of which is the present round, hard-glazed doughnut shaped roll, known as the bagel.
Jewish cookies--they're the ones baked with blood, right?
This is 100% bona fide anti-semitism and utterly unacceptable.
This group of Danish Muslims has crossed the line.
They no doubt view anything Jewish, including Jews themselves, as being demonic.
I am appalled. This is utterly sickening.
Excellent suggestion, XRDC!
The "final solution" that harms nobody!
I believe that the numerals usually called "arabic" were invented in India, not by Arabs, who only transmitted the concept to the West.
Now, those who say the name is a matter of principle are right. Further, the Arabs/Muslims' contemptuous arrogance and hypocrisy won't stop with "Jewish cookies."
As to the excuse, that their hatred of Jews is only because of Zionism, here are links about Muslim hatred and persecution of Jews before Zionism, before Theodore Herzl was even born. One quotes from Edward Lane, who lived in Egypt in the 1830s and wrote an important book about it. Eddy Said didn't like Lane.
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2005/11/jews-as-ultimate-underdog-in-arab.html
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2005/12/jewish-sages-in-islamic-lands-identify.html
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2005/12/jews-persecuted-in-19th-century-egypt.html
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2005/06/karl-marx-on-treatment-of-jewish_16.html
In fact this oppression and exploitation go back before the Crusades:
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2005/11/muslimsarabs-exploiting-jews-in.html
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2005/11/exploiting-jews-in-jerusalem-before.html
You can see that Muslim/Arab persecution-oppression-exploitation of the Jews go way back, before Napoleon, before the Crusades. The site that I have linked to has a link back to Tacitus who pointed out Arab hatred of Jews in the first century CE [Tacitus, Histories, 5:1].
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2005/05/arabs-helped-romans-destroy-temple.html
Obviously, Zionism and Israel are only an excuse. And why the Armenian massacres in 1896, a year before the First Zionist Congress?