By the way, I have been meaning to tell you that the Jihad Watch website received well over 13 million hits in November: 13,582,558 to be exact. Also, the counter was down for two whole days and parts of two others; otherwise I think we would have gotten to 14 or even 15 million, since during the month we averaged over 500,000 hits a day.
Word is getting out. Thank you for all your support and encouragement.
Robert you have much to be proud of! and l am sure you are thankful for your help on this website! the one plus l find on this website, is the ability to
make comments and get feedback, this is a great learning tool! again Congratulations on your success!
l should correct one of the plus's!!
So all those cards and flyers and stickers, left wherever seems viable on 3 continents are paying dividends.
Congratulations on the courage that you have shown.
But!!!
More hits = greater target
So beware!!
These islamic scum are quite capable of anyhthing and you know it
For me, it is valuable to voice the moderate side of Islam....thank you Mr. Spencer & take care.
I am a new visitor to JW and I appreciate the work that you are doing.
Keep up the great work! I will continue to let my friends and colleagues know about the website.
This website has been an invaluable learning tool for me. Thanks for what you are doing.
I am stunned but very glad that your Web Site has so many hits.
It clearly indicates that people are very concerned about the issues of Jihad.
Maybe there is hope after all!!
Great news Robert. Keep on keeping on.
Maybe there is hope after all!!
There is always hope, although it always needs a little practical help.
Keep up the good work Robert. 13 mil (+) hits on this site but one big hit on the evil religion of the tyrant.
Congratulations Robert!
As we all know, 'forewarned is forearmed'.
Thank you and kindest regards,
Ray
Yoohoo! Honestly, Jihadwatch and maybe a few other blogs are the only places where I can get the unvarnished, unspun truth about what the heck is going on in this world of ours!
I'm leaving my Jihadwatch business cards everywhere I can.
Congrad Thomas, (hal here) but we have a problem (wife n i) cuz we are Catholics. Looks to us like the Church considers The Koran a holy book, and conciders Allah to be Jesus Christ. "we worship the same God" is a thing said amoungst other things favorable about this relegion. All this can mean to us is that Muslims have a religion that can, with modification, be redeemed. This seems far-fetched to us - but, well, we are Catholics, so, we wait to see what the hell is going on more or less paralyzed. Should we fight or should we attempt the impossible seeming reform of Muslim dogma?
Wow.
Simply wow.
Am happy and proud to have been associated in any way with this enormous effort - preparation for the struggle to save our civilizational values and goodness and sanity for generations to come.
Congratulations and Thank You, Robert.
"Looks to us like the Church considers The Koran a holy book, and conciders Allah to be Jesus Christ."
-- from a posting above
This is false. The Catholic Chruch does NOT consider the Qur'an to be a holy book, and does NOT consider "Allah to be Jesus Christ." Read the Catechism. Read Habib Malik. Read Pope Benedict, who has written a great deal on Islam. For that matter, read Henri Lammens, S. J., one of the best writers of Islam who ever lived. T
I don't where you have gotten the idea that "the chruc.. consideres Allah to be Jesus Christ." Either you know nothing about the Muslm Jesus -- google "the Muslim Jesus" and find out how Islam appropriated large amounts of Judaism and Christianity, but in a completely distorted fashion. The Muslim "Jesus" has nothing to do with the Christian "Jesus." Read the Catechism, for god's sake.
Or perhaps this is meant as a deliberate provocation. Or have you been listening to soothing Muslims conducting Da'wa, and trying to fool you? Anything is possible these days.
The Muslim Jesus is not the Son of God (and those who believe He is are to be punished, guilty of shirk, of not being true monotheissts). He was not crucified (though those wicked Jews think they did it, in the Muslim view). Similarly, the Jews apparently have some believe in a Son of God, one Uzra (Ezra). It all gets crazier and crazier in the Muslim version. Just remember that for 1350 years, Islam has been based on a complete opposition of Believer (Muslim) and Infidel (non-Muslim). That runs through everything. It cannot be ignored. It cannot change, for it is based on canonical texts that are deemed immutable -- how do you change the passages in the Qur'an, that uncreated book that comes from Allah? You can't. How do you change what Muhammad said, or did, or the details of his life? You can't.
They're stuck. And so, therefore, and alas, are we. But pretending Islam is not Islam, crazily misinterpreting its most basic notions (who have you been listening to? Did you go to some Muslim-Christian Outreach thing, where somebody lied and lied about "how we revere Jesus" and "we all worship the same God" and "we all believe in the same God" -- only a schoolgirl at this point should fall for that kind of thing). Good God.
I purchased the PIG Guide to Islam upon the recommendation of a instructor in a class I am taking. I have now purchased other books to read.
I had to scrap what I THOUGHT I knew about Islam and start over.
Now when I hear the phrase Islam is a religion of peace its hipwader time!
Just say no to apologism for Jihadists.
Until Islam undergoes a reformation and secularism is introduced and Muslims are free to question Islam we have some Jihadists that will be a threat to our freedoms
We were discussing the 12 intelligence failures in class that led to 911. The first was imagination... However, my instructor made an interesting remark in a private discussion, there can be no imagination without education.
99% of our problem was defined in that
Great News, Robert. Keep up the excellent work!
Hal here Hugh, thanks for answering - No, hugh! We are not deceived by anyone, and we are fairly well read - from Pope Paul 6 to John Paul 2 to Benedict - they all say nice things about the Musbots and their "Living, thinking, Mighty Book, which can reach out to kill anyone and their families who dare critcize it. But, perhaps we have not read widely enough. Can you recommend sources where we can see that the Pope does not consider that Allah to be the same God we worship? We hope so. But we believe Jesus is God, hence Allah=Jesus! What else? Jesus is not even mentioned in the Koran by any name that even remotely resembles the name "Jesus". The name they use is the same as Esdra - and this guy's mother is not named Mary - why even believe the Koran's mention of Jesus other than Allah, which the Church says is just another word for God? (Jesus = God) We are looking at all the official stuff, from Vat 2 till now, and all we can find is glowing discriptions - very distressing for us who have been following the Musbots progress for years now! We don't mind being wrong, we hope we are. However, we are unable to find information that you have found - would greatly appreciate having such - Love, Hal
I'm a new poster to this site. I came across it by accident while doing my own
research on Islam and Mohammed. To me this place is the place where all
roads should lead for people traveling their own journey trying to figure out
just what all this noise and smoke is about. While I have been looking and
reading for a good bit of this year, I think this community largely condenses
all of the pertinent facts down to an elixer. Thanks for the continuing enlightenment!
BTW -- can anyone tell me why I can't get a longer line length than this? I don't intend for my lines to be so short in my posts.
Disregard above. The lines lengths are fine if I copy and paste from Word.
Try any of Pope Benedict's writings. Start with the book he wrote with Michele Pera, "Senza Radici" which by now is surely in English. Wherever Ratzinger, Pope Benedict, discusses Islam, he does so truthfully. And before Vatican II, which may indeed have contained some pious wilful misunderstanding of Islam, the Popes -- remember Pope Urban, and what he said? -- were uniformly dead set against Islam. How could anyone imagine otherwise? How could they not be? The misunderstanding of Islam in the Western world goes back not much more than 50 years, if that.
In that period, more focus was put on "anti-colonialism" which permitted appeals to Western sense of fairness, Western guilt (planted hither and yon, diligently watered, given Miracle-Gro at regular intervals), and as the French, giving up Morocco and Tunisia just about then, still held on to Algeria for another 8 years, and since there were still a handful of British garrisons in Aden and the Persian Gulf sheikhdoms, and since the "Arabists" half-in-love with Islam and greatly disliking Israel were in all the chanceries of the West (where they hired others just like them, or replacements who were even worse). Islam was seen, in Washington and elsewhere, as a "bulwark against Communism." What Islam was also against went carefully un-investigated. Meanwhile the older generation of scholars died out, or retired, or were silenced, and the newer Western students of Islam were, linguistically and intellectually, far inferior to those they replaced, and many of them accepted the Idols of the Age, and among those Idols, the idea of the Arabs and Muslims as third-worlders, more sinned against than sinning, helped people to ignore the nature of Islam. And so they did, not only vis-a-vis Israel and the West, but they took sides against the Hindus and the Christians in Pakistan and Bangladesh and Kashmir and Indonesia and the Philippines and the Sudan and West Africa, and Nigeria, and everywhere. This didn't happen all at once. It happened, more and more, after the Six-Day War, when it was easier to redefine the Jihad against Israel as a "Palestinian" nationalist fight, and especialy after 1973, when the oil money beckoned, and people who were making private deals with the Arabs, highly-placed people, managed to convince others in government and the press of their own countrites that appeasement of the Arabs and other Muslims involved in oil was necesary, becuase somehow we were to believe that buying and selling of oil depended not on paying the market price, but on paying that price and in addition doing political favors. It was entirely false, but it helped to justify the appeasement which the Arabs wanted, and for which they were willing to pay sums to private parties. Think of Jacques Chirac, John Connally, Fred Dutton, James Akins, all those people and groups, including some Washington publications, funded directly or indirectly by Arab interests. They are still at it -- look at Esposito's well-funded operation, and who pays him.
Hal here, thanks Hugh - we will do as you say - thanks for the time you gave us, Love, Hal T.O.P.
Any numbers on unique visitors?
Thanks for the ride Spencer...it is very informative and lively here at JW, keep up the good work and thank you for your dedication.
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Hal,
Isa (Jesus) is mentioned in the Koran more than any other, he is portrayed as a prophet and his held in high regards.
Islam:
One of the central prophets, as well as miracle worker (always called Isa).
Well done and a huge thank-you to Robert, Hugh and everyone else who contributes to make this site the valuable resource it has become.
Keep up the good work and I can imagine when 13 million will seem like a bad month.
Thank you Robert, for helping to create a global community that is made up of people from every country, race and religion, who are determined to understand Islam and the threat that it posses to world culture.
I have printed one thousand cards with Jihadwatch on it and the words
"Find out the truth about Islam"
I leave it in public places, had it out to people I meet and have a conversation with, give it to my coworkers.
Knowledge about Islam and solidarity with all the people of the world that suffer from Islam is the key to making the world safe from Mohammed's followers
We stand behind you one hundred percent.
You're right El Cid. It's great to know like minded people. What a gift.
hal here, Isa is NOT the name of Jesus - I understand that it is not related in any way in any of the possible etymologies of the languages concerned with this area. It is only a moslem tradition that says this Isa is Jesus. But this Isa is not "one of the central prophets, but the main one, greater than mohamud - the greatest. But, if we Catholics are required to believe that the muslim worship the same God as we do, then it stands perfect with reason that Allah is Jesus, the Lord. Not isa, the greatest prophet - but the god of that prophet(we believe that Jesus is God).
Robert,
Good work. This site together with www.faithfreedom.com has really opened my eyes.
I used to think that Islam was one of the "great religions", but that it was just going through a major growing (ie: mid-life) crisis. However, after reflecting on the life of the founder (ie: Mohammed), it is no longer possible to regard Islam as a great religion in any sense of the word. It is a sad distortion, and it is truly sad for all concerned, especially for Muslims, for they are the biggest victims of all.
Sheik points out that --according to Islam-- Miriam the sister of Moses is also, Miriam or Maryam the mother of Jesus. It doesn't make any sense but it does explain how the Quran was put together: a lot of fragments heard here and there, from Jews and Christians, only partially remembered and poorly digested, yielding disconnected narratives, sometimes contradictory, often incoherent, plus a generous dose of native Arab lore and the whole underlain by traditional Arab values of raiding, plundering, enslaving, etc.
Joseph Schumpeter ascribes Arab-Muslim imperialism [in the Middle Ages] to the native Arabian heritage of raiding and plundering.
As to whether `Isa is really Jesus, Alain Besancon claimed in an article in Commentary [in 2004?] that the parallel personalities in the Quran and the Jewish Scriptures and the New Testament were not the same. That is, Musa is not really Moses, etc. I'd say that the Quran is referring to the same personages as the Jewish and Christian traditions, but they are often much different in character. Likewise, Muslim concepts are much different in nature from Jewish and Christian [and common sense] understandings, although the words may be the same; that is, a Muslim martyr is a mass murderer, unlike a Christian martyr [although the words martyr and shahid both mean "witness"] and unlike a Jewish martyr who died "`al qidush haShem," such as Hannah and her seven sons, etc., Islamic peace is not what common sense would call peace, aggression has a very special Muslim meaning, etc.
Eliyahu: hal here: Well, look at it from our point of view. I'm a 3rd order dominican (a lay order of Crusaders) and We Catholics must take the councels as a very very serious mandate. Vat 2 tells us that we worship the same God as the Muslims do - the God of Abraham (to my great discomfort and consternation), Well, since Isa is not in any etymological sense, the name "Jesus" and I am required, as an obedient servant of the Pope, to believe (if possible) that Allah is just the Eastern word for God, then I must try with all my heart to believe that Allah is Jesus. The prove of this is easy: The Koran says that Allah has no son and no children - well, niether does Jesus! Allah is called Lord, and the Lord and says a lot of things that Jesus is said to have said. We catholics are required to believe that Jesus is God. So, from the point of view of an obedient Catholic (the Pope will not even let us own a gun - evidently we are a potential source of unrest in the Church) this guy Isa, cannot be Jesus - why would anybody even come to such a conclusion? I understand the muslims have a tradition that Isa is Jesus - but it is impossible. They do not know it but they worship Jesus Christ through a crasy-house mirror of the Holy Bible. Let me repeat: Like it or not (and I don't) Allah IS Jesus Christ!!!!
Dear Hal,
I don't know if you are really a Catholic, but anyway, I am, and you are rather severely misunderstanding and/or misrepresenting the Conciliar statement on Islam.
This is what Vatican II actually says: "The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin Mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgment when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting."
That's it. Now look at this carefully. Does it suggest that Christians and Muslims worship the same God? No, actually, although the Catechism of the Catholic Church does when it says that Muslims "profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
But note that it also demonstrates that there are serious differences: Muslims do not acknowledge Jesus as God, and they only "profess" to hold the faith of Abraham.
If Muslims do not acknowledge Jesus as God, how can your statement that "Allah is Jesus" possibly be true?
Part of your confusion no doubt stems from the fact that "Allah" is simply God in Arabic, and Christian Arabs even before the time of Islam called God "Allah" -- and still do today. But to assume from that that the Church is enjoining you to believe in and theologize from the Qur'an and to identify the God of Islam with Jesus Christ -- that clearly contradicts other elements of the statements on which you are depending.
I am not sure whether you are really serious. Just writing this in case you are really sowing doubt in anyone's mind.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
Dear Robert, Yes, I really, really AM a Catholic third Order perpetually professed Dominican, and so is my wife. Its been really hard to get any meaningful interaction with other people on this subject, hence, Jesus = Allah. We are SO grateful for your help and advice - you are the only one except for Hugh,ever, after trying for months. However, it does not say that the muslims honor the conception that there is only one God, it says togeather we worship THE ONE GOD. Lumen Gentium 16, states that muslims "..,together with us (Catholics) they adore the one, merciful God,..". Nostra Aetate 3, states that "They worship God, who is one, living and [self] subsistent.., the Creator of heaven and earth..." Note that it never says "a monotheistic God" or something like that, but always "The God" though it would be easy to state a "monotheistic concept rather than "The God". But (believe me) I'm not trying to win an argument with you, I feel that somehow you are correct (and I wish the Pope would give me back my sword) but it [maybe cuz brain damage or low I,Q.,] just doesn't come across to us as you have so kindly explained to us above. We are very fortunate to have your interaction, we are reading your newest book and so have great respect for the clarity of your intellect - but we dare not be wrong about this - when we were young, we were milatent pro life workers - guess we still are. In those days we had a lot of trouble getting people to talk about it. So we said (and meant it) Abortion is Murder. Well, if we do, in fact, worship the same God - then why is it not truer than anything that Allah is Jesus Christ - else he is nothing more than a stuipid fake and the world's most PowerFull AntiChrist! All Love [really} Hal and Judy
Actually, getting to the Crux or the matter, this is what we think we see on this wonderful and enjoyable and informative site, This is what we think we see on Jihad Watch! Some of you have a pious, albeit,faint hope that the musbots will become moderate (read sane)! But what the heck
are you saying here? There is only one way Muslims are going to become moderate,
and that is just one way and it is not two ways, and you all must know it! The Koran
needs to be reinterpreted correctly! No one really knows what it says because the
ancient thing is covered in such intrigue. It has become canonized in war after war,
and rebellion after rebellion. The historical etymologies (I should say,
archeological etymologies have never been adequately explained - to do so engenders
fear and hatred and hostile actions. But someone is going to have to do it or the
world is going to have to destroy a lot of Muslims. So, what is your position?
Moderation is impossible for them; let loose the dogs of war! Extermination for
those who will not be apostates to this intrinsically evil religion? Suppose, as you
all suspect, that the Koran really does say all those irredeemably horrific things?
Suppose it can't be made more tolerant by the cold and scientific light of
scholarship? Might be, but can you really just pass up the chance because you all
have a hunch that it is, 100% the unenlightened work of a madman? Ok, please tell us what you plan to do instead! And, you, Hiadon, what happened to our conversation, and
our new friendship? Did you let it die just cuz I'm a Crusader? I think working
things out with us is harder for you than you are willing to admit. Do you feel more
comfortable with your own kind? Well, no matter, just tell me what the program is so I can begin to get with it - everyone needs to know, what is it ???? No matter what anyone thinks, if youre Catholic, we are doomed to try to get along so we might as well start now, if'n you really are a moderate? Thought i had a real one in hand at last - there must be two in the bush somewhere, or the Pope is wrong (highly unlikely).
Actually, getting to the Crux or the matter, this is what we think we see on this wonderful and enjoyable and informative site, This is what we think we see on Jihad Watch! Some of you have a pious, albeit,faint hope that the musbots will become moderate (read sane)! But what the heck
are you saying here? There is only one way Muslims are going to become moderate,
and that is just one way and it is not two ways, and you all must know it! The Koran
needs to be reinterpreted correctly! No one really knows what it says because the
ancient thing is covered in such intrigue. It has become canonized in war after war,
and rebellion after rebellion. The historical etymologies (I should say,
archaeological etymologies have never been adequately explained - to do so engenders
fear and hatred and hostile actions. But someone is going to have to do it or the
world is going to have to destroy a lot of Muslims. So, what is your position?
Moderation is impossible for them; let loose the dogs of war! Extermination for
those who will not be apostates to this intrinsically evil religion? Suppose, as you
all suspect, that the Koran really does say all those irredeemably horrific things?
Suppose it can't be made more tolerant by the cold and scientific light of
scholarship? Might be, but can you really just pass up the chance because you all
have a hunch that it is, 100% the unenlightened work of a madman? OK, please tell us what you plan to do instead! And, you, Hiadon, what happened to our conversation, and
our new friendship? Did you let it die just cuz I'm a Crusader? I think working
things out with us is harder for you than you are willing to admit. Do you feel more
comfortable with your own kind? Well, no matter, just tell me what the program is so I can begin to get with it - everyone needs to know, what is it ???? No matter what anyone thinks, if you're Catholic, we are doomed to try to get along so we might as well start now, if'n you really are a moderate? Thought i had a real one in hand at last - there must be two in the bush somewhere, or the Pope is wrong (highly unlikely).
Dear Robert abd Hugh- I am overjoyed by the achievment of J/W!! Congradulations and thank you. Still More work is to be done. Few days back, I suggested an 'Email chain'promotion of J/W. Present readers,contributors,and Posters of J/W should introduce this site to all their friends,relatives,office co-workers,Church Authorities,and members. They must also request them to introduce to their known people,just to continue the J/W chain.
It seams I return every day to find out what is going on, that is, going on without any reporting elsewhere. Without this site, much needed info would go to the dark and hide.
So, it is a needed site in that here you can find out the "scoup" of what is happening, even state how it makes you feel. People crave the truth , based on the number of visitors they may have found it.
“But we believe Jesus is God, hence Allah=Jesus!”
“then it stands perfect with reason that Allah is Jesus”
“Let me repeat: Like it or not (and I don't) Allah IS Jesus Christ!!!!”
“hence, Jesus = Allah.”
So you believe this hal? It pisses me off that you even put their names in the same sentence. It doesn’t surprise me you have a hard time finding meaningful discussion about your crisis. True believers cannot be reasoned with, making discussion difficult at best.
You're not helping yourself (“we are unable to find information that you have found”) or anyone else who comes here to learn. I think you come here to hawk your snake oil. I keep hoping you’ll say something really stupid and get banned.
Cheers.
Butterfly:
FYI. He did.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
I find this site to be a welcome antidote to the poisonous "religion of peace" spiel we hear from the media and government on a daily basis. I HAVE read the koran and I UNDERSTAND it; that's why I stockpile ammunition! I hope I never need it, but I operate on the principle that it's better to have and never need that to need and not have. We must never succumb to the falsehoods about the Crusades: those wars were in response to the predations of Islam, NOT the reverse!! Jews lived in the Holy Lands from times before the pharaohs, and Christians lived there 500 years before the madman mohammed was whelped!
I only wish our "leaders" would renounce their dhimmitude before really hoorible events unfold.