Jihadists in Bangladesh: all women, Muslim and non-Muslim, must wear veil

Islamic tolerance alert. "Islamists demand Bangladeshi women wear veil," from Reuters, with thanks to S.:

DHAKA (Reuters) - A banned Islamist militant group blamed for a series of bombings in Bangladesh has threatened to kill women, including non-Muslims, if they do not wear the veil, a statement said.

The statement by the Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen came hours after Thursday's suicide bomb attack in a northern town that killed at least eight people, the latest of a series of blasts blamed on militant groups in their campaign for an Islamic state.

"Women will be killed if they are found to move around without wearing burqa (veil) from the first day of Jilhaj," the Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen said in the statement sent to a Dhaka newspaper office.

Jilhaj refers to the Arabic month beginning early January.

"Women, including non-Muslims, are hereby advised not to go out of home without burqa. Seclusion has been made compulsory for you," said the statement in Bangla language, a copy of which was obtained by Reuters on Friday.

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Oh yeah? I demand all Muslims wear bunny slippers and bath robes.

This Fatwa is important. Muslimah in chief, Hon. P.M. of our Islamic Republic of Bangladesh should appear in public only with Burqa.

Any excuse to kill, it seems.

My first response to this is anger, justifiable anger. My second response is, if I were forced to wear the burqa under threat of death, to plan my defense/revenge (a weapon hidden under the flowing shroud?), and my third response is a wish to confront these LDS bullies on a level playing field (i.e., no weapons, no cultural mores, no Islamic teachings to hide behind) -- just me and one of these Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen, eye to eye, face to face. Let him tell me then, "Seclusion has been made compulsory for you." When I laugh at him I'd be following Ali Sina's advice that to humiliate is a powerful motivator of change.

Oh, for that level playing field!

The "portable seclusion" thought so much of by Professor Leila Abu-Lughod of Princeton, and other "Muslim feminists" who have come down on the side of -- did you doubt for a minute? -- not women but Islam, Islam, Islam. And if Muslims choose to pitch their tents right over the heads of women, well -- so be it. These soi-disant abulughodish "fighters for feminism and women's rights" in Islam spend their time defending the treatment of women in Islam. They trot out Muslim women to tell the world how happy they are with their restricted lives, how they don't miss a think in the decadent West, where they would of course be treated as sex objects, and so on and so predictably forth.

No, Infidels must not be allowed to use the treatment of women in Islam, by Muslims claiming to follow the dictates, the tenets, the attitudes, the atmospheics, of Islam, can be permitted.

Not any open criticism whatsoever.

And not any veiled, either.

And these same backward creeps were all bitching and moaning when France decreed that they could,'t wear hijab in public schools crying over and over that one community can't impose its requirements on another. Well now the cat is out of the bag.

Maybe we adopt a policy that when we arrest a terrorist or identify a sucide-bomber that their whole families will be huniliated by having their wives, mothers and daughters, stripped naked in public and the photos of it put all over the internet. Then we can test Ali Sina's dictum that humiliation is a powerful motive for change.

The mindset still amazes me.

I don't understand the virtue of wearing a burka in the first place. nevertheless it's axiomatic: virtue is the product of free will, not compulsion.

But in cultures where shame -external loss of face- is more important than guilt -internal recognition one's shortcomings- such pronouncements may make sense.

The problem besetting the West and the World is one of dealing with a culture that turns its adherents into clever, vicious, controlling, manipulative children.

I'd like to see a scientific poll taken to measure awareness among the American population of what's going on in South Asia.

Would more than 1% or 2% know that Thailand , the Phllipines, and Bangladesh are, umm, in-process?

That same poll should also measure awareness of Islam having displaced Christianity and other faiths in Asia Minor, the Holy Land, and Egypt.

Why has no such poll been taken?

This events in Bangladesh make the following statement about the history of Islam ring so true:

"Islam was not a torch, as has been claimed, but an extinguisher. Conceived in a barbarous brain for the use of a barbarous people, it was -and it remains- incapable of adapting itself to civilization. Wherever it has dominated, it has broken the impulse towards progress and checked the evolution of society."

From: Islam and the Psychology of the Musulman
by Andre Servier.

You may download this most informative book about the history of islam from:

http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/

History merely repeats itself and these barbarians are NEVER going to get out of the circle of stupidity they are locked in.

Why not give people a blank map of the world and find out how many can even place Bangladesh, Pakistan, Thailand, the Philippines, before we get to the questions about what is going on there?

As for "Byzantium" - isn't that the name of a new dance-club? And surely "Asia Minor" some Eurasian starlet, possibly hailing from, or at least has had a cab hailed for her at a hazard in, Hong Kong?

And "Holy Land" -- what's that? Isn't that the name of some charity that the G-Men and the T-Men have just shut down?

History is no longer so important, what with Driver's Ed, and "Sex and Relationships," and "Civics" class, and "Language Arts" instead of "English," and for god's sake, if half of the recent college graduates in this country can't give the proper dates for the Civil War, or can't identify Andrew Jackson or John Adams or quite place "Thomas Jefferson" (though the name sounds familiar to some of them), and don't know who the enemy was in World War II (and who is this Adolf Hitler we hear so much about, anyway?), why should they care about the massacres of Hindus in Bangladesh, or know what is happening to black Africans at the hands of Muslim Arabs in the Sudan, or be able to figure out what Pakistan is all about, or even to have a hint of what the Muslim invaders and conquerors inflicted on the Hindus of India?

Whole lot of know-nothingness going around. Yes, the Know-Nothing name should be resurrected, and made the name of a political party. Wear your ignorance proudly. Vote for the Know-Nothings. They do not represent you. They are You.

That party will win. In a walk, in a run, in a stumble.

This is islam's plan for the world. They will not succeed though. The good people of Earth won't stand for it.

"Whole lot of know-nothingness going around."
-- posted by Hugh

And therein lies the crux of the anti-Dhimmi project. We need to blow the empty minds of the sleeping infidel masses. We don't do that, and the Moslems breed and bitch their way to Global Sharia, virtually unopposed.

There is no excuse for not being able to pull off such an Islam Awareness Explosion, because this vile ideology certainly contains more than enough fuel for the detonation.

SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT

"(Islam) will not succeed though. The good people of Earth won't stand for it."
-- posted by A.G.Frederick III

Yes they will, because they'll barely notice it while their countries are in-process, and by the time they wake up their respective Ruling Elites will have been fully co-opted (i.e., effective control over the local military will have been attained).

Hugh,

Forget about "ancient" history like WWII. 9 out of 10 Americans under age 40 can't tell you who Ho Chi Minh was! If you don't believe me try asking sometime!

But ask them about the latest movie set in sunny Orange County, "Complacencies of the Peignoir," starring Penny Black and Brasher Doubloon, and they'll know the whole plot, and every snappy line, backwards, forwards, and upside-down.

The reason the hijab was banned in France is because women including non-Muslim women were being forced to wear it. The hijab and the veil are political statements they are not about modesty.They are also a way for impotent powerless Muslim men to exert control.

"The hijab and the veil are political statements they are not about modesty."
-- posted by Roxane

There is something inherently homosexual about Moslem Man's deep-seated disreprect for women.

All due apologies extended here to any gay posters, no offense meant.

Malta_1565,

I believe I can answer. Ho Chi Minh is a character from Hawaii Five-O. If it's not him (as I don't watch the show) then I'm not sure. Also, what happened in 1565 at Malta? Can't recall what might have happened there. I do know of Lepanto in 1571 and the Morisco/Turkish riots in the 1568-70 years. Terrible.

I agree with Hugh about the know-nothings. In my classes this year, none of the students know anything about their own history, which is partly the reason why I am taking Post-Confederation history of Canada next term, so that I may know. Also the teachers of history seem to think that Islam really is peaceful and nice, and only evil westerners spread this lie. It's amazing.

I believe there is a city in Vietnam named Ho Chi Minh. Funny I did'nt know Jack Lord was that popular there. Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh.

Fringe loonies (dhimmi watch) attack fringe loonies (this extremist group in Bangladesh) - so whats new ? hatred thrives on hatred

You forget to mention that all the mainstream islamic groups in Bangaldesh have condemn this - and imams have strongly condemned it from the pulpit
The Koran says "no compulsion in religion"

That phrase "no compulsion in religion" does not mean what the poster above wishes us to mean. How could it? Look at the discussion, by an Iranian cleric, of the Muslim interpretation of that phrase, at www.dhimmitude.org.

Or, for that matter, simply consider the institution of the dhimmi. The treatment of non-Muslims under Islam, a treatment that required all sorts of financial, legal, social, political disablities, including but hardly limited to the payment of the jizyah, an onerous capitation tax that had to be paid, not by simply sending a check in the mail, but by personally appearing and, in circumstances of deliberate humiliation, handing over to Muslim masters the money. The inequality in court, the inability to build or repair religious structures, the limiting of transportation to donkeys (so that the horse could not be used) and those had to be dismounted from whenever approaching a Muslim, the ability of Muslims to take non-Muslim women as wives or concubines, often at will, while non-Muslim men could never do the reverse, the entire structure of the Islamic societies was built on a Master Race, defined ideologically, of Muslims. No wonder that under these conditions many Jews and Christians, and then Zoroastrians in Sassanid Persia, and many Hindus in Muslim-invaded and Muslim-conquered India, "converted." But if one converts to avoid the status of humiliation, degradation, and permanent insecurity, doesn't that constitute, by itself, "compulsion in religion"?

Don't attempt to treat us all as fools. The visitors to this website are not fools, and they have educated themselves, and are attempting to do exactly what Muslims fear most, and will do what they can to prevent -- learning the full truth about what is contained in the Qur'an, the Hadith, and the Sira, and what the history of Muslim conquest of non-Muslim lands, and the horrific mistreatment of every kind of non-Muslim subjugated to rule by Muslim conquerors.

It is now avaialalbe. The canonical texts are on the world-wide web. The websites of scholars, of ex-Muslims who are eager to tell the truth about Islam, the monopoly of MESA Nostra and Arab money in academic life has been exposed, ridiculed, held up for analysis, and can no longer possess anything like the authority its members may once have fondly believed they exercised, and perhaps over innocent undergraduates they may still, and the workings of what can accurately be described as an Islamintern International, having burrowed its way into, having infiltrated, the bureaucracies of the U.N., the E.U., and elsewhere (for the recruits to this army of apologists for Islam are not all Muslims; they contain non-Muslim hirelings and fellow-travellers as well).

This exercise in mass self-education by Infidels cannot be stopped. Every fresh act of terror, or outrageous threat or demand within the Western world, or the behavior of Muslims in such places as Pakistan, Sudan, Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, the "Palestinian" territories, simply increases the number of Infidels who can no longer deny the evidence of their senses, and set to work to figure out what Islam is all about. They would vastly prefer not to do so; it worries them, it alarms them, it requires them to ponder what actions must be taken.

But still, they are doing it.

And this is what not carrying your house on your head will get you in Australia:

Gang Rapist Claims Right to Assault
THE eldest of four Pakistani gang rapist brothers has admitted lying at trial and apologised to his victims but said he thought he had a right to rape the "promiscuous" teenage girls.

MSK, 27, told the NSW Supreme Court yesterday that this was because the girls did not wear headscarves, were drinking alcohol and were unaccompanied when they went to his Ashfield home. MSK also blamed his intoxication, "cultural beliefs" and an undiagnosed mental disorder.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/gang-rapist-claims-right-to-assault/2005/12/09/1134086806845.html

Worth a read.


http://smh.com.au/news/national/gang-rapist-claims-right-to-assault/2005/12/09/1134086806845.html

Silvester
Thank you. Notice rapist was able to lie pulling all the stops out WITHOUT IT AFFECTING HIS UNDIAGANOSED MEDICAL CONDITION! Think his condition is ISLAM, don't you?? What sort of 'religion' allows men to rape women with impunity BECAUSE THEY AREN'T WEARING A HIJAB OR A TENT - not that these medieval getups have protected poor women in Pakistan & Bangladesh or
teenage girls declared to belong to FAMILIES OF COLLABORATERS in Kashmir - who have been raped,had their noses cut off, sometimes limbs also... Has headcoverings & Burkas saved THE MUSLIM WOMEN & GIRLS OF DARFUR FROM RAPE,TORTURE AND DEATH AND SLAVERY IN SUDAN.No,certainly not. In this vile,sick so called "Religion" the most terrible CRIMES are justified by referring to the
LIFE OF THE PROPHET - MEMOIR OF A CRAZED MADMAN,PERVERT AND ORIGINAL TERRORIST!!
I get very angry too; especially when I read all
the Darwah stuff sent out by BBC on Muslims and
'wonderful Islam'. Notice No one puts a NAME TO THESE REPORTS & ARTICLES - it is scandalous that
Al BBC are allowed to do this with Taxpayers money. Islam is tirelessly promoted [how come] on a secular media outlet : no other religion gets a mention or this slavishly fawning propaganda. BBC has fallen to only 35% of people
viewing but shall not rest content until the whole damn outfit is investigated for corruption:
anonymous journos behind anti Christian & anti Jewish,pro Palestine, Islamic Darwah is exposed...

I agree, Morgane, the undiagnosed mental disorder is without doubt islam.

posted by Roxane :

"The hijab and the veil are political statements they are not about modesty.".

Didn't Mohammed throw his blanket over a woman (the inspiration of the burqa?) captured during one of his raids to send the message, "Hands off, she's mine!" to his murdering mob?

I thought the covering of women in Islam had more to do with male "property rights" than anything else?

Is hochimin a medical disorder?

And who is running for that political party above? They seem like our best option if Spencer's not in the race.

And this history business? I read that it's actually "his story," a sexist plot to pull the wooly burqa over the eyes of women.

Oh, so much to learn. I'll try the History Channel with a good mix of the Women's Network and maybe some MTV so I can get culture too. And then I'll vote. Just hope I don't come down withthat hochimin. A friend says there's some really effect herbal remedies for it though. Or did I read that in my horoscope? La la. I can't recall.

I think Bangladeshi Muslim men should wear the veils since they are so damn butt-ugly.


And while they are at it, a good bath would do some good to take that serious B.O. away.

Obviously Mohound was not into hygiene.


-Cheers
-Ayo Gorkhali

In Bangladesh a facemask is a must!

Wearing the veils and bags . . .

Political statements,property rights,
old tribal customs,
beliefs about what's sexy and what's not,
who knows for how many other ridiculous reasons,
they're worn. Practically, unless you're living outside in the mid-east desert,
veil and bags are an aggravating nuisance
and uncomfortable.

As a political statement, it is key to understand by wearing the veils and bags they show their identity with the jihadi,they show their support in allah's cause.

if dhimmiwatch is loonie, then i must be completely bonkers: we need a "TAQIYYAHWATCH" site.

loonie like a fox,
jim

Hugh, three outstanding posts in one thread.

You are indeed a national treasure, and it is you that keeps me coming back (even when I'm banned ;0)

Give Rumi a break, he's a noob Muslim, probably more ignorant of Islam and his Qur'an than us kufr.

Doubt if he ever read the Sirah, knows anything about Shari'a other than you stone adulterers, kill apostates, crucify those who cause mischief in the land, and amputate the hands of thieves.

And I seriously doubt that he has even read a verse of any hadith.. if he has any questions he runs to daddy, the local ventriloquist or Imam.. they even have an ask the imam website.. Muslims aren't taught and are forbidden to think for themselves. Thought is dangerous, like Communism and NAZIism it is listen, believe and obey.

Nariz sez:

"Hugh, three outstanding posts in one thread.

You are indeed a national treasure, and it is you that keeps me coming back (even when I'm banned ;"

Hugh, any chance we can borrow (you) this treasure -just for a few weeks- in Aussie-land? The invitation stands and we have plenty of shrimp to put on the barbie... and the necessary liquid to wash it down...

At the moment we have 34 C and the water is just about as warm...

Nariz, if it wasn't for your left/right obsession.....


"This Fatwa is important. Muslimah in chief, Hon. P.M. of our Islamic Republic of Bangladesh should appear in public only with Burqa."

Iqbal, this fatwa is about as important as a pimple on my butt. You and your allah are going to the hellfire and I hope you roast nicely!

I think Bangladeshi Muslim men should wear the veils since they are so damn butt-ugly.


And while they are at it, a good bath would do some good to take that serious B.O. away.

Obviously Mohound was not into hygiene.


-Cheers
-Ayo Gorkhali

l guess it all started with mohomomud living in the desert, no water, no bath, they stink, so cover them up....they prol have enough facial hair that mohomomud does not know if he is raping a man or a women! mohomomud the original bisexual!

"And I seriously doubt that he has even read a verse of any hadith.. if he has any questions he runs to daddy, the local ventriloquist or Imam.. they even have an ask the imam website.. Muslims aren't taught and are forbidden to think for themselves. Thought is dangerous, like Communism and NAZIism it is listen, believe and obey."

An ironic comment made by people on a site dedicated entirely to postings from newspapers and articles/books WRITTEN BY OTHERS!!

Gosh Rumi I thought all articles and books were written by other people. Unless you just read your own writings. Let's see, who wrote the Quran? Oh yeah, 'that' guy, or was it 'those guys'?
I dont remember, but it was definatly WRITTEN BY OTHERS...

rumi,

Enjoy your ability to say that we are "fringe loonies" while it lasts.
History teaches us that the West reacts late to therats to itself, but it always ends up reacting.
And then you and your religion will be cast into the dungheap of history.

"All women must wear veils..."

And every good mullah has probably quoted Bob Dylan at one point or another:

"Everybody must get stoned..."