Kashmir shutdown over Quran desecration, Prophet caricature

Shops and establishments in most parts of Kashmir Valley were closed Thursday to protest...suicide bombings by Muslims in Bangladesh and Iraq? The PA paying money to the families of terrorists? The Danish Muslim organization accused of funding terrorism? The Al-Arian verdict?

No, they were protesting...cartoons of Muhammad that were printed in a newspaper. No, not in Kashmir. In Denmark.

From IANS, with thanks to A Thinker:

Srinagar : Shops and establishments in most parts of Kashmir Valley were closed Thursday to protest a Danish newspaper publishing a caricature of the Prophet and the alleged desecration of the Quran in Sopore town.

The strike call was given by the separatist Hurriyat Conference group led by Syed Ali Geelani. The Kashmir bar association and other groups supported the shutdown.

Authorities have made elaborate security arrangements all over the valley to maintain law and order. Though shops in parts of Kashmir capital Srinagar and other major towns were closed, traffic was plying.

Tension is still high in the north Kashmir town of Sopore, famous for its apples, where three drunk youths had desecrated the Quran and also tried to set ablaze the mosque earlier this week.

Though the three have been arrested by the state police, locals are demanding stringent punishment.

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Hey, this could be a good thing. The Kashmir people are further destroying the smoldering dung-heap they call their economy.

But, but, I thought that the people of Kashmir were frantically trying to help their fellow citizens affected by the earthquake. Oh yes, I forgot. The dhimmi Western charity groups will give those victims the food, shelter and medicines that they need to survive the brutal winter. The people in the valley have much more important work to do....participating in work stoppages to show how enflamed and enraged that they are over some cartoons in Denmark. It is just my distorted Western mind that makes me think that providing food for the starving is more important than defending ole' Muhammed from some nasty cartoonist.

So, here we go again.

Now, how many folks in Kashmir have ever even seen a Danish newspaper? This protest has probably been whipped up by whack-job Muslim clerics.

I assume that they're upset about these cartoons:

http://www.newspaperindex.com/blog/wp-images/Mohammed-drawings-newspaper.jpg

But this, happening to one of their own, doesn't seem to be a problem.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009291.php#comments

I love it!

Shall we their fond pageant see?
Lord, what fools these muslims be!

Looks like we need more cartoons, and perhaps some that really are properly offensive, not just that weak Danish stuff :>

Imli, who thinks that perhaps the amount of Ergot in the Kashmiri chapati flour was a bit above the tolerance level lately... :-D

Imli writes:
"Looks like we need more cartoons, and perhaps some that really are properly offensive, not just that weak Danish stuff :>"

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

This is exactly what is needed. More caricatures of the Pedophile Pervert Prophet (may the koran be used as doggie pooper scooper liners forever), and jokes
about him, are needed. If it isn't that, it will be
need to be bombs, but muslims hate this kind of
mockery more than anything.

Where are the Mapplethorpes and the other "brave" artists? "Piss Christ" is easy, isn't it? What about
doggie doo koran?

Have these guys never seen these?

http://isfullofcrap.com/oldcrap/ask_the_prophet/

they should drop off leaflets with the danish cartoon on kasmir residents.. they would most likely
think its current affairs and realistic.

MontJoie- I have yet to receive any fatwahs or death threats, so the answer is obviously No.

If they put a high enough price on my head, I may be tempted to turn myself in for the reward.

I looked at the cartoons...

1. They told the truth.
2. Islam cant withstand any scrutiny.
3. You wont Silence US
4. I wouldnt flush a koran down the toilet as i dont want to WASTE my money on a false Prophets phony book.

5. But most important of all

We dont like being told what to watch, read, or draw..

and Since Islam and Mohammed have given us so much material to write about...

ALL of it NEGATIVE...
Since islam has proven its evil nature to the entire world..

Now the muslims are crying to the UN to save their pathetic excuse for a religion...

WAHHH
Poor babies..

Now that Puck (not of Pook's Hill) and Oberon (not Merle of Hollywood and Acapulco) have been wittily invoked above, one might allow oneself to hope that the whole Infidel world's nightmare is just and only that, and we can end it merely by awakening:

"If we Muslims have offended
Think but this and all is mended...
That you have but slumber'd here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream,
Gentles, do not reprehend:
if you pardon, we will mend..."

If only it were so, and Muslims could beg our collective Infidel pardon, and reform, borrowing without interest the words of Puck's vos plaudite. But it isn't and they can't. The nightmare is not something from which we can all wake up, because we didn't dream it. It is real; we simply managed to overlook, to not notice, it. What is true, however, is that by awakening in time, we will be better able to bring that real, not imagined, nightmare to an end.

Many in the Infidel world are dawdling, hesitating, playing at being Hamlet, putting on antic dispositions, and in their madness without method, become oblivious to how their appeasement, their excuses, their yieldings have turned them, little by little, into rogues and peasant slaves.

There is only one way to deal with these nightmares that are not merely nightmares. To quote from that more serious play that was smuggled in in the paragraph above: By opposing, end them.

That's it. But how many in the world of Infidels even at this date are ready, willing, able?

Voila le hic. There's the rub.

jingoist rights:
"4. I wouldnt flush a koran down the toilet as i dont want to WASTE my money on a false Prophets phony book."

I agree. Steal one, or get one free some other way.

Mohammadans excuse themselves from the Golden Rule.
I practice the generalized Golden Rule, called
tit-for-tat. If it's OK to steal from infidels, I say we should steal from them. At the very least, steal korans so that we can liberate the paper. I

I quote from suras 6:68-69 within The Cattle/The Livestock:

"If you see those who mock our revelations, you shall avoid them until they delve into another subject. If the devil causes you to forget, then, as soon as you remember, do not sit with such evil people.

The righteous are not responsible for the utterances of those people, but it may help to remind them; perhaps they may be saved."

I do believe that in these suras the voices in Mohammed's head are telling the fathful to avoid the presence of those who mock the Quran. Turn your back on them. Ignore their presence. Wait them out.

The voices in Mohammed's head are not screaming KILL! KILL! KILL! No, he says that plenty of other times, but not in these suras.

And, no, I hardly consider death threats and bomb threats to be a form of "reminding" someone with the intention of "saving" them. When was the last time your wife threatened to blow you up or behead you the last time you forgot to leave the seat down in the bathroom?

Okay, bad example. But you get my point.

(One of the fun things about doing the Ask The Prophet parody is that I've been going back and reading my copy of the Quran. You know, the one I use a bacon-scented air freshener stick as a bookmark for.)

I'm reading Leon Uris' book The Haj (thanks to the person at JW who recommended the book).Uris' book is over 20 years old but it could have been written yesterday.It's historical fiction but makes for interesting reading about the primitive societies based on Islam.Here's a fascinating speech from a Arab character in the book remember this was written over 20 years ago.

"Nonsense. Islam is unable to live at peace with anyone. We Arabs are the worst. We can't live with the world, and even more terrible, we can't live with each other. In the end it will not be Arab against Jew but Arab against Arab. One day our oil will be gone, along with our ability to blackmail. We have contributed nothing to human betterment in centuries, unless you consider the assassin and the terrorist as human gifts. The world will tell us to go to hell. We, who tried to humiliate the Jews, will find ourselves humiliated as the scum of the earth."

And what happens when the oil is gone?

Will European politicians still allow the Islamicisation of Europe to continue?

Any infidel who contributed any charity to earthquake relief should be proud of his/her contribution.

I will personally sell all my earthly possessions and contribute all the proceeds to an Islamic organization that build madrasas for the small eager minds of young paki’s. I can not wait to contribute all that I own to such a worthwhile endeavor. Let’s all join hands and sing a song: cum-ba-ya my Allah, cum-ba-ya!!!

Laurence Simon - Your site is absolutely hilarious! I mean it! I especially love how the darned picture never changes...LOL!

Hamlet, as Prince of Denmark, was perhaps more apt -- but I thought, in keeping with the theme of comics and the comical to pluck this thread, and Puck it I did, oops -- pluck... The pageant we might see is the fire dance the primitives perform -- the one where they burn and trample the flag and then rampage through the streets in a mad frenzy -- my favorite part.

It is a nightmare, to be sure -- I am with you 100% -- or 200% as PM P.M. would say... But i gotta laugh sometimes...

Perhaps something from King Richard II would have been better -- it certainly fits the theme of Muslims and their preposterous bloody god...:

" The pale-faced moon looks bloody on the earth
And lean-look'd prophets whisper fearful change..."

P.S. I have to rely on other's poetry to elevate my posts Hugh! Compared to your jewel flecked colloquies, my words are merely peasants in the dust... (but sometimes pheasants too...)

The strike call was given by the separatist Hurriyat Conference group led by Syed Ali Geelani.

whoops flies in the face of Geelanis claim of Hurriyat being a "secular" and "all-inculsive" "sepratist" group. No doubt RAW (the all dreaded Indian agency) was somehow involved with their big daddy Mossad. Too bad for Geelani no Hindus remain in Kashmir valley thanks to Geelani and Co., now who will they blame those Koran desecrations on?

I'm just an unenlightened infidel so maybe someone can explain to me exactly what this "strike" is supposed to accomplish. The only people it will adversely affect are the ones doing it, but they're always looking for an excuse to avoid any kind of honest work. Any excuse will do, and time off for jihad and street demonstrations are compulsory. The stupid dhimmis in the West will see to their every need while they rant and scream for our destruction.

This becomes more ludicrous every day! I suppose blasphemy of the deranged prophet will soon become an international crime, punishable by beheading in Saudi Arabia. I'm sure the UN won't object to that.

Separatist?
Nonsense.
The Kashmiris are plain puppets, useful idiots doing the dirty job for two types of scundrel:

1.those oil-wealthy princes that want to extend their doctrine and their lousy "holy" places.

2. The sneaky Pakistani government who uses the gullible Kashmiris to fight a non-frontal war against India, in typical paki-cowardly fashion.

Still with the Danish cartoons?!

This is beyond ridiculous and absurd. We're moving into a parallel universe. Only Islam can get away with this garbage without a media blitz.

"Though the three have been arrested by the state police, locals are demanding stringent punishment."

Lop off a hand, cut off a head? That would do the trick. Is Kashmir under Sharia law? I hope not. It's just a book, many have been burned my Muslims thoughout the years. Eye for an eye... oh, wait, that's in that other book.

Laurence, (re 6:68-69)

The passage refers to hypocrites who meddle with/mock “their” own religion (Islam), or at least those who don’t take it seriously enough. (Mohammad, of course, throughout the Koran, mocks and insults everyone else’s religion or disbelief. That’s okay). If you continue to 6:70, you’ll find that Mohammad did not fail to condemn the hypocrites to a painful doom, and warned them that they would perish “by their own deserts.” (In the Hadiths, of course, it is clear that Mohammad is not just talking about punishment in hell. He assassinates or executes such people). I don’t see anything in 6:68-70 that goes against Mohammad’s ‘live and let die’ policy.

These verses in Sura 6 were revealed during the Meccan phase. (Mohammad was militarily weak then). Even if we selectively take the good “turn the other cheek” sentiment from 6:68-69, this would be abrogated by the verses later revealed in Medina, which explicitly call for the slaughter of hypocrites, alarmists, lechers, and adulterers (33:57-62). (By that time, Mohammad is condemning to hell-fire anyone who merely annoys him or his Muslims).

Finally, is it best to “turn the other cheek” in the circumstance of 6:68-69? Why doesn’t he tell his followers to argue with the meddlers and the slackers, to defend the wonderful Islam on its own merits? The policy must be “turn the other cheek,” and “we’ll kill them later” because the ideology cannot stand on its own merits.


6:68 And when thou seest those who meddle with Our revelations, withdraw from them until they meddle with another topic. And if the devil cause thee to forget, sit not, after the remembrance, with the congregation of wrong-doers.
6:69 Those who ward off (evil) are not accountable for them in aught, but the Reminder (must be given them) that haply they (too) may ward off (evil).
6:70 And forsake those who take their religion for a pastime and a jest, and whom the life of the world beguileth. Remind (mankind) hereby lest a soul be destroyed by what it earneth. It hath beside Allah no protecting ally nor intercessor, and though it offer every compensation it will not be accepted from it. Those are they who perish by their own deserts. For them is drink of boiling water and a painful doom, because they disbelieved.

Watcher, (re eye for an eye).

Here's the Koran's version, which is still literally applied in some Islamic Paradises today (e.g., Saudi Arabia, Iran).

5:45 And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong-doers.

Note that "life for life" applies when a Muslim murders a Muslim. It does not apply when a Muslim kills a non-Muslim.

Maybe instead of back-slapping each other over how witty our sarcasm is, we should take some time to consider the reality of a "community" that has the manpower, logistics, and organizational skills that enable it to see cartoons printed in Denmark and organize a strike in the friggin' Himalayas. Rumors of a pissed-on quran in Cuba, a Pakistani cricketeer speaks and people die. An American radio personality speaks and a terrorist front organ has him fired. Change the Russian crest. Al-Arian walks.
You guys can keep up the yuck-fest if you like but we need to do more than thump our virtual chests. I know that plenty of us go out and try to educate our friends, family, strangers, co-workers. That is well-spent time. Commenting and reading comments here has to be well-spent time,too. This enemy is relentless, it doesn't sleep, it doesn't take days off. We can't sit around like a bunch of veterans telling irreverent war-stories. We haven't even fought yet. We haven't earned the right.

@Rocky:

"Separatist?
Nonsense.
The Kashmiris are plain puppets, useful idiots doing the dirty job for two types of scoundrel:"

Always be precise to write Muslim Kashmiris since I realise that you know something about the region.

-------------------------------------

There are Hindu Kashmiris, Buddhist Kashmiris, the majority of the land of the Jammu and Kashmir state is comprised of Ladakh which is Buddhist, then Jammu which is Hindu and the cursed Kashmir Valley which is Muslim, but the Valley alone is overpopulated with Muslims that they outnumber everyone else in the State. Shows you that if you can't defeat people with your intelligence then breed like rabbits and locusts.

Now seeing this “Bund” (Strike) or Shutdown simply shows the idiotic mentality that has not left these fools since early times. Kashmiri Muslims for a long time throughout history have been wishing to leave Islam, however due to the stupidity of Kashmiri Pundits, this was not taken to task and instead the opportunity was lost to the pages of history.

It’s true that the increase in Fanatics was caused by the infiltration of Pakistani and Saudi dollars, however the stupidity and lack of common sense among the Islamic population has always existed.

Case in point, its the end of World War 1, the Ottoman Empire is finished, the Caliphate is deposed, the institution of Central Islamic power is dismantled and destroyed and the British kicked their butts. What happens? Protests across India (when India was Pakistan, Bangladesh, India and Burma, as one nation) by who else? The Muslims, and not just protest, it brought about a nationwide struggle against the dismantling of the Caliphate, referred to in Indian history as the Caliphate movement. To this, Jinnah, the infamous leader of the Muslim League replied that it’s ridiculous to do this as Indian Muslims must fight for their own independence instead of fighting for a foreign king who does not give a damn about the plight of Indian Muslims under British rule.

Now you probably thought that was enough, and maybe, just maybe, their might be some common sense among these inbreeds.

Enter the Mahatma.

Yes, Mahatma Gandhi, the champion of Secular India, the bastard who created Pakistan, the half naked retarded trisomy 18, wife beater, pedophile (he molested his nieces and had an incestuous affair with tow of them, get an unedited autobiography “My experiments with truth” published before the 1960s).

Gandhi says that the Caliphate movement is more important than even Indian independence, so he starts making it a mass movement. And you wonder why they couldn’t make the British leave fast enough when even the Brits admitted they were losing power at this point in India and may have had to pack their bags up, well here it is, Gandhi and the Muslims delayed Indian independence by 26 years because of their sheer stupidity.

So do you think I am surprised by their stupid protest over those beautiful works of Art in Denmark? Nope. They made Mohammed look human at least.

Now go and ask a stupid secular Hindu the same question and you’ll see what inbreeding can do to your intelligence.


-Cheers

t-ham

We haven't even fought yet. We haven't earned the right.
Other than battling on the information front, I don't have any authority to "fight." I'm too old to join the military, and I don't practice a religion of personal violence.

You sound upset, understandably. Al Arian is one small part of the overall fight against the jihad, and he'll be retried.

This is going to take a while. Don't mistake a few small setbacks in battles for the war.

The ummah does have the 'advantage' of groupthink all over the world. But it's also their greatest disadvantage.

Gorkhali,

You are right, I am referring to the Muslim Kashimiris, the overwhelming majority.

The Hindu Kashmiris, the Pandits, among which was Pandit Nehru, are not separatist.

Anyway, as you know, most have been expelled owing to a real ethnic cleansing during the last decade.

As for Ladakh, I don't know why it is part of the state of Jammu & Kashmir, for those guys, the Ladakhis, have more affinity with the Tibetans.


Have you noticed how Pakistan always talks about supporting Kashmiri "freedom fighters", but they themselves have not given any freedom to the part of Kashmir they annexed from India (Gilgit area has been practically annexed to pakistan)?

Real typical treacherous islamic behavior.

There is also a Hawaii 5-0 TV marathon going on there as well. Folks just won't work when Jack Lord is on the telly.

Gorkhali, I so far thought you are an Indian.But your comments above on Gandhi made me think other wise. I have seen the movie "Ghandi" and I admired that man for his Nonviolance, the charactor which you cannot find in any Islamic leaders. Ghandi is kept in high regard throughout the world. One thing you must reslise that had he not recomended the division of India and Pakistan,I think by now 80 or 90 persent of Indians would have been muslims. I am told Hindus are very passive,and the Muslims could have easily overpowered you hindus,had their say in every matter. One of my Indian friends told me that the hindu Brameens (the self procalimed high caste people amoung Hindus)Hated Ghandi ,for he led the 'untouchable' hindus into the hindu temples.In fact ,Ghandi was assacinated by a Hindu Brameen,when he was leading a group of untouchables to a temple. Gorkhali, I think you are a brameen,but plesase- dont degrade your own Hindu man in public forums-to the amusement and joy of your rivals-the islamists.

Rafia,

Most of my reply will be in english, perhaps you might need a translator to fully understand what I have to say.


Agar mein Hindu nahin hota phir muje Hindi kahan se ati? Bevkoof.


Obviously I am from the subcontinent and just because I have a negative view of Gandhi does not lessen my ethnicity since I have a right to my opinion.


You may admire the man based on Sir Richard Attenborough depiction of Gandhi, but to base your view on a movie while I am basing it on an undergraduate specialist in South Asian Studies from an Ivy League University, former associate researcher to a well-known Harvard professor who is an international authority on Hinduism, and also having a published thesis on Rajputs, I guess we can judge who would be more qualified to know about Gandhi. A University education on the topic or a 3 hour movie? Gandhi is not kept in high regard by every Indian or every person around the world.


Rafia wrote:
“One thing you must reslise that had he not recomended the division of India and Pakistan,I think by now 80 or 90 persent of Indians would have been muslims.”

Are you for real? The Hindus are not so weak that they would have been converted, especially after resisting Islam for 1300 years. The majority of the British Indian Armed forces were Hindu, along with that most of the Princely states were Hindu. Before you comment perhaps you need to take a history course about India.

On top of that, after the partition, there were still more Muslims in India than in Pakistan, so what was the point of dividing the country if you guys weren’t willing to all leave. You have such a parasitic mentality.


During the partition of India, the refugee slogan was:

Gandhi ko marne do, hum ko makan do.

Trans: Let Gandhi die, give us homes.

Source: Page 85, Chapter six, The Men Who Killed Gandhi by M. Malgonkar. Copyright 1979

Isbn 333-18228-6
Macmillan London ltd. ,
4 little essex street, London,
wc2r 3lf


Rafia wrote:

“I am told Hindus are very passive,and the Muslims could have easily overpowered you hindus,had their say in every matter. “

You are a funny guy aren't you? Mama drop you on the head one too many times, no?


Again you should go educate yourself on the matter. Perhaps you have no clue, since you have no sense of India’s history and that the Muslims lived in fear of many martial Hindu groups, i.e., Gurkhas, Rajputs, Gondas, Bhils, Marathas, Tamils, Assamese, Nagas, and Sikhs etc etc.


You were completely annihilated by the Hindus in terms of a central Islamic power, and the British finished you guys off of what remained among Muslim kingdoms in India.


Rafia wrote:


“One of my Indian friends told me that the hindu Brameens (the self procalimed high caste people amoung Hindus)Hated Ghandi ,for he led the 'untouchable' hindus into the hindu temples.In fact ,Ghandi was assacinated by a Hindu Brameen,when he was leading a group of untouchables to a temple.”


Do you have Down’s syndrome? Are your friends inbred? Gandhi did not lead Untouchables, instead it was Dr. Ambedkar, who happened to be an untouchable himself, and also it was not Gandhi who led untouchables into temples, it was Narsinh Mehta, a 16th century Gujarati saint who also coined the term Harijan meaning “God’s children” for the untouchables, again it wasn’t Gandhi.


Gandhi was assassinated at Birla house in Delhi; you fool, not on his way to a temple.


And to top that off, here is the comment made by the judge who presided over the trail of Nathuram Godse, the assassin:


…had the audience that day [in the High Court] been constituted into a jury and entrusted with the task of deciding Godse’s appeal, they would have brought in a verdict of ‘not guilty’. –Justice G.D. Khosla


Source: Page 85, Chapter six, The Men Who Killed Gandhi by M. Malgonkar. Copyright 1979

ISBN 333-18228-6
Macmillan London ltd.
4 little Essex street, London,
wc2r 3lf

Rafia wrote:

“Gorkhali, I think you are a brameen,but plesase- dont degrade your own Hindu man in public forums-to the amusement and joy of your rivals-the islamists.”

Rafia, I think you are a retard. Gandhi was not a Hindu; he was a traitor to his people. And you are more of an amusement with your retarded comments trying to act educated when obviously you haven’t passed your first milestone.

Perhaps, one day, when you notochord finally develops and the Epiblasts will begin to differentiate in the three germinal layers, perhaps then you may develop one soma capable of sending some sort of intelligent argument.

And no I am not a Brahmin, (Brameen, who taught you how to spell? The Ayatollah?), we have defeated you in battle; we will always defend our people and don’t think I will ever turn the other cheek. If you think Hindus are meek, think again, even our women are warriors who defeated you in battle, case in point, Queen Karam Devi of Chittor defeated the hordes of Qutab-uddin-Aibak.

You are so typical of the Islamists who wish to distort the truth.

And if you don’t understand the words that are coming form my comp, there is an online translator. Good luck in making it out of the tree; you are honestly an Australopithicine uranidiot.

-Cheers

Ayo Gorkhali (Here come the Gurkhas)

Rafia,

Most of my reply will be in english, perhaps you might need a translator to fully understand what I have to say.


Agar mein Hindu nahin hota phir muje Hindi kahan se ati? Bevkoof.


Obviously I am from the subcontinent and just because I have a negative view of Gandhi does not lessen my ethnicity since I have a right to my opinion.


You may admire the man based on Sir Richard Attenborough depiction of Gandhi, but to base your view on a movie while I am basing it on an undergraduate specialist in South Asian Studies from an Ivy League University, former associate researcher to a well-known Harvard professor who is an international authority on Hinduism, and also having a published thesis on Rajputs, I guess we can judge who would be more qualified to know about Gandhi. A University education on the topic or a 3 hour movie? Gandhi is not kept in high regard by every Indian or every person around the world.


Rafia wrote:
“One thing you must reslise that had he not recomended the division of India and Pakistan,I think by now 80 or 90 persent of Indians would have been muslims.”

Are you for real? The Hindus are not so weak that they would have been converted, especially after resisting Islam for 1300 years. The majority of the British Indian Armed forces were Hindu, along with that most of the Princely states were Hindu. Before you comment perhaps you need to take a history course about India.

On top of that, after the partition, there were still more Muslims in India than in Pakistan, so what was the point of dividing the country if you guys weren’t willing to all leave. You have such a parasitic mentality.


During the partition of India, the refugee slogan was:

Gandhi ko marne do, hum ko makan do.

Trans: Let Gandhi die, give us homes.

Source: Page 85, Chapter six, The Men Who Killed Gandhi by M. Malgonkar. Copyright 1979

Isbn 333-18228-6
Macmillan London ltd. ,
4 little essex street, London,
wc2r 3lf


Rafia wrote:

“I am told Hindus are very passive,and the Muslims could have easily overpowered you hindus,had their say in every matter. “

You are a funny guy aren't you? Mama drop you on the head one too many times, no?


Again you should go educate yourself on the matter. Perhaps you have no clue, since you have no sense of India’s history and that the Muslims lived in fear of many martial Hindu groups, i.e., Gurkhas, Rajputs, Gondas, Bhils, Marathas, Tamils, Assamese, Nagas, and Sikhs etc etc.


You were completely annihilated by the Hindus in terms of a central Islamic power, and the British finished you guys off of what remained among Muslim kingdoms in India.


Rafia wrote:


“One of my Indian friends told me that the hindu Brameens (the self procalimed high caste people amoung Hindus)Hated Ghandi ,for he led the 'untouchable' hindus into the hindu temples.In fact ,Ghandi was assacinated by a Hindu Brameen,when he was leading a group of untouchables to a temple.”


Do you have Down’s syndrome? Are your friends inbred? Gandhi did not lead Untouchables, instead it was Dr. Ambedkar, who happened to be an untouchable himself, and also it was not Gandhi who led untouchables into temples, it was Narsinh Mehta, a 16th century Gujarati saint who also coined the term Harijan meaning “God’s children” for the untouchables, again it wasn’t Gandhi.


Gandhi was assassinated at Birla house in Delhi; you fool, not on his way to a temple.


And to top that off, here is the comment made by the judge who presided over the trail of Nathuram Godse, the assassin:


…had the audience that day [in the High Court] been constituted into a jury and entrusted with the task of deciding Godse’s appeal, they would have brought in a verdict of ‘not guilty’. –Justice G.D. Khosla


Source: Page 85, Chapter six, The Men Who Killed Gandhi by M. Malgonkar. Copyright 1979

ISBN 333-18228-6
Macmillan London ltd.
4 little Essex street, London,
wc2r 3lf

Rafia wrote:

“Gorkhali, I think you are a brameen,but plesase- dont degrade your own Hindu man in public forums-to the amusement and joy of your rivals-the islamists.”

Rafia, I think you are a retard. Gandhi was not a Hindu; he was a traitor to his people. And you are more of an amusement with your retarded comments trying to act educated when obviously you haven’t passed your first milestone.

Perhaps, one day, when you notochord finally develops and the Epiblasts will begin to differentiate in the three germinal layers, perhaps then you may develop one soma capable of sending some sort of intelligent argument.

And no I am not a Brahmin, (Brameen, who taught you how to spell? The Ayatollah?), we have defeated you in battle; we will always defend our people and don’t think I will ever turn the other cheek. If you think Hindus are meek, think again, even our women are warriors who defeated you in battle, case in point, Queen Karam Devi of Chittor defeated the hordes of Qutab-uddin-Aibak.

You are so typical of the Islamists who wish to distort the truth.

And if you don’t understand the words that are coming form my comp, there is an online translator. Good luck in making it out of the tree; you are honestly an Australopithicine uranidiot.

-Cheers

Ayo Gorkhali (Here come the Gurkhas)

@Rocky,

You are so right about Pakistani occupied Kashmir. They have destroyed the Kashmiri culture completely.

It is such a shame.

-Cheers

Rafia,

You are very strange, I just read your comment to me in another thread about the UK police sponsoring.....and there you praise me. Who are you? What game are you playing?

-Cheers

Ayo Gorkhali

Rafia:
\The reaosn why many in India hate gandhi is not because of the good things he did but because of the unfiniished business he e;ft festering. Gandhi alone in 1946 commanded enough weight to kick out all Moslems (or more politely if you prefer, ask moslems to leave) India since Jinnah asked for a moslem homeland specifically and undivided India was anyway being trifurcated. Gandhi alone could prevail upon nehru and Mountabatten to have the partition stretch out to 6 months so that orderly transfer of populations could take place... So many things he could've done right.
Then that fart nehru screwed up so many things royally...I only wish Godse had taken out Nehru along with Gandhi. Then Patel would've been PM, the Kashmir problem would've been settled in 1948 itself (no silly Nehru inspired UN resolutions), no NAM nonsense, India would've aligned with America and become an economic powerhouse by now (much like S Korea and taiwan are today) etc etc etc
But we can play this game of what if till the cows come home. No point.

Dear voletti:

Thank God, you understand.

-Cheers

Wow, Gorkhali, you really let it fly this time!

Anyhow, nice to see a proper Gurkha on our side defending what we believe in, when many of our own are too stupid and too lazy to educate themselves and take up the fight!


Ayo Gorkhali!

"But we can play this game of what if till the cows come home."

The holy ones, I'm assuming. At least India made a good beginning by exhaling the majority of Muslims out and away. A good start, albeit not perfect. This allowed India to

1. Survive...
2. Make progress financially, educationally, medically, socially, scientifically, and religiously.

Juxtapose India's progress -- post partition -- and the progress of Pakistan and Bangladesh. They are nearly the world's worst basketcases, whereas India has stumbled and struggled but is nevertheless going to take her place among the great nations of the world...

The cumulative number of Muslims residing in Bangladesh, Pakistan, and India numbers over 415,000,000 -- fully 1/3 of the world's Muslim population. Add Indonesia, and you account for about 1/2 of the world's 1.2 billion population of Muslims... Remarkable.

When you consider that fully 1/2 of the world's Muslims reside in areas whose histories were completely non-Western, and non-Christian -- it is difficult not to notice that Islam's effect is basically the same as it was in formerly Christian and Jewish (et al) areas -- that is -- former great civilizations have all been reduced and supplanted by inferior failing Islamic cultures, governments, and economies. Could these realities possibly have something to do with... Islam?

It would appear that even starting from a totally different sphere culturally, religiously, and economically, Islam is still able to work it's ineluctable magic on the locals, and to reduce formerly great peoples to little more than cattle and chattle.

chattel -- gotta start using spell check - sorry folks...

My Goodness! Such a fuss!

I suppose that a deck of Mohammed playing cards would cause such apoplexy as to bring down the entire Islamic world.

A non-issue. How many of those Muslim morons in Kashmir can read anyway, let alone read Danish?

Where are the Mapplethorpes and the other "brave" artists? "Piss Christ" is easy, isn't it? What about doggie doo koran? Posted by: American

I love it, wish I had credentials and connections i that community, I would not only bring it up, but shove feces in their face for cowardice and/or double standards.

Enough is enough already.

On topic. I think that the boycott is great, like the riots in Pakistan over the toilet Qur'an.

How insane can you get, shooting your spouse because some guy across the world offended your sensibilities, let's have more outrages and maybe Islam will self destruct.

Let's turn up the burners, hasten their self destruction, maybe the rest of the world will be forced to look evil in it's eye and call it by it's name.

Yet, the liberal part of me,is impelled to pity such intellectually impoverished, infantile and gullible creatures.. What a miserable lot they are, no wonder their countries are backwaters, overbreed and can't even feed their people.
I should pity them, but I really can't, disgust overrides pity.

Question to the Bush Administration, urgent alert, Explain to us taxpayers why these dysfunctionals are allowed to emigrate. Muslims get in by simply filing as political refugees or students, meanwhile Americans get heartburn when laborers who are willing to do work we wouldn't touch, at wages we wouldn't accept risk life and limb to come here to WORK (not pilfer off of welfare, but to WORK, picking tomatoes, lettuce, laying roofing tiles for less than $5.00 an hour).

Jsla:

"..Islam is still able to work it's ineluctable magic.."

Magic? Nothing magic there. Fear, terror, poverty, overbreeding, stupidity, hostility, collective insanity.......... fill in the rest.

But magic? Only in the form of superstition..

Ayo Gorklali, your post has enlighten me about Ghandi. unfortunately many in the Western schools are tought a very different history. l have even more respect for the Hindus of India.

Just a note on Gandhi...Gandhi had a years long written correspondance with Leo Tolstoy. The last letter written by Tolstoy before his death was written to Gandhi. Gandhi had read Tolstoys book, "The Kingdom of Heaven Is Within You'. 1894.(Suggested reading by most peace groups.) In fact he read it twice and was profoundly affected by Tolstoys ideas. (He said so). So he wrote to Tolstoy and that started their paper friendship. If you know some Gandhi quotes and read Tolstoys book, you can see where Gandhi got the idea.

Everyone has their supporters and detractors. More so with people in power. Everyone of them can be picked apart. Tell me the name of your favorite person in power, give me ten minutes and I can rip em to shreds...thats easy.
The reality of Gandhi is only known to Allah, and he aint talking...thanks for the interesting history lessons...have a good day...

If india is a democracy why doesnt it give Kashmiris the right to vote in a plebisite for their future as the UN resolution has insisted since 1948? Canada which is a democracy did this with Quebec.

Why isnt India taken to task for non-complaince with UN resolutions?

Thank you Lulu and Sheik Yer'Mami for your comments.
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And now to deal woth another gonadal eminence: Rumi, the proud terrorist.


Rumi,

You are more of a retard for even trying to bring up that argument. What are you? The product of two first cousins getting married? Probably true since science and reason overlooked Paki-land and incestious marriages still are common practice. How's that for the wisdom of Islam?

1. In order for the plebiscite to take place in 1948, it was agreed upon by Pakistan as well, that Pakistan will withdraw its entire military from Kashmir in order for a plebiscite to take place. It didn't comply you bastards still have Pakistani Occupied Kashmir which you have eradicated the Kashmiri culture and instead the Kashmiri of Pakistan speak Punjabi now, way to go dude. Now since you didn’t comply, that is strike one against the plebiscite.

2. According to the history of Kashmir, you claim people invade Muslim land etc, and you have a right to defend it, well moron, Kashmir is Hindu land, and we have a right to take back everything including Pakistan and send you packing to Saudi Arabia.

The name Kashmir means “The land of Kashyap”. And Kashyap was a Hindu sage, thus what does it mean? It means you people are thieves who have no right to our ancestral land.


3. According to the right to accession, the princely states of India were given the option to choose to join India or Pakistan, naturally all the Hindu and Sikh kingdoms joined India, and thus many places like Rajputana (now called Rajasthan) became part of India in 1949, two years after independence of British India.

However, Pakistan invaded Kashmir and this forced the King of Kashmir and Tibet, Maharaja Hira Singh, to decide quickly, since he was Hindu, he joined India (too bad sucker).

4. The demographics of the population have changed so much due to Islamic terrorism and the genocide of Hindus in Pakistani controlled Kashmir that the plebiscite now is obsolete. The people who had the right to vote were alive in 1948, now we can’t allow for a bunch of terrorists to suddenly take to the polls.

5. The state known as “Jammu and Kashmir” is comprised of Ladakh (80% of the land of the state and its Buddhist, they don’t want a plebiscite, Gee I wonder why?)


10 % comprises the land of Jammu, which is Hindu.
10 % comprises the land of Kashmir valley, however after the genocide and ethnic cleansing committed by the Muslims against the Hindus; this also nullifies the entire voting process.

6. The Kashmir valley is also referred to as “Pannun Kashmir” which is known throughout the world as the homeland of the Kashmiri Hindu Pundit community.

7. Taken from the Kashmir Information website:

“Contrary to claims made by Kashmiri secessionists and their sympathizers, there is no legal ambiguity about the accession of Jammu and Kashmir state to India. At the time of independence from Britain in 1947, the more than 500 principalities that formed the Indian dominion had the option to join India or the newly formed Pakistan, or declare themselves an independent state. The principality of Jammu and Kashmir was invaded by Pakistan to force its king Maharaja Hari Singh to join Pakistan. In face of the open aggression the king decided to accede to India. This accession was supported and ratified by Sheikh Mohammed Abdullah the leader of National Conference, the largest political in the state which had mobilized the masses against the autocratic rule of the king. As part of the agreement of Jammu and Kashmir's entry into the Indian Union, a special status was given to the state which was enshrined in the Article 370 of the Indian Constitution. A list of documents that provide further details is given below.”

8. http://www.kashmi-rinformation.com/LegalDocs/index.html

9. Instrument of Accession of Jammu and Kashmir State dated 26 October, 1947.

Whereas the Indian Independence Act, 1947, provides that as from the fifteenth day of August, 1947, there shall be set up an independent Dominion known as INDIA, and that the Government of India Act 1935, shall with such omissions, additions, adaptations and modifications as the Governor General may by order specify, be applicable to the Dominion of India.
And whereas the Government of India Act, 1935, as so adapted by the Governor General, provides that an Indian State may accede to the Dominion of India by an Instrument of Accession executed by the Ruler thereof.
Now, therefore, I Shriman Inder Mahinder Rajrajeswar Maharajadhiraj Shri Hari Singhji, Jammu & Kashmir Naresh Tatha Tibbet adi Deshadhipati, Ruler of Jammu & Kashmir State, in the exercise of my Sovereignty in and over my said State do hereby execute this my Instrument of Accession and
I hereby declare that I accede to the Dominion of India with the intent that the Governor General of India, the Dominion Legislature, the Federal Court and any other Dominion authority established for the purposes of the Dominion shall by virtue of this my Instrument of Accession but subject always to the terms thereof, and for the purposes only of the Dominion, exercise in relation to the State of Jammu & Kashmir (hereinafter referred to as "this State") such functions as may be vested in them by or under the Government of India Act, 1935, as in force in the Dominion of India, on the 15th day of August 1947, (which Act as so in force is hereafter referred to as "the Act').
I hereby assume the obligation of ensuring that due effect is given to provisions of the Act within this State so far as they are applicable therein by virtue of this my Instrument of Accession.
I accept the matters specified in the schedule hereto as the matters with respect to which the Dominion Legislature may make law for this State.
I hereby declare that I accede to the Dominion of India on the assurance that if an agreement is made between the Governor General and the Ruler of this State whereby any functions in relation to the administration in this State of any law of the Dominion Legislature shall be exercised by the Ruler of the State, then any such agreement shall be construed and have effect accordingly.
The terms of this my Instrument of Accession shall not be varied by any amendment of the Act or the Indian Independence Act, 1947, unless such amendment is accepted by me by Instrument supplementary to this Instrument.
Nothing in this Instrument shall empower the Dominion Legislature to make any law for this State authorizing the compulsory acquisition of land for any purpose, but I hereby undertake that should the Dominion for the purpose of a Dominion law which applies in this State deem it necessary to acquire any land, I will at their request acquire the land at their expense, or, if the land belongs to me transfer it to them on such terms as may be agreed or, in default of agreement, determined by an arbitrator to be appointed by the Chief Justice of India.
Nothing in this Instrument shall be deemed to commit in any way to acceptance of any future constitution of India or to fetter my discretion to enter into agreement with the Government of India under any such future constitution.
Nothing in this Instrument affects the continuance of my Sovereignty in and over this State, or, save as provided by or under this Instrument, the exercise of any powers, authority and rights now enjoyed by me as Ruler of this State or the validity of any law at present in force in this State.
I hereby declare that I execute this Instrument on behalf of this State and that any reference in this Instrument to me or to the Ruler of the State is to be construed as including a reference to my heirs and successors.
Given under my hand this 26th day of October, nineteen hundred and forty seven.
Hari Singh
Maharajadhiraj of Jammu and Kashmir State.

10. Reply from Lord Mountbatten to Maharajah Sir Hari Singh dated 27 October 1947

My dear Maharajah Sahib,
Your Highness's letter, dated the 26th Octobers has been delivered to me by Mr. V.P. Menon. In the special circumstances mentioned by Your Highness, my Government have decided to accept the accession of Kashmir State to the Dominion of India. Consistently with their policy that. in the case of any State where the issue of accession has been the subject of dispute, the question of accession should be decided in accordance with the wishes of the people of the State, it is my Government's wish that, as soon as law and order have been restored in Kashmir and her soil cleared of the invader, the question of the State's accession should be settled by a reference to the people. Meanwhile, in response to your Highness's appeal for military aid, action has been taken today to send troops of the Indian Army to Kashmir to help your own forces to defend your territory and to protect the lives, property and honour of your people.
My Government and I note with satisfaction that your Highness has decided to invite Sheikh Abdullah to form an Interim Government to work with your Prime Minister.
Yours sincerely,
(Sd/-) Mountbatten of Burma
11. I do hereby accept this Instrument of Accession. Dated this twenty seventh day of October, nineteen hundred and forty seven.

Mountbatten of Burma
Governor General of India.


12. Probably you don’t recall this but Pakistan signed the Simla accord with India in which it accepted that Kashmir belonged to India.

So what if India is a democracy? It’s a democracy for people who believe in being civilized, unlike your sadistic philosophy of killing and raping.


So tell me, why isn’t Pakiland taken to task for creating so many terrorist like you in its Madrassas.

Its too bad your Trisomy 21 got the better of you, or was it Fragile X?

-Ayo Gorkhali
Here come the Gurkhas!

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