How can Muslims who say that they accept pluralism and Western governments as they are currently constituted reply to Abu Hamza's assertion here that Muhammad claimed the whole earth for Islam? Answer: they don't. Evidently they just hope that non-Muslims will not notice this material. Imam Hook Trial Update from the TimesOnline, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:
TWO very different Abu Hamzas appeared at the Old Bailey yesterday as the trial of the former imam of Finsbury Park mosque was shown video recordings of the radical cleric preaching.Abu Hamza al-Masri sat in silence in the dock watching a much more animated and younger version of himself. The on-screen Abu Hamza was passionate, gesticulating with the stumps of his amputated arms as he emphasised the plight of Muslims around the world, the duty to fight the unbeliever and the evils of democracy.
This Abu Hamza emphasised the need for young Muslim men to train for jihad and to identify targets including the law courts, banks and brothels — all of them symbols of corrupt “kuffar countries” like Britain....
The war against the unbeliever must be fought, Abu Hamza stated, “until you see the Khilafa sitting in the White House ruling from there like the Prophet Muhammad said, that Allah showed him the Earth, that Allah told him that the whole Earth will be for Muslims, booty for Islam.”
The trial continues.
WHAT HE SAID
ON MUSLIMS IN BRITAIN
“It looks unfortunately that we have been forced to be inside a toilet . . . and some of us think they can be leaders in that toilet unfortunately. We are all under the feet and the heavy boots of the kuffar”ON FIGHTING
“The first phase is called the Shawkat al-Nekaya, it is called the needle of bleeding the enemy. Like you imagine you have one small knife and you have a big animal in front of you . . . You have to stab him here and there until he bleeds to death . . . This is the first stage of jihad, destruction of the enemies of Allah”ON LEGITIMATE TARGETS
“Every court is a target and every brothel is a target and everybody who’s endorsing that is a target”ON CHRISTIANITY
“The Church itself have lost every capacity it has. In the hearts and minds of people preachers have become homosexual, they have become child hazard. Churches have become places of dancing, iniquity, business, black magic, you name it. Child prostitution and everyday there is evidence of that”ON MULTICULTURALISM
“The Hindus don’t worship God, they worship the cow, and as far as Christians (are concerned) they don’t worship God they worship Jesus, and Jews they worship their desires and Muslims, they worship Allah. So your God is different from their God”ON WEAPONS
“We ask Muslims to . . . bleed the enemies of Allah anywhere by any means. You can’t do it by nuclear weapon, you have to do it by kitchen knife, no other solution. You can’t do it by chemical weapons, you have to do it by mice poison”
"Law courts, banks and brothels" are potential targets. Presumably he would also make no distinction between museums and night clubs, libraries and porn shops, the House of Commons and Celebrity Big Brother. Actually that last one was Georgie Galloway, but he could well be a Muslim, though his frisky business with Rula Lenska may get him into trouble with some of his constituents who want to promote virtue and prevent vice.
Well, George, she's not called Rula for nothing - you'll have to measure up.
Islam, of course makes no distinction between high and low culture - it is all kufr. Celebrity Big Brother is the price you pay for Shakespeare.
ON MUSLIMS IN BRITAIN
“It looks unfortunately that we have been forced to be inside a toilet . . . and some of us think they can be leaders in that toilet unfortunately. We are all under the feet and the heavy boots of the kuffar”
It's a tough life for Islamists in the UK alright. Among the postings at Harry's Place yesterday, there was an item about "Hook Hamza's" plastic prosthetics that linked to a newspaper item that the British taxpayers are paying 30,000 pounds / year to pay a nurse to wipe his @rse so he didn't injure himself after... ...er, you know.
“The first phase is called the Shawkat al-Nekaya, it is called the needle of bleeding the enemy. Like you imagine you have one small knife and you have a big animal in front of you . . . You have to stab him here and there until he bleeds to death . . . This is the first stage of jihad, destruction of the enemies of Allah”
This "death by 1000 cuts" is widespread and seems to be going as planned.
Of course the islamic god and the Christian God are not the same..........
moslems cannot understand that Christianity has only one God and they cannot understand a loving God.
allah is a pagan moon god adjusted by the murderous,paedophilic, epileptic to suit his own ends.
Unfortunately this cult has become so large because of the participants willingness to to bloodily coerce people into submission to their evil.
We really, really have to fight this evil.
Marilyn, on his peadophilia and murderousness I am with you, but since when has epilepsy been any sort of a moral crime? I think that's rather unkind to a good many people who suffer terribly from a condition over which they have no control. He may not have been a paragon of blond teutonic perfection, but it's his opinions and beliefs that should concern us, not his medical condition, surely?
George Galloway is on Celebrity Big Brother?!
WDH?
I guess that means sometime next year, we in the US will start seeing our politicians on "reality" TV, since we seem to be following Europe's lead
Thanks Europe :-S
Condemned by many Muslims as too extreme...
--- BBC report on Abu Hamza
Too extreme? Has the BBC finally set a standard for an acceptable level of Moslem murderousness? Are we making incremental progress here?
It looks unfortunately that we have been forced to be inside a toilet...
How can a wharf rat from a hell-hole like Egypt possible slander the British Isles? You English need to give Abu some more of that good welfare so he'll have some appreciation.
"Too extreme" means "too obvious" in the Islamic cross-cultural jihadist dictionary.
You have to say these things in the mosques, not out on the infidel streets.
Sheesh, what a dolt!
He's trying to give the theo-geo-political game away before Iran gets a nuke!
(And isn't the "Ham" part of his name, haram, anyway?)
I read the article...
It doesnt GET much more specific than that..
He is TELLING us ...
Your country is worse than a toilet..
Even though the muslims are reaping all the benifits from the country they hate so much..
He is also TELLING his MUSLIM followers to TARGET
Banks, Churches, BROTHELS --- not sure why he hates them so much...
But the most telling part was the Work with your families or alone....
He obviously wasnt talking about civil work projects..
Unless those projects included the use of
C4 or semtex...
APF and Profitsbeard - totally spot on, you've both hit the nail on the head. Too extreme means too obvious, too crudely put. Thank you both. Please, write to the BBC.
This is sort of related to "Islam and London"
Conspiracy theory indicates that British Muslims were NOT responsible for the London subway bombings:
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7§ion=0&article=76184&d=13&m=1&y=2006
Anybody seen a photo or video of Abu Hamza?
New Black Panther Supreme Military Commander and Harvard Man Malik Zulu Shabbazz better not get overconfident. Abu is quite a looker.
Unless I'm not looking close enough, there's no coverage of this story on the BBC website http://news.bbc.co.uk/ Why's that?
Chatillon
Today it's at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4609412.stm
and there is discussion on the next thread, Hamza had terrorism manual, which might interest you, about how amazing it is to see straightforward factual reporting on the BBC for once.
Thanks Granny.
Chilling stuff.