Clinton warns of rising anti-Islamic feeling

Is this jackass Jimmy Carter's nephew or something?

I guess it is safe to assume that Clinton is NOT a fan of Orianna Falacci.

Any word about the size of the qatari honorarium for the sanctimonious mr. clinton?

From Clinton's comments, its obvious he has never seen these cartoons. He probably averted his eyes so as not to be striken blind.
If only Monica had washed the semen from her dress the way Aisha washed old Mo's from his thong, Bill could have avoided a lot of impeachment crapola.

*sigh*
i'm no Clinton-basher, in fact i like the guy (go on - slap me around with your right-wing kipper) - but on this issue he is missing the point entirely.

what about the death threats Mr Clinton?
what about foreign governments calling for the newspaper editors to be "punished" Mr Clinton?

what about Islamic intolerance of free speech Mr Clinton?

and finally Mr Clinton - if you look at the sheer SCALE and near-violence of the response, shouldnt you Mr Clinton be asking some serious deep questions about the nature of Islam itself?

All these ex presidents on the Arab dole, plotting with the Mohamedans against the infidels. It is a sad time that our leaders and exleaders will so enthusiastically toss the infidels on the pyre of Islam for a few shilings.

How much has this empty smiler received for his appearance in Qatar? How much has he received, directly or indirectly, from other Arab sources, including the fantastic sum apparently received by those who deliver the Faris Lectures at the Fletcher School -- endowed by an Arab, and said to pay something like $100,000 for a single speech (still not quite up to Kuwaiti standards, which can offer ex-Presidents a cool million for a single appearance)?

At other threads the hideous refusal of Western governments or statesmen to express solidarity with Denmark, and the principle of free speech, and against Saudi bullying, has been noted. Clinton does far worse. He claims, before a Muslim audience, that they are right; he expresses solidarity not with Denmark and a Danish newspaper and Areopagitica and John Peter Zenger and the First Amendment, but with those who would throw it all out.

He cannot be distinguished from his wife, any more than MacBeth could be distinguished from Lady MacBeth.

All it takes is for one solitary political figure -- it could be of either party -- to take issue with this nauseating remark, and to defend free speech, to blow Clinton, and his wife who will not be able to disassociate herself from him, out of the water.

Oh, and one more thing. Which "cartoons" do you think Clinton was given? The real things, which were so mild as to hardly merit a second glance, or the made-up cartoons that those Danish Muslims attributed to Jyllens-Posten and have used to whip up Muslim masses -- easy to whip up -- and Muslim governments (ditto)--all over.

Clinton's negligence, his airy inattention to serious matters, should not be forgotten.

Meanwhile, the next time he appears at the Tisbury State Fair, or makes a big deal out of paying a visit to the Grapes of Wrath bookstore i in Vineyard Haven (he and his wife being great readers, you see) someone should ask, pointedly, about Zenger, and the First Amendment, and whether Clinton thinks it was right to stand up before a Muslim audience in Muslim Qatar and tell them that they are right, and that in the Cartoon Affair it is Denmark and Jyllens-Posten that are at fault and should be criticized.

This remark should not be forgotten. It should be engraved in everyone's memory.

Ask his wife what she thinks of the hysteria, the death-threats, the Internet attacks, the recall of Saudi and Libyan ambassadors, the economic boycott, the demand that the U.N. take up the issue and pass a world-wide ban on any criticism of any religion -- and we all know what that "any religion" happens to be.

Disgust.

I feel the rising of Anti-Clinton feelings. This is a sure vote getter for Hillary in 08.

Clinton's arguing disgust at beheading videos is the same thing as Jew-hatred in Germany in 1932.

Clinton has taken one too many contribution and wants to lead the UN. This is another chapter in Our Strange Planet.

Off subject but important:

You can listen to Bill Handel's response to CAIR at KFI.
Link: http://www.kfi640.com/main.html

Email him encouragement at: bill@kfi640.com

This is worth more than we know....

This bs from the man responsible, in the sense that Sharon is 'responsible' for the Shatila 'massacre' of 200 palestinians, for the slaughter of ONE MILLION Tutsis in Rwanda by Hutu murderers, half the world population of Tutsis.

Clinton is 'responsible' for the only real holocaust to take place since WW2 - absolute slimeball.

Btw, this comes from someone who admired him, pre Rwanda holocaust; he is totally SHAMELESS, considering himself 'almost' blameless re Rwanda.
I prefer the Canadian army general, Dallaire, who, head of the U.N. forces in Rwanda, obeyed U.N. orders and let the slaughter go on. He, at least, feels the guilt and has attempted suicide, as well he should ( Though, must admit, i'm struck at the thought of a soldier, a general at that, who cannot manage to take his own life ).
Anyway, no lessons from Clinton.
My anger at the equivalency implied by comparing anti semitism in pre war europe - am i forgetting something, were the Jews in pre war europe blowing up Christians, murdering innocents as the muslems are today, or were they peacefully living their lives.
FUCK YOU CLINTON, SLIMEBALL

Clinton is clearly on the Muslim dole. He will say or write anything, and embrace anyone, just to get money to pay off his Lweinsky scandal legal expenses.

How did this clown ever manage to get elected?

Clinton is equating Anti-Semitism to Anti Muslim feelings. Apparently then, the actions, behavior, and history of the Jews is equivalent to the actions, behavior, and history of Islam.

And people like him wonder why I can't take them seriously. Or respect them. Or refrain from counting my fingers afterwards if I have to shake hands with them.

It looks like Bubba has finally been taught by his adopted surrogate father George Senior how to really rake in the big bucks. Forget about the penny ante few hundred thousand dollar speeches to cheering American admirers. Go to the Gulf where you can suck up to the oil sheiks and get on a really large gravy train.

"Clinton is equating Anti-Semitism to Anti Muslim feelings."

yeah - and there were thousands of Jewish suicide bombers murdering German civilians in the run up to Hitlers election - and the Jews were calling for the extermination and genocide of all Germans...and the Jews were chopping off the heads of Gentiles in the name of the Torah...NOT!!!

man , that is SERIOUSLY going to piss off the Israelis.

I wonder what they think about this disgusting comparision?

i literally am close to being physically sick about this.

The smiles of Allah are upon William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. REAL BIG SMILES!!! Oboy.

Someone needs to tell Mr. Beehll Cleentohn that the Jews do not have a history of slaughtering and torturing hundreds of millions of innocent people. But the Muslims certainly DO.

Someone also needs to tell Mr. Cleentohn that Hitler was a great admirer of Islam and his plan to exterminate the Jews was inspired by Islamic ideology, that the Qur'an calls for extermination of the Jews, and that Islam continues to perpetrate genocidal wars, terrorism, and crimes against humanity with impunity day and night.

PLEASE TELL Mr. Cleentohn that Islam is NOT an ethnicity. It is a political and pseudo-religious ideology that authorizes and prescribes murder.

AND SOMEONE PLEASE TELL MR CLINTON: ignoring jihad wars aimed to you could bring holocaust to his own people and country.

Oh and please Mr. Cleentohn that NO ONE IS DOING HOLY WARS EXCEPT MUSLIMS.

It looks like Bubba has finally been taught by his adopted surrogate father George Senior how to really rake in the big bucks. Forget about the penny ante few hundred thousand dollar speeches to cheering American admirers. Go to the Gulf where you can suck up to the oil sheiks and get on a really large gravy train.

I wish some major media types would look into Gulf Arab influence buying everywhere from politicians to universities. This goes beyond partisan politics.

"I wish some major media types would look into Gulf Arab influence buying everywhere from politicians to universities"

i doubt it if any of MSM will get into that - as per usual, it'll be the bloggers.

Funnily enough, I don't remember Clinton taking a really strong stand on antisemitism when he was president. /sarcasm

Why are we so surprised?

We all knew what type of man he was when he was in office why should he change now. He is a man of convenience, plain and simple. He speaks out of the side of his mouth so if he doesn't stab you today, he will tomorrow - all for convenience. He is just so blissfully unaware and ignorant he makes Dan Quayle look like a genious!

To add to the other posts above, please do not forget the Bosnia affair, Chechnya, and Afganistan. Is it any wonder he was out manouvered by every foreign political novice when it came to foreign affairs. He even managed to make that piece of mohamedan shit Yasser Arafat look good.

Think of what would have happened by now with respect to Iran had he still been in office. He would probably apply the same logic used when he dealt with King Kong Chill in North Korea...and we all know how successful that was at stoping the nuclear arms race in Asia. I would wager that by now Bill and the mighty midgit would be standing shoulder to knee in the rose garden giving each other bear hugs. I LOVE YOU MAAAAN!!!!

Nice work Bill! you're a moron...and you deserve every cent you get from the muslim morons you preach your touchy feely gargle my balls cud too.

As I have said before to countless others, do not open your mouth if you have nothing to say...IT WASTES OXYGEN!!!

HEY MONICA!!! You under there? Give us a little gooey kiss:-)

Predict rising anti Clinton feelings for 'I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THIS WOMAN' wild Bill Democrat Hiccup. We have seen this fellow LIE to us on our T.V screens around the world : would anyone TRUST this dude?? Think not including War Mongering Wife Hillary. Yes, exactly how much is this 'champion of Democracy & Free Speech' receiving from his Paymasters in Middle East for perjuring his soul along with the rest of his body...

Somebody stuff a thong in this moron's mouth and move on.

Bill Quisling, blowing the saxophone of surrender.

Not only did William Clinton give one of the well-endowed - perhaps the best-paying lecture series in the United States -- Issam M. Fares Lectures, but he was followed by his wife.

Here is an account of her speech -- on the theme of "Dialogue" (which with Muslims always and everywhere means not a real dialogue, but the legitimization, by providing a forum for, taqiyya and tu-quoque, and dignifying the most absurd Muslim propaganda)-- which after the pro-forma "Israel's security is a cornerstone" boilerplate (greeted, according to the report, with boos as well as cheers, in what appears to be equal numbers -- which tells us all we need to know about the audience at the Fletcher School of Law, Diplomacy, and International Relations), she tells us that "our fates" (that is, those of the United States and the Middle East) are "inextricably bound" (not if we Infidels have anything to say about it), that she deplores the problems Turkey is having with being admitted to the E.U., and so on.

Take a good look. And then perhaps google her husband's money-grubbing performance a year or two before.

Here it is:

"ast Wednesday’s appearance by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D, NY) could not have come at a more momentous time. Concluding a two-day conference “Engaging in Dialogue on U.S. Foreign Policy,” held at The Fletcher School and sponsored by the Fares Center for Eastern Mediterranean Studies, Senator Clinton spoke to a massive crowd – the largest gathering for a Fares Center lecture – on anticipated American policy in the Middle East. Her talk came on the heels of the re-election of Republican President George W. Bush, as well as one day before the death of Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat.

“I hope that there will be changes in process, policy and engagement in the region,” Senator Clinton began. Citing the necessity in the United States’ involvement – “Our fates are inextricably bound together” – she structured her talk around “free, unsolicited advice to the current administration.”

Continuing in the “family tradition” of Clintons giving Fares Lectures (her husband, former President Bill Clinton, spoke at Tufts in 2002), Senator Clinton clearly understood the divisiveness of the issues she had come to discuss. Thanking Tufts for its willingness to take on “controversial, honest dialogue” on Middle East issues, she boldly outlined a number of directives that she believes the U.S. must take.

Clinton first asserted that Israel’s security and freedom is the “hallmark of U.S. foreign policy,” drawing both applause and boos from the crowd. She continued down her list of major directives by declaring, “The dream of democracy and human rights belongs to all people in the Middle East… Women’s rights are human rights.”

Although not mentioned by Senator Clinton herself, the packed house was abuzz with talk of her potential run for the presidency in 2008. She retold how she had been one of the first US politicians to condemn inequalities in Afghanistan society, adding the ironic punch line: there are now women on the ballot for presidency in Afghanistan, unlike in the U.S.

Despite her crowd-pleasing neo-feminist statements, the majority of Senator Clinton’s speech was reserved for more contentious topics: decrying President Bush’s involvement in Iraq, Turkey’s non-inclusion into the European Union, and the fate of the Palestinian conflict in a post-Arafat world. “The passing of Mr. Arafat provides the opportunity for… America to be engaged,” she noted, adding that “Palestinians [need] to see how damaging the Intifada has been, not just to others but to them as well.”

In typical Fletcher fashion a dialog quickly immerged at the conclusion of Clinton’s speech. Fletcher second-year student Shane Antony immediately responded to Senator Clinton’s lecture: “While she was correct in saying that the Palestinians definitely share some measure of the blame for the stalled peace negotiations in the Middle East, she did not seem to mention… Israel’s role in the failure to achieve any real solution.”

Rachel Gottesfeld, also a second-year, countered Antony’s accusations: “I don’t think that Mrs. Clinton was blaming Arafat for the dire straits of the peace process, but she was drawing attention to the need for accountability and rapprochement… highlighting the failures of Mr. Arafat and the peace process as an impetus for change in the Middle East.”

Clinton acknowledged that at this moment, on the verge of global change, it is not necessarily the policymakers who have the answers, but academics, practitioners and students alike upon whom this responsibility falls. “We may be at a unique historical moment in the Middle East. Now more than ever we need not only top-quality research and theory but also strategic analysis.”

Article by Stephanie Lindenbaum, MALD '05

Ah yes. "We may be at a unique historical moment in the Middle East." Sounds just like Condoleeze Rice who believes the MIddle East is in the middle of some grand "transition." Good God. The Middle East is in the middle of using its oil wealth, and the fact of millions of Muslims now behind what they regard as enemy lines, and with the wherewithal to conduct the Greater Jihad against the entire Infidel world instead of, as in pre-OPEC and pre-Muslim migration days, merely the Lesser Jihad against tiny Israel-- is conducting it. That's what we see. The doctrine of Jihad never disappeareed. It is central to Islam. It merely, at times, when the wherewithal was lacking, fell intu desuetude. The wherewithal is not now lacking -- hence, the Jihad, here and there and everywhere, conducted using whatever instruments -- terrorism, open combat (qital), economic warfare (boycotts, bribery), propaganda (Da'wa conducted by Muslims, an army of non-Muslim apologists for Islam in the universities, business, all sorts of "True-blue National Interest" patriots on the Arab dole, paid directly or indirectly from oil revenues, sometimes by the Saudis, sometimes by others.

How much does the Issam M. Fares Lectureship pay? Reputedly, $100,000.

Let's find out. Let's find out who else has given an Annual Fares Lecture. Let's find out if there's a Middle Eastern theme to the series.

Let's find out if there are beaming pictures of the speakers with Issam M. Fares or other family members.

Let's find out where "international businessman" Issam M. Fares, who has been a member of the Lebanese government, the pro-Syrian government of assorted islamochristian or merely venal timeservers including Emile Lahoud, got his money? The Gulf bonanza, perhaps, just like Hariri, or that Lebanese contracting family that has proven such an angel to the "Center for Musliim-Christian Understanding" of jogging John Esposito?

"Let's find out where the money came from. "

damn good idea.

I'd bet Mr Spencer and Matt Drudge will be highly interested in what you dig up.

The war is over, Jyllands-Posten has published an apology on its website www.jp.dk.
No reason to defend freedom of speech for a newspaper unwilling to defend its principles.

George Bush Senior gave the first Fares Lecture. It wasn't as much as the million he pocketed from the grateful Al-Sabah family of Kuwait (who better, as the Kuwaitis saw it, o reward for the resuce of Kuwait than the "Ruler" of America, George Bush? And George Bush was happy to travel, happy to take the money) but it was much more for an hour or two than most of us make in a year. And he felt so good about it that he was back for more, this supposed Pillar of Yankee Rectitude, in 2003.

Here's the little speech the donor, Essam A. Fares, that "international businessman" who was in the pro-Syrian cabinet of Lahoud (is he still? where is he now?), gave on that occasion:

"2003 Issam M. Fares Lecture
Remarks, Issam Fares
February 26, 2003

President George Herbert Walker Bush, President Bacow, Dr. Fawaz, Excellencies, colleagues at Tufts, ladies and gentlemen. It is a great honor for me to welcome President Bush to the Issam Fares Lecture Series at Tufts University. In 1994, President Bush opened this lecture series and set the tone at the highest levels of critical analysis and moral responsibility. He brought forth to this forum the wealth of experience and wisdom he has garnered in a lifetime of public service.

From his perspective as the leader of the sole superpower, he reviewed the role of the American president as he dealt with international affairs, and particularly with the endemic problems of the Middle East. The President had by then formed a broad international coalition that liberated Kuwait and had initiated an intensive political process to resolve the Palestinian/Israeli conflict.

Under his leadership, Washington and Moscow chaired a peace conference in Madrid, Spain in October 1991. The conference brought together for the first time Arabs and Israelis in direct negotiations. The process that started in Madrid gradually gained momentum and promised lasting peace in the Middle East. Unfortunately, new and unpredicted events halted this process and brought us to the violence and chaos that now prevail in the region.

Mr. President, ladies and gentlemen, successive world leaders, President Bill Clinton, Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, Secretary James Baker, General Colin Powell and Senator and Majority Leader, George Mitchell, spoke all from this forum and addressed the Middle East crisis from their perspectives, and from the facts of their times.

Today, United States President George W. Bush, is addressing the Middle East crisis from a perspective never experienced before. This is the perspective of September 11, 2001. That one single act has changed the rules of the game, and has mixed all the cards. Deeply and understandably, angry for being attacked in the mainland for the first time, America reacted by declaring war on terrorism worldwide. [applause]

This act has received strong international support. But, in the heat of war, issues especially those relating to the Middle East got clouded. Though those who committed the crime were Arab Muslims, neither the Arabs nor the Muslims can be held responsible for that evil act. Lebanon, along with almost all Arab and Islamic countries condemned strongly this act of violence against the United States. The misguided few should thus never be regarded as representatives of Arabs and/or Islam. [applause]

We are delighted that President George W. Bush makes this differentiation clear at every opportunity. He regularly speaks highly of Islam and Muslims, and of the Arab civilization and the Arab people. However, the danger of mixing the good with bad persists. There is also the danger of mistaking the symptom for the cause. The symptom is easy to identify and to attach; the cause is often hidden and not always easy to address.

There is no justification whatsoever for what happened on September 11th. We must admit, however, that angry and violent individuals and groups are byproducts of frustration boiling below the surface across the Arab and Islamic worlds. We thus need to go below the surface and attempt seriously to resolve conflicts and misunderstandings before they explode further. Resolving the endemic Middle East conflicts will never stop completely all types of terrorist acts, but it will definitely bring the region closer to a lasting peace.

Thus, while conducting the war on global terrorism, it's important for the United States and the countries of the Middle East to address and tackle, honestly and courageously, the issues that are contributing to the gross of terrorism around the globe. I would like today to stress three major issues, which I consider to be prerequisites for a successful war on terrorism.

First, the Palestinian/Israeli conflict has become, by virtue of religious and political associations, an Arab/Israeli problem. And by virtue of American interests in the region, the United States has become substantially involved. It is thus the responsibility of the United States, and all the countries of the region, to reach quickly a just and lasting peace that will stop all violence emanating from the prolonged conflict.

Two, the fundamentals of American foreign policy, namely concerns for democracy, for human rights, for national aspirations, and for the norms of justice, are not always applied in our region. The realization of these objectives ought to be faithfully pursued across the Middle East.

Three, historically the western media has formed a simplistic cartoon-like image of Arab and Islam. The events of 9/11 reinforce these stereotype images. The Arab Islamic civilization is certainly of no lesser importance in world history than the western Christian civilization. And as such, it deserves a greater, deeper and more serious treatment than it presently receives in the western world.

Ladies and gentlemen, the main reason for this Tufts University Lecture Series is to enrich the cultural exchange between America and the Arab world. Here I would like to challenge the American and Arab business communities with interests in both parts of the world to do a lot more to improve the understanding among our peoples. I modestly suggest that such events focus on issues that would help bring about historic conciliation among the three religions that emanated from the Middle East: Judaism, Christianity and Islam. And of the civilizations that arouse from them.

Mr. President, again I welcome you to this forum, and I consider your return to Tufts as the beginning of your new phase in this lecture series. I thank you for your readiness to share always with us your views on international issues as they affect the Middle East. President Bush, welcome, sir, to this Tufts University Forum."

Bush twice, George Mitchell (the "Mitchell Plan"), James Baker (see his Princeton undergraduate thesis, on why it was a mistake for the United States to recognize Israel), the Great and Good who can be influenced (Thatcher, Powell, etc.). To someone like Essam Fares, that kind of thing makes sense.

One little coda to the tale:

Remember how touchingly transparent the Saudis were in trying to buy the favor of Clinton. They had been putting all their money into Georgetown to buy Washington influence. But when Clinton came to power, for some reason they decided to give the University of Arkansas $10 million for Islamic studies. And as for donations later on to the Clinton Presidential Library -- you already know that Abou Ben Adhem's name led all the rest.

"these totally outrageous cartoons against Islam"

Bloody hell, it's only the end of January and I think we may have already found the 2006 U.S. Dhimmi of the year recipient. The little gem above will certainly be hard to beat.

Robert, may I formally nominate Bill Clinton for this award.

I want someone to ask Bill Clinton to turn over all of whatever he received by going to Qatar to a fund for survivors of Muslim terrorism. He's made a fortune from his "public service." Why, he even had a Legal Defense Fund, related to the investigation of the Lewinsky matter, to which others were expected -- and did -- contribute. He's completely shameless. Try to shame him. And ask his wife if she thinks that what is going on today, in which people look around and see the attacks on Buddhist villagers in southern Thailand, the decapitation of Christain schoolgirls and the mass-murder of Christians a few years ago in East Timor, and now in the Moluccas, who see pictures of Hindus being beaten to death in Bangladesh, and millions of Hindus and other non-Muslims driven out, over time, of both Bangladesh and Pakistan, who see the attacks on Christians throughout the Middle East, who see the mass murder by Muslim Arabs of nearly 2 million black non-Muslims in the southern sudan, and now the murder, by government-supplied Janjaweed, of hundreds of thousands of non-Arab (and therefore inferior, expendable) Musliims in Darfur, who see the demands, the violence, the aggression, of Muslims in Australia, in France, in Spain, in England, in Holland, including murder, and mayhem of every sort -- and now they see the attempt to force Denmark to no longer recognize the right of free speech.

Clinton's behavior in Qatar was beyond belief. Whatever else he has done, with this or that accommodating fellatrix, or in his general behavior, which is not that, as he probably likes to think, of a roguish scamp, nothing compares to this remark comparing antisemitism, a pathological mental disease which was responsible, not so long ago, for the deaths of six million completely innocent people, to the justified apprehension, and worry about the demands and violence being visited upon non-Muslims everywhere in the world, and the attempts to change the very nature of their own societies, as something similar -- an "anti-Islam" attitude that Clinton apparently thinks is on a moral par with what Goebbels, and Eichmann, and Adolf Hitler all did.

Clinton disgusts. He more than disgusts.

Hugh:

The man, as we know, is a shameless whore. What galls me is that he's on a speaking stump and his appearance in my home city of Toronto is being sponsored and promoted by a Jewish organization. I suppose I ought to look up which one and communicate my disgust. This pronouncement is recent, but the man has been long known for walking both sides of the street.

Hugh, I agree. The former president should be forced to disgorge his earnings in the gulf to victims of terror.

In addition, since Clinton is considered so learned - and in some ways is, and since he is known to have widely read, it would be interesting to inquire as to why he appears completely ignorant about the history of militant Islam. I wish there was some way of making Clinton confront his own (historical) ignorance, or in the alternative, explain why he believed a newspaper should be silenced in this way by any "religion".

cheers,

Kafir

I remember the day the Clinton Library opened(I live in Little Rock). First, I 'ran' into Shimon Peres in a local cigar store. I doubt he smokes. I'm sure it was a gift for Bill. But, on the funny side, I saw two Saudis in front of The Capital Hotel in downtown Little Rock. What was funny is how two hotel guys held umbrellas over their 'sainted' heads. I laughed to myself and said dhimma to myself.

This buying and selling of Presidents--Bush Sr. and Clinton is getting a bit old. Even my own personal hero Reagan . . . didn't he go to Japan or something after he left the office. Only Nixon and Carter(ugh) have not cashed in. Carter makes up for this in other odious ways.

Clinton's behavior is nauseating, but it is not unexpected or surprising in the least. But, he's no idiot as another poster points out. The guy's a Rhodes Scholar. And, he's not just book smart but has street smarts as well. He knows what religion is growing by leaps and bounds in Europe. He likes cash. He would like more cash. He knows how inflamed the Arabs are about the cartoons. From his perspective as an ATM, his comments are the smart thing to do.

Isn't it weird how the most disgraced ex president was also the most 'ethical' once he left office. Nixon of Watergate fame would never 'take cash' except from his writings--her too the bulk went to charity. Even when he returned to some level of return to respectibility years before his death, he wouldn't even take a dime. He even refused secret service protection, calling it a waste of money. Look I respect W's father, but he's been an ATM for lots of middle-east cash as has his 'son' Clinton. What a pair of bozos.

Clinton widely read? Only if you count Book-0f-the-Month-Club books. Possibly a biography of John Adams or Benjamin Franklin. Do you think he would tackle "Islam and Dhimmitude" or "The Legacy of Jihad" or "The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam"? But "Tuesdays with Morrie" or that Frey fantasy, or the feelgood "Reading 'Lolita' in Tehran" -- sure, those are on his list.

In one of Oriana Fallaci's books, she mentions that the three sisters who own the Argosy Bookstore tell her that the Clintons are her "great fans." I put this up somewhere at JW, hoping it might be true. Perhaps it is. Perhaps Clinton is perfectly at ease saying the kind of thing he did in Qatar without meaning a word of it. There are times when that is acceptable.

But what Clinton said in Qatar -- comparing antisemitism (and by implication, its sources and its effects), a pathological condition responsible for mass murder, with the tentative, hesitant realization, despite all the pro-Muslim propganda, despite the efforts of practically every government and every major media outlet, to hide or explain away, when it cannot be hidden, the atrocities, and the atrocious demands, being made by Muslims world-wide, that there is something disturbing, worrisome, even dangerous, for Infidels in the tenets of Islam -- for him to compare these two, and to feed into the current Muslim line, offered at many of those "dialogue" sesssions, that "Muslims are the new Jews" -- is unacceptable.

He has gone too far. This cannot be ignored, and he must be reminded of it at every turn.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?rticle=4087

2. Encouragement of objective media and journalism (through a modified act or code of conduct for example). For example, the bastards who bashed the life saver on Cronulla and those who got drunk and bashed innocent people on the street are just 'criminals who broke the law'. Nothing else should be attributed to them. ~FELLOW_HUMAN

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Here's an Aussi answer to stopping anti-islamic feelings. Just call them criminals and don't say why they do what they do. That'll fix it.

Hugh:

Re: "Not only did William Clinton give one of the well-endowed ...."

Freudian slip perhaps?

As for Clinton comparing anti-Semitism with anti-Islamism - please tell us when Jews stormed France burning cars or committed routine rapes as in Denmark. When you can answer questions like those, then we may listen to you. Until then, give Monica a call and she can check up on your endowment.

No, deliberate fun.

So disgusting, yet predictable. More disgusting is how he ever became president. Our political and religious leaders are certainly asleep. Or, worse yet, bought and paid for.

William Jefferson ('Blow-job') Clinton:

Always on the money-trail: Why let morals, integrity, national pride or any other such pesky illusions like the first amendment get in the way?

I can't believe this guy was president of the US!

Who cares for free speech when he can prostitute himself and his 5-cent wisdom in Arab lands?

Talk the talk, Billie-boy, the Arabs gonna love you (or will they?)
BJ and Peanut Carter should be stripped of citizenship. Why not lock them up in Alcatratz where they can't do that much damage anymore?

This fits in well with his previous defeatist pronouncement about "when the U.S. is no longer a global superpower"... a time that he thinks will come in the fairly-near future... and so the U.S. will have to be more reasonable with its current mortal enemies.

So, in effect, we might as well begin capitulating now.

The guy's a defeatist, a liar, and a world-historical pimp. (Read his autobiography... but have a barf bag at hand.)

So what other notable public figure has addressed this issue?

I just hope more Americans become aware of the issue. And if it's a WJC speech that gets it out there, well...

Don't shoot the messenger.

BJ Clinton is setting himself up as a citizen of the world. IMHO I think it is to be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize to counter his tarnished presidency.

I don't think he would turn down a shot at running the UN either.

Prejudice? Prejudice!?

prej·u·dice
n.
1. An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.

I've examined as much of this filth stained "religion" of Islam to know that it's poisonous. I've seen enough hatred and vitriol flowing in torrents out of the Muslim community worldwide, and here in the USA, to know that it's reasonable to infer that Muslims generally support the notion of Jihad, that they will relentlessly lie and mislead ininformed persons about the exact nature of Jihad.

I have seen the worldwide phenomenon of Muslims conducting acts of terrorism, and then, when confronted regarding the undeniable links between their filth stained, blood stained, hate stained "religion", I have seen Muslim worldwide try then to make it seem as if they are the victims of said terror, and not the hapless non-Muslims targets. We saw this in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. We saw this in the immediate aftermath of Madrid. We saw this in the immediate aftermath of Beslan. We saw this in the immediate aftermath of the Moscow theatre attack. We saw this in the first Bali attack. We saw this in the second Bali attack. We saw this in the 7/7 attack in London. We saw this in the 7/21 failed attack in London. I could go on, and on, and on, but I won't... Those are just the "high"lights of the Great Muslim Jihad since 9/11... It was the same yesterday... It will be the same tomorrow.

Muslims are the perpetrators of these acts, and are the victimizers of innocents, they are not innocent...! I have seen countless examples of Muslims expoiting acts of terrorism by their fellow Muslims against non-Muslims, utilizing such "opportunities" to proselytize about Islam, and to scold non-Muslims for not understanding Islam properly rather than confronting the Jihadists in their communities. I have seen Muslims indignantly become furious that any inference or conclusion that Islam has anything to do with such Islamic violence and terrorism, and accuse the speaker of "racism" and "intolerance" and "Islamophobia". I have then witnessed countless times these same Muslims lecturing non-Muslims, suggesting that WE are the ones that need to soul search, that WEare the ones who need to change our policies, and implying that WE, as the victims of THEIR acts of terrorism somehow deserved what we got because we maltreat of Muslims so (and I have never seen convincing evidence that this is even remotely so -- Muslims are treated incredibly well in the West, despite all of their traitorous sedition, and constant accusations, hate speech, and calls for our annihilation...) They never stop construing themselves as the victims of their acts of terror, and they relentlessly victimize the real victims again by implying that "infidel" misbehavior somehow precipitated the Islamic terror in the first place...

I've heard enough Muslim spokespersons refusing to unambiguosly condemn terrorism to know that terrorism really doesn't seem to bother them very much, unless, of course, if precious fellow Muslims are killed, or if such acts then make it harder for them to operate in "infidel" lands --

I have seen an endless stream of Musllims suggest that the perpetrators of Islamic acts of terror are "perverters" of Islam, and then proceed to spend all of their time arguing with infidels who disagree with this clearly mendacious sentiment, rather than convincing their fellow Muslim coreligionists of the error of their ways...

Muslims tell lies. Muslims are taught to hate "infidels". Muslims are taught to kill "infidels". Muslims attack innocents. Muslims love genocide, and relish the idea of exterminating all manner of non-Muslims from the face of the earth... Muslims believe in a brutal, primitive, and heinous fascist ideology... They are not innocent -- NO MUSLIM IS INNOCENT...

Prejudice? I think not, Mr. Clinton... Your pathological pandering is wrong and dangerous. How much have you taken from the Saudis? How much from the Kuwaitis? How much from the UAE, and Qatar, and Bahrain? Why do you say things like this? Readers want to know...

And finally -- as if the above wasn't enough... I view the rise of "anti-Islamic feeling" to be a fantastic thing -- and not prejudicial in the slightest... We need more of it! and now, NOW, NOW!!!

What does Clinton care? He'll chew a little kat pick out a few girls... it's all good!

President Clinton has the distinction of being the second president of the US of A of being impeached. Who cares what he thinks!!!!

Il Toscano

I voted for the guy in 1996. I defended his actions in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Damn, isn't there some rule that a married man should always lie about having had sex with another woman?

But then his wife pissed me off when she didn't defend Martha Stewart who had given her contributions. Him and his wife cried about a wayward prosecutor, then when Martha faces one, they just turn their backs. Damn, Martha did nothing wrong. Real cowardice on the part of the Clintons, I thought.

Now, he pulls this crap. He should be defending the right of the Danish newspaper to print the illustrations. He should be standing with the Danes instead of pulling this crap. It's Martha Stewart all over again.

First of all, the illustrations were not designed to engender hatred against Muslims. If they may have mocked Islam, hasn't Christianity been mocked. Hasn't Judaism been mocked? How in hell are the Saudis to take offense at any thing after their pigs and apes comments about Jewish people?

This whole thing is sick.

My idea is everyone in Europe and the free world has to back the Danes on this one! In 1943, the whole Danish population wore Jewish stars to prevent the Nazis from locating the Jews. We need to something similar here!

Just a little more on Issam M. Fares, who worked hard to garner support for Syria's occupation of Lebanon, and has been a promoter of Syria right up until the last few months, when he realized that the jig was up.

Here's something more on this benefactor of Clinton, of Mrs. Clinton, of James Baker (who in his lecture characteristically praised Syria, and had nothing but criticism for the Israelis), Colin Powell, and Bush, not once but twice:

Dossier: Issam Fares

by Ziad K. Abdelnour

Three years ago, Beirut's Daily Star wrote that Lebanese businessman Issam Fares had a network of connections with senior American officials that "would make most people blush with envy." Widely credited (or discredited) in Lebanon with convincing the first Bush administration to accept Syria's occupation of Lebanon, Fares also cultivated a reputation in the United States as a valuable interlocutor in negotiations with the late Syrian President Hafez Assad.

In reality, however, Fares is less the powerbroker he is often hyped to be than an opportunistic middleman. One by one, to the chagrin of Damascus, his closest political allies in the United States have abandoned their opposition to sanctions against Syria in recent weeks.

Background

Issam Fares, a Greek Orthodox Christian, was born in 1937 in the northern Lebanese town of Bayno. Although raised in a farming region, Fares dreamed of becoming a merchant. At the age of 17, he began working as a clerk for a food services company, Abela Group, and was promoted steadily. After earning a business degree from Tripoli College in 1953, he moved to the Arab Gulf and became head of Abela's operations in Qatar. In the years to follow, he managed its operations in Pakistan, Kuwait, Iran, and Saudi Arabia.

In 1975, as Lebanon began its descent into civil war, Fares left Abela Group and acquired controlling interests in a diverse group of businesses that flourished during the oil boom in the Arab Gulf, such as the Netherlands-based Ballast-Nedam, which grew to become one of the world's largest construction and civil engineering firms. Through his Saudi contacts, Fares secured a number of conspicuously profitable contracts for Ballast-Nedam - most notably, the building of a bridge connecting Bahrain to Saudi Arabia. He later sold the company to British Aerospace and invested in a wide range of oil, real estate and media interests, with the Houston-based Wedge Group as his primary investment vehicle.

Back in Lebanon, Fares' home region of Akkar was heavily occupied by Syrian forces. Although preoccupied with managing and expanding his international business conglomerate, he made contact with senior Syrian military officers in Lebanon and distributed handsome bribes in order to facilitate periodic visits to Akkar for his family. Fares backed the late Phalange leader Bashir Gemayel's bid for the presidency (and contributed money to his Washington-based advocacy group, the American-Lebanese League), but he was careful to hedge his bets and developed a relationship with Maj. Gen. Ghazi Kanaan, the head of Syrian military intelligence in Lebanon.

Fares returned to Lebanon after the end of its bloody civil war in 1990, intent on converting his economic success into political power. As a Greek Orthodox Christian, Fares faced three paramount obstacles. The first is that the top three government positions in Lebanon - president, prime minister, and speaker of parliament - are constitutionally reserved for the three largest religious groups in Lebanon - Maronite Christians, Sunni Muslims, and Shiite Muslims, respectively. A member of the Greek Orthodox community, which comprises about 5% of the population, is therefore barred from this ruling troika. Greek Orthodox Christians traditionally occupy the largely ceremonial offices of deputy prime minister and deputy parliament speaker, and at least one major cabinet portfolio.

A related obstacle is that the Greek Orthodox community in Lebanon is not concentrated in any one geographical area. Unlike Druze leader Walid Jumblatt, whose constituents are heavily concentrated in two districts, an aspiring Greek Orthodox politician cannot gain political power by appealing primarily to his own sect - he must join electoral coalitions with other candidates. The fact that Fares is not from a prominent family made this even more imperative.

Fares also had to contend with the fact that rival Greek Orthodox politician Michel Murr had, by the mid-1990s, already been awarded his sect's single allotment of prize political offices - the powerful Interior Ministry - in return for his fidelity to Syria during the war years. Although Greek Orthodox Christians are a minority in his home district of north Metn, Murr's control of the Interior Ministry allowed him to skew the electoral process in his favor and win over constituents by delivering government services.

Fares' fortune nevertheless allowed him to make marginal inroads into Lebanese politics. Much like other aspiring political elites, he acquired a stake in Lebanon's audio-visual media. In 1995, he purchased a 10% share of Lebanese Broadcasting Corp. International (LBCI) in what Agence France Press called "less-than-transparent circumstances"[1] (his son, Nijad, recently purchased another 10% stake in the station). Fares also spent a considerable sum of money on charitable projects in Lebanon, especially in his home district of Akkar. His enormous financial resources made him an attractive electoral ally. In 1996, he won a seat in parliament after joining former Prime Minister Omar Karami and Maronite feudal lord Suleiman Franjieh in an electoral coalition in northern Lebanon.

However, Fares would have remained a marginal political figure - one of many returning emigrants who bought their way into parliament - had it not been for an even more powerful political asset that ingratiated him to Damascus.

Friends in Washington

As his business empire expanded after the mid-1970s, Fares came into close contact with high-ranking politicians, mostly Republicans, in the United States. In the late 1970s, for example, he purchased a majority stake in the construction company of Joe M. Rodgers, a Nashville-based businessman who became finance chairman of the Republican Party during the 1980 election campaign and was credited with raising over $100 million from 1979-1984.[2] In the late 1980s, as the Reagan and Bush administrations sought accommodation with Syria, Fares acted as an intermediary.

His relationship with high-ranking politicians deepened in the 1990s. When former President George Bush, whose administration tacitly backed Syria's seizure of east Beirut, visited the Persian Gulf several years ago, he flew on Fares' private jet. In 1996, Fares was a guest at the former president's Gridiron dinner in Washington DC. In the summer of 1999, former Secretary of State James Baker and Edward Djerejian, a former ambassador to Syria, visited Lebanon and stayed at Fares' home. William White, formerly the number two official at the Energy Department during the Clinton administration, was appointed CEO of the Wedge Group by Fares in 1997. White is now running for mayor of Houston, a position that could be a stepping stone to running for governor.

The most visible link between Fares and the American political establishment is the Issam M. Fares lecture series at Tufts University, which he endowed in 1994. A succession of high profile American political figures have been paid handsomely to speak at the annual event, which Fares himself presides over. Bush Sr. gave the inaugural lecture in October 1994 and made it a point to praise Fares as an "exceptional man and worldwide benefactor" who "has been doing much for his homeland" and hail Syria's role in the peace process as "important to American interests." In October 1996, Baker spoke at Tufts, telling the audience that "had it not been for Syria's approval and the positive position adopted by President Assad, the peace process would not have been launched." Other prominent former US officials paid to speak include former President Bill Clinton, former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, and Colin Powell.

Powell's appearance as keynote speaker just days before the US presidential election in November 2000 would later ignite controversy. Powell, who reportedly received twice his usual speaking fee to give the speech, defended his decision after The Jerusalem Post broke the story in January 2001,[3] insisting that he "was a private citizen at the time."[4] But the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the first Bush administration had campaigned for George W. Bush and was widely assumed to be his top choice for secretary of state at the time that he gave the speech. "Anytime somebody is taking speaking fees or receiving money that comes from a source that they are going to be involved with in their official function, it is a concern," said Larry Noble, executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics, a non-partisan watchdog group.[5]

In response to allegations of influence buying, Fares boasted that "the Zionist lobby in the US and its agents in the region felt displeasure and concern that certain Lebanese and Arab personalities have a friendly relationship with some senior officials of the new American administration."[6] Astonishingly, Powell made it a point to defend Fares, telling CNN, "It's really quite sad that this gentleman's name would be sullied in [newspaper] articles."[7]

Nijad Fares

Since federal laws prohibit non-resident foreigners from directly making political contributions, Fares has relied primarily on his son, Nijad, a businessman in Houston with non-citizen permanent resident status in the US (which entitles him to make campaign donations), to buy influence in the United States. Nijad first made headlines in the United States just as the controversy over Powell's speaking fee was dying down, when it emerged that Bush's Presidential Inaugural Committee had listed a $100,000 donation from Issam Fares (the maximum amount accepted by the committee) and another $100,000 donation from Nijad Fares' Houston-based company, Link Group LLC, a manufacturer of components for water storage tanks.[8] The appearance of Issam Fares' name caused an uproar. "This is someone with a very clear political objective looking ahead at a new administration and trying to make a friendly gesture," said Larry Makinson, a senior fellow with the Center for Responsive Politics, adding that "it could affect America's foreign policy."[9]

Bush's inaugural committee subsequently declared that the donation listed as coming from Issam Fares had, in fact, come from Nijad, but The Washington Post nevertheless ran an editorial calling the donations an attempt to buy influence: "The rules may be porous enough that the son could make campaign contributions even if the father could not. But the principle is the same. A senior official of a foreign government with a major interest in U.S. foreign policy makes or has made in his name a contribution sufficiently large that there is no way it can be forgotten - and indeed, that has to be part of the intent. He sinks a hook in the people about to run the U.S. government."[10]

Nijad, for his part, gave an unlikely explanation for his decision to list the contribution in his father's name. "This was Nijad's effort to have his father recognized," said his spokesman. "He was just trying to get his dad's name mentioned in the program."[11]

Nijad has a long history of contributing to American politicians, mostly Republicans, and has made no secret of his intentions to influence American Middle East policy. In a 1996 op-ed piece, he wrote that "even modest contributions help ensure that Members of Congress and their staffs take phone calls and are more responsive to requests. Furthermore, the contributor must make explicit an interest in Middle East-related issues."[12] During the last seven years, Nijad Fares and his wife, Zeina, have made over $100,000 in individual campaign contributions to American politicians.

The leading recipient of Fares' largesse was Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham, a former senator who lost his bid for reelection in 2000. Abraham received $17,000 for his electoral campaign and political action committee from Nijad and his wife, Zeina. Moreover, the American Task Force for Lebanon, of which Nijad is a leading member and former president, donated $7,500.[13] Abraham repaid the favor during his stint in the Senate. In 2000, he helped persuade the White House and fellow congressmen to double Lebanon's annual aid package.

Others in congress involved in the appropriation of aid to Lebanon also received handsome contributions. The chairman of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Foreign Operations, Mitch McConnell (R-KY), received $2,000 from Nijad and his wife. McConnell was described by one magazine as deserving a "major part of the credit" for Lebanon's FY 2001 aid increase.[14] Likewise, the chairman of the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Foreign Operations, Jim Kolbe (R-AZ), received $2,000. Rep. Joe Knollenberg (R-MI), a major sponsor of aid of Lebanon, received $7,000 from Fares and his wife. Another major recipient was Rep Marcy Kaptur (D-OH), the lead Democrat on the House Agricultural Appropriations subcommittee. In 2001, Kaptur was the chief architect of a US government aid package, consisting of $8 million and 3,250 metric tons of soybean oil, to Hezbollah-controlled south Lebanon. According to federal records, Kaptur received $6,000 from Nijad and Zeina Fares during the last three election cycles.

In addition to making sizeable (and in most cases the maximum allowable) individual contributions to these politicians, it appears that Nijad may have persuaded friends and colleagues in the Houston area to make additional contributions. During the last three election cycles, for example, Kaptur received $40,800 from other donors in Houston, mostly Lebanese-Americans - an unusually large source of out-of-state contributions for a congressional candidate. She did not receive any contributions from Lebanese-Americans in Michigan, where they comprise over 3% of the population - this was clearly a Houston-based initiative, not a broader Lebanese-American initiative.

Ambitions in Lebanon

Fares' impressive network of friends and supporters in the United States made him a valuable asset for the Syrians, giving a boost to his political ambitions. In October 2000, he was appointed deputy prime minister, a ceremonial position previously occupied by Murr, whose excesses had so alienated the public that he was forced to leave the cabinet. Although Murr's son, Elias, was allowed to replace his father as interior minister, the appointment of Fares as deputy premier was seen as something of a demotion for the Murr family.

While Fares' new position brought him into the cabinet for the first time, it carried no formal responsibilities and no control over expenditures - the lifeblood of patronage politics in Lebanon. In order to increase his influence and stature and pave the way for the next step in his political ascent (control of a major ministry) Fares would have to skillfully manage his relations with major political players in Lebanon - most notably President Emile Lahoud and his arch-rival, Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri.

Since Fares had previously aligned himself with Karami and Franjieh, his relations with the prime minister were strained from the beginning and he naturally gravitated toward Lahoud. Since most ministers in charge of economic affairs are aligned with Hariri, Fares has become an important economic advisor to the president and usually accompanies him when he travels abroad. Fares has also supported a bid by Saudi Prince Al-Walid bin Talal, who is half Lebanese, to replace Hariri as prime minister. However, his close relationship with Franjieh - health minister in the current cabinet and a presidential aspirant opposed to the extension of Lahoud's term - illustrates that his political alliances, like his investments, are diversified.

While aligning himself squarely with Damascus, Fares has been careful to hedge his bets by building close relationships with Christian religious leaders. Maronite Patriarch Nasrallah Boutros Sfeir regularly meets with Fares and uses one of his private jets when he flies abroad.

Fares has also appealed to Christian sentiments by pressing Damascus to increase the power of his largely ceremonial office. While his predecessor as deputy prime minister was allowed to sign decrees when then-Prime Minister Selim al-Hoss was out of the country, this responsibility is not formally defined under the law - Murr acted as a sort of "vice-prime minister" because of his close relationship with Damascus and Hoss.

Although Fares maintains that he too should exercise this responsibility, Hariri has adamantly refused to allow this. Fares is not even allowed to occupy an office in the Grand Serail, the headquarters of the prime minister and his staff. This drive to expand the official prerogatives of a traditionally Greek Orthodox post has won him some unlikely allies. Gibran Tueni, a Greek Orthodox opposition voice and editor of the daily Al-Nahar, has defended Fares on a number of occasions.[15]

Conclusion

Although Fares has made some impressive inroads into Lebanese politics, he nevertheless remains a second-tier member of the governing elite. His big break might have come earlier this year if he had managed to prevent the White House and both houses of Congress from enacting the Syria Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Restoration Act. Nijad Fares made a valiant effort to do this. He was actively involved in planning public relations visits to the United States by Syrian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Buthaina Shaaban and even organized a gathering of Lebanese-Americans to hear her pleas for support. ATFL organized visits to Damascus by several congressional delegations to hear Syrian President Bashar Assad make his case. In September, Fares himself flew to the United States and met with Bush Sr., but to no avail - the administration of Bush Jr. announced its support for the bill the following month. Although congressmen who received contributions from Fares had initially opposed sanctions legislation following its introduction last year, all but one of them changed their positions as the bill gained steam in Congress. In fact, even ATFL assumed a "neutral" position so as not to appear ineffective in lobbying congress.

Notes

[1] "Lebanese army still deployed at TV station, holding nine employees," Agence France Presse, 15 March 2001.
[2] "Atypical Money-Raiser Delivers for the GOP," The New York Times, 30 September 1984.
[3] See Janine Zacharia, "Powell received large lecture fee from top Lebanese official," The Jerusalem Post, 7 January 2001.
[4] CNN, Inside Politics, 9 January 2001.
[5] The Jerusalem Post, 7 January 2001.
[6] The Daily Star (Beirut), 9 January 2001.
[7] CNN, Inside Politics, 9 January 2001.
[8] "Inaugural donation listing Lebanese government leader questioned," Houston Chronicle, 17 January 2001.
[9] The Wall Street Journal, 16 January 2001.
[10] "Where's the Outrage?" The Washington Post, 19 January 2001.
[11] Houston Chronicle, 17 January 2001.
[12] Detroit News, 16 December 1996.
[13] Roll Call (Washington DC), 18 January 2001.
[14] Few Surprises in Foreign Aid Bill; Lebanon Aid Upped, Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, December 2000.
[15] Al-Nahar (Beirut), 25 January 2001.

© 2003 Middle East Intelligence Bulletin. All rights reserved.

Who will be the Fares Lecture, and pocket that $100,000, this year? Who will be the eager recipient?

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Clinton gave this "Ramadan" speech at the end of his term-
"As America's six-million-member Muslim community grows in numbers and prominence, Americans of every religious tradition are learning more about the origins and meaning of Islam. That on "the Night of Power," the Angel Gabriel appeared to the Prophet Muhammad and revealed to him the first verses of the Koran. That the Koran declares that Ramadan was the month Allah's words were sent down, and so should be spent in fasting." - Bill Clinton

Ex-Krispy Kreme addict Clinton has been on the Saudi pad for donkey's years-good dhimi transport that. After all his Georgetown Foreign Service School fellow alum -who never graduated-is none other than Prince Al Turki, current Saudi Ambassador to the US in our nation's swamp.

As a favor to his college chum, Clinton created the easy visa system so that tens of thousands of Saudi youngsters could come to this great land of opportunity and pursue "higher" education, create "sleeper cells" and export Wahhabism to those Mosques that Osama's relatives built here and around the globe.

Then there's the $10 Million gift by thye Saudi Rioyal family to the University of Arkansas to found the King Khaled Middle East Studies center on the bubbaland campus in Little Rock.

But as Hugh noted, don't matter whether you have Bush or Clinton, they all pony up to the bar and
pick up a few million from some Saudi or Qatar camel race track owner or $100,000 at a crack for a mickey mouse speech at the Syrian acolyte institution in America the Fares Eastern Mediterraean Institute of Love, Beauty and Truth on the campus of Tufts University in Medford, Massachusetts.

So Clinton goes off to Qatar-one of those precious human rights failed states on the Persian, opps-Iranian Gulf-and doubtless picks up a megabuck cache of moolah to fund his habits and suck up to those peace loving Muslim adherants who can't abide by Danish cartoonists sticking it to the original mass murderer of Jews, Mohammed.

Whether it's William Jefferson Klinker, George Herbert Walker whathisface Bush, Condi the incredulous Rice or disappeared Dick Cheney, they are all-what the title of Aldous Huxley's book I read in undergraduate days, oh yes, "Eyeless in Gaza."

"... these totally outrageous cartoons against Islam," (from Bill Clinton).

Why were the bastards who perpetrated 9/11 on us allowed to get as far as they did? Many reasons, but one big one: This buffoon is the "genius" who was U.S. president during most of the formative years of Al-Qaeda. This is the dope who thought he could fix that Islamist terrorist threat against us with a few cruse missiles into Afghanistan that missed their target and allowed the enemies to escape and regroup for revenge attacks. This is the dope who ignored bin Laden's clear declaration of war against the U.S. This is the dope who thought he could fix the Israel-Palestine conflict with hugs between Arafat and Barak. The man is all show and no substance. This i clear with his comments about Islam.

Why should anyone listen to what this man has to say about Islam? (That they will is troubling). He doesn't know it's 1400-year history of perpetual slaughter and Allah-approved mass rape. He doesn't know that Mohammad's own declared method was 'terror' in all its various forms. He doesn't know that Mohammad and his followers killed people who made fun of the prophet, and that the Koran orders Muslims to emulate the prophet's example, just as they are doing with regard to these cartoons. This is the man who played out his juvenile fantasies while the Taliban and al-Qaeda prepared their terrorist attacks while imposing a totalitarian system on the women and children of Afghanistan.

Bill Clinton believes that these cartoons are worse than beatings, death threats, trade sanctions worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and the safety on non-Muslims everywhere. No, he's not worried about the misogyny, terror, and hatred of Mohammad that is depicted in the cartoons. Like his zealous Muslim counterparts, he thinks the real crime is in depicting those things. Surely Clinton will keep in mind that it was Islamists who made the association between Mohammad and bombs? And those most angry and willing to carry out violence due to the cartoons are precisely those who would use or would justify the use of those bombs? What Bill Clinton has done is a major insult to the Scandinavian people, and is an insult to all non-Muslims all over the world who believe in freedom of expression. Clinton should be reprimanded heavily in the press for these hopelessly foolish, naive comments. How about some Clinton cartoons?

"So now what are we going to do? ... Replace the anti-Semitic prejudice with anti-Islamic prejudice?" he said at an economic conference in the Qatari capital of Doha.

"In Europe, most of the struggles we've had in the past 50 years have been to fight prejudices against Jews, to fight against anti-Semitism," he said.

Yeah, that's great! I take it were those evil Orthodox Rabbis who flew those airliners into the WTC. Not to mention the other terrorist atrocities they are committing all the time. No wonder the world doesn't like them.

And that idiot ought to get a history book or better: read the one he's got. Antisemitism is not fifty, but roughly fivethousand years old.

I'm having difficulty working out in my head which of Bill Clinton's acts is more disgusting: the blow-job in the Oval Office with "I did not have sex with that woman" Monica Lewinsky or this more recent deplorable act of dhimmitude!

Hello everyone, first time poster long time lurker. :) Must we forget that it was old bill that got us involved against the SErbs And For Albanian muslims from pressure from the Islamic world? Even prior to 9-11 the "chechen problem" was that the Russians were "bad" :( very, very, bad! Mistreating the poor oppressed Muslims whose only goal was to set up a trans-caucauses Caliphiate!! Only after 9-11 did people relise that Chechnia was a new front in the Global Jihad. The fact is since we are so dependant on thier oil they can pressure us into siding with any Muslim country against a western or Christian country no matter the circumstances. You say your Muslim minority is choppong off heads and demanding independance so they can live under Sharia LAW?? TOO BAD! give the Muslims what they want or the US will Bomb you! (this is basically what happened in Kosovo, Bosnia and elsewhere in the 90's) I think God that the internet can finally allow people to know the truth about Islam (if they want to know). We should never again be fooled into supporting a Sharia style Gov't against other Christian nations.

Clinton widely read? Only if you count Book-0f-the-Month-Club books. Possibly a biography of John Adams or Benjamin Franklin. - Posted by Hugh

Hugh

How could you forget Walt Whitman's "Leaves of grass"?

I'm having difficulty working out in my head which of Bill Clinton's acts is more disgusting: the blow-job in the Oval Office with "I did not have sex with that woman" Monica Lewinsky or this more recent deplorable act of dhimmitude!

The recent act. The other was his private life, remember, for which the worst he deserved was censure.

I can't believe how many people are shocked and astonished by Bill Clintons comments. Personally I am more amazed by the fact that Bill Clinton forced NATO into an illegal bombing campaign of independant Yugoslovia, on behalf of Muslim extremists and yet came out smelling like a rose.

I can't believe that people continue to harp on the Bush administration for its invasion of Iraq without UN approval. However, no one even batted an eyelash when NATO violated its own constitution by attacking a country which was an ally in two world wars. A country no less that was battling terrorism by these people in its own backyard.

Bill Clinton is a hippocrite and is also in need of a history lessen as he seems to be under the impression that Muslims are victims of western culture.

Unfortunately, Bill Clinton is still looked upon with respect by the majority of people in North America, this is a huge problem for all.

(Sigh!) Hi, guys! I just watched the State of the Union Address by President Bush & didn't know whether to scream or cry when I heard the same old declaration of uneducated tolerance emerge from his lips ... about how radical Islam was a "disgrace to a noble religion of peace-loving people". What is the matter with everyone???? This blindness is not just in the far left-wingers -- it seems as though everyone holding a public position wants to kiss up to Islam & avoid any statements that might be "offensive" to Muslims (even if it happens to be the truth). I guess no one believes in educating themselves on matters anymore, do they? I tell people all the time to visit educational websites, read books, & (in this case) even read the Qur'an for themselves to decide if Islam is truly a "peace-loving religion very similar to Christianity". A search engine will take them to websites who offer to send a FREE translation of the Qur'an in English! That's what I did (rather than simply echo the opinions of other people). It just sickens me that our President, former President, public school officials, etc. are either completely ignorant about the truth of Islam or they are afraid of going against popular PC. In the meantime, any mention of Jesus Christ is vehemently prohibited & actively banned by progressive secularists who are foaming at the mouth with absolute hatred for Him. They are so concerned about Muslims feeling "traumatized" by any commentaries pertaining to radical Islam practiced by the terrorists but they sure don't care that those of us who love our Lord watch Him being trashed with nonstop fervor! The public schools who claim they must practice neutrality where religion is concerned are allowing the Islamic Speakers Bureau to come in with training materials to induce our children to practice Islam!

President Clinton has boldly showed that he suffers from frequent lapses in moral (or sane) judgment. However, President Bush -- who publicly proclaimed his devotion to Jesus Christ when he first ran for the Office over 4 years ago -- has sure done an about-face. I expected more from him (& I know he is surrounded by advisors who could have educated him fully about Islam). However, ever since he won his second term, I've noticed a marked absence of any proclamation of his faith, a less outward stance of support for Israel while seeming to seek a friendly relationship with some of Israel's enemies, & public declarations regarding Islam being a "great, noble, & peace-loving" religion. Whether or not I agree with someone's views, I always respect someone who sticks to his convictions. The President has compromised his once immovable stances.

It would be so nice to hear one public figure tell the truth about Islam (or about anything,for that matter) ... or at least not proclaim what a wonderful religion of peace & love Islam is as a religion.

May GOD bless you all here! I really enjoy reading all of your insightful comments here ... please keep it coming!

Sincerely In Our Lord's Service:

KimEllen
Make A Difference Ministries

I can’t really understand why the big anger about what Mr. Clinton has said!!!!!!!

I don’t believe that cartoon is the correct way to discuss big and serious issues like a religions.

Cartoons can be used to draw the attention of people to a public issue here or there but not to express feeling nor to show our understanding of a religion.

Mr. Clinton has made the right thing when he condemned the cartoons as it was a silly way to send a message to Muslims and it will cause hate and anger.

There are other more effective ways to understand a religion and to express our feelings and understanding about what others believe in without hurting their feelings.

Good thinking Mr. Clinton.

After browsing this huge laundry list of comments, I've got only one, probably not last, "word". The Jews, Christians (in Lutheran, Catholic and assorted other flavors) and Muslims all share one common abomination: their doctrinal connection to the vengeful desert god Jehovallah. Ever hear of that name? It carries my meaning well. A pox on the whole mess of beliefs and organizations and cultural garbage attached to the Judaeo-Christian qua Islamic traditions. The mess being made all over Europe's floor is the doo doo of superstition and fear of competing cults. Christ, Mohammed, Luther, what's the difference when it comes to cultish "worship"? For that matter, the entire human race seems prone to the problem, because even Hindus and Buddhists, so-called, revert to murderous behavior in the name of the standard peasant stock expressions of their "belief systems".

But what does our actual president have to say about all of this?

White House statement: "We find them offensive, and we certainly understand why Muslims would find these images offensive."

State Department statement: "Anti-Muslim images are as unacceptable as anti-Semitic images, as anti-Christian images, or any other religious belief."

Yeah, real profiles in courage there. Good thing our actual president is defending freedom of speech and of the press and not siding with the Islamofascists in denouncing the cartoons or equating them with past European and current Arab anti-Semitism.

Oh, wait. Never mind.