Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald again explains why short-sighted, suicidal foreign aid policies must stop:
Now -- as the world is still adjusting to the reality of an openly terrorist “Palestinian” state – is a perfect time for the United States and Europe to end, permanently, the jizyah. “Palestinian" territories, and that other world center of antisemitism and anti-Americanism, Egypt, should be first. Followed by Pakistan and Jordan, which should receive no more military aid because they are now going to be judged by the hostility of their peoples, and not by the reassurances or smiles of government figures. Westerners must stop swallowing that worthless "we love America, it's just Bush/your government/your Congress we hate" line that is the kind of thing brought to our attention in highly tendentious and sanitized opinion polls, the ones "conducted by Zogby International" in consultation with Shibley Telhami, in which no one seems to have the bright idea of asking such questions as these:"Do you think Muhammad is uswa hasana, and if he is, what would Muhammad do today about the Infidels?
"Does Israel have a right to exist as a Jewish state forever, or just for a short while?"
"Do Christians and other non-Muslims (Jews, Hindus, Buddhists) have the right to live and be treated with full legal equality -- buying land, voting, running for office, opening churches wherever they wish? Do they have the right to live as equals in Muslim-run countries, as Muslims now do in Infidel lands?
"Why not"?
But that's not what anyone -- least of all Zogby International and Shibley Telhami -- want to find out, or want those who pay for their results in the American government to find out.
No -- that's the kind of thing American policymakers don't need to, don't want to -- know about. It would disturb. It would worry. It would upset an applecart or two.But in fact one thing would do more to help, in the end, our relations, and that of Infidel nations, with Muslims in the Muslim-ruled lands, and within the Infidel lands themselves: an end to the Jizyah everywhere. Over the past few decades, the Infidels have gradually become accustomed to paying large sums of money, and even giving large amounts of military equipment, to Egypt, to the "Palestinians," to Pakistan. That love-affair between the American and Pakistani military that went on for decades should now be completely over. It is time, if not to ask for the ring back, and least to stop sending more jewelry, not all of it costume, and some of it quite costly, to those meretricious Pakistanis.
Some say that this must not be done, for Pakistan is too "critical to the war on terror." Is that so? For god's sake, look at the pitiful results of its sporadic help. There was a little more when Daniel Pearl died, but that was because of the need to appease the enraged Americans. After that, nothing or almost nothing. It is by now become abundantly clear that the men of Al Qaeda are first in the hearts of their Pakistani fellow-Muslims, their true "country" men.
And Jordan. The Deerfield-educated king is even less "representative" of the real Jordan than was his father. And he is certainly as little representative as, say, Ahmed Chalabi or Kanan Kamiya, who were so influential, turned out to be of the real Iraq. The Americans keep fooling themselves, keep taking the very great exceptions for the very great rule. Time to grow up.
Egypt? Like Arafat's PLO (renamed, of course), the Egyptian government battens on foreign aid, and that foreign aid, corruptly diverted, makes the people even more furious than before, and more and more open to the siren-song of the Muslim Brotherhood (and its "Palestinian" branch Hamas).
Stop the Jizyah. Stop payments now, without any more discussion, any disgusting hints of "we'll have to see if we can work with them" or, still worse, "aid is a lever, and we need that lever even more now" or some other stupidity.
We, the Infidel taxpayers who pay that Jizyah, can't take the stupidity anymore. And it is not merely a question of money. It is a question of false policies, based on false hopes, based on laziness and willful ignorance. We don't like that. It makes us mad.
No taxation without representation.
No jizyah without our representation. And we don't want it. We, the taxpayers, are not prepared to pay it. We are not part of the policymakers who have failed because of their own ignorance and want of imagination and sometimes, because they are on the Arab take. We don't want to pay that jizyah with -- or without -- representation. They should learn that in official Washington, before a great many of them, of all sorts and conditions of views, are thrown out.
And it is time to throw them out.
"Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute." Amen to that.
It's time to take care of our own.
OT, watch this trailer about "Looking for Comedy in the Muslim World", looks very funny.
http://wip.warnerbros.com/lookingforcomedy/trailerplay.html?id=lookingforcomedy&type=windows&speed=300000
Help Katrina victims, not those in Pakistan. The Saudis can fund maddresses, so they can also buy mattresses. Let oil rich countries pay for social services in oil poor countries.
Not one penny to Hamas.
Westerners must stop swallowing that worthless "we love America, it's just Bush/your government/your Congress we hate"
Millions of Westerners (including millions of Americans) also say "we love America, it's just Bush/our [Bush-supporting Republican-majority] government/our Congress we hate"
You are so wrong.
As that eminent globo-socialist and FoxNews commentator Juan Williams observed, Do we really want to do this? These people have to live somehow, and do we really want them to receive their relief from Iran or Saudi Arabia? I don't think so.
No, Juan, you don't think at all.
Here's an idea: How about these Bedouins posing as "Palestinians" or whatever get a frikkin' job. Would a day's work kill them? And, if yes, would that be a bad thing?
OT but important,
Dawa in Santa Bawbawa:
http://www.ucsbdailynexus.com/news/2006/10765.html
I actuallly posted this over on Jihad watch, but it fits here just fine, too:
Our jizya in the form of aid MUST END NOW!!! It is obvious to all us readers of JW/DW, but not to our government officials who cannot or will not take the time to learn about Islam. The victory by Hamas gives everyone the perfect opportunity to write to your congressmen and women to tell them to stay true to not funding ANY terrorist organization. Tell them to immediately move to end ALL funds to "Palestine" and that you DO NOT support your tax dollars going to Hamas. I've just done so. Start with Palestine and maybe, just maybe, We, the People can end our entire jizya to the ummah.
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml
http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresident/
I remember a rant by Dennis Miller years ago on his HBO show condeming all the problems eminating from the Middle East, then he just broke off and said,"I'm so f*%$ing tired of that part of the world". My sentiments exactly, Dennis. I wish more entertainers "got it" because that's all the American public seem to want to listen to. Another dose of Bradgelina, anyone?
Not only is Islam compatible with democracy, and not only will it likely succeed - given the chance - in countries such as Iraq, but based on Islam’s heritage it will probably thrive, Aslan said. More than any other religion, he said, Islam advocates key tenets of democracy, like egalitarianism.
Yeah, that's why the inventor of this worthless piece of crap --- the awful Mohammed --- named itself Submission.
Right, quit spending my money on muslims, unless
it is to build more weapons to hurl at them.
They've clearly identified themselves as our
enemy, lets take the hint already!
We don´t more jizya. And if they want, we want taxes for the muslim, the opposite dhimitude.
I contacted my congressman's local office about this yesterday.
An aide said they get a lot of calls beefing about foreign aid to Isreal, too. And he also noted that Eygpt is our number two benefactor.
I told him that I could live with providing aid to Isreal, but now that Hamas will be gaining control of Palestine, any American tax dollars going to those goons will be simply unconscionable (not that all of that money we sent to Suha, er, the PA wasn't). He agreed.
When I mentioned Hamas' intention to incorporate Sharia law into their governance plans (and explained some of its finer aspects, like stoning and amputations) his interest piqued. And when I mentioned some of the Friday after go to meetin' apes and pigs programs financed with our tax dollars through the PA, he really became interested.
I'm awaiting the congressman's response, and am hopeful.
And I saw Juan Williams' performance yesterday, too. Frankly, Juan, I don't give a damn.
Stop the Jizyah. Stop payments now, without any more discussion, any disgusting hints of "we'll have to see if we can work with them" or, still worse, "aid is a lever, and we need that lever even more now" or some other stupidity.
--posted above
Although I agree with Hugh that infidel taxpayers shouldnt be funding Dar al Islam, I think his position that funding should be cut off immediately is wrong. A better idea would be what is being done with the United Nations: Make funding completely and unequivically contingent on legislative reforms that go against Sharia. So, for example, Egypt and Jordan and Pakistan would get three years to grant non-Muslims equal rights through enforcable legislation. If they really want the money--and considering there backwards economies they probably will--than they'll comply. If they dont FULLY comply, they will be cut off. This would also have the effect of showing the world whether Islam is peaceful and tolerant. If their governments try to force the reforms on the population, then we would get some extra needed turmoil in Dar al Islam. Thus its a win win situation, because there will either be legislative change or not, and, if not, they get no money, and infidels can use the extra money to build some new hospitals
Azlan is just a mini-me Tariq Ramadan. I love how these Mohamedan scholars refer to the 'wonderful' past administration of the Caliphate - so democratic, so pluralistic. Where do they make this stuff up? and worse, why do Americans accept it as fact when it is myth. It's so rich, so bs. Andrew Bostom's Legacy of Jihad put that whole bunch of bull out to pasture. Looks like Cowchip Azlan is working those naive infidels for all its worth.
'I contacted my congressman's local office about this yesterday.
An aide said they get a lot of calls beefing about foreign aid to Isreal, too. And he also noted that Eygpt is our number two benefactor.'
Posted by: PRCS at January 28, 2006 04:46 PM
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I can't understand why people are so tied up in a wad about the support the US sends Isreal. Maybe someone can enlighten me. It seems to me that we need one ally in the middle east that doesn't practice taquiyya as an every day way of life. Although with the way so much is left out of the news, I shouldn't be surprised by the anti-Israel bias. Here are couple of examples to my local paper in the letters to the editor section (and yes, it is a large college town)from people that think they are enlightened.
The first one:
"...There are Islamic radicals. There are radicals in every religion. But the statement that the Quran "demands" that "Muslims initiate violent bloodletting among their "neighbors" is simply false. Like most holy books, the Quran encourages charity, forgiveness, and humility.
A final quote from verse 256 of "The Cow":"There is no compulsion in religion."
I'm sure this dhimmi is not even aware of her dhimmi status or that the word even exists as well as how all those feel good things in the quran only applies to muslims. But I bet she feels proud she is so 'enlightened' about Islam. Sounds like she has been talking to those nice 'moderate' muslims that are as elusive as a UFO when it comes to ratting out those pesky radicals.
The second one:
This next guy is responding to Charles Krauthammer's Jan. 6 article titled 'Who Will Finish Sharon's Mission?'
(http://www.townhall.com/opinion/column/charleskrauthammer/2006/01/06/181231.html):
"...From the words Krauthammer chooses, he cannot believe that Palestinians have the same rights as other human beings. Their rights are subordinate to Israel's security.
To Krauthammer, Isreal's brutal occupation, and it's theft of palestinian land and water resources, are merely "untenable," "too costly" (to the Israelis), and "futile." Apparently, stealing is neither immoral nor illegal."
Very passionate, but so misinformed.
This guy goes on about the terror campaign Israel is waging against innocent Palestinian women and children...yada,yada,yada.
I am so glad my husband directed me to JW/DW, (although the house is a tad bit dirtier now!)because the resources provided by Robert, Hugh and the myriad of posters make it so much easier to zip off a reply to this type of misinformation. It certainly has opened up my eyes.
Tell the jizya giver-in-chief what you think of bribing terrorists to be nice:
president@whitehouse.gov
Since we cannot allow our taxes to be used to come back to kill us, no money should have ever been sent as "aid" to sworn terrorists, larval terrorists, crypto-terrorists, or anyone else who believes in the Koranic dogma of destroy the infidels.
It is more than mere fiscal suicide.
Let the Saudis fund their own co-lunatics.
Our attempts to 'moderate' them with money has clearly resulted in yet another blowback effect.
The democratically-elected maniacs of Hamas, the Egyptian Brotherhood, the Shi'ite Shari'ah state in Iraq, et al.
Stop throwing cash and start throwing warnings of doom.
When they went after Salmon Rushdie, I did nothing, for I was not Salmon Rushdie.
Now they are going for the cartoonists, and I am not a cartoonist.
Now that Shi'a Iran and Syrian friends have won permission to use The Road Map to "Pali all live and expanded rocket firing range" after Iranian-Hamas Party turned on the light of democracy to the Pali-Israel election of capitulations.
I do believe this may get a little crowded with Iran re-affirming its Islam War on US-Israel and then everyone finding USA sponsoring everyones freedom of democratic hate, from old Axis Powers of WWII, Hamas-Syria-Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood of the Democratic Hate Party of Islam to advocates of Academic social-Marxism.
I believe this is called rule by US chaos or just crazy.
It is yet another democratic hate victory and capitulation in Islam's unfinished 1400 year declared War of Hate, rape, rob, murder, terrorism with The World of Israel & U.S friends.
The Question is:
With all "Islam's" 1400 year success story, just "When" or "What year", do we finally discover the Road Map of Islam-Arab-Muslims, with their 7th century Terrorist manifesto, and that they are really very serious about finishing a War to re-conquer Israel on the edge of the Sword of Islam, and put US logically on the next to do list along with the rest of the world that hasn't rolled over and found their prayer rug pointed to Mecca?
From a Hamas spokesman:
“The European people came to me in the last month and they said within six months they are going to do their best to change the attitudes of their administration, because they do not accept Hamas is a terrorist organisation..."
Dying to give away the Jizya!
Peanut Carter is going to have sleepless nights: How can he serve his Arab masters if he cannot guarantee supply?
Revolting! Give us anything but reality...
Ultra leftist Europe is going to support terrori in a month, well not to worry send in the Conservatives to the rescue, oh wait a minute Europe already has conservative leadership!
Europe certainly is cruising for a bruising, so no wonder Armenia is seeking ties with Israel rather then the EU, it simply realises that while Israel is not losing it's principles or looking for someone to surrender to the EU is doing both.
Jizya is the epitomy of "pearls before swine".
Background on the Danish situation
Insofar as the government is concerned, Jyllands-Posten is off the hook, at least for now.
However, the situation could change if the conservative-liberal government is pressured by its allies in the Danish Industry to soften its stance on free expression.
The notion of freedom of expression enjoys wide popular support, but the legal framework for constitutional protection is very weak.
We have a Basic Law (Danmarks riges grundlov) codifying the right to freedom of expression
(S.77).
However, the free expression guarantee under our Basic Law is
generally understood to prohibit only prior restraints and reinstatement of a censorship regime on publications. It is therefore generally agreed that the Basic Law affords no protection against Parliament (Folketinget) should it desire to impose criminal sanction for ideas inimical to all religions or any particular religion.
The object of Penal Code S.135 is the protection of religious sentiments against public insults.
The statute is seldomly invoked, perhaps only by reason of prosecutorial discretion.
The prohibition is broadly worded, and though public consensus militates against proscription of artistic and political expression, there is no binding
judicial or administrative construction clearly seperating the permissible from the impermissible. It seems that artistic expression is protected, but
there is no guidelines according to which artistic merit is to be evaluated.
Tellingly even most defenders of S.140 often explicitly disclaim any intention to forbid artistic expression while simultaneously arguing that the cartoons published in Jyllands-Posten are unprotected because they were published deliberately to cause provocation. After the murder of Theo van Gogh, some politicians called for the abolition of S.140 but even the champions of secularism on the political left opposed the move as untimely, insisting that abolition of the law could lead to stigmatization of minorities. Of course, S.140 isn't concerned with the objective harms resulting from stigmatization of minorities but with insults to religious feelings.
According to the Danish press, Muslim organizations have stated their intention to take Denmark to the European Court of Human Rights for permitting the cartoons to be published.
On several occasions , The European Court of Human Rights has spoken on the subject of blasphemy and freedom of expression coming strongly out in favor of the state power to punish insult to religious feelings. That is bad enough from a free expression standpoint but given the religious diversity of Europe, the refusal of the court to intervene in local matters of religious concern is at least understandable,
However, the court wend further, hinting that the right to freedom of religion (ECHR article 9) might in some instances justify or perhaps even oblig ate the state to proscribe expression hostile toward religion.
APF: As that eminent globo-socialist and FoxNews commentator Juan Williams observed, Do we really want to do this? These people have to live somehow, and do we really want them to receive their relief from Iran or Saudi Arabia? I don't think so.
I was pissed that that was virtually the last word, since Krauthammer had only 15 seconds after that and didn't get a chance to rebut it.
Juan Williams is Fox News & NPR's resident Dhimmi. During the Intifada, he supported the rock throwing at the Israelis, on the grounds that they have tanks. On the India-Pak standoff, he has consistently maintained a pro-Pakistan stance.
Methinks he's simply pro-Islamic. Too bad he can't be deported to Saudi Arabia, or better still, Gaza. He could join the parents of Rachel Corey.
When they went after Salmon Rushdie, I did nothing, for I was not Salmon Rushdie. Now they are going for the cartoonists, and I am not a cartoonist.
Wells said.
We're being fed our death one bite at a time. There is no meal, just a series of entirely disconnected bites. And even that fork and those bites, well, they're not real, either. It's all just a big misunderstanding.
We've been deconstructed. Laying here in a hundred pieces, who are we to fight hordes of fast-breeding scowling intense Moslem activists (aka terrorists, aka Jihadists)?
Hugh:
Please translate the phrase "uswa hasana" with respect to Muhammed - I suspect most of us do not know what this means! I also suspect that, once enlightened, we will be in a better position to ask local resident Muslims very tough, pointed questions.
Call to action (strike while the iron is hot):
I sent this to some of my e-mail lists:
Since the Hamas victory, it is in the news that out govt has been giving foreign aid money ($200+ million) to the Palestinian Authority. I have written, called, & e-mailed my elected representatives urging them to cancel such an abuse of our foreign aid money. I urge all of you to do the same.
I included the addresses and a sample letter.