Racist soup. What's next? Hatemongering crackers? As Europe slides inexorably into Sharia, at least it's amusing.
But in fact, while the soup is traditional, the intent, at least according to this article, is to exclude Muslims. That is silly; but for the French government to close the soup kitchens in response is just as silly, and only fuels backlashes like this in the first place.
From the BBC, with thanks to all who sent this in:
Charity groups with far-right links serving pork soup to homeless people face a crackdown by French officials.Protesters have accused the groups of deliberate discrimination against Jews and Muslims, who do not eat the meat.
Strasbourg officials have banned the hand-outs and police in Paris have closed soup kitchens in an effort to avert racial tension.
The charities have defended offering what they call traditional cuisine to French and European homeless people.
The groups, operating in cities across France and neighbouring Belgium, are not formally linked but are associated with a small far-right organisation called Bloc Identitaire.
'Racial tensions'
Identity Soup, as it has been dubbed by its chefs, was banned in Strasbourg this month after officials ruled it could lead to public disorder.
"Schemes with racial subtexts must be denounced," Strasbourg's mayor Fabienne Keller said.
Although no ban exists in Paris, police have closed soup kitchens in the capital's Montparnasse and Gare de l'Est train stations on administrative grounds.
Volunteers were ordered to re-seal soup containers on the basis they did not have the necessary permits to distribute food.
A leading French anti-racism movement has urged Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy to ban pork soup give-aways throughout the country.Bernadette Hatier, vice president of the Movement Against Racism and for Friendship Between Peoples, said the scheme was a ploy to drum up far-right votes ahead of 2007 presidential elections.
'Nothing illegal'
Many local authorities have said they are powerless to intervene as the groups are not breaking the law.
National Front spokesman Bruno Gollinisch said that people had the right to be charitable to whomever they want.
He described moves to ban the pork soup kitchens as "revelatory of authorities' alienation from the French people".
Dominique Lescure, head of the Nice-based group Soulidarieta, said pork was a traditional part of French cuisine.
But he admitted wanting to serve the soup to what he called his "compatriots and European homeless people".
Will the blue scarf movement be denounced as having a racial subtext?
And now homeless people in France can't eat pork? This is completely immoral.
Europe is experiencing the coldest winter in a generation and non-Muslims are condemned the comfort of a hot meal? Ridiculous. This minority has no right to change "a traditional part of French culture."
This insidious intrusiveness should be noted. The French homeless probably don't have very much interaction with Muslims. I can't see them working the Muslims enclaves for handouts, and I can't see charitable acts by Muslims aimed at anyone other than Muslims. Apparently Muslims weren't even complaining, although who knows what kind of a front Hatiers org is.
This is a good example of the "submission" of Islam. Tendrils of dhimmitude extending everywhere, effecting areas of other peoples lives that do not pertain to Islam and Islam has no right to.
A hungry man doesn't care who hands him food. Like it or not, that's the way it is, and groups of every flavor know it and have capitalized on it everywhere. We may not agree with the guy with the ladle, but feeding the homeless can't really be condemned.
The really ominous aspect of this is that you don't see the usual enraged and bellowing muslims doing the protesting. Their bootlicks are initiating this.
Eurabia.
People, let's be honest: it is obvious that the objective of the pork-soup organization was to serve soup to native French (and/or native Europeans living in France). Otherwise why choose pork-soup when there are hundreds of soup recipies with various other ingredients? One can't and shouldn't deny the obvious.
What we - and everyone in France - should be questioning is the following:
1) Am I not entitled to choose the people I decide to give charity to? Do I have to fill any racial/religious quotas when I give money to someone on the street? French train users from the Cote D'Azur may think that they do (after the last New Year "celebrations" by a few hundred Muslims), but we all know that we do not.
2) If this soup is "racist" (religiously or culturally exclusive would be a better choice of words, but whatever!), then what can we say about the Muslim charities that only give to Muslim populations? What about the zakat?
The law is the same for everyone. Justice for all, please. End the "racist soup" for all I care, but in that case end all the "racist" Islamic charities that collect to support the poor Palestinian children, but that DO NOT collect to support the poor Christian/Animist populations from southern and western Sudan.
Incidentally, if the "racist soup" group was based at Strasbourg then pork soup makes perfect sense, considering that the Alsace province is as German as it is French when it comes to cultural influences. They even have their own version of the very German "choucroute".
So who is being "racist" now, Mr Sarkozy? The French people will be the judge in the upcoming elections.
Cmon guys, everybody here knows this is a slap in the face to muslims.
This is racist for the sake of being racist.
Its not right.
"Racist Soup?"
"...deliberate discrimination against Jews..."
Can you imagine a Jew, any Jew, to cue up for a 'racist soup Kitchen?
And the Mohammedans, are they 'homeless' in France? Are they cueing up for pork-soup and is this 'discrimination?
And if a Frenchman or any other infidel) goes to an Arab country he can't even get pork-chops if he pays for it...
Let's get serious here: if a non-state charity group decides to hand out soup, it's bloody well their right to decide what soup they hand out.
And pork is a traditional and permanently used middle European part of most meals. Furthermore, I find it even more hypocritical of those critizising the "soup scandal" that they themselves undertake no such measures. Where are the French Greens handing out kosher/halal soup to the homeless, huh?
Even more so, let's look at it this way: if they can complain about it, they aren't actually that bad off as it seems, because if you really are hungry, it doesn't matter to you what you eat...
cruzado: "Am I not entitled to choose the people I decide to give charity to? Do I have to fill any racial/religious quotas when I give money to someone on the street? ....If this soup is "racist" (religiously or culturally exclusive would be a better choice of words, but whatever!), then what can we say about the Muslim charities that only give to Muslim populations? What about the zakat?"
Exactly! The solution is for Muslims to get out on the street and start serving non-pork soup to those who don't eat pork. What's to stop them from doubling the amount of charity available to homeless people? Nothing. This just makes them look petty, when they could have demonstrated largesse instead.
Well actually a Muslim is allowed to eat pork if in need, so as such it is not a big deal. Really pork is a very important in France, saussicon being especially delicious.
Last year, or perhaps the year before a supermarket in France in a Muslim dominated area, but still with elderly French (who could not move out) stopped selling alcohol and pork products. Because some of their customers complained...
Now I happen to know that the pork soup was deliberate to exclude Muslims, it is labelled as Pork soup so as not to make a mistake. The fact is that some homeless people were being fed by this, is this wrong no. I at this point decided not to donate to the Pakistan earthquake to show my disgust at the leader of the 7/7 bombers coming from there and being set up in Pakistan. That was my choice as a free person, though of course my governemnt spends my taxes as it wants, like giving moeny to the PA to arm Hama's for example.
Back to the supermarket, isn't that just as wrong, there was still a demand for those products and now elderly people without cars in that area can no longer buy pork products and alcohol, that is a greater wrong in my opinion. The religion of peace gets a free ride yet again, I could accept closing of the soup kictchen if the supermarket was still selling pork and alcohol.
Beef is dangerous due to mad cow disease, poultry because of avian flu... Come on - this leaves us with the option of vegetarian soup only (and carnivores might then complain about discrimination!).
OT, last night a very interesting documentary about the Munich terrorist attack was shown on BBC2 (Eliyahu, you might find it worthwhile - seems a very objective account, without any anti-Israeli bias ... for a change - a nice surprise from BBC!):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/4605414.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/4627388.stm
Thursday nights at la Gare Montparnasse in Paris is becoming quite a surreal place.
Last Thursday, there were 7 police vans and the intelligence services filming the event and all those who attended.
The patriotic soup has now branched out to Nice, Strasbourg, and Charleroi in Belgium. These are all quite separate groups who have decided to set up a pork soup kitchen.
It is unclear what laws (apart from Sharia laws) they are breaking, but the police are finding ways to disrupt this.
These events are regularly updated on www.france-echos.com
"Protesters have accused the groups of deliberate discrimination against Jews and Muslims, who do not eat the meat."
This has NOTHING to do with Jews but everything to do with Muslim agitators for Sharia. If Jews were a concern then any dish containing both beef and cheese would be forbidden. Nor are they banning escargot.
This is just another sick example of the Left's appeasement of Islamic totalitarianism. Let's just hope that the backlash is equally extreme in the next election.
Ok, I'm confused now about this soup.
Is the pig racist? Or, is there an actual racist in the soup and someone hired Arnim Mewes to cook it up? And... it is safe to warm the soup up?
(that's enough soupisms...)
Why is it that the rightwing guys all of a sudden are aquiring a social consciounce and turn against fascim, when the leftwing guys are turning into multikultifascists and aiding the islamofascists that the official-fascists(tm) are fighting?
This is a very interesting soup that life has cooked up lately.
I think it needs a lot more mustard.
Imli
Imli, we live in interesting times...
jordanR writes:-
"Cmon guys, everybody here knows this is a slap in the face to muslims.
This is racist for the sake of being racist.
Its not right."
C'mon JordanR! C'mon guy! Thats a strange thing to say, makes me wonder...hhmmmmm
Anyway, one of the things we learnt a long time ago, and what the liberals don't seem to understand, is that islam and muslims ARE NOT A RACE!! Hence you cannot be a racist for serving pork soup to FRENCH PEOPLE WHO WANT IT!!! Imagine you mean I can't eat soup in my own country! NOW THAT IS NOT RIGHT! Reality check, if muslims don't eat pork then guess what...THEY DON"T HAVE TO EAT IT!!!
Next time you post something as insipid as your last comment make sure that you at least have your facts straight.
C'mon guy, c'mon, c'mon I mean c'mon
The Iranians are accusing us Brits of blowing up 8 people in the Arab populated part of Iran. Isn't that just a laugh. There are many things I could call the UK government, such as foolish, mistaken, too PC, but having the attitude to set off a bomb to kill people for no end, no. If the bomb had killed 8 people while destroying a Nuclear research lab then perhaps I might think it possible, but more likely that the Israeli's or USA were acting.
The UK replied with typical FO understatement, but Brits like me are fed up with this, say it like it is.
The Iranian government has accused us of setting off a bomb in the south-west of Iran, its about as sensible as saying that Iran is only developing nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, what else do you think from a regime run by a man who imagines that he is surrounded by white light when making a speach to the UN. If you think that this accusation is correct then you are mad as the Iranian president.
How refreshing that would be...
It would be a valid objection ONLY if the soup was being distributed under false pretenses, and people were not being told that it does contain pork.
However, as long as the recipients are told that the food contains pork, then there is NO valid complaint. No one is forcing anyone to consume this food, nor is anyone being coerced or lied to.
This is truly alarming.
I don't know what to make of this story at all. Certainly France has its racist far right elements, but are there really all that many Jews lining up for a meal in Strasbourg's soup kitchens that have been turned away hungry because of dietary observance?
French cuisine features plenty of foods that are prohibited by Kashruth (pork, shellfish, horsemeat, rabbit and, also, any cuts of beef from the hind quarter).Halal bans pork, but allows shellfish. Don't know about Halal and horsemeat though.
If this is a private charity that does not receive government funding, are they not entitled to serve a certain client population? Could Muslim charities be accused of being racist if they offer foods that are banned by Kashruth or by various religions that are vegetarian?
Yeah, sure - let 'em starve.
And please, don't bring Jews into this. There are enough shops selling pork in Israel. There is no law against it.
According to this link the police only shut down the soup kitchen AFTER they determined that there was no permit. If they had no permit it would be ok as long as they were not serving pork. That proves the bias.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060124/ap_on_re_eu/france_pork_soup;_ylt=AqDeVb.6NqrjzZDySjiWx45vaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--
This story by Associated Press is more thorough than the BBC story.
cruzado~ I agree with you
Caroline~ They can't start serving non-pork soup because then non-muslims would also line up and they can't give charity to non-muslims! Besides all their charity money needs to go to building more mosques and buying guns.
Daffersd~And yes a muslim is allowed to eat pork if in need. So there really should not be a complaint.
Sebastien~ Shouldn't the intelligence service be filming the violent rioters and people bashing going on all over instead? Burn cars all you want but don't serve soup!
I meant AFTER they determined that there was pork.
Once police determined there was pork in the broth, they ordered the 10-gallon container sealed because the group had no permit.
If there has ever been an example of any Muslim country or institution or organized group providing large-scale charity for non-Muslims -- even as a possible part of an organized Da'wa effort -- I am unaware of it. Of course this pork-soup kitchen is an example of selective giving. It was not a matter of race, but a matter of belief. No one who would eat the soup would be turned away. Not a black African Christian or animist, not a Muslim, from anywhere, who would be willing to eat the soup, which might imply a less fervent belief in the demands of Islam, which from the viewpoint of the donors would be a good thing. And so?
Don't we all make a choice, as we walk down the street, as to which person to give to, and which to ignore? If someone were panhandling, and wore a T-shirt that read "White America Awake!" or for that matter "Black America Awake!" or "Todo por La Raza"" would you be inclined to drop a dollar in that particular basket, or would you rather give to someone else? When you choose to donate to this political party, or that one, are you not choosing on ideological grounds?
What here is the difference? Is it the systematic attempt to exclude believing Muslims? But that is the whole point here -- the group wishes to express solidarity with some of the poor, but not others. Charities that are religion-based -- Catholic Charities, Jewish Charities, Protestant Charities. Are they illegitimate at this point, when many of them deliberately aid others irrespective of religion? Would they be illegitimate if they helped, as they once did, only co-religionists? No? Then what is the difference here?
Were the soup to be handed out only to certain people, and others prevented from getting it though they wanted it, that would be one thing. Here the ideological test is imposed by the would-be recipient himself. He decides whether or not he is willing to take the soup.
Does time and place matter? Would one think otherwise if people were deliberately distributing pork soup on European streets in 1945 or 1946, when Jewish survivors of the camps would certainly be the poorest and most desperate of those needing such food aid? Yes, of course.
Is this distribution of pork soup not exactly the most intelligent way to make a point, and is it more likely to offend, as mean-minded, and not work to arouse people against Islam but instead to arouse sympathy, and for that reason might be considered unwise? Yes.
Are all those Europeans who are worried and offended and desperate to do something about the Muslim presence, even invasion, as they see it, of their coutnries, all gifted with the political equivalent of perfect pitch, so that they always choose exactly the right method, are led by the cleverest leaders, and can always and everywhere be applauded for the way they go about things? No. Do some of them make mistakes, and choose the wrong leaders, because those who should be articulating the problem and leading them are failing to do so? Yes.
But that No, and that Yes, are a different matter.
What's that? A Muslim homeless? How can that be?
Is there someone witholding the jizya?
JIHAAAAAD!
I think it was some groups linked to the FN who were giving this soup. And they were stopped from giving soup I think about a month ago in Marseille.
It is a stupid stunt, but if people want to give soup to some of the homeless, well let them, I can not see any reason why these people do not have the right to give soup to who they want based on the choice of others to eat or not to eat that soup.
The authorities are proving once more that they are scared of the Muslim reaction, how many extra cars would be burnt for allowing the soup to be donated by the extreme right, perhaps that is the question for the French government, will that surrender result in one less sports centre going up in flames during what promises to be a very long hot summer...
I'm sorry. I had to stop laughing before I could reply. This is the most assinine thing I have heard this week. It almost makes up for having to listen to Ted Kennedy on FoxNews. Only the french could think up something this stupid. I have worked at soup kitchens and I never ever refused anyone who showed up a well cooked hot meal. I didn't care what color, sex, race, creed, etc they were - if they were hungry, they got fed. And, I didn't preach to them while they were eating.
French people take this as a wake up call, that your government is working with the enemy, against the common interests of traditional French life and French culture.
Hugh is right this should be the wake up call to all political parties from Left to right to organize a change in the next elections., and to form a united Ant-Islamic front.
Like Waterdragon I don't know what to make of this.
I have met many Jews who eat bacon, ham, shellfish in certain circumstances. The best jellied eels in the EastEnd were sold by the firm of Tubby Isaacs. I know that kashruth is a lot more complicated than mere avoidance of certain meats while Muslims just have a paranoia about the pig.
Certainly the Jews I have met who keep a strict kitchen (I had a temporary job once washing up in the meat kitchen of a day centre) don't have the horror of non Kosher items that Muslims have. Cuddly toy pigs, rabbits, lobsters etc are not anathema to them.
I have also come across a Sikh feeding station in Africa where only vegetarian food was served so that no-one would feel doubt.
No, I can't say that I am completely supportive of this, my gut reaction is unease, although I will be guided by you Waterdragon and any other Jewish JWers. BTW I was touched by your comment on the other thread, I have been doing longer hours in the office recently, where I can read but not post.
Just about everything in western culture is offesive to muslims, and may cause the racial tensions' feared by France's authorities. What are they going to do, make all non- Muslims wear burka's? Close shops during Islamic prayer time?
Ban the sale of alcohol? (I'd love to see that!! French would go nuts without their booze! You'd think pea soup, a French tradition as well, would also be on the list of 'last straw)
The French government has surrendered to the Muslims.
"People, let's be honest: it is obvious that the objective of the pork-soup organization was to serve soup to native French (and/or native Europeans living in France). Otherwise why choose pork-soup when there are hundreds of soup recipies with various other ingredients? One can't and shouldn't deny the obvious."
What a bunch of rot. Pea soup is a traditional staple among the French. that's what "pork soup" is, it's pea soup with little chunks of ham in it. That's how it's been made for a thousand years.
But, everyone should give up their cultures to accomodate the muslim, right? What about TOLLERANCE? how can you have multi- culturalism with a large amount of TOLLERANCE??
Your arguement is insane.
Don't the police have more important work to do?
Like, say, patrol neighborhoods and trains to make sure that cars don't get torched, girls don't get molested, and citizens don't get attacked by young thugs with knives?
that part of your argument, that is. and it should read "without tolerance".
It's very easy for someone, if they are fussy over what they eat, to simply ask what's in it, and if they don't like it, walk away.
What's next, forcing every store to sell kosher and Halal foods, and not have pork in the same store because it 'offends' someone?
I tell you, this is a slippery slope that must not be walked on. PC has gone far enough. If they don't like free soup, they can go to hell, or back to their own country where they can sit on the front step of their camel crap brick houses and kill people they see violating muhammad law.
This is the future everywhere not just in France.
CelticCoyote~ They were not refusing anyone who showed up.
Mullahmasher~Close shops during islamic prayer. Not allow non-muslims to eat during ramadan. All that is already happening is any country that is majority muslim. It will be pushed everywhere soon enough.
www.france-echos.com this blog tells what the french papers will not talk about.
http://www.france-echos.com/
The fact that pork is SO much cheaper than beef is the whole reason for pea soup anyway.
News of this has spread. I've got over 3,725 morose pigs who refuse to eat. Some fight occassionally, but even that is half-hearted. Other than that, they just lay around and look up with big brown sad doe eyes.
Islam has first vaulted me up into dreams of a rich DoD supply contracts, and has now plunged me into a pork market panic. Anybody interested in Potbellies with pre-installed IV jacks, see me in eBay. Minimum lot is 200 pigs per. 8^(
"No, I can't say that I am completely supportive of this, my gut reaction is unease" From Granny.
I incline towards your opinion, with the cavaet however that the more islam is provoked, the more it will react. I would prefer this to be now than 10 years down the line, when the numbers are less in our favour.
Violence unfortunately is probably the only realistic solution, and taking advantage of the islamic stroppy gene is one of our best hopes.
If there is any realistic peaceful way of resolving this I would like to hear it, but the chances are that world events (such as an Iran/Israel conflict) will provoke a violent reaction by muslims in Europe. In this context that we have no choice but to counter react or die.
Bear in mind also, that the pork soup initiative breaks no law other than Sharia law.
For this reason alone it should be supported. And so should other legal moves which only break sharia law.
There are plenty of things as an individual one can do.
Come back back from a holiday in Spain, bring some chorizo for all your colleagues.
In the supermarket, put bacon in the Halal food section.
Put stickers on paper recylcing bins with the words "Qu'rans and other waste paper"
Leave bits of paper of paper all over the underground with the words "Sick to death of Islam? You are not alone. www.jihadwatch.com"
Hand things to devout muslims with your left hand.
None of these things break any laws other than Sharia law.
You can provoke and play the innocent.
Their anger is the only thing that can save us.
taking advantage of the islamic stroppy gene is one of our best hopes.
With that I can agree.
Sebastien, My French is not so good, but I understood that some of these soup kitchens were linked to the FN, am I incorrect?
I am in two minds about your tactics, yes its funny, yes it gets back at them, and yes it will get them all fired up against the infidel. However I think its a good idea to educate people, deal with that 7/7 propoganda for a start, get others to see the issue. Get a block on Muslim intergration and then try to wean the Muslims in the West off of Islam.
I think this year will see some really serious unrest in France, where the peace loving bruvs will start their fun and games in non-Muslim areas, what do you think? I don't think anything we can do or say is going to stop that from happaning, they sense weakness...
Granny, I sent an email to Interested.
Intergration should have read immigration, they have put a block on the intergration!!! Yes their stroppy gene is a weakness that is for certain
Daffersd
:-)
"Sebastien, My French is not so good, but I understood that some of these soup kitchens were linked to the FN, am I incorrect" Daffersd
I am fairly sure that you are correct, I googled "Odile Bonnivard" of the Paris soup kitchen and found that she had links to the Block Identitaire and the MNR.
I found nothing very specifically wrong with her, any more than you can google "Jean Marie Le Pen" and find anything that matches the extremism of certain Mohammedans.
However, there is enough smoke there (certainly in the Paris soup kitchen), not to make me want to be associated with it.
I guess that makes me more of a keyboard jockey than a hardcore activist, as I would not fling a pigs head into a mosque courtyard, although joyfully approve the rights of others doing likewise.
I will meanwhile, stick to intellecually bludgeoning my friends and family as well as leaving samizadat in public places.
Should I be in London in July, I will join in whatever you guys organize for the Islamlovefest at Ally Pally.
All that is already happening is any country that is majority muslim. It will be pushed everywhere soon enough.
Posted by: Borg
Unless people are woken up. The shooting is going to start somewhere, and unfortunately, because Europe has for the most part disarmed itself, the shooting will be done by Muslims.
It will be a much different story on this side of the pond.
Sebastien-
You forgot one. Put 5 rocks in little clear baggie's and label them "Islamic toilet wipes".
For those concerned about the enviroment- "recycled Islamic toilet wipes".
Mix yellow kool-aid and put in clear bottles. Label it "Islamic stomach-ache medicine"
put some black cumin in pill bottles and make a sign "Islamic pharmacy". (Black Cumin cures all diseases except death) Yes, according to Muhammad, death is a disease.
All pork eating, homeless Frenchmen, repeat after me,
"I want my baby back, baby back, baby back, rribs.
Chill's baby back rribs,
Those pork baby back rribs."
"I'm hungry!!! Get in my belly!!!"
What about the fact that once a kitchen serves pork, the food out of this kitchen is not kosher nor halal nor vegetarian anymore?
By the french logic, any pork should be banned, not to mention the fact that meat is only halal if it also has been killed according to the halal laws, so, serving lamb that is not halal is still as much of a problem as the pork in the soup, so when one follows this logic to it's hillarious end, all meat but halal meat is contraband, and of that selection, obviously beef must be also banned, since the cow is sacred to Hindus.
Now, that leaves most restaurants in Europe to be 'religionist'[0] due to them excluding Hindus, Jews and Muslim, or anyone else who has religiously prescribed food fads.
I'm beginning to think this is all a conspiracy of the breatharians...
Imli
[1] Let's be precise about this ;)
Ps.: I don't think much of trying to score political points via the homeless, one side is stupid for setting the scene up, the other side is stupid for coming to play (If soup is burnt in the forest, can anyone smell it?). I don't know why, but I'm getting the feeling that there is some kind of sinister humour amputation making the general rounds among folks as of late...
All the French need to do is make a similar soup that has imitation bacon bits in it instead of pork.
Call it "mock racist soup" and use it to roundly mock the Moslem morons in their midst.
Their idiocy must be imploded by exaggeration-to-death.
(And, as already noted, a Muslim can eat or do anything normally haram [unclean] if they are under duress... like being homeless, so the entire protest is an un-Islamic intimidate-the-infidels kettle of nonsense.)
I thought a Muslim truly in need was permitted to eat foods that were otherwise haram. Allah would be understanding and forgiving in such a case. So what's the big deal? Pork soup is one way of ensuring that the charity is accessed by those Muslims that are truly in need.
"The groups, operating in cities across France and neighbouring Belgium, are not formally linked but are associated with a small far-right organisation called Bloc Identitaire."
Ah, a "far-right" organization. That explains everything, doesn't it? This "far-right" label is becoming increasingly, unintentionally apt: they seem to be far more right than others.
HOW many times does it have to be said...muslims aren't a race, it's a religion there for the soup can't be racist.
The simple solution is for the muslims to run their own damn soup kitchens and let the rest of them serve pork if that's what they want to do.
It makes no sense what so ever to make people go hungry just because the government wants to be PC.
My friend from Canada says in Candian schools, pork is prohibitted- and only 'halal' meat is to be servied.In some schools there will be two percent Muslims. But all others should forgo pork,for these Muslims's sake!.
Muslims DEMAND a seperate menu in Air-planes,schools,and even the street hotdog vending booths.You will never get a pork Italian sausage,and most of the licence holders are Iranians.Why this treatment is not given to others? Are we afraid of them?In Arab countires, you cannot eat anything outside ,when they are fasting. You will be immediatly arrested and jailed.We are so lenient to them, But they are ungrateful, and they think it is the Dhimmi's duty to serve them.
Leave it to the proponents of the "lesser jihad" (props to Hugh) to turn an act of mercy-- feeding the poor, and throwing in some real protein to boot-- into a bone of racial contention.
I'm reminded again of my whitewashed "World Religions" class in high school, in which the friendly lady in the hijab claimed that if you're starving, and all you've got is pork, or if you're dying of thirst, and all that's available is a can of beer, bon appetit.
Now, with that disclaimer in mind, this food is meant as a last safety net for those who are precisely that desperately hungry. To aim to interrupt the entire program upon the objections of a few people is silly. All they should have to do is keep, say, Ramen noodles and some soy-based source of protein on hand for the minuscule number of people who are both destitute and adhering to religious dietary rules, whether Jewish, Muslim, or Hindu.
One who is that hungry doesn't care if it's not haute cuisine.
On the subject of halal meat in public institutions. I have posted this link before but it bears repeating.
This is what happened when a borough in East London tried to serve halal meat and only halal meat in their schools. And met some very capable and articulate Sikhs.
http://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/content/redbridge/recorder/news/story.aspx?brand=RECOnline&category=newsIlford&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsilford&itemid=WeED10%20Nov%202005%2010%3A43%3A40%3A240
Now I know, though it's too late, having broken up with my French girlfriend.
I was travbelling through the jungle at one point with a Kiwi girl, a vegetarian, and we came to a village on the coast. We stopped in for a meal of fried maggot and endangered sea-turtle soup. The poor girl objected. But, said I in my worldly wisdom, if you don't have endangered sea-turtle soup today there might not be any tomorrow.
Yes, like my old girlfriend, if we don't eat the French today while we have them, they might not be available tomorrow. And so it is with porc soup.Get it while you can.
Better to let homeless, poor people starve than offend muslims, who are technically forbidden to eat food that is not prepared by other muslims. Muslims have their own charities that cater solely to muslims. Nobody is forced to stand in a soup line and eat the proffered fare. This is the epitome of political correctness taken to the level of utter absurdity.
It might be more asinine than when the wife of some celebrity was hosting a Hollywood ultra-left wing shindig and couldn't come up with a suitable PC epithet for black South Africans, so she called them "African-American Africans." She couldn't bring herself to say the word "black." It won't be long before thousands of words are purged from the English language after being deemed "offensive."
The French government announced retaliatory measures against terrorists striking at the heart of French cuisine.
Two cruise baguettes were launched at terrorist kitchens in undisclosed locations. The French government has declined to comment on whether the baguettes were armed with conventional frommage or tactical nuclear pate.
Racist French soup?
Soupe de Jew?
AlphaBrit soup?
I always knew it was the soup...
Yes, it is obvious that this soup is intended to weed out those who refuse to eat pork. It is disingenuous to pretend that it is simply meant to feed poor folk. Is it wrong? No! I think it is hilarious and gets the attention of non-Muslims who may not ordinarily contemplate the non-Muslim/Muslim dynamic.
I wonder if any of them thought of wearing a Porkie Pig shirt or is poor old porkie Pig an ilegal racist symbol in France ?
Is this
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how the French police shut them down lol.
Let them eat cake.
Since the current French regime is so paranoid about not offending the special dietary requirements of immigrants... Maybe the French ought to import some members of the cannibal Kuru tribe from New Guinea and feed them Filet of Jacques Chirac.
Well I think the poor should have truffles the kind that the pigs find in the ground oh oh not good involves pigs finding the truffles.How about giving out the French delicasy croissants oh oh they were first made to commimerate the victory over Muslims in Vienna many centuries ago. How about some wine oh oh forbidden.My my how can the poor be helped comics? oh oh all comics are now suspect with whats rotten in Denmark bullshit by Muslims.Hotcross buns oh oh no crosses allowed. I see only starvation will do then noone will be offended like when the power whent out in the heat of summer and so many of France"s older citizens died many with none to attend their funeral all alone. Damm you France if I want to help the poor I wii DO YOU Prefer Death like a few years ago IT is MY money Hands Off you deathly narcisstic Muslim accomadating self loathing society. There is nothing left to eat.we offend all or someone.
Perhaps a listing of things that will need to be changed in the future is in order.To begin the days of the week are all named after Roman gods how offensive that must be? The name of all the planets in the solar system are gods except the one God named earth. The months of the year are named after gods how offensive.The very existence of western civilization is offensive this being the case let us enjoy our civilization knowing that our enjoyment is offensive as how could the unbeliever have such joy.
Let us see what is the openion of Jesus about this 'Clean'and "Unclean' foods.
Though the Jewish Mosaic law too prohibits Pork in the Old Testamant as unclean,when some Jews complained to Jesus about the behaviour of his disciples,who did not observe the cermonial washing before eating,since they were very hungry. Jesus replied to them thus:
Mark 7:14,&21 of the Holy Bible states:- "Nothing makes a man unclean,by going into him...What comes out of a man's heart-evil thoughts,sexual immorality,theft,murder,adultary,greed,malice,deceit,lewdness,envy,slander,arrogance,and folly.All these evils come from inside,and make a man unclean."
What a wonderful explanation!-This is called Gospel truth,and it fits for these Muslims,who pretend to be 'holy'and 'clean etc by not eating certain things.Just by not eating pork,one cannot become clean person,when as most of the Islamists Kill,loot,cheat and have evil thoughts ,against innocents. In West,we give too much importance to them,which makes them more arrogant and think we are afraid of them.
Are the Muslims laughing as hard as we are? On a more serious side, don't dhimmis know that dhimmitude is only a temporary situation, at best? They're just buying time.
When I first read this one I couldnt stop laughing. I like how they said they were doing it out of sensitivity towards Jews and Muslims. Yeah I am sure the Jews of France are the problem here. What a joke.
Could this be the Balkanization of charities? This line if you are Muslim or Jew, another if Sikh, another for Christians, and yet another for vegetarians. Ridiculous...
Rafia, great quote. It's not what goes in to a person's mouth that makes him unclean, but rather what comes out. perfect.
The French government announced retaliatory measures against terrorists striking at the heart of French cuisine.
Two cruise baguettes were launched at terrorist kitchens in undisclosed locations. The French government has declined to comment on whether the baguettes were armed with conventional frommage or tactical nuclear pate.
Posted by: Chatillon at January 25, 2006 03:11 PM
Chatillon:
Just imagine what will happen if the Muslims ever cotton on to the fact that the iconic French croissant was probably a replication of the crescent-shaped pastries created by Austrian bakers in commemoration of the defeat of the Muslim armies at Vienna.
A Health book quoted the following information about the goodness of Pork:
VITAMINS AND MINERALS CONTAINED IN 3OUNCE
OF PORK;
Iron 3%
Magnesium 3%
Phosperous 11%
Potassium 6%
Zink 7%
Thaimain 25%
Reboflavin 10%
Nicacin 10%
Vitamin B-12 16%
Vitamin B-6 9%
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"Is this distribution of pork soup not exactly the most intelligent way to make a point, and is it more likely to offend, as mean-minded, and not work to arouse people against Islam but instead to arouse sympathy, and for that reason might be considered unwise? Yes."
Hugh is dead on. As much as I hope the Moslems don't get their way, it hands the Moslems an easy excuse to point to their "victimization" idea. This is also a silly battle when you consider there will be so many more important cultural battles ahead for countries "enriched" with this troublesome demographic.
Since I reside in the US, which is not as Moslem "rich" as France, I don't anticipate this problem - yet.
-Kafir