Hamas: Jizya? Sure! Send it along!

Without any condition we are accepting any money

That's good of them. Must try that with my bank.

So if I go out and terrorize some infidels, my government will give me money? I can't wait to hear our government explain how we will finance the Hamas terrorist government to kill infidels? Rice will have to talk fast and be very clever, but I am sure she can sell it.

The solution seems simple to me. If the "Palestinian" people elect Hamas they forfeit financial aide from the US. The "Palestinians" are always so arrogant and defiant because they never to have to pay a price for their defiance.

Whether or not Hamas wins big or little, the jizyah should end to the "Palestinians." For they are merely the shock troops of the Lesser JIhad against Israel, the limited Jihad appropriate for the limited resources, in the days before the OPEC trillions, and before the millions of Muslims madly permitted to settle within the Lands of the Infidels, that is behind enemy lines, changed things, so that now the Greater Jihad against the whole wide world can, and is, being pursued, here and there and everywhere, using whatever instruments come to hand and prove most effective. In Western Europe, military conquest is out of the question. But demographic conquest, accompanied by constant pressure everywhere on the laws, customs, institutions of the local Infidels, is proceeding, and even is accompanied both by terrorist acts (and many such acts have been foiled, but are continually planned), and by vandalism, rape, theft, and crime that is not merely crime, but like the "Lebanese rapes" in Sydney, have a particular ideological edge to them. That 70% of the rapists in Scandinavia are Muslims, who believe that they have a right to do what they will with loose, Infidel women (and how do we know they are "loose" and "asking for it"? Because they dress as Infidel women dress. Q. E. D.), that what Infidels regard as their property rightly belongs to Muslims, the best of peoples (this is religiously-sanctioned taking, for it is right, it is proper, it is according to Muhammad and his glorious example, to loot the property of the Infidels -- these are immmutable principles).

The article above simply shows the incredible situation that has been allowed to develop. We have allowed Muslims -- these Hamas people, for example -- to come to believe that the jizyah from the Infidels will continue. They can preach hatred and warfare against those Infidels, or some subset of them, and nonetheless, will blandly assume that the blind Infidels will continue to contemplate sending them billion s of dollars.

And until now - that absolutely crazy, absurd monstrous assumption, an assumption that calls into question the sanity of Western leaders who keep pumping money not only into these "Palestinians" who are bent on murder and mayhem, and will be with or without those millions and billions. Such jizyah aid has been sent by the Americans, for the past half-century, to Pakistan, the country that created, and then supported, the original Taliban, and which has been conducting non-stop terrorism in Kashmir for decades, and which is a state based entirely on Islam, and whose generals actively encouraged the sinister --really, right out of a James Bond movie -- Dr. A. Q. Khan, in his theft of nuclear secrets from Western laboratories, his feverish and expensive development of nuclear weapons (while the Americans proppped up Pakistan with economic and military aid at the very same time), and then the distribution of those secrets to Iran and North Korea. More than $60 billion has been sent to Egypt over the past few decades, initially based on the idea of supporting the supposed legacy of Saint Sadat, and then in order, supposedly, to ensure that Egypt fulfilled its solemn commitments under the Carter-Brzezinskky disastrous Camp David Accords thrust down the hapless Begin's ("they like me, they really like me" that pitiful soul declared) throat. But Saint Sadat, who wasn't really that much of a saint (try telling that to all the breathless editorialists at The New Duranty Times, or all the grand panjandrums of organized Jewry, who couldn't wait to have their picture taken at those ridiculous photo opportunites -- the whole farcical thing), and Egypt, having pocketed in three tranches the entire Sinai, of course refused to fulfill a single one of its commitments, which had to do, as the trusting, constantly-fooled (over and over and over again) Israeli "negoiators" had asked, with ending hostile propaganda and encouraging, in many little incremental ways, some fairness, some decency, some reasonable attitude toward Israel. Nothing doing -- no book fairs or cinema festivals for Israelis, and Egyptians who wanted to travel to Israel were discouraged (remember that Egyptian girl--what was her name? Hassan? The one who wrote one of those forgetable books about "An Egyptian Girl's Search for Peace" or something. God, what an uninterrupted series of sillinesses we all endure, when Stupidity Is Allowed to Think. And write editorials. And make policies. And run businesses, and get rich, and then once rich, think it possessses a kind of wisdom outside the very limited one of making money. And naturally such people think -- they would, wouldn't they -- that handing over money to Egypt, to Pakistan, to the "Palestinians" -- will lessen their hostility, rather than simply provide them with the ability to buy, as Egypt did in 2004, $7.5 billion in foreign arms, or to divert funds for the nuclear project under A. Q. Khan and keep those madrasa-fires burning, as Pakistan does, or to keep that Lesser Jihad going, because with American and European aid there is plenty of time for all those armed men, in the dozens of separate "security forces" (official), or "armed wings" of this or that far-from-angelic political organization (unofficial), that if they get enough Jizyah, will not have to work day in and day out to survive (like many of those Infidels who are being taxed to pay off those Muslim warriors), but will have all the time in the world to plot, to scheme, to kill.

End that Jizyah.

Not just to Hamas. To the "Palestinians" and their atrocious Jihad. To atrocious malevolent Egypt. To atrocious, semi-malevolent Pakistan.

Let the beneficiaries of the greatest unearned wealth in history, the Arabs of the Gulf, pay for their Muslim brothers -- what they will.

It will use up some of their discretioanry income, otherwise being used to build a mosque with its attendant anti-Infidel hatred, near you.

And it will cause those "poor" Arabs and Muslims to have to go hat-in-hand to the rich Arabs. And that will not lead to gratitude, but rather to all kinds of intra-Islamic resentment. From those who give, and those who think they have not given enough.

Let them stew in their own Dar al-Islam juices. And money. And hatreds.

And in the world of Infidels, start learning about Islam. But not from the local "Mosque Ou8treach" group. Not from that dizzy and nasty ex-nun, Karen Armstrong. Not from that lean, mean, jogger, the recipient of so much Arab largesse, the truly sinisiter John Esposito.

No, let them start with Snouck Hurgronje, Armand Abel, Arthur Jeffery, Antoine Fattal, and a few dozen other real scholars of Islam. And then proceed from there, to the defectors from Islam -- Ibn Warraq, Ali Sina, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Azam Kamguian, and tens or hundreds of thousands of otheres, who have made the leap from being "Muslim-for-identification-puyrposes-only" Muslim, to bravely being not Muslim at all.

These are the only sure sources of knowledge.

There is no way to diminish the hostility that comes straight from Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira. One can only diminish the ability of Muslims -- through weaponry, through growing power and influence and presence in the Dar al-Harb, to do Infidels, by attacking their laws, their customs, their institutions, and trying to throw sand in their faces at every turn so that they cannot come to a real comprehension of Islam -- to do harm, physical and intellectual harm.

The more one behaves in classic dhimmi fashion -- by continuing to pay a Jizyah, which is defined as a payment, by Infidels to Muslims, in order to continue to be treated as "protected people" -- i.e. protected from the Muslims themselves -- the more likely it is that Islam will triumph, and then our descendants will pay for our own timidity and wilful ignorance, and those descendants don't deserve it, and those who left the legacy of Western civilization to us, in trust, for our lives, and the lives of those descendants, also don't deserve this.

We are not yet dhimmis. Far from it. And we need not act as such. And the more Infidels everywhere refuse to act as such, the more they show that they now understand what is contained in Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira, and don't like what they see, and are no longer ogoing to be played for fools, the more likely it is that we will never become those full-fledged dhimmis that would certainly be our collective fate wherever Islam were to triumph.

A very simple lesson.

Without any condition...

Without any condition? Since when can beggars be choosers? Oh, since 615AD, that's when.

ALWAYS ANGRY ALWAYS AGGRIEVED ALWAYS BITTER ALWAYS HATEFUL ALWAYS

... we are accepting any money and we are ready to put these figures in the proper way and in a purified manner.

When I hear a Moslem say "purified" I thinking of boiling blood, burning flesh, and sawing bones.

Any accountants in here? Any of you ever put figures in a proper way? Are these FASB compliant Moslems we've got here?

Allahu Akbar and PBUH.

And (God help us) I could see the US government actually giving them the money, too.

What I think MUST be legislated into law (and to my knowledge has never been) is the outlawing of the US government supplying monetary aid to any national government caught or known in the recent past (say eighteen months) to have either financed, perpetrated, or otherwise actively promoted terrorism and/or financed or actively promoted anti-Americanism on their own soil or elsewhere.

I say we call our representatives in the US government and bring this matter up and demand they attempt legislation to prevent the US government from paying jizya to terrorist governments or potential terrorist governments or governments that are known to aid and abet terrorist networks like HAMAS. In a situation like this the American taxpayer is being held hostage.

Enough's enough.

But, since this (America paying jizya to a terrorist government) is so flagrantly egregious a scenario that perhaps something good could come out of it. (Like aborting the prospect of it from ever happening).

Infidel idiocy knows no bounds. We must bind it by putting an end to jizya for all time as POLICY. I had so much hope for the Bush administration at the start, but the ongoing lack of a real coherent foreign policy towards Islam (that's right towards Islam), disgusts and sickens. Cold War policies were developed gradually over time, however, and I suspect these will too, but without a focus on countering Islam, that policy will always be contradictory, dangerous and destructive for our people.

I loved this line: "[our]descendants don't deserve it, and those who left the legacy of Western civilization to us, in trust, for our lives, and the lives of those descendants, also don't deserve this."

NO AMERICAN MONEY TO HAMAS.

No taxation without representation.

No jizyah without our representation. And we don't want it. We, the taxpayers, are not prepared to pay it. We are not part of the policymakers who have failed through ignorance and want of imagination and sometimes, being on the Arab take. We don't want to pay that jizyah with -- or without -- representation. They should learn that in official Washington, before a great many of them, of all sorts and conditions of views, are thrown out.

Isn't the U.S. government always opposed to paying ransom money to terrorists?

Isn't the Middle East being held hostage to the demands of these despotic groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al-Qaeda, etc.?

If Al-Qaeda ran people for office in "Palestine" would we funnel cash to them, too?

The self-defeating stupidity of it all hurts the head.

Tom Tancredo and Kurt Weldon for President and Vice in 2008!

At least they have two working testicles between them.

The current claque in charge is still trying to find the one they keep claiming they have...

...and sending billions to the PA...

...and dreaming about "roadmaps"...