Muslims Clash Over Oakland Liquor Stores

An update on the Oakland liquor store story. From AP:

They weren't your ordinary thugs. Dressed in bow ties and dark suits, nearly a dozen men carrying metal pipes entered a corner store, shattered refrigerator cases and smashed bottles of liquor, wine and beer, terrifying the clerk but stealing nothing.

The just wanted to leave a message: Stop selling alcohol to fellow Muslims.

No new news in the article but a bit more background:

While black and Middle Eastern Muslims may pray at the same mosques on weekends, their worlds do not tend to overlap beyond that, said Hatem Bazian, professor of Near East and ethnic studies at the University of California at Berkeley.

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Lived there, know those guys. No surprises here.
They do make good bread in their bakery.

As far as the professor from UCB is concerned, He lives, works, eats, sleeps in Berzerkeley. Nuff said...


Hatem "Intifada" Bazian

It took some time for AP to pick this one up. I don't see any new information here. Bazian, who advocated an 'Intifada' against the United States a while back, now appears to be teaching in the Religious Studies departement at Saint Mary's College in nearby Moraga.

One more quick item on Bazian: he appears to be casting himself as an expert on Muslim immigration and Muslim affairs in Northern Califorina, or something like that. In this way he serves as a logical academic 'touchpoint' for interfaith dialogue, understanding, or what have you, for those who desire a truly multicultural curriculum that represents all minorities. I have not read any of his articles, if he has written any, but I did see him appear on a televised panel discussion. He was asked a question, in a very diplomatic way, about whether or not Islamic beliefs might present obstacles for Islamic integration in the United States; the questioner also cited problems in Europe. He dodged the question and talked about how the majority of Muslims in Northern California were African American and how the fastest growth in mosque construction was taking place in Silicon Valley amongst wealthy, imported tech workers.

The subtext: Muslims constitute a diverse, peaceful community overall, just like any other. Nothing to fear from Islam as an ideology. Its just a religion. And, of course, folks are entitled to their political views, even if they are a little extreme.

But, nothing about the ideology of jihad. That goes under the radar in silence, covered up: his 'research' on Muslim demographics in California is the important stuff. That's what we should attend to.

Yes, indeed.

"Bazian: he appears to be casting himself as an expert on Muslim immigration and Muslim affairs in Northern Califorina, or something like that. In this way he serves as a logical academic 'touchpoint' for interfaith dialogue..."
-- from a posting above

Well, of course he is. He's dialing for dollars. And what better way to earn some extra money than by fooling the unwary Infidels, just for a little bit longer. "Interfaith dialogue" that consists of Muslims misleading Infidels about Islam. And to be paid for it, too? Why, that's like the people behind the Boston Mosque "agreeing" to give lectures on Islam to students at Roxbury Community College as part of the "bargain" they struck to receive city-owned land at below-market prices. And they even agreed to donate 2,500 books on Islam to the library of Roxbury Community College.

My, those Boston officials sure drive a hard bargain, don't they? And who at this St. Mary's College hired Hazem Bazian? Did they know about him - are they aware of his previous remarks? Anyone google him? Is this an institution supported by the Catholic Church, by any chance? What does Cardinal Chaput, what does the Catholic press, what does Sandro Magister, what does Cardinal Brandmuller, what does Pope Benedict, think of paying the salary of, providing respectable academic cover for, the likes of Hatem Bazian?

Anyone minding the store? Anyone monitoring this situation?

Why ARE Muslims selling liquor?

For cash to support the ongoing infil-traitor jihad, of course.

The problem is not "selling liquor", but selling it to "fellow Muslims".

They gotta get their jihadi orders straight!

Then all is marzipan and sherbert.

Quoting a professor from that worthless piece of crap U Cal Berkely is a fantastic act. Even its Computer Science Department has collapsed.

ALWAYS ANGRY ALWAYS AGGRIEVED ALWAYS BITTER ALWAYS MOSLEM ALWAYS

You want interfaith dialog? I'll give you interfaith dialog, straight from God to all religions (remember, Islam is not a religion):

[Jews and Christians] conceal Allah’s revelations in the [Bible] Scripture Book, and thus make a miserable profit thereby [selling it to Muhammad], swallow Fire into themselves; Allah will not address them. Grievous will be their doom.
--- posted by God in Koran 2:174

As for those disbelieving infidels [Jews and Christians], I will punish them with a terrible agony in this world and the next. They have no one to help or save them.
--- posted by God in Koran 3:56

As for the Christians, if they had everything on earth, two times over, to give as ransom for the penalty of the Day of Doom, it would never be accepted from them. Theirs will be a painful torment. They will desire to get out of the fire, but they shall not be released from it. They shall have an everlasting torture.
--- posted by God in Koran 5:35

Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends.
--- posted by God in Koran 5:51

Fight those [Jews and Christians] who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day.
--- posted by God in Koran 9:29

SUPREMACIST TRIUMPHALIST PREDOMINANT SUPERIOR ALL KNOWING MOSLEMS

So what's to talk? Should we hold a series of intense, big-hearted hotel seminars to plan the logistics of exactly how Moslems will dispose of all those charred Christian and Jew cadavers?

The only people Muslims hate more than each other, is everybody else...

I used to read about these things happening only in Afghanistan and Europe. Now it's happening in the U.S.

Jihad? Sharia? What are you, some kind of Islamophobe?

Anybody know where Muhammed Ali is buried? I'd like to leash up a few of my Potbelly Pigs and take them to pinch a few loaves on this popular celebrity Moslem's grave.

Float like a butterfly, stink like a cheese.

He is buried somewhere deep within the Nation of Islam --

Can an enthusiastic fellow sneak a few pint-sized pits in there?

One could argue that since they've just made victims out of the liquor stores, and unwittingly made them more sympathetic figures, those retailers will be harder to deal with insofar as they enable addictions and alcohol-fueled crimes in the neighborhood.

As for Muslims selling alcohol, I guess there is some sort of discussion about it in the Muslim community; while surfing the online fatwas at one such site, I happened upon one poster who tried to offset his alcohol sales by praying six times a day. Yeah, that kinda got shot down. ;)

But I'm sure there's also the rationalization that one is not consuming the alcohol himself, which in an oddly libertarian way, leaves other paying customers to self-destruct as they see fit.

Ultimately, you've got to make a living, though, and afford all the various bells and whistles of affluence. Thus, the Almighty Dollar gives forth many convenient revelations whereby it's not ok overall to sell alcohol, but one's own circumstances are... well, "different."

To Alarmed Pig Farmer.


Dude you crack me up, keep em comming!

Mark me down as an alarmed fan of the infidel also known as "alarmed pig farmer". I myself happen to a truffle farmer in need of some smart pigs to locate, not eat, my (buried treasure) truffles. The hapless EUros love to eat this shit and will pay top prices. What's the top Muslim delicacy? Roasted goat head in couscous washed down with Mecca Cola with an apple flavored hookah to suck on for desert.

Can you believe that!

I have heard from sources that muslims sell alcohol in Amrika because they are positively discriminated against. i.e. that they can find no other job and yet they have to live....I mean how is a person to survive doing an honest day's work in Amrika without having a job.

Before you cruxify me, I have not been to Amrika so cannot know if true...but that is what I have been told...perhaps someone can verify?

DennisW says "What's the top Muslim delicacy? Roasted goat head in couscous washed down with Mecca Cola with an apple flavored hookah to suck on for desert".

Brother Dennis, I have tried ( a bit) of goat's head and mecca cola.....delicious.

Not sure about the hookah as I don't smoke...but a lot of women in Islam do.

There are plenty of jobs aside from selling alcohol. By the way, there are apparently 250 alcohol venders in Oakland alone -- 250. And they all belong to a group headed by a Yemeni, and apparently most of them are Yemenis or other Middle Eastern Muslims (look at who owns the liquor stores in the Detroit area). The people who regard these places as little better than drug-dealers have -- well, have a point.

But yes, people need to work -- if somehow they have been allowed into this country in the first place, which is another pressing question. How do they get here? Who gives them the visas in what consulates? Are these Americans, or locals, or locals who happen to have American citizenship and are hellbent on helping other Muslims get to America? This needs investigation. And once here, of course, some of the occupations once open now are no longer quite so open. Anything to do with airports. Anything to do with train stations. Anything to do with school bus drivers. Anything to do with nuclear reactors. Anything to do with ferries. Anything to do with food-supplies for large numbers of people. Anything to do with...
well, you get my point. The more you think about it, and the more examples of diabolical plans for terrorist acts that are uncovered, the more occupations will be seen to be necessarily off-limits to those who might well be permanent security risks, given what their own belief-system tells them to believe, and do. Why should we not take the duty of Jihad as seriously as the canonical and immutable texts, and the Qur'anic commentators and jurisconsults, say it is to be taken?

Of course it is true that many jobs would involve potential security problems. Anything to do with computers, at least above the lowest level of study (and one does not wish to train Muslims if such training could be turned to anti-Infidel use -- and that means almost no training in the sciences, and certainly not in anything remotely connected to nuclear physics, or the kind of chemistry or biology that could lead to work on weaponry). Dr. Germs and Dr. Anthrax, both of whom received their training in the United Kingdom,and Dr. A. Q. Khan, who worked (and stole plans from) Western laboratories, should have their posters up in every Western scientific institute. Not as "Wanted" but as "Don't Make this Mistake Again." And if colleagues prove to be lax, then monitor the situation in their stead. Be a busybody. Do.

So what can Muslims do aside from those alcohol-selling establishments? Ticket-takers. Checking people in as they display their membership cards at B.J.'s or CostCo (but don't forget that "disgruntled" employee, the one who returned with his Qur'an and "Palestinian" flag, and tried to destroy an entire Home Depot, and managed to do $1 million worth of damage). The hysterical readiness to take offense, that is so observable a feature of many Muslmis in the West as in Dar al-Islam, can lead -- beyond the threat of terrorism -- to all sorts of unpleasantness, and desperate unhappiness by other employees that will naturally affect morale and productivity.

In the end, even the occupation of taxi-driver poses a security risk. Just imagine a Muslim taxi-driver, suddenly maddened by things, suddenly wishing to get revenge on the Infidels, who passes a large crowd of parishioners exiting from the local church, milling about after a service, or a wedding, or a funeral. Just imagine a taxi-driver passing by as a synagogue's worshippers leave, and just that day he has tuned in to Al-Jazeera, and head one more rant about the sons of "pigs and monkeys."

Possibly I was wrong. Possibly, in this country,the selling of alcohol really is one of the few jobs that Muslims can get. And liquor stores can so easily be "Cash Only" businesses. And we know why that could be important in the laundering, or transferring for other purposes, of funds. There is evidence for that all over the place. Surely state and local departments of revenue, in collaboration with the FBI and local police, will therefore take careful notice of all "Cash Only" businesses owned by Muslims).

Well, no one should be forced to violate the tenets of his religion -- and selling alcohol surely violates those tenets for it furthers the use of alcohol. So why not suggest that in that case, wouldn't it make more sense for these people to leave, and to find work in the booming oil-fueled economies of the booming oil-fueled Arab Muslim oil states? Or perhaps simply to return to the simpler life, in wonderful Yemen, or wonderful Syria, or the wonderful, well-run paradise of Gaza or the "Palestinian" territories in the West Bank? Wouldn't that be the best solution, all way round?

These guys need to stop this madness. They are trashing liquor stores not only owned by fellow Muslims but that are helping to finance Jackass Jackson's family. His son Ussef owns a Budwiser distributive. They're cutting into his profit.

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