And with good reason, since a Hamas official is on record saying that the organization intends to reinstitute the jizya for dhimmi Christians unfortunate enough to live within its domains. "Liberal Palestinians fear Hamas win," from the Globe and Mail:
RAMALLAH, WEST BANK -- Jasser Jasser watches quietly as the parade of green flows by his pharmacy. What he sees is unnerving for him, perhaps enough to make him want to leave his home and move elsewhere.Walking at the front of the parade is a boy, perhaps in his early teens, carrying the banner of the Hamas movement -- the Islamic militia-cum-political party that opinion polls suggest is poised for a breakthrough in today's Palestinian parliamentary election.Then come the drummers, dozens of them, pounding a martial beat. Some of the drummers look to be no more than five or six years old.
That Hamas was able to hold such a large march in the centre of Ramallah, long considered the most liberal Palestinian city and a stronghold of the secular Fatah movement, in the final hours of the election campaign speaks to the momentum the Islamists have heading into today's vote.
Some opinion polls now have Hamas within just a few percentage points of the long-governing Fatah, sparking speculation that Hamas, on its first foray into national politics, could win a plurality of seats in the next Palestinian Legislative Council.
For Mr. Jasser, a 43-year-old pharmacist, that would be the final straw. Christian and liberal-minded, he said a Hamas win would have him packing his bags.
"I would leave the country," he said simply, moments before the parade of tiny drummers drowned him out.
"We're all afraid. We're worried about the future, that we'll become a second Iran."
It's a common sentiment in Ramallah, especially among the city's dwindling Christian community. Where Christians once made up an about 10 per cent of the population of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, the share is believed to have fallen to less than 2 per cent as many left to escape both the rising Islamicization of society and the constant violence....
One news report (I can't recall which) very clearly noted the other day that a Hamas official had stated his intention to rule Palenstine "in this modern day in accordance with Koranic law".
Couple that with the additional statement about reinstating the jizya and the future becomes pretty clear.
Has anyone else seen or read similar reports?
"Jasser Jasser"?
The tautonym. Plenty of near-tautonyms in Italian where the first name echoes, singularly, the family name: Lippo Lippi, Daddo Daddi, Renzo Renzi, Marino Marini, and many others, including such not-quite tautonymic variants, as the sublimely felinely or at least Felliniesque-named Count Gatto Gatteschi. Not many tautonyms come to mind for the country where they supposedly order these verbal things better -- in France. And far fewer such examples come to mind in the United States, save for the fictional (Humbert Humbert who, even without promotion, will always outrank Major Major). There used to be a retired government official and diplomat (briefly posted to Santo Domingo), one Phelps Phelps, who a few decades ago, after his retirement, would appear regularly in the Letters Column of what was then The New York Times and now is something else. But in the English-speaking world, they seem to have fallen out.
Taxonomic Latin is another source of tautonyms. I shall never forget that imaginary plate of quahogs I shared with Senator Kerry at the little bar-restaurant just across from the dock of the Forbes Ferry (Naushon and the rest of the Elizabeth Islands), a meal in which I reminded him that the taxonomic Latin for "quahog" is Mercenaria mercenaria -- a tautonym that pays tribute to the use of quahog shells as wampum. Or, to be more accurate, I would have so informed him, had such a relaxed meal taken place. But it was not to be, for the Senator, having sized me up as I stood at the entry to the liquor store right next to the restaurant in question, where I happened to be standing to his right as he entered the store, a friendly expression on my face, during which time he mentally weighed me and apparently found me wanting, as Not A Sufficiently Important Person, not a Potential Major Contributor, and when he finally emerged (I had waited, just to see what he'd buy) with a box full of hard liquor and some expensive-looking wine, he still failed to give me the time of day as I smiled yet again, now from his left, while he made right for the ferry.
But as I was saying, before I got distracted (and you, too, Reader, if you have managed to come this far) there do seem to be many more names in Arabic, than in other languages, that are tautonyms.
And, by the way, now that I really do have your undivided attention, Dear Reader (Would you mind if I called you that? No one can hear us, no one will know), have you seen the new movie they've made of "Tristram Shandy," a book that I learned consists almost entirely of digressions? Just how does a writer pull off such things?
And why are there so many tautonymic names in Arabic?
That could be the Mohammedan's new slogan:
"ISLAM... BE AFRAID. BE VERY AFRAID!"
(I wish the influx of Christians to 'Palestine', birthplace of their faith, would now increase... and show their evangelical hope for the region, not this weak hand-wringing abandonment of their core compassionate desire to free all minds from bondage to hate.)
Sadly, it looks as if more Christians will leave the Palestinian-controlled lands. I do not blame them; I would do the same for the safety and future of my family. I do hope that, once out of that hellhole, the displaced Christians will speak openly and often about life under Islam, the violence, the discrimination and the hatred. The Vatican will come to a crossroads too. They will be forced, finally, to confront Islam, as Muslims in the Holy Land once again control many Christian churches and historical sites. Hopefully, men such as Patriarch Michel Sabah will be openly disgraced and dismissed as collaborators with the Muslim leadership. In the meantime, will the last Christian out of the new "Palestine," please turn out the lights in the churches and shrines.
hugh:
How soon we all forget... ...you left out Sirhan Sirhan and Boutros Boutros-Ghali.
Cher Hugh,
Actually the one who inspired your musings is disqualified, for I understand that his full name is Jasser Jasser Three Bags Full.
But in any case, I wonder if Ford Madox Hueffer, who to avoid discomfort in England during the Great War became Ford Madox Ford, would be eligible in this category.
Yrs
Robert
Darn tootin'.
I still think that we should move the mohammadans out of there and replace them all with Christians
from Iraq, who probably don't feel welcome now either. Move all of the muslims to the Sunnistan
triangle. I bet the Christian state alongside Israel would be another dynamo.
I always liked the name of the Afghan resistance- guy-turned-government-guy, Abdullah Abdullah.
I've never been able to find out his middle name, but I have my suspicions...
Why so much sympathy for Islamochristians?
They wanted an end to Israel, they have been helping Islamofascists destroy Israel, they consistently have lied to Westerners about how Palestinians and Israelis treat christians, They removed the Old Testament from their Bibles because it proves the existence of Israel (Since they started the jews are Mongols theory), infact if you go into a chatroom with these "Christians" you will find them lying claiming the christian population of Israel won't exist in a week, and that Israel is commiting genoide you know the standard Muslim Rhetoric.
God simply wanted to punish these "Christians" and so he granted them part of what they wanted, an end to Israeli Occupation, and Palestinian Rule in the cities they live in. You say God has a sense of humour so his punishment for them was give them what they have been campaigning for.
I sincerely do hope I'm wrong about the Palestinian Christians being ultra Dhimmis, unfortunately I do not know of any proof that they aren't.
Anyway if anyone has proof that I'm wrong will you please show me, because I am a Greek Orthadox Christian, and do sincerely hope I'm wrong about my co-religionists.
NicephorusPhocas:
I have been friends for many years with a British woman who served as a nurse in Lebanon in the early 1950s and ended up marrying a Maronite Christian who claimed Palestinian origins. He was an absolute cad to her and their five children so she ended up divorcing him and raising the children on her own -- a very difficult and rare thing in the early 1970s in Canada. Anyway, I did have occasion to meet her ex through other auspices and yes, he was incredibly anti-Semetic. How much of it had to do with being dispossessed, was unclear as it was pretty hard to determine what his claim to Palestinian nationality actually was as he was schooled in Lebanon long before things got "hot" in "Palestine". More to the point, he claimed that his family originally was Jewish and converted, which is as likely the case as not... ...but in so rejecting the old faith for the new, may lie the actual leaven of malice -- the core belief that Jews were responsible for the crucifiction of Christ, which of course is the generally accepted view of events. I have my doubts however, as I don't think the Romans were the most benign of conquerors and they probably didn't like Christ stirring the populace up any more than the "Jewish establishment" would have (possibly less because authority is authority, ain't it), but I find it rather hard to believe that the Romans would have acted entirely at the Jews' urging. As for the account of things, politically, it would be far more useful for the early promoters of Christianity to blame the Jews as they were their monotheistic religious rivals, not the polythiestic Romans.
Shinoliite: I always liked the name of the Afghan resistance- guy-turned-government-guy, Abdullah Abdullah.
Shinoliite
You beat me to it. However, reason for this is that many Afghans go by just a single name, and so duplicate it if and when necessary. I don't believe he has another name.
Hugh
Would a name like Mohammed Mahmud or Hassan Hussein qualify?
"Tristram Shandy," a book that I learned consists almost entirely of digressions? Just how does a writer pull off such things?
For shame! There are English posters present. Using the word "Shandy" and the phrase "pull off" in such close proximity is allowing paronomastic play, as you call it, to get out of hand.
You probably know what you're doing, but in case you or other US posters don't, here is a dictionary of British Slang. Scroll down slowly and carefully - nifty fingerwork is good - and you will be rewarded.
I am not sure why there has been the anti-Christian stance, and especially the stance agains Michael Sabbah. Also, I do not think that one can judge all Maronites based upon one man who behaved like a cad to his family.
I know many Christians who have lived in that region. Many of these people belong to the Maronite rite, but the attend the Latin rite Church (Roman Catholic to most of you). One woman of my acquaintance is a Christian from Jerusalem, where she and her sister were raised. The sister is married to a Lebanese man. They do not hate the Jews at all. In fact the opposite is the case since they lived near Jerusalem.
The Christians that I know, especially those who are Maronite have not removed the Old Testament from the Bible. They acknowledge truthfully the role that the Jews played in the death of Jesus Christ, and they understand that it had to happen in that way. They do not hate the Jews.
I think that we need to question whether we are confusing modern Israel with ancient Israel. The two states are not the same thing. The Jews who live in the modern Israel suffer from many of the problems that beset Israel at the time of Isaiah (lack of justice for all). I am not anti-Israel when I point out that there is a lack of justice. I am being realistic about the situation. The truth is, I continue to blame the Islamic Palestinians for the situation that exists.
If you do your history homework, you will see that the Muslims have always been the aggressors. They are continuing their aggression in a more subtle way, by pretending to be the victims. The victim status seems to excite the left wing loonies who are their supporters, all around the world, including in my own country. Only those who are ignorant of truth continue to believe that these people are in fact victims. However, modern Israel harmed their own cause by adopting the policy of bulldozing the houses of the families of the murder-suicide bombers. (do not get me wrong with this comment, I think that the families needed to be punished in some way because they continue to endorse this evil behaviour). When the Muslims first overran Jerusalem they slaughtered more than one million of the inhabitants. The Crusades happened because assistance was needed to take back the Holy Lands from these desecrators. I think you will find that the Muslims believe that they have a right to own Jerusalem because of their short lived victory over Jerusalem.
The Palestinians do not have an automatic right to ownership of the land. That land was granted to the people who are known as the Chosen People, that is Israel - the Jews, or followers of Judaism.
Christian Palestinians have been better off under Jewish rule, and it is no wonder that they fear a win by Hamas. It seems that a bunch of thugs (the wicked) has been given a mandate to carry on a pogrom like we have never seen in the past.
Watch this space........
Maggie
waterdragon, that is a very interesting experience. Just your friends luck that she ran into a jewish apostate who hates jews. I know about the "Christ Killer" based hatred, I would have hoped though that christians should stop doing it, especially a convert to the faith, who I personally expect more from then to go into the primitive hate the other ideas.
Maggie I know that most Maronites are not anti-semites, however the Maronites who live in Israel live in Israel proper, and are mostly refugees from Lebanon, with a few native Maronites. You have shown me proof that Maronites aren't anti-semitic. However that doesn't prove the mainly Greek Orthadox palestinian Christians aren't Islamochristians.
I pointed out regular actions of the Palestinian "Christians" in my earlier post. I want to be proven wrong. However Michel Sabah (Who should be forcibly recalled to Rome to answer for his many anti-semitic outbursts) does not exactly make that easy.
With these animals, better leaving Holy Land! sadly, the Holy Land will be without christians, but Western Countries didn“t make anything either to avoid it.
I am not fan about Michel Sabbah, you know.!!
Praying for my brothers!!
Well the christian community in Israel is growing, so there is still light in the darkness.
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