"It is a major step forward for the Palestinian people, in their own movement toward independence in this region, and that is that they have control on one side, the Egyptians on the other," said Condoleeza Rice not too long ago. "It's an international border. It will need a third party and obviously nobody wants to have this to be a border that is unsafe, and so I expect that everybody will cooperate as much as they possibly can."
From AP, with thanks to JE:
RAFAH, Gaza Strip - Hundreds of angry Palestinians streamed into Egypt on Wednesday after militants with stolen bulldozers broke through a border wall, and two Egyptian troops were killed and 30 were wounded by gunfire in the rampage.About 3,000 Egyptian Interior Ministry troops who initially had no orders to fire swarmed the border but were forced to withdraw about a half-mile, said security forces Lt. Sameh el-Antablyan, who announced the casualties.
Gen. Essam el-Sheikh said Egyptian forces later began firing back.
The scene was one of utter chaos. An Egyptian armored vehicle was burning and hundreds of Palestinians could be seen crouched in farm fields just inside Egypt.
The militants' rampage through the southern Gaza town of Rafah underscored the growing lawlessness in Palestinian towns, especially in Gaza, and represented the most brazen challenge to the authority of Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas.
This can't be all bad news. Two Muslim groups fighting each other....of course, it is only a matter of hours before reports state that the incident was the total fault of the Israelis. Isn't that part of the "Muslim Rules for Life?" A Muslim is always a victim but can never be the victim of another Muslim.
More evidence of a failed policy. It has been obvious from the get go that neither Rice, nor Rumsfeld nor Cheney nor Bush nor any of their cadre of subalterns has a clue as to what it is we are dealing with.
We (myself included, before the war) thought Saddam represented the worst of possible governments for Iraq. Now it seems, he (or some other like him) is the best we could possibly hope for.
Now we know.
"It is a major step forward for the Palestinian people, in their own movement toward independence in this region, and that is that they have control on one side, the Egyptians on the other"
-- Condoleeza Rice, quoted in the article above
Rice's remarks on the Lesser Jihad against Israel, her complete incomprehension of the endless nature of the relentless war against an Infidel state, using sometimes this tactic, and sometimes that, and her outrageous attempts to dicatte to the terms for the busses that are supposed to take "Palestinians" between Gaza and the "West Bank"), and her own statements about Islam that show, very late in the game, a continued inability to figure out a belief-system (what has she been, after all, but a dutiful student who simply assimilated the lessons that Albright's father taught her, appeared to hold all the right views on Communism, but confronted with something entirel new, this Islam business, was as incapable of refusing to accept the new and soothing cliches as was Bush and others). Her little "triumph" the Middle East consisted entirely of pushing the Israelis around (she can't push, doesn't know how to push, can't conceive of pushing, the Arab Muslims around).
Let's see if jizyah to the "Palestinians" and to Egypt are cut, as they should be. Let's see what is done about Iran. Let's see if the tarbaby in Iraq continues to be clung to, because the amour-propre of the Adminstration cannot take the admission that they were wrong, so that the possible victory -- that of sectarian and ethnic strife in Iraq which will preoccupy, and use up resources, of Musilms (rather than our Infidel resources) will continue to elude in the greatest folly of the age.
And let's see if Rice or Hadley or any of the others take time from their busy schedules to read Majid Khadduri, or anyone else, on what the Treaty of al-Hudaibiyya means, not as something merely to admire, but as the very Model of Muslim Agreements with Infidels, through time and space -- all time, all space.
The thought of Rice being a candidate for national office, and for stupid enthusiasts stupidly supporting her, worries. Not quite as worrisome as Hagel, or any number of Democrats, but worrisome.
Rebecca, ditto!
I was also a staunch supporter and a moral defender of the move to overthrow Saddam, thinking to myself - this is what we were expecting from others in September 1939 and then throught the 60 years of the Stalinist regime.
Let us then fight again for "Yours and our freedom". I did not really believe in the Weapons of MD threatening the West, I even suspected that the true motivation was ...oily as despite appearances "oil non olet"! However, I did not care about the real or imaginary reasons for the war - what mattered to me was - we are going to send another gangster to hell and liberate the oppressed people of Iraq! How naive I was!
And just how did you allow yourself to be so deluded.
I don't think so. Saddam needed to be taken out of the picture-- the status-quo could not be allowed to continue. It should be possible to make sure the next regime will not pursue WMD, it's simple-- if they do they die and are replaced. And this applies to all muslim countries.
That's really all that matters to me.
9-11 and the rest are nothing compared to a(or multiple) WMD attack. And done by proxies???
None of them can be trusted, they're all fricken nuts, they're 500 years behind the rest of the world, and they've got fricken WMD. Bad, bad, bad. The rest of the world should step up and say-NO, that's a no-no, and pen these f-ckers up in a geographical prison.
We SHOULD take their oil- we invested, explored, discovered, and built the infrastructure to extract it. The only reason we gave it back was cause of the Soviets and communists. They were the ones agitating all these 3rd world countries for "independence"( which really was just a scam). Hell-no, they were not ready for independence, look at them all, most worse off since they got their "independence". Now a bunch of spoiled-children countries think they're legitimate, as if they are equals-- hahahaha.
Treating them as legitimite only legitimizes dysfunctional envy, stupidity and insanity.