U.S. Muslims Rally for Hostage

That's nice. I won't be convinced nor impressed until the concept of Jihad is repudiated along with dhimmitude, second-class citizenship for women, and a host of other abhorrant cultural baggage that threatens our freedoms and liberties.

The veneration of Mohammad who kicked all of this off by his personal behavior and is the figure most admire, a man to be emulated is one characteristic I find more than troubling. Certainly the knowledge that Muslims "hate me for my beliefs" is also high on the list of reasons why this rally, for me, is window dressing.
But it's nice to know that they are, at least, making an effort.

CAIR is doing some repair PR to bolster their very shaky image. I'm impressed. I didn't think they were smart enough to realize smoke and mirrors weren't enough any more especially now that Mr. Spencer and others have been blowing the smoke away.

I think it'd be funny beyond belief if the CAIR group got kidnapped.

Bravo to Rebecca and JW for posting this article in the first place. Not exactly the methodology of a "hate site."

I saw Arsalan Iftikhar on Fox News last night, along with Steve Emerson and a friend of Jill Carroll.

They switched to Iftikhar twice. Both times, before he started to speak about the Muslim kidnapping situation, he found it necessary to mention that CAIR was the nation's largest Muslim advocacy group.

Not once, but twice. The first time, of course, he also stated that they represented 7 million Muslims in te U.S.

This appears to be more of a self serving publicity campaign than it does any type of sincere attempt to save Jill Carroll.

CAIR has once again, with their own words and actions, proven what they truly are. Oh, and since the troll this site....Hey Arsalan, get a haircut, and tweeze that eyebrow, you look like a slob.

In another case, a police source said that the bodies of 10 of 35 police recruits abducted Monday had been found and that several more reportedly had been found in a remote desert area to the northeast. Police are "assembling a force" to investigate, said the source in Mashahidah, about 15 miles north of Baghdad...

SO ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT NOT KILLING OTHER MULSUMS IS JUST THAT CRAP!!!!

So CAIR has gone over to Iraq to save a Mulsum woman I don't believe more like they went over to carry a new Bank account # because they now know about the NSA THAKS TO SOME LIB TRATIOR??

Yes it will be more dangours for them because it will have to be Hand to Hand Better watch the wires??

AND DON'T LET THESE ASS-HOLES BACK INTO THE COUNTRY??

REMEMBER AND PASS IT ON READ THE WHOLE THING AND OPEN YOUR MIND!!

http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm

January 16, 1997
Clinton-Approved Iranian Arms Transfers Help Turn Bosnia into Militant Islamic Base

Not Just the Iranians
To understand how the Clinton green light would lead to this degree of Iranian influence, it is necessary to remember that the policy was adopted in the context of extensive and growing radical Islamic activity in Bosnia. That is, the Iranians and other Muslim militants had long been active in Bosnia; the American green light was an important political signal to both Sarajevo and the militants that the United States was unable or unwilling to present an obstacle to those activities -- and, to a certain extent, was willing to cooperate with them. In short, the Clinton Administration's policy of facilitating the delivery of arms to the Bosnian Muslims made it the de facto partner of an ongoing international network of governments and organizations pursuing their own agenda in Bosnia: the promotion of Islamic revolution in Europe. That network involves not only Iran but Brunei, Malaysia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan (a key ally of Iran), and Turkey, together with front groups supposedly pursuing humanitarian and cultural activities.
For example, one such group about which details have come to light is the Third World Relief Agency (TWRA), a Sudan-based, phoney humanitarian organization which has been a major link in the arms pipeline to Bosnia. ["How Bosnia's Muslims Dodged Arms Embargo: Relief Agency Brokered Aid From Nations, Radical Groups," Washington Post, 9/22/96; see also "Saudis Funded Weapons For Bosnia, Official Says: $300 Million Program Had U.S. 'Stealth Cooperation'," Washington Post, 2/2/96] TWRA is believed to be connected with such fixtures of the Islamic terror network as Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman (the convicted mastermind behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing) and Osama Binladen, a wealthy Saudi emigre believed to bankroll numerous militant groups. [WP, 9/22/96] (Sheik Rahman, a native of Egypt, is currently in prison in the United States; letter bombs addressed to targets in Washington and London, apparently from Alexandria, Egypt, are believed connected with his case. Binladen was a resident in Khartoum, Sudan, until last year; he is now believed to be in Afghanistan, "where he has issued statements calling for attacks on U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf." [WP, 9/22/96])
The Clinton Administration's "Hands-On" Help
The extent to which Clinton Administration officials, notably Ambassador Galbraith, knowingly or negligently, cooperated with the efforts of such front organizations is unclear. For example, according to one intelligence account seen by an unnamed U.S. official in the Balkans, "Galbraith 'talked with representatives of Muslim countries on payment for arms that would be sent to Bosnia,' . . . [T]he dollar amount mentioned in the report was $500 million-$800 million. The U.S. official said he also saw subsequent 'operational reports' in 1995 on almost weekly arms shipments of automatic weapons, rocket-propelled grenade launchers, anti-armor rockets and TOW missiles." [TNR, 10/28/96] The United States played a disturbingly "hands-on" role, with, according to the Senate report (page 19), U.S. government personnel twice conducting inspections in Croatia of missiles en route to Bosnia. Further --
"The U.S. decision to send personnel to Croatia to inspect rockets bound for Bosnia is . . . subject to varying interpretations. It may have been simply a straightforward effort to determine whether chemical weapons were being shipped into Bosnia. It was certainly, at least in part, an opportunity to examine a rocket in which the United States had some interest. But it may also have been designed to ensure that Croatia would not shut down the pipeline." (page 21)
The account in The New Republic points sharply to the latter explanation: "Enraged at Iran's apparent attempt to slip super weapons past Croat monitors, the Croatian defense minister nonetheless sent the missiles on to Bosnia 'just as Peter [i.e., Ambassador Galbraith] told us to do,' sources familiar with the episode said." [TNR, 10/28/96] In short, the Clinton Administration's connection with the various players that made up the arms network seems to have been direct and intimate.
The Mujahedin Threat
In addition to (and working closely with) the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and VEVAK intelligence are members of numerous radical groups known for their anti-Western orientation, along with thousands of volunteer mujahedin ("holy warriors") from across the Islamic world. From the beginning of the NATO-led deployment, the Clinton Administration has given insufficient weight to military concerns regarding the mujahedin presence in Bosnia as well as the danger they pose to American personnel. Many of the fighters are concentrated in the so-called "green triangle" (the color green symbolizes Islam) centered on the town of Zenica in the American IFOR/SFOR zone but are also found throughout the country.
The Clinton Administration has been willing to accept Sarajevo's transparently false assurances of the departure of the foreign fighters based on the contention that they have married Bosnian women and have acquired Bosnian citizenship -- and thus are no longer "foreign"! -- or, having left overt military units to join "humanitarian," "cultural," or "charitable" organizations, are no longer "fighters." [See "Foreign Muslims Fighting in Bosnia Considered 'Threat' to U.S. Troops," Washington Post, 11/30/95; "Outsiders Bring Islamic Fervor To the Balkans," New York Times, 9/23/96; "Islamic Alien Fighters Settle in Bosnia," Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 9/23/96; "Mujahideen rule Bosnian villages: Threaten NATO forces, non-Muslims," Washington Times, 9/23/96; and Yossef Bodansky, Offensive in the Balkans (November 1995) and Some Call It Peace (August 1996), International Media Corporation, Ltd., London. Bodansky, an analyst with the House Republican Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, is an internationally recognized authority on Islamic terrorism.] The methods employed to qualify for Bosnian citizenship are themselves problematic: "Islamic militants from Iran and other foreign countries are employing techniques such as forced marriages, kidnappings and the occupation of apartments and houses to remain in Bosnia in violation of the Dayton peace accord and may be a threat to U.S. forces." ["Mujaheddin Remaining in Bosnia: Islamic Militants Strongarm Civilians, Defy Dayton Plan," Washington Post, 7/8/96]
The threat presented by the mujahedin to IFOR (and now, to SFOR) -- contingent only upon the precise time their commanders in Tehran or Sarajevo should choose to activate them -- has been evident from the beginning of the NATO-led deployment. For example, in February 1996 NATO forces raided a terrorist training camp near the town of Fojnica, taking into custody 11 men (8 Bosnian citizens -- two of whom may have been naturalized foreign mujahedin -- and three Iranian instructors); also seized were explosives "built into small children's plastic toys, including a car, a helicopter and an ice cream cone," plus other weapons such as handguns, sniper rifles, grenade launchers, etc. The Sarajevo government denounced the raid, claiming the facility was an "intelligence service school"; the detainees were released promptly after NATO turned them over to local authorities. ["NATO Captures Terrorist Training Camp, Claims Iranian Involvement," Associated Press, 2/16/96; "Bosnian government denies camp was for terrorists," Reuters, 2/16/96; Bodansky Some Call It Peace, page 56] In May 1996, a previously unknown group called "Bosnian Islamic Jihad" (jihad means "holy war") threatened attacks on NATO troops by suicide bombers, similar to those that had recently been launched in Israel. ["Jihad Threat in Bosnia Alarms NATO," The European, 5/9/96]

AND THEN GET REALLY PISSED!!

AND WHEN WAS IT CAIR WAS FORMED OH WASN'T IT 1995??

Someothers would know the Dates for sure??

No this is a hand carry for a new bank account Remember they have been crying for money help seams the Iraqi people aing going to kill themselves for just 100$$ anymore they want to live and want to have Running water in their homes and Tollets and Tollet paper..

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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM HELP THE WORLD TO GET MEDEVIL ON THESE MONSTERS AMEN

So, because CArroll is sympathetic to the Iraqi people and to Islam, that's going to save her? Ah. Anyone remember Margaret Hassan?

"The kidnapping of Jill Carroll does not benefit the kidnappers," said Awad, whose Washington-based group represents U.S. mosques and Islamic associations. "If she is released she will continue to talk about Iraqi issues, and, as people have noted, she has been friendly and respectful of the Iraqi people, not an enemy."
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Hmm, lets analyze this...
Okay, so CAIR knows what benefits the kidnappers. How do they know this? Why do they care?

And she is "not an enemy of the Iraqi people". So CAIR is implying that the kidnappers made a mistake this time? That the kidnappers generally or usually kidnap "enemies of the Iraqi people"? That would be a justifiable activity. But how do they determine who an "enemy of the Iraqi people" is?
Also, what is this about "talking about Iraqi issues"? That seems more like a advocacy activity than a disinterested reporting of news and events.
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Now this:
"Do not sacrifice an innocent soul," her father, Jim Carroll, said in a statement released Friday. "Allow her to be your voice to the world. Her life as a reporter would better serve your purpose than her death."

Now I can empathize with the family, and their desperation, but..

Why on earth would this guy want his daughter to be her kidnapper's "voice to the world"? How does he know her life would better serve the kidnappers purpose than her death? He does not really believe the kidnappers purpose is worthy of support does he? He's just saying this, trying to "reason" with the thugs, right? Right?

I suspect another multiculturalist is getting their fantasy-world exploded right in front of their face, but the denial will continue.
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Then I decided to look further into what I was thinking, somewhat hesitant to express it, and I found this as well:

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/cat_jill_carroll.php

So, because CArroll is sympathetic to the Iraqi people and to Islam, that's going to save her? Ah. Anyone remember Margaret Hassan?

Posted by: libbysmom
Right libbysmom, so much for the line about not waging warfare on women. JW has had muslims claiming that islam forbids killng women. Maybe these kidnappers missed the memo.

The publicity stunt by Nihad Awad and one other member of CAIR, to fly into Baghdad Airport, remain there (they're not taking any chances on that airport road for the sake of the kidnapped journalist -- oh ho), and telephone a few people in Baghdad, when they might have just remained home and made the same phone calls, to precisely the same practical effect -- but not for all the public-relations benefits they transparently hope, like all those other Muslim-groups-in-Western-countries that make such a show of stepping in to "help rescue" this or that hostage (and thereby, presumably, earn the undying gratitude of local non-Muslims, and the non-Muslim country whose laws, customs, manners, understandings those same Muslim organizations work to overturn and subvert, by replacing them, whenever and wherever they can, with others more in keeping with Muslim beliefs and Muslim requirements and Muslim demands).

Nonesense, of course. For the public, which is becoming less credulous, and more suspicious, of Muslim "efforts" like these, with every passing day.

they're not taking any chances on that airport road for the sake of the kidnapped journalist -- oh ho

Really picky point, but do you mean "oh no", rather than "oh ho"? Or do you mean "ho ho", or "uh-oh"? Or perhaps "oho", as in the song "The Campbells are comin, Oho! Oho!"?

The kidnapping of Jill Carroll does not benefit the kidnappers...

Oh those poor Jihadists. They be mixed up. They be needing the services of some Koran Scientists for guidance on how to properly direct their Jihad actions.

I'm the last one to throw rocks at other people's parenting skills, but really, the father again...what's he saying? "Let my daughter go and she'll betray our country for you?"

"Allow her to be your voice to the world. Her life as a reporter would better serve your purpose than her death."

I know he's upset and reaching, but it might have been better if he had thought to reach up instead of down. As Weaver says, the concept of the hero is dead. No one lives for anything beyond themselves anymore.

Hugh, of course, is correct. This is nothing more than a CAIR PR stunt. Certainly, we all wish for Carroll's release, but anyone who does not see CAIR's actions for what they are is foolish indeed. The perfect scenario for them would be that as Carroll is released, the MSM headlines would say "AMERICAN MUSLIM ORGANIZATION GAINS RELEASE OF CHRISTIAN!" That would be so sweet, would it not, Ibrahim? Americans bowing in gratitude to Muslims?

From Hugh: "The publicity stunt by Nihad Awad and one other member of CAIR, to fly into Baghdad Airport, remain there (they're not taking any chances on that airport road for the sake of the kidnapped journalist -- oh ho), and telephone a few people in Baghdad, when they might have just remained home and made the same phone calls..."

How do we know they didn't make those calls? For all we know, considering the fact that the hostage-takers are a group no one has ever heard of, the whole thing might have been a set-up by CAIR to begin with.

Yes, CAIR could have made the same calls from "home", but then they would reveal their association to terrorism that way. Best CAIR come to Iraq and speak to them directly. Looks to me like CAIR is working to conspire against the nation they live in. That's against the law isn't it?

As far a this "reporter" goes, being held (for saftey reasons I'm sure) by those good Islamic people she often writes about should be cause for concern at all, not according to what she writes about them.

She's probably just forgotten the time, or it's a hoax like those other anti war activists who seemed to have just vanished from the radar. They probably have already turned up somewhere, but the media has kept the hoax quiet.

"Yes, CAIR could have made the same calls from "home", but then they would reveal their association to terrorism that way. Best CAIR come to Iraq and speak to them directly."

You have a point.

"Looks to me like CAIR is working to conspire against the nation they live in. That's against the law isn't it?"

So are most Democrats and all liberals, and yes, it's supposed to be. Oh. And God forbid I should leave out the ACLU, CAIR's bro-in-arms.

Thanks for that link to the Jawa Report, a blog I had not seen before. They at least are not too timid or too obtuse to underscore the Leftist pathology that is central to the West's continuing inability to deal adequately with the Problem of Islam. They correctly identified the sincerely pretty in a liberal sort of way reporter Carrol and her parents as scurrilous Leftists -- "Please let my daughter go, because she's on your side!".

Not Just the Iranians To understand how the Clinton green light would lead to this degree of Iranian influence Posted by the Squirrel

Are you stuck in a time warp? That was 1997, this is 9 years later, and we have the sad spectacle of a Republican neo con administration, sponsoring and approving a Shi'a government and constitution in Iraq, and one that is allied (through) SCIRI with Iran. And of whom Wolfowitz eulogized at the funeral of the assassinated Ayatollah al Hakim (in 2003, after the fall of Baghdad) that he was the Abraham Lincoln of his country.. talk of treason.. the neo cons sold out even before the invasion to the Iranians.

and the dufus still talk about Clinton?

On subject: Every picture I see of Jill Carroll is of her in Hijab or Chador.. prolly another of those converts.

I hope this administration has more cajones than the Germans or Italians.. no ransom, no demands she after all put herself in harms way.

That this is a CAIR publicity stunt should be obvious, especially if they dared not venture from the airport.I also wonder about hypocritical leftist groups like Amnesty International that never hesitate to criticize the US government but can't seem to find their voice to criticize Islamofascists.

LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!!

http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm

January 16, 1997
Clinton-Approved Iranian Arms Transfers Help Turn Bosnia into Militant Islamic Base

"'There is no question that the policy of getting arms into Bosnia was of great assistance in allowing the Iranians to dig in and create good relations with the Bosnian government,' a senior CIA officer told Congress in a classified deposition. 'And it is a thing we will live to regret because when they blow up some Americans, as they no doubt will before this . . . thing is over, it will be in part because the Iranians were able to have the time and contacts to establish themselves well in Bosnia.'" ["Iran Gave Bosnia Leader $500,000, CIA Alleges: Classified Report Says Izetbegovic Has Been 'Co-Opted,' Contradicting U.S. Public Assertion of Rift," Los Angeles Times, 12/31/96. Ellipses in original. Alija Izetbegovic is the Muslim president of Bosnia.]
"'If you read President Izetbegovic's writings, as I have, there is no doubt that he is an Islamic fundamentalist,' said a senior Western diplomat with long experience in the region. 'He is a very nice fundamentalist, but he is still a fundamentalist. This has not changed. His goal is to establish a Muslim state in Bosnia, and the Serbs and Croats understand this better than the rest of us.'" ["Bosnian Leader Hails Islam at Election Rallies," New York Times, 9/2/96]
Introduction and Summary
In late 1995, President Bill Clinton dispatched some 20,000 U.S. troops to Bosnia-Hercegovina as part of a NATO-led "implementation force" (IFOR) to ensure that the warring Muslim, Serbian, and Croatian factions complied with provisions of the Dayton peace plan. [NOTE: This paper assumes the reader is acquainted with the basic facts of the Bosnian war leading to the IFOR deployment. For background, see RPC's "Clinton Administration Ready to Send U.S. Troops to Bosnia, "9/28/95," and Legislative Notice No. 60, "Senate to Consider Several Resolutions on Bosnia," 12/12/95] Through statements by Administration spokesmen, notably Defense Secretary Perry and Joint Chiefs Chairman General Shalikashvili, the president firmly assured Congress and the American people that U.S. personnel would be out of Bosnia at the end of one year. Predictably, as soon as the November 1996 election was safely behind him, President Clinton announced that approximately 8,500 U.S. troops would be remaining for another 18 months as part of a restructured and scaled down contingent, the "stabilization force" (SFOR), officially established on December 20, 1996.
SFOR begins its mission in Bosnia under a serious cloud both as to the nature of its mission and the dangers it will face. While IFOR had successfully accomplished its basic military task -- separating the factions' armed forces -- there has been very little progress toward other stated goals of the Dayton agreement, including political and economic reintegration of Bosnia, return of refugees to their homes, and apprehension and prosecution of accused war criminals. It is far from certain that the cease-fire that has held through the past year will continue for much longer, in light of such unresolved issues as the status of the cities of Brcko (claimed by Muslims but held by the Serbs) and Mostar (divided between nominal Muslim and Croat allies, both of which are currently being armed by the Clinton Administration). Moreover, at a strength approximately one-third that of its predecessor, SFOR may not be in as strong a position to deter attacks by one or another of the Bosnian factions or to avoid attempts to involve it in renewed fighting: "IFOR forces, despite having suffered few casualties, have been vulnerable to attacks from all of the contending sides over the year of the Dayton mandate. As a second mandate [i.e., SFOR] evolves, presumably maintaining a smaller force on the ground, the deterrent effect which has existed may well become less compelling and vulnerabilities of the troops will increase." ["Military Security in Bosnia-Herzegovina: Present and Future," Bulletin of the Atlantic Council of the United States, 12/18/96]
The Iranian Connection
Perhaps most threatening to the SFOR mission -- and more importantly, to the safety of the American personnel serving in Bosnia -- is the unwillingness of the Clinton Administration to come clean with the Congress and with the American people about its complicity in the delivery of weapons from Iran to the Muslim government in Sarajevo. That policy, personally approved by Bill Clinton in April 1994 at the urging of CIA Director-designate (and then-NSC chief) Anthony Lake and the U.S. ambassador to Croatia Peter Galbraith, has, according to the Los Angeles Times (citing classified intelligence community sources), "played a central role in the dramatic increase in Iranian influence in Bosnia." Further, according to the Times, in September 1996 National Security Agency analysts contradicted Clinton Administration claims of declining Iranian influence, insisting instead that "Iranian Revolutionary Guard personnel remain active throughout Bosnia." Likewise, "CIA analysts noted that the Iranian presence was expanding last fall," with some ostensible cultural and humanitarian activities "known to be fronts" for the Revolutionary Guard and Iran's intelligence service, known as VEVAK, the Islamic revolutionary successor to the Shah's SAVAK. [LAT, 12/31/96] At a time when there is evidence of increased willingness by pro-Iranian Islamic militants to target American assets abroad -- as illustrated by the June 1996 car-bombing at the Khobar Towers in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, that killed 19 American airmen, in which the Iranian government or pro-Iranian terrorist organizations are suspected ["U.S. Focuses Bomb Probe on Iran, Saudi Dissident," Chicago Tribune, 11/4/96] -- it is irresponsible in the extreme for the Clinton Administration to gloss over the extent to which its policies have put American personnel in an increasingly vulnerable position while performing an increasingly questionable mission.
Three Key Issues for Examination
This paper will examine the Clinton policy of giving the green light to Iranian arms shipments to the Bosnian Muslims, with serious implications for the safety of U.S. troops deployed there. (In addition, RPC will release a general analysis of the SFOR mission and the Clinton Administration's request for supplemental appropriations to fund it in the near future.) Specifically, the balance of this paper will examine in detail the three issues summarized below:
1. The Clinton Green Light to Iranian Arms Shipments (page 3): In April 1994, President Clinton gave the government of Croatia what has been described by Congressional committees as a "green light" for shipments of weapons from Iran and other Muslim countries to the Muslim-led government of Bosnia. The policy was approved at the urging of NSC chief Anthony Lake and the U.S. ambassador to Croatia Peter Galbraith. The CIA and the Departments of State and Defense were kept in the dark until after the decision was made.
2. The Militant Islamic Network (page 5): Along with the weapons, Iranian Revolutionary Guards and VEVAK intelligence operatives entered Bosnia in large numbers, along with thousands of mujahedin ("holy warriors") from across the Muslim world. Also engaged in the effort were several other Muslim countries (including Brunei, Malaysia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and Turkey) and a number of radical Muslim organizations. For example, the role of one Sudan-based "humanitarian organization," called the Third World Relief Agency, has been well-documented. The Clinton Administration's "hands-on" involvement with the Islamic network's arms pipeline included inspections of missiles from Iran by U.S. government officials.
3. The Radical Islamic Character of the Sarajevo Regime (page 8): Underlying the Clinton Administration's misguided green light policy is a complete misreading of its main beneficiary, the Bosnian Muslim government of Alija Izetbegovic. Rather than being the tolerant, multiethnic democratic government it pretends to be, there is clear evidence that the ruling circle of Izetbegovic's party, the Party of Democratic Action (SDA), has long been guided by the principles of radical Islam. This Islamist orientation is illustrated by profiles of three important officials, including President Izetbegovic himself; the progressive Islamization of the Bosnian army, including creation of native Bosnian mujahedin units; credible claims that major atrocities against civilians in Sarajevo were staged for propaganda purposes by operatives of the Izetbegovic government; and suppression of enemies, both non-Muslim and Muslim.
The Clinton Green Light to Iranian Arms Shipments
Both the Senate Intelligence Committee and the House Select Subcommittee to Investigate the United States Role in Iranian Arms Transfers to Croatia and Bosnia issued reports late last year. (The Senate report, dated November 1996, is unclassified. The House report is classified, with the exception of the final section of conclusions, which was released on October 8, 1996; a declassified version of the full report is expected to be released soon.) The reports, consistent with numerous press accounts, confirm that on April 27, 1994, President Clinton directed Ambassador Galbraith to inform the government of Croatia that he had "no instructions" regarding Croatia's decision whether or not to permit weapons, primarily from Iran, to be transshipped to Bosnia through Croatia. (The purpose was to facilitate the acquisition of arms by the Muslim-led government in Sarajevo despite the arms embargo imposed on Yugoslavia by the U.N. Security Council.) Clinton Administration officials took that course despite their awareness of the source of the weapons and despite the fact that the Croats (who were themselves divided on whether to permit arms deliveries to the Muslims) would take anything short of a U.S. statement that they should not facilitate the flow of Iranian arms to Bosnia as a "green light."
The green light policy was decided upon and implemented with unusual secrecy, with the CIA and the Departments of State and Defense only informed after the fact. ["U.S. Had Options to Let Bosnia Get Arms, Avoid Iran," Los Angeles Times, 7/14/96] Among the key conclusions of the House Subcommittee were the following (taken from the unclassified section released on October 8):
"The President and the American people were poorly served by the Administration officials who rushed the green light decision without due deliberation, full information and an adequate consideration of the consequences." (page 202)
"The Administration's efforts to keep even senior US officials from seeing its 'fingerprints' on the green light policy led to confusion and disarray within the government." (page 203)
"The Administration repeatedly deceived the American people about its Iranian green light policy." (page 204)
Clinton, Lake, and Galbraith Responsible

YES TYIME WARP AND NOW WHAT IS IT HILARY CLINTON SAID THE OTHER DAY??

NOW WE ARE HAVING TO CLEAN UP A MESS??

and it is not old news for most Americans??

CAUSE all we heard about was OH STOP IT IS HIS PERSONAL LIFE??

So are you defending this Crap??

If you are you are a Tratior to America and her Friends!!

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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

YOU See I'm am thinking of all those Christians who were killed because of the Cover-up and how Europe is being taken because they are worried about their part and are worried about being called a name?

AS for the Iraqi people they know what they have to do to save themselves If they want to be FREE they must turn in the monsters.

As for the State department YES we still have some scum baggs left over from Billy Boy trying to give cover for all the Wrongs I say time to EXPOSE THEM

and any poli who would sell out mankind for greed.

Like
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/367wlqji.asp
The strangest episode came from an appearance by Senator Jay Rockefeller on Fox News Sunday:
WALLACE: OK. Senator Rockefeller, the president says that Democratic critics, like you, looked at pre-war intelligence and came to the same conclusion that he did. In fact, looking back at the speech that you gave in October of 2002 in which you authorized the use of force, you went further than the president ever did. Let's watch:
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ROCKEFELLER: I do believe that Iraq poses an imminent threat, but I also believe that after September 11th that question is increasingly outdated.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WALLACE: Now, the president never said that Saddam Hussein was an imminent threat. As you saw, you did say that. If anyone hyped the intelligence, isn't it Jay Rockefeller?
ROCKEFELLER: No. I mean, this question is asked a thousand times and I'll be happy to answer it a thousand times. I took a trip by myself in January of 2002 to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria, and I told each of the heads of state that it was my view that George Bush had already made up his mind to go to war against Iraq, that that was a predetermined set course which had taken shape shortly after 9/11. [emphasis added]
What was the second-ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee doing in Syria, a country which perennially finds itself among the top listings of terrorist-sponsoring nations, discussing President Bush's decision-making on the war on terror with Bashar Assad, one of the worst sponsors of terror in the months after 9/11?

A GOOD READ AND WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO PUT HIM IN JAIL???

WHO AGAIN WHO SAYS DEMOCRATS ARE NOT A DANGER TO THE SAFTY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND WHEN IS THE SENATE GOING TO FIND OUT AND EXPOSE THE LEAKER OF CLASSIFIED INFO ABOUT PRISONS?
If it is McCain put him in jail too!!!!!
Give the people open hearings on ABLE DANGER!!! Call Sandy Burger [PLEADED GUILTY TO STUFFING HIS PANTS WITH CLASSIFIED PAPERS] to testify find out what he destroyed!!!!

JUST A LITTLE MORE CURRENT!!

If I was Jill and Knew CAIR was coming to my aid I be a bit worried??

If I remember right they went to the Aid of Margret TOO??

And we all know what happened to her..

You see somethings do matter??

And what about all that money taken out of the market by Iran again history shows us the pat. So sometimes a timewarp is a good thing to remember when the enemy shows itself plan and clear

and as Posted by: Nariz at January 22, 2006 02:14 PM
has pointed out the dufuses who are willing to AID AND COMFORT THE ENEMY all for greed or sex seams the little wolf sleeps with a mulsum woman Wonder what that does to the mulsum ego having a Jewish man have a mulsum conubine??

Seams that Basra has started killing their birds BIRD Flue you know?? ALthough they said something about Turkey but Basra is in the south closer to IRAN wonder what that comution was??
Remember the People killed in Afghani moutians a couple of years back what did they call it a mysterous illness was killing all the Women and Babys??? does this mean they now have let islamic terrorist in from Iran who have brought the YELLOW CURSE?? SO IT IS THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST WHO ARE BRING THE YELLOW CURSE ON THE WHOLE MULSUM WORLD AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM??

Well the only extra food we have is pork!!

What will that do and looks like the Russians may be close to having enough just a thought??

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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO EXPOSE AND DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

Catherine

Many of us are taking that "jump to the left, then a step to the right" with you. But the "pelvic thrusts" are beginning to get to us.

Hint.

Indeed.

"pelvic thrusts" are beginning to get to us.

Hint.
Posted by: zhu97 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 11:31 PM]\

hey Hint.. here a clue.. use your logic,, you lead with the "Right".

We had a similar situation in Austalia with a prominent mufti here, Sheikh Hilaly.
Inbetween hate preaching, he was jetting off on Iraq-hostage-crisis publicity stunts. He ended up claiming to have negotiated the hostages release which apparently wasn't the case.

Here's a gem of his...

"Don’t be surprised if one day you hear the Muezzin calling for prayer and saying “Allah Akbar (Allah is Great)” from the top of the white house. September 11 is God’s work against oppressors. Some of the things that happen in the world cannot be explained; a civilian airplane whose secrets cannot be explained if we ask its pilot who reached his objective without error, who led your steps? (An allusion to 7/11) Or if we ask the giant that fell, who humiliated you? Or if we ask the President, who made you cry? God is the answer. "

Can't trust 'em, can't deport 'em.

CAIR's out of the country!!! Quick close the borders!!!

Note the language used by CAIR - that killing Carroll "would harm the Iraqi people and the Iraqi cause." CAIR is taking a page out of the Fatah playbook. When pressed hard by Rice or others to condemn Palestinian Arab terror attacks against Jews, Abbas/Abu Mazen will typically issue a statement that such attacks do not help the Palestinian cause. IOW, Abbas is not condeming the ends (i.e., the destruction of the Jewish State), but the means, which will slow the progress towards the ends. Similarly, CAIR, as a normative Muslim organization, is clearly looking forward to the worldwide conquest of Islam, but sees in Carroll's kidnapping an action that will slow this process down, especially inside the U.S.A. Hence, they condemn not the act, but the poor means chosen to accomplish Islamic goals.

Has anyone looked into whether or not Jill, the "kidnappers" and the CAIRist could be staging the entire drama?

Good call, Good Karma. It is a play right out of the prophet's book.