BBC apologizes for showing some of the Muhammad cartoons

what a bunch of weasles these BBC people are! they have no problem making Jews, US military look bad, but oh no not the Muslims,, well those jihadists know no differnce from the BBC, and other Western people, and both are targetted! who they hit the BBC first!

The media is using the terrorist template: only go after soft targets. I don't want to insult cowards by comparing them to the American media or the BBC.

Well my dear friends and supporters of the danish people in the fine house of the BBC;

you support peaceful Islam (as we witnessed it in London in front of the Danish embassy promising death to me and my fellow Danes).

And you of course would never show a picture of Muhammad as a terrorist since this comparison is unfair (as we all could see when they burned my countries embassies in Syria and Libanon).

From the deepest of my danish freedom-loving heart I thank you for your brave stance in this matter, and from most danes Im sure I'm allowed to say: may your dhimmified news channel continue to experience an open and free debate in an open and free society... Best whishes!

They apologize for any offence caused, not for showing them. It's much the same as Jyllands-Posten(JP) as well many of the newspapers that have republished them. Atleast JP and others showed the "offensive" cartoons...

What I HATE about most of those who don't wish to publish them, or excuse muslim actions, see this issue as a numbers game. Because millions of muslims take offense, it's better not to show them. Since only a few hundred or thousand christians are offended by even worse caricatures, there's no reason to excuse them or consider their feelings.

"Numbers game" wins out...

Numbers game and thinness of skin.

God, this is depressing. Want cheering up? Look at this from The Religious Policeman. Very funny. Makes a good serious point too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/02/06/dl0601.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/02/06/ixnewstop.html

This newspaper has a deep regard for Islam, that purest and most abstract of the monotheistic faiths, to whose tenets we recently dedicated a series of colour supplements. We share the admiration of Rousseau, Carlyle and Gibbon for the Prophet, which is why, on grounds of courtesy, we have chosen not to cause gratuitous offence to his followers by reproducing the cartoons at the centre of this row.

Let the BBC know that they have saved themselves from offending Muslims, but in the same stroke of genius have offended 10's of millions of others...

Dhimmi keep me safe, oh please keep me safe!

Moose

The Telegraph too? Bloody hell.

that purest and most abstract of the monotheistic faiths

Abstract? Well, in the sense of not allowing pictures, yes. But can a faith be called "abstract" when it gives explicit instructions about how to wipe your arse?

But this offcourse doesn't even matter to the ignorant nutcases of Islam. They're still out in the streets screaming for terrorist attacks on the UK.

So good has come of BBC's and the UK governments spineless aproach to this? Nothing, because in the twisted logic of a muslim, they are guilty merely by being located roughly in the same area of the world as a newspaper in another country.

Atleast Tony Blair has expressed his "full support and solidarity" with Denmark.
NATO's secretary general has also said "freedom of speech is not open for debate".

Now that the "Jerusalem post" has published the cartoons, will muslims finally start the next world war? I mean... It IS Israel joining in...

Now there are only 1.299.999.999 muslims left to try exterminating the entire western civilization:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/02/06/cartoon.protests/index.html

Trying to curb the freedom of expression can cost your life, it seems. Which is only fitting since those protesters are busy crying for the beheading of other people.

Two great posts on the Cartoon Jihad, one from Melanie Phillips -- Melanie's Feb. 4 Diary entry -Cartoon Jihad Part II at www.melaniephillips.com and Ibn Warraq writing in Der Speigel, courtesy of frontpagemag.com, http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21172

BBC position is so sick that it makes me think that either they are controlled by Islam or they are scared about the consequences of informing the britons about the truth. This is not reporting but surrendering.

The great British philosopher John Stuart Mill wrote in On Liberty, "Strange it is, that men should admit the validity of the arguments for free discussion, but object to their being 'pushed to an extreme'; not seeing that unless the reasons are good for an extreme case, they are not good for any case."

The cartoons in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten raise the most important question of our times: freedom of expression. Are we in the west going to cave into pressure from societies with a medieval mindset, or are we going to defend our most precious freedom -- freedom of expression, a freedom for which thousands of people sacrificed their lives?

A democracy cannot survive long without freedom of expression, the freedom to argue, to dissent, even to insult and offend. It is a freedom sorely lacking in the Islamic world, and without it Islam will remain unassailed in its dogmatic, fanatical, medieval fortress; ossified, totalitarian and intolerant. Without this fundamental freedom, Islam will continue to stifle thought, human rights, individuality; originality and truth.

Unless, we show some solidarity, unashamed, noisy, public solidarity with the Danish cartoonists, then the forces that are trying to impose on the Free West a totalitarian ideology will have won; the Islamization of Europe will have begun in earnest. Do not apologize.

This raises another more general problem: the inability of the West to defend itself intellectually and culturally. Be proud, do not apologize. Do we have to go on apologizing for the sins our fathers? Do we still have to apologize, for example, for the British Empire, when, in fact, the British presence in India led to the Indian Renaissance, resulted in famine relief, railways, roads and irrigation schemes, eradication of cholera, the civil service, the establishment of a universal educational system where none existed before, the institution of elected parliamentary democracy and the rule of law? What of the British architecture of Bombay and Calcutta? The British even gave back to the Indians their own past: it was European scholarship, archaeology and research that uncovered the greatness that was India; it was British government that did its best to save and conserve the monuments that were a witness to that past glory. British Imperialism preserved where earlier Islamic Imperialism destroyed thousands of Hindu temples.

On the world stage, should we really apologize for Dante, Shakespeare, and Goethe? Mozart, Beethoven and Bach? Rembrandt, Vermeer, Van Gogh, Breughel, Ter Borch? Galileo, Huygens, Copernicus, Newton and Darwin? Penicillin and computers? The Olympic Games and Football? Human rights and parliamentary democracy? The west is the source of the liberating ideas of individual liberty, political democracy, the rule of law, human rights and cultural freedom. It is the west that has raised the status of women, fought against slavery, defended freedom of enquiry, expression and conscience. No, the west needs no lectures on the superior virtue of societies who keep their women in subjection, cut off their clitorises, stone them to death for alleged adultery, throw acid on their faces, or deny the human rights of those considered to belong to lower castes.

How can we expect immigrants to integrate into western society when they are at the same time being taught that the west is decadent, a den of iniquity, the source of all evil, racist, imperialist and to be despised? Why should they, in the words of the African-American writer James Baldwin, want to integrate into a sinking ship? Why do they all want to immigrate to the west and not Saudi Arabia? They should be taught about the centuries of struggle that resulted in the freedoms that they and everyone else for that matter, cherish, enjoy, and avail themselves of; of the individuals and groups who fought for these freedoms and who are despised and forgotten today; the freedoms that the much of the rest of world envies, admires and tries to emulate." When the Chinese students cried and died for democracy in Tiananmen Square (in 1989) , they brought with them not representations of Confucius or Buddha but a model of the Statue of Liberty."

Freedom of expression is our western heritage and we must defend it or it will die from totalitarian attacks. It is also much needed in the Islamic world. By defending our values, we are teaching the Islamic world a valuable lesson, we are helping them by submitting their cherished traditions to Enlightenment values.

Born in 1946 in India and raised in Pakistan, Ibn Warraq was educated in Koran schools in Pakistan and later in England. He currently lives in the United States and writes under the pseudonym Ibn Warraq, a pen name traditionally used by dissidents in Islam. He is the author of the best- seller "Why I am Not a Muslim" and the editor of "The Origins of the Koran" and "The Quest for the Historical Muhammad."

With this cartoon flap we have passed an important juncture.

The distinguishing characteristic of Islam is that it imposes itself on non-believers. These animals literally consider it a crime to not believe in Allah.

Well, by stupidly accepting that publishing the cartoons was a bad act not to be repeated, the Moslems have just imposed one of the key rules of Sharia on all of us: the absence of free speech.

Interested HA HA ! funniest thing I have read about the cartoons, so far ! Thank you.

http://muttawa.blogspot.com/2006/02/memo.html

For those in the US who are French or who understand French, here is the link to a fantastic vocal edito, "Ridicule" ("Ridiculous") from the French site "Christianity Info"... about the Cartoons and the dismissal of the French and British and Europeans leaders, whom the columnist calls "collaborationists".

http://www.chretiente.info/podcast/20060205.mp3

It is a very moving piece. It is currently circulating on the French internet... at light speed.

DanishDynamite, Denmark has earned the respect and support of many Americans.

I can't thank them enough for taking the first step to expose the Jihad and more importantly as Hugh has stated in his excellent posts, Demographic conquest and Da'wa.

The images of the London protesters has opened the eyes of many the uninterested and uninformed. Islam is now on the radar and is exposed to the truth, like a vampire hit by the light of the sun.

The danes have done more to stop this hidden threat then the so called war on terror.

I promise to all the Danish people that I will do everything with my powers to promote Denmark and Danish products, as well as all the products of countries that have published.

The events of last week have galvanized me and the wise words of Robert, Hugh and the many respected posters on this site have alerted the world.

DanishDynamite, tell the Danish people and the cartoon illustrators thank, thank, you now have the support of the vast awakening of people of the West.

On a lighter note may in New York feel like this funny flash cartoon, which my grandson sent to me.

Try it and imagine the cows rising up to stop Islam with cheese.

http://www.parkes.com/

"But we've taken a decision not to go further than that in order not to gratuitously offend the significant number of Muslims..."

In other words, this culturally sensitive news agency proudly operates in strict accordance with Islamic blasphemy laws--laws enforced by people who say "behead those who insult the prophet" and "exterminate Europeans".

Enough of this dhimmitude. All news agencies throughout the free world should get coordinated and agree to publish the cartoons simultaneously. We should not allow Denmark and the other European countries to bear the brunt of this alone.

So does BBC stand for Big Balless Cowards?
Or Basically Brainless Cravens?

I guess they never heard Ben Frranklin's apt quote:

"We must all hang together, or we shall ceretainly hang seperately."

(Is that the sound of white feathers I hear being mailed to their offices at Bush House, London???)

The BBC is so entertaining, and I by that, I'm not referring to their programming content. The BBC "brain trust" had some sort of subconcious understanding of the need to "do something" to demonstrate their committment to free expression, so they published what they thought were the "least offensive" cartoons, thinking that, after all, surely the muslims will be reasonable, in consideration of all the BBC lies spoken on their behalf the last couple of decades, and let them off the hook. Of course this gambit failed, since the muslims are neither reasonable, nor compromising, ever.

So now the buzzword is "gratuitous offence", meaning, I guess, that there is no point, and was never any point in soliciting these illustrations, or in republishing them, other than to offend the hypersensibilities of muslims. Talk about clueless!

Meanwhile, the uninformed infidel's eduction about islam continues apace, worldwide.

By the way, I endorse the above comments by El Cid. I have always had tremendous respect for the Danes for their principled courage, and for protecting their Jewish population from extermination by the nazis. Recent events have demonstrated that the Danish spirit is still alive and well, and may serve as a beacon for the rest of civilization. I also want to reiterate that our arabist-filled U.S. State Department certainly does not speak for me, nor for most Americans I've spoken with. We are with you.

And on a more lighthearted note;

Western terror labs have finally produced a weapon so horrific that it has shaken Islamic world to the core, making over a billion people from Morocco to Indonesia fear for the survival of their freedoms, morals, beliefs, cultures, governments, and the very life itself. The new weapon of terror, the so-called "Cartoon," is capable of delivering an equivalent of one million Hiroshima bombs, resulting in a horrendous mass destruction like none seen on Earth before.

Ahmed Jihad of the Soros-funded charity Make Bombs, Not Cartoons sadly stated that "This is the end of a tenuous peace between Muslims and Infidels, with only the occasional beheading, open market suicide bomb, or fiery suicide plane mission."

"I see no way to combat this horrific infidel weapon other than by balanced, fair, and rational hostage-taking, bomb-throwing, and embassy-burning, based on strict Islamic law and mutual understanding of our common goal, which is the Islamization of Earth," Mr. Jihad added. "These methods have proven efficient in dealing with the West in the past."

Egypt, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and Iran have been clandestinely working on the "Mother of All Erasers," in an attempt to control the budding menace of cartoon proliferation. "You can kill one infidel with a sword, but if he has already published a Mohammed cartoon, the cat is out of the fire, so to speak. With our new eraser technology, we may stand a chance at eliminating the cartoons before the damage is done," said Rabid Habibi, a member of People for the Unethical Treatment of Infidels.

People for the Unethical Treatment of Infidels: Stop cartoon proliferation before it destroys this wonderful green planet of ours!

French, German, and U.K. politicians have already promised to deliver any wayward cartoonists to the proper authorities for beheading. Said English foreign secretary Jack Straw, "We stand with our Islamist brethren on the precipice of an escalation from the current calm discourse to a world in which cartoons are free to offend willy-nilly, resulting in the need for retaliation against infidels on a broad scale. We in the West understand this, and will do our part to maintain the peace."

In the U.S., Howard Dean and John Kerry plan to hold special hearings on the matter, and are proposing a bill criminalizing the depiction of all Islamic religious figures. A probe is underway to determine the extent to which the Bush Administration knew about these cartoons prior to their publication.

Hi all,

here are a whole bunch of other mo cartoons also a lovley mobombhead tshirt

pass em round

http://hmmh.blogspot.com/

Following up on the Nassembot's troll, if any of
you have kids with mohammadan friends, time to
break off those relationships now. Explain to
the kids what a vile monster it is that these
idiots worship, and that when the time comes, the
mohammadans will have to leave.

Public opinion is swinging towards free speech, one of the few values shared by Left and Right in
the USA.

Muslims out!

treehugger-

LOL!

Succinct!

Now report to the I.C.I.C. for re-education immediately!

(Islamic Cartoon Indoctrination Center)

Meanwhile, Howard Dean has apologized ever buying india ink (popular with editorial page illustrators) and for not knowing where Denmark was.

Not publishing the cartoons is among other things an insult to non-Muslims. Just as bad is not reporting on the rage we of freedom loving world feel about this. All the headlines and banners I've seen are about Muslim rage.

It must be because of the old rule, "If it bleeds, it leads." and, "If it thinks, it sinks." Civilized behavior doesn't make exciting newcasts.

Just in: american ambassador in Denmark firmly behind Denmark and apologizes for previous luke-warm support!

http://ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=333867

It was about time! but im more than willing to forgive! I think our spam-campaign to the administration worked!

Thank you muslim rioters, you have now convinced my partner, who was firm in belief that islam was "just another religion," that islam itself is the problem. After watching Super Bowl XL (both of us having pulled for Seattle -ugh!) brodcast on ABC (the American Broadcasting Corporation ABC that is), there was an ABC news 's segment (following "Grey's Anantomy" on the Left Coast) that reported on the riots in Beirut. First they should the page of all twelve cartoons, then in full screen showed the one with the bomb in turban (that looks more like a Russian cossak). I fell off my chair when my partner remarked on who are they telling us what we can print. In the ensuing conversation, I realized my education on koranic teachings has not fallen on death ears.

Lisa's anecdote makes me think about the interesting sociological question: why do some people "get it" about the problem of Islam, and others don't? Most of the time, the people who get it are otherwise no different from the ones who do. Why can't the ones who don't get it shake off the PC brainwash, and why can the ones who DO get it successfully free their minds from PC?

my education on koranic teachings has not fallen on death ears

Deaf to Denmark!

Interestingly, if you were a Cockney, you would pronounce "death" and "deaf" in the same way.

So does BBC stand for Big Balless Cowards?
Or Basically Brainless Cravens?

- Profitsbeard

Ban Britain Campaign

Baalism, Bombs & Caliphate

Back Bone Collapsed

Backing Badgering Childishness

Buttressing Butcher's Concerns

Blatant Bufoon Consortium

Broadcasting Breathless Conjecture

Breeding Belligerent C*nts

Folks,

Here's a good motivational speech from Ali Sina on what we should do about this cartoon insanity. Be sure to look at his suggestions on page 2.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina60206.htm

From the article:

"This crisis has given us the opportunity to strike our biggest blow at the heart of Islam. We must hit Islam where it hurts most. Islam is a narcissistic cult and nothing hurts the narcissist more than ridicule."

Jokes and Cartoons are the weapons of choice.

Treehugger:

Priceless! Almost spilled my coffee, laughing so hard.

Wots that Interested? I'm a bit mutt an jeff in me old age...

treehugger, brilliant satire, LOL

I would like to apologize the spelling errors in my previous post, but not for any cartoons of cows.

Did anyone enjoy the silly flash cartoon "Cows have guns' I posted earlier, I realize that it is a bit pro animal rights and very pro guns, but the jingle " we will fight for bovine freedom" is catchy. Just change that to "fight for cartoon freedom".

Cartoons the "steak" in the heart of Da'wa and Jihad. Oops bad cow pun!

Dr Pepper writes:

"why do some people "get it" about the problem of Islam, and others don't? Why can't the ones who don't get it shake off the PC brainwash, and why can the ones who DO get it successfully free their minds from PC?"

That could be the subject for an interesting dissertation. I could write it but it would be too long here.

Suffice to say that the people who don't get it are either:

-too busy with their life (making the country richer, educating their children etc.) and one cannot blame them.
-not properly informed (and sites like this one are efficient and quick remedies)
- or more interestingly: uncomfortable with themselves, with their own identity and personnality (and sexuality ?), hence uncomfortable with their own civilisation and heritage.

See the case of "Sister Yvonne", in the UK (the half alcoholic British, left wing journalist who turned into a devoted Taliban). She admitted that she had "stopped drinking" and that "she would never, never again have to wait for a man she loves to call her". Yes, now she has Islam, and she will never feel humiliated and hurt by the little sorrows of life again. And now, she will not have to seduce, she will hide behind her veil.

I also suspect a secret pleasure in their feeling of superiority towards the Muslims... and the Thirt World in general. Yes after all, the West in too complex, too competitive, to difficult to face. People are rich and clever and beautiful and thin ! It is a hard job. No, it is better to admire the "beauty" of poor countries and poor people in villages with no hospital... and it is good to be the friends of the Poor and the Fanatics. Things seem soooooooo easier...

And also, people who are not self confident are unable to defend their opinion if it is not the mainstream opinion. But when the wind turns, they quickly learn the new Evangile and repeat it. It reassures them to be in the Norm at all times, physically and intellectually. Cf. Hollywood, typically obsessed with appearances, a micro cosmos where appearance and image are more important than any value and any truth (some of them can't stand it and they have to take drugs to endure it, the pack of dogs can be very tough).

Sorry, I explain that very badly ! But I am sure someone on here will explain it better.

and lol @ Granny enquiring about pronounciation issues rather than the BBC islamisation. So English ! Always flegmatic in the tempest.

El Cid
I adored the cow cartoon and immediately sent it to my sister and brother lol.
But I could not figure out if it is pro animal, anti Bush, pro / anti Che Guevara, pro / anti communist or if the cows represent us citizens ? Never mind, it is brilliant.

To give credit where credit is due, the satire is from freerepublic http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1572754/posts.

I'm a bit mutt an jeff in me old age...

Would you Adam and Eve it?

So English ! Always flegmatic in the tempest.

If you want real phlegm, try Belgium.

Here's an excerpt from the Scotsman

Crackdown call over slogans of violence by cartoon protesters

FERGUS SHEPPARD

Key points
• Police urged to act in face of anger about drawings
• In Beirut, 20,000 protesters marched on the Danish embassy
• A Catholic priest was shot dead in Turkey

Key quote
"Clearly some of these placards are incitement to violence, and indeed incitement to murder - an extremely serious offence which the police must deal with and deal with quickly.”- David Davis, shadow home secretary

PRESSURE was growing on the Metropolitan police last night to take action against extremist Islamic protesters who brandished placards advocating violence towards those behind satirical cartoons lampooning the Prophet Muhammad.

The Tories led calls for a police crackdown as the publication of the cartoons sparked renewed violence in the Islamic world. In Beirut, the Danish embassy was torched, while in Turkey a Catholic priest was shot dead in the courtyard of his church.

The Metropolitan Police said they were investigating "a number" of complaints from the public over placards carried by some Islamic protesters in London on Friday and Saturday.

Slogans included "Massacre those who insult Islam"; "Europe, your 9/11 will come" and - in an apparent reference to the four 7 July suicide bombers - "Europe you will pay, fantastic 4 are on their way".

David Davis, the shadow home secretary, said: "Clearly some of these placards are incitement to violence, and indeed incitement to murder - an extremely serious offence which the police must deal with and deal with quickly. Whatever your view on these cartoons, we have a tradition of freedom of speech in this country which has to be protected."

Mr Davis's comments were echoed by Dominic Grieve, the shadow attorney general. He expressed concern that protesters who threatened violence had not been arrested during the demonstrations.

Police said they were studying footage of the protests but refused to say if any prosecutions would go ahead. In Beirut, 20,000 protesters defied tear gas to march on the Danish embassy and torch the empty building. One protester, among those who set the building on fire, was encircled by flames and died after jumping from the third floor.

joiesauvage, the people who make the cartoons appear to be animals rights proponents. The references to Che ( a vile communist idealist ) are a bit mocking, he is stand in for a typical revolutionary. Bush a i believe is just their because he is the current president.

It does suggest that gun owner ship can empower the average citizen to defend his rights, if only the average French citizens could have been armed, then the burning of the suburbs would not have happened.

Let the muslims riot in the US and the armed response by gun owners would be swift and punishing. It's an American thing, you can legally have fire arms in your house and stop a mob if the want to burn it down or hold them off till the police arrive.

it happened during the Los Angles riot as Korean shop keepers saved their shops from being burnt.

Lisa writes:
"Thank you muslim rioters, you have now convinced my partner, who was firm in belief that islam was "just another religion," that islam itself is the problem"

Good work Lisa! Now if you can convince more, and your partner too, then we are rolling. My family
thought I was extreme a few years ago when I started
bringing the topic up, but they are all convinced now. You might be surprised at how fast people here are waking up.

joiesauvage, how are things in France now? Are
people beginning to think the "unthinkable", that
is to remove "en masse" the mohammadans? It will
come to that, whether people believe it or not.

Bravo! to our British firends on Jihadwatch, for putting pressure on the MP, Granny, interested and all the rest should be proud that maybe the politicians are starting to respond. Now If you could just get the cartoons printed.

Too little too late award of the year so far goes to this man:

A man who dressed as a suicide bomber during a protest about cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad has apologised for his behaviour.

Berk. As in Cockney rhyming slang "Berkshire Hunt".

Archimedes,

Jack Wheeler over at ToThePoint says something similar to Al Sina at FaithFreedom. That Islam cannot tolerate ridicule. Here's what Jack wrote

___________________________________

Finally, Islam has picked a fight with the West in which the West will actually fight back, has picked a fight it will lose. Finally, folks are figuring out that Islam has a fatal weak spot: it is so insecure that it can’t take the heat of ridicule.

Finally, Islam has exposed its mortal weakness to the world.

Instead of being confident, assured, and fearless, Moslems through their crazed outrage over some cartoons in an obscure Danish-language newspaper, are proclaiming to the world their lack of confidence, lack of assurance, and fear. As my father said:

“Show me a bully and I’ll show you a coward.”

It’s taken these cartoons for folks to figure this out about Moslems. While it’s easy to be scared of people when they’re terrorists, it’s hard to be scared of them when they’re a joke.

By their frightened protests and threats – threatening to bomb the Jyllands-Posten office because of a cartoon showing Mohammed wearing a lit bomb for a turban: are these idiots too dense to see the irony? – Moslems have turned Islam into a Cartoon Religion.

If they had shown the slightest bit of maturity and genuine confidence by ignoring the cartoons’ affront, the world in turn would have ignored the cartoons. By making such a globally stupid stink, when the world thinks of Mohammed now, it will think of this:

mohammed_bombhead.jpg

Smart work, guys. Further evidence that Islam is a doomed religion.

Contrary to those who think Islam is taking over the world, I think any religion preaching intolerance and violence has no future in today’s world.

That Islam cannot tolerate ridicule.

Put more accurately, Islam will not tolerate ridicule. It is so commanded by God in the Sunnah. It all started with Afak.

With these murders and riots and death threats, the Moslems are only doing what God commands them.

grrrr i had written a long post about france but i accidentally erased it !
dont have the courage to write it again now.

or a brief summary ?

it is too late for france, we have too many muslims. They are already starting to impose their sharia, first step: "freedom of speech, go to hell".

BBC's interest in the Middle East

Don't know if it was mentioned here before but BBC had closed several Central and Eastern-European news services at the end of last year which for example in my country, Czech Republic had been a best team of journalists in the local media.
And reason?
They plan to launch a big TV News Channel in the Middle East & claim they don't have enough resources without these closures...

Well, it just came back to me when following their appaling politically correct coverage on the cartoons row.

Alarmed Pig Farmer-

While no porkers appear in the opening Act, check out "MO! -The Musical" in the coments section on the "IslamoChristians and Bethlehem" article.

You'll be glad to know that "The Gaderene Swine"* DO appear in Act Two, miraculously appearing 600 years after they went off a cliff in the New Testament. To sing, ala a host of "Babes", in a corkscrew-tailed chorus to Mohammad about the authenicity of his 'Satanic Verses'. (Writing it for posting on an upcoming blog--- that I'll link to here at JW/DW when the opus is completed).

*P.S. -the late, lamented humorist Steve Allen wrote a nifty little short story about said swine, and their innocent owner's finanical disaster thanks to that meddlesome rabbi's using them to cast out devils into.

The only humor Muslims seem to understand is aqueous. (And even that is cloudy.)

The BBC like all the RESt of the so called
Liberal Brave newspapers realizes ..

that
Attacking Christians is SAFE
Attacking Jews is safe

Atacking the USA is safe
Attacking our soldiers is safe..

But.......

Attacking islam WILL result in
DEATH
Fires
Looting
Rapes
Be-headings
WAR
Destruction

And if you apologize .... well
Its a little too late...

Naseem you said "All must now respect the right of the prophet Mohd (Pbuh) never to be blasphemed again...."
Wrong Naseem. In America we still have freedom of speech and freedom of the press guaranteed among our basic rights. We can disagree with anyone, and we will, even your false prophet (Pigs Be Upon Him) Mo. I salute those courageous Danes, Germans, French, Spainiards, Italians and all the others who have stood up for their rights in this matter. I was going to start a blog showing Mohammed's picture beside a pig, but then I thought, "Why insult the pig?".
This is about Muslims subjugating people's rights in all societies, all cultures. In doing this the Muslims have shown that they are the new Nazis.
Like the Nazis, they cry they just want "lebensraum", room to expand and live wherever they want.
Like the Nazis, Chamberlin thought Nazi Germany could be appeased, and apologists in the West still believe that "Islam is a religion of peace that has been hijacked by a few extremists".
Like the Nazis who had Hitler's "Mein Kampf" Muslims have Mohammed's "Q'uran".
Like the Nazis, it was a capital offense to make fun or speak critically of "Der Furher", in Islam it is a capital offense to make fun of or speak critically of Mohammed.
Like the Nazis, they are told they are superior, the "master race".
Like the Nazis they are told that it is their destiny to conquer and rule the world.
Like the Nazis, they seek to impose their beliefs on the entire world by force.
Like the Nazis, they seek to silence all criticism and opposition.
Like the Nazis, they use murder, torture and intimidation to achieve their goals.
Like the Nazis, they seek to kill all Jews and eliminate all other religions.
The Nazis said "Gott Mit Uns", they cry "Allah Akbar"
Like the Nazis, they are losers and will come to the same end.
Will Europe continue to make the same mistakes they made prior to WWII? Or do we have to go through that whole mess again?

Here on the Left Coast, the San Francisco Chronicle has stated that it would not publish the cartoons in its print edition, since the cartoons are so readily available from other sources, and indeed its on-line edition provides links to these sources. Its reason is that publishing now is only gratutitous, and does not further the debate of free speech over taboo.

All of the articles published by the Chronicle, including its on-line World Views forum, have clearly come down in favor of the supremacy of free thought over taboo. Note its lead with reprinting from the Telegraph of the cartoon of submission before fear, and the other cartoon of an artist holding a drawing that contains only text "Mohammed with a big nose." In this bastion of liberalism, it is heartening to see in the reader comments of the World Views blogs, the strong condemnation of Islam. Perhaps is has finally set into the nonreligious and/or liberal mindset, and to the tolerance of everyone whether right, left, pious or atheist, that Islam is after all the greatest enemy.

This is not a Christian/secular fault line, a Republican/Democrat fault line nor a left/right fault line. Islam is the San Andreas, Hayward and Calaveras fault system, above which our beautiful Bay Area cities thrive, building pressure to erupt violently at any time to destroy all for which we have worked so hard to achieve.

From yesterdays Chronicle Editorial Is nothing sacred:

Strong editorial cartoons can be outrageous, unfair and, yes, irreverent to the most sacred institutions of society -- even to the edge of blasphemy at times. Humor can be a wickedly effective device in making a point, but it also can be a hurtful weapon if used clumsily or with malice toward a segment of humanity.

The question is, who makes that judgment? Censorship, even when unleashed under the well-intentioned guise of sensitivity, has a way of turning into tyranny.

No law, of state or religion, should be allowed to become the ultimate arbiter of freedom of expression.

The ABC (American Broadcasting Corporation) television news on the local affiliate has shown full screen images of the cartoons on television, and has inferred that the riots and destruction confirm the content of the cartoons. They added the obligatory interview of a local hijab clad muslim from a Santa Clara County muslim organization, and limited her on-air soundbite to "but, but, Islam is a religion of peace..." to highlight the discongruity.

The BBC is a disgrace to Britain. They do not have any guts to stand up to anything - they think only of appeasement and cowardice in the face of tyranny. Although I am not a supporter of the BNP, the BBC had the audacity to infiltrate the BNP and have them taken to court on their actions. What about all the Islamofacists in our midst, all the Muslim organizations, who everyday are calling for the death and destruction of innocent Britishers and are undermining the whole country; a fifth column in our midst and the BBC does nothing. I have no respect for the gutless, cowards who operate the BBC at all. They infiltrated the BNP knowing fully well that they will not march on the streets burning and pillaging. They have not guts to infiltrate the organizations which are the real enemies of Britain.

From in the incomparable Mark Steyn in the Chicago Sun Times 'Sensitivity' can have brutal consequences

One day, years from now, as archaeologists sift through the ruins of an ancient civilization for clues to its downfall, they'll marvel at how easy it all was. You don't need to fly jets into skyscrapers and kill thousands of people. As a matter of fact, that's a bad strategy, because even the wimpiest state will feel obliged to respond. But if you frame the issue in terms of multicultural "sensitivity," the wimp state will bend over backward to give you everything you want -- including, eventually, the keys to those skyscrapers. Thus, Jack Straw, the British foreign secretary, hailed the "sensitivity" of Fleet Street in not reprinting the offending cartoons.

No doubt he's similarly impressed by the "sensitivity" of Anne Owers, Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Prisons, for prohibiting the flying of the English national flag in English prisons on the grounds that it shows the cross of St. George, which was used by the Crusaders and thus is offensive to Muslims. And no doubt he's impressed by the "sensitivity" of Burger King, which withdrew its ice cream cones from its British menus because Rashad Akhtar of High Wycombe complained that the creamy swirl shown on the lid looked like the word "Allah" in Arabic script. I don't know which sura in the Koran says don't forget, folks, it's not just physical representations of God or the Prophet but also chocolate ice cream squiggly representations of the name, but ixnay on both just to be "sensitive."

And doubtless the British foreign secretary also appreciates the "sensitivity" of the owner of France-Soir, who fired his editor for republishing the Danish cartoons. And the "sensitivity" of the Dutch film director Albert Ter Heerdt, who canceled the sequel to his hit multicultural comedy ''Shouf Shouf Habibi!'' on the grounds that "I don't want a knife in my chest" -- which is what happened to the last Dutch film director to make a movie about Islam: Theo van Gogh, on whose ''right to dissent'' all those Hollywood blowhards are strangely silent. Perhaps they're just being "sensitive,'' too.

And perhaps the British foreign secretary also admires the "sensitivity" of those Dutch public figures who once spoke out against the intimidatory aspects of Islam and have now opted for diplomatic silence and life under 24-hour armed guard. And maybe he even admires the "sensitivity" of the increasing numbers of Dutch people who dislike the pervasive fear and tension in certain parts of the Netherlands and so have emigrated to Canada and New Zealand.

Very few societies are genuinely multicultural. Most are bicultural: On the one hand, there are folks who are black, white, gay, straight, pre-op transsexual, Catholic, Protestant, Buddhist, worshippers of global-warming doom-mongers, and they rub along as best they can. And on the other hand are folks who do not accept the give-and-take, the rough-and-tumble of a "diverse" "tolerant" society, and, when one gently raises the matter of their intolerance, they threaten to kill you, which makes the question somewhat moot.

One day the British foreign secretary will wake up and discover that, in practice, there's very little difference between living under Exquisitely Refined Multicultural Sensitivity and Sharia.

wow Lisa, thank you ! what an excellent article.

joiesauvage,
Don't be disheartened, where there is a will,
there is a way. If you feel that way, then it would
be better to support Le Pen, who, for all of his many faults, appears willing to do whatever is
necessary to meet the threat to France.

I don't believe it is too late for France, and
while I have winced a lot over American/French
relations over the years, I would not be happy at
France falling. Besides, France has nukes, and if
the followers of the pedophile take over we will
need to ensure they are not used.

How are the nonmuslim French feeling lately?
They need to feel rage at the destruction of their
nation, not hopelessness!

If only it could be channeled into, say, a small software company, what an economy they'd have.
--- Mark Steyn

Islam is the largest software company on earth. To examine its source code and command structure, I refer you to the Koran, Hadiths, and Sirat.

MORE KORANS MORE HADITHS MORE SIRATS MORE MOSLEMS MORE ISLAM MO' MO!!

Bill Gates can only dream of programming 1.2 billion humans into easily manipulated agents. Mohammed had that problem nutted nearly 1,400 years ago. It was just a matter of time... and relentless breeding.

This cartoon business is win-win.

1. If the news agencies and politicians pander to the outraged Muslims, the general public (i.e., the majority of non-Muslims) gets appropriately pissed off. In the next election, this will be remembered and considered. In addition, the decision on the part of some newspapers not to print the cartoons, but nevertheless to talk about them, simply provokes people to want to see the cartoons first hand and learn more. This is basic psychology. This will cause people to learn more about Islam. Also, journalists, writers, editors, artists, are like anyone else in that they don't like being threatened and coerced with regard to what they can or cannot say. But these media people, unlike most people, are in a position of power where they can fight back, perhaps in subtle ways at first, with their opinions and expressions.

2. If news agencies and politicians do actually defend free speech, as some have, then we see that they are doing their job (e.g., protecting western civilization), we reward them, and they continue on. Meanwhile the news agencies show the cartoons, and present the Muslims' reactions all over the world to show that the cartoons were to a considerable extent correct.

NASEEM: All must now respect the right of the prophet Mohd (Pbuh) never to be blasphemed again....

No 'all' dont and 'wont' respect the Prophet. He should be blasphemed. The Prophet has no rights. And no infidel has to bow and scrape to his ghost, as you do. He is like a psychic zombie, infecting the unwary with his poisons. Only a strong dose of fly spray, right in the kisser, will nutralize those Islamic toxins. You guys got your black wind, we got Black Flag. Our black is blacker than your black...and dont you forget it...

American awwwwww !
France and America adore each other, it is the media who try to make us think the contrary. The French may get a little bit jealous from time to time because you are doing better economically and you are more powerful (don’t forget the French still think they lead the world), and they can also find that you have no taste (which is true let’s admit it) but they also admire America and no propaganda will change that.
I had written a long, detailed post to you about France vs.Islam, but I erased it accidentally... I feel a bit too lazy to rewrite it now lol.
So I will talk about something I saw on TV yesterday night, quite fabulous. It is the extreme left, or rather anarchist Philippe Val, editor of a satirical magazine called “Charlie Hebdo”... that guy is a hero and he proved it yesterday. “Charlie Hebdo” has laughed at everybody for years, at all the religions, with a fierce lack of tact and they have got many trials since they exist (which they have all won, in the name of freedom of speech and freedom of satire).

Some famous journalists had invited Philippe Val and the imam of Lyon (Lyon = a big city in France, second city in France)... what a confrontation ! Philippe Val declared:“I will publish the caricatures in the next tissue (that is: the day after tomorrow = on Wednesday). I don’t think they are great, I think they are offensive and tasteless... but as one is trying to forbid them, I HAVE TO publish them”. The imam facing him got red with anger and started explaining the usual ambiguous stuff: “We are for democracy, we are for the freedom of speech BUT.... “. Philippe Val is an extremely calm and somewhat irritating guy, let us say his own religion is “I do what I want and don’t give a damn about your old stupid middle class and religious beliefs”. Philippe Val looked like he was trying hard not to burst into laughter and had a little smile and was polite but confronting the imam like nobody would have dared (note the courage: the publication of the caricatures after all the mess and problems in the world will be considered as a real provocation –by everybody- and Val probably risks his life but visibly he does not care). The journalist said to him “don’t you fear for your life if you publish the caricatures tomorrow?”, he answered with his little smile: “well, you know, threats, threats, I got so many threats in my life” (as if to say: I don’t believe an Arab is clever enough to get me anyway!) Then the imam was getting really excited and did not make sense, because he was lost in his own contradictions (= need not to provoke the extremists but need to agree with the Western values.. a very difficult exercice especially for someone who is not at all used to media!)... poor Imam, for him it must have been a terrible time with Philippe Val. Not that the journalists around the table were not uncomfortable... So finally the imam said “it is provocation” etc. And “if you publish the caricatures, we will sue you” and Philippe Val simply said “oh yes, with pleasure, but we will will”. Then he said “but... beyond those cartoons what I am interested in is to know what you think about all those extremists, and those terrorists ? Why don’t you condemn them ?” and then “One caricature shows a link between terrorism and Islam, but it is true, the terrorists who blew up the Twin Towers said they had done it in the name of Islam, yes or not ?” The imam did not find anything to answer this one, instead he started talking about the poverty of the “youth” and the discrimination etc, and Val said “ok but I don’t see the link with the debate we are having today”. The imam was lost.

It was impressing as it was really a direct confrontation and obviously, Philippe Val (more used to the media I suppose) was better. And Val is left wing so he has the natural sympathy of the journalists and the licence to say everything he wants. And the imam really looked ridiculous in his robes and contradictions and anger.

I am waiting to see the caricatures really printed in Charlie Hebdo. If they are, I’ll subscribe and make 10 people around me subscribe.... and I am not exreme left ! But from now on, I can tell you that I will give credit to everything this guys says.

It is a shame that all the newspapers around the world don’t have the courage of Philippe Val. They should all print the caricatures, “just because it is unacceptable one tries to forbid them” as he said... it has to be noted that Philippe Val has already been sued for having caricatured the Prophet, a long time ago... and that he won !

The French opinion is changing... I was astounded to hear a left wing commentator say “Le Pen was right when he said that...”.... unbelievable ! A real cultural revolution. So I tend to be more optimistic than usual. After all, the fanatics who want to dominate the world have what to sell ? Only their violence and obvious hysteria. Who will buy it ?

Ok sorry for the long post.... and the mistakes in English.

actually philippe val is a very interesting character... he must be the only person in france to support GW Bush, however, he is very left wing / anarchist, critical of Islam, which tends to irritate everybody in his own camp... his position concerning the caricatures does not surprise me at all.

it is too late for france, we have too many muslims. They are already starting to impose their sharia, first step: "freedom of speech, go to hell".
Posted by: joiesauvage [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 6, 2006 02:33 PM\\

joiesauvage its never to late, you know where they live, you out number them.. they can get booted out real easy.

ESCARGO WON’T GO! GIVE ME THE PORK RIBS

"find that you have no taste (which is true let’s admit it)"

-Joiesauvage

LOL, no comment from me friend. We are just are a nation that is at times a little bit excessive, but isn’t it great? I’ll make a deal with you. I will admit that we lack French taste if you admit what you would rather eat if offered two dishes. So come on, would you rather have a nice big filling plate of (American style) slow cooked pork (yes especially pork) ribs slathered in barbeque sauce with a side of messy corn on the cob and some German potato salad, or would you rather have a plate of a few “exquisitely prepared” (buttered) snails? I will go vote with my feet monsieur! I’ve been to France a few times rarely and if I am not eating at a friend’s house, I almost always at a “country” restaurant there! So how do YOU vote?

Enjoy!

Kafir,

I believe Joiesauvage, when referring to an American's lack of taste, was bemoaning the fact that American's import far more Italian wine than French wine, and for good reason. There is nothing better to cuddle up with than a soft supple seductive Dolcetto d'Alba.

I purchase California products usually to support our state farmers. I prefer to buy Californian because, not only does it benefit our economy, our products are good and well priced (except for Avocados $$). So it's Californian wines for me usually. However, for special occasions, like on New Years Eve, I pop bottles of Moet, but does that even count? California "sparking wine" would work just fine too! The rest of the time I am partial to California wines -not that I drink often - and other California products like our cheese, pistachios (not from Iran) and oranges etc. Additionally, the selection of affordable California wines at places like Trader Joes is great in my state.

I forgot to mention that since Denmark is boycotted, havarti is now my new joy. I found that cubes of Havarti go down well even with a cold Tuborg while sitting reading JW/DW. Its warm out now. The Santa Anas are blowing. My fig tree, which produces "Mission" black figs nearly year round, is starting to grow (after a slumber of 4 weeks. There will be more avocados in back and peaches in June I believe. Presently, it's 78 degrees outside, if only I didn't have a cold I would be outside! Maybe when I have figs again in a few weeks, I will celebrate with a bottle of French wine.

P.S. Or I can always buy a French wine just to make Joiesauvage happy!

The BBC is funded by government through the Foreign Office, of which Jack Straw is the Secretary. The BBC in its News and Current Affairs section, is thus really an arm of the government.

The government sees that the ME is a region that is going to be in major turmoil for the forseeable future, and what with oil and the fact that the US and the UK are increasingly going to be called on to militarily intervene in that area, it is no surprise that the BBC has swung its limited resources to that region - or has been told to. Likewise the established Church of England. When the government changes its policy towards islam, so will both these institutions.

I raised the pro-islam bias of the BBC several years ago on LGF- almost immediately after 9/11. I do not believe that all decision makers in the BBC are enamoured with islam or are afraid. They are doing what has been set for them by the FO, which itself gets its orders from 10 Downing St. I can think of no real answer except the above.

It is also worth noting that the countries that have not published the cartoons are US, UK and Australia - the three stoutest defenders of freedom of expression. And the very same that have sizeable contigents in Iraq and Afghanistan. If these countries published the cartoons as European nations or New Zealand, it will further endanger the lives of our soldiers, and may even jeopardise the entire military operation - with the inevitable crowing from the muslim world that the Allies had been defeated. All pronouncements of the BBC and the FO need to be considered in that light, that we have our soldiers doing a very difficult job, in a war whose strategic goal is deliberately blurred.

Now Hugh and many others, including myself have decried the folly of the Iraq intervention. In fact I believe that we should not get involved with muslim states at all, as it only brings grief as we try to accomodate their demands. In my view, separation from the islamic world is the best for all concerned. Regrettably, that is not going to take place. We are now in the ME and withdrawal under fire will give great encouragement to the islamists. They will crow that they defeated one super-power, and as OBL predicted, they have defeated the remaining super-power, the US. For good or ill, we are now involved in the ME for a long time, and our only way out is with total victory.

DP111,

In this bastion of social liberalism (and I would not live anywhere else), known as the San Francisco Bay Area, the some of the MSM has published the cartoons,as well as the "Kill the Infidel" signs in the protests. This has had the effect of making it glaringly obvious to viewers that the the mandatory Islamic spokesperson stuttering "but, but, Islam is a religion of peace" has no basis to support that claim.

Even of the MSM here that did not show the cartoons, the excuse was that publication now would only be gratutitous since they are so widely available, their websites did provide the links. The "this is not Islam crowd" has lost a lot of credibility since the MSM has yet to show positive examples of the peaceful side of Islam, despite its best efforts.

These riots against free speech have awoken a sleeping, well maybe, midget. More and more people I am acquainted with, including my own partner, are realizing that Islam is just not another creed in the fabric of religions but something far more insidious. Even my local Hindu shopkeeper and I have had some very long conversations on how creeping Islamism has destroyed the fabric of society in his home town.

It is becoming less a right vs. left or Republican vs. Democrat, or even atheist vs. Christian issue here. As concluded the editorial in the Sunday San Francisco Chronicle (see my post above for the full text and link):

No law, of state or religion, should be allowed to become the ultimate arbiter of freedom of expression.

Kafir,

No need to tell me of the fine qulaity of California produce, products and wine. Enjoy a Carneros Chardonnay, a Russian River Pinot Noir, a Shenandoah Valley Old Vine Zinfadel, a Sonoma Sauvignon Blanc, a Barbera from Paso Robles, and the grand-daddy of them all, the Napa Valley Cabernet. Cheeses from Marin and Sonoma grace our table. In a few months, we will be enjoying the drives to the fresh produce stands in the fruit orchards. Hot mud baths and massages in Calistoga to follow.

... the mandatory Islamic spokesperson stuttering "but, but, Islam is a religion of peace" has no basis to support that claim.

This bullcrap claim derives from the way word roots work in Arabic, which is generally to flesh out a series of three consonants with vowels to make a word from the root.

The root slm is shared by the words Islam and salam. The latter of the two indeed means peace in Arabic.

Moslem apologists seized on the shared root to foist the myth on gullible Westerners that Islam somehow meant peace. It doesn't and didn't. It is established beyond any credible argument that in the 7th century Islam meant either surrender or submission, take your pick. Either definition is very bad news to those who love freedom.

By the twisted logic of the Moslem apologists, the English words loving and loveless carry the same meaning because they're both based on the word root love.

Did I say twisted logic? Well, we are talking Moslems here, so that's understandable.

Lisa-

Try a nice Simi Cabernet Sauvignon (a smidgeon pricier than most decent Cal reds, but worth it) or a Smothers Brothers Remick Ridge Merlot (no funny aftertaste, either). For a nice white, the Fume Blanc by Berringer is always a treat! And, if you want to get bubbly, try the Piper Sonoma Brut, Select Cuvee.

All guaranteed haram.

And delicious!

Especially with a selection of some scrumptuous Danish Havarti cheeses.

Wish I were out there to watch the gliders silently slipping over the majestic hills of Sonoma once again!

Toss a cork or two in the Russian River for me!

After a little stutter the DT is back
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The Metropolitan Police certainly seems selective in its "softly, softly" approach to dealing with protests. Only 17 months ago, before the rule of the present Commissioner, some of its officers zealously cracked the heads of protesters from the notoriously dangerous group of psychopaths otherwise known as the pro-foxhunting lobby.

The main offence perpetrated by these people appeared to be shouting, wearing tweeds in a public place, and waving placards saying that they didn't like Mr Blair or his Bill very much.

Maybe Sir Ian, now he is in charge, would have his officers be as mild towards them as they were towards those who openly incited murder on Friday, and who took an infant out on the protest with them wearing a hat inscribed with the entirely reasonable statement "I love al-Qaida".
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/02/07/do0701.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2006/02/07/ixopinion.html

Lisa

The SF journal has printed the cartoons but it really too late as far this tempest is concerned. It is now merely gratuitous and serves no real purpose.

If UK and US papers had published the cartoons immediately then what would have inflamed Iraqis and Afghanis and made their entire societies violently against us. This would have made our task virtually impossible and withdrawal would have been the only option left.

Then the entire muslim world and OBL would have been shouting that they had defeated the Infidel Crusader invasion, "allahu akhbar". They had destroyed one superpower USSR and islam had allah had destroyed the remaining superpower. The Jihad would have been invigorated no end and we would be back to the drawing board.

Much though I hate the idea that we are unable to separate from the muslim world, we have not much choice now but to continue till victory is ours, even though the financial and social costs are huge. The alternative is withdrawal, that is defeat and that is out of the question.

As long as most Western news outlets defiantly show the cartoons and reject dhimmitude, then it's fine---BBC and CNN can be in the minority, and have the "trust" of Arabs, and hence access to Arab countries. We infidels need to know what's going on INSIDE the Arab world. The big picture is more important than this or that news outlet.

I have a old bone to pick with the BBC. But it may be slightly reminiscent of BBC policy towards the cartoon affair.
During the Holocaust, the BBC reported it while it was ongoing just a very few times. Hence, people in the Nazi-occupied zones, even Jews in hiding, who depended for news on the BBC, did not learn about the scope of the Holocaust from the bbc.
This led to the tragic suicide of Shmul Zigelboym, "Comrade Artur," a representative of the Jewish Workers League of Poland, who was attached to the Polish Govt in Exile in London. Zigelboym had pleaded with the BBC to report on what was happening in Poland and with the UK govt to help the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto, etc. He was told that they would help those who were fighting. When the Warsaw Ghetto uprising broke out, he came back to the UK govt and asked for help for those fighting. But nothing changed in London. He committed suicide in protest in London during the uprising.

now it seems that the bbc isn't sure if it's on the side of the British.

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El Cid, Friedns from JW/DW,
You might find this interesting - the Polish daily "Reczpospolita" printed 2 of those cartoons on Saturday. The Polish Muslim Council not later than yesterday was threatening to take the paper to court (where are my peaceful polonized Polish Tatars gone? With the wind of Saudi Arabia, where they go to train themselves to be good Muslims!) unless the chief editor apologizes on the front page of his paper every day for a week in BIG BOLD letters! What cheeks! In fact he did apologize verbally, but only for "hurting" the feelings of the Muslims, but stating that he would do the same again and that his intention was Solidarity with Denmark, in other words he did it the JPost's dignified manner. Today the Polish Muslims started retreating - there was so much pressure on the government and media, people sighing petitions in defence of the newspaper etc. The editor was being pressurized to resign (by the co-op owning the paper), but he declared that he has no intention of doing so!

http://serwisy.gazeta.pl/kraj/1,34308,3151450.html
http://gospodarka.gazeta.pl/gospodarka/1,33181,3150673.html

(above and below is the brave editor Grzegorz Gauden under attack - he looks worried)

http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/1,53600,3149750.html

Looks like the BBC showed the cartoons specifically with the purpose to apologize afterwards.

That's waht you call strategic thinking!

Eliyahu.... the story you tell in your post (Warsaw Ghetto and the BBC) is very sad.

Don't know if they will read it but i muwt answer to Kafir Nonbeliever and Lisa about the very important matter of taste:

"would you rather have a nice big filling plate of (American style) slow cooked pork (yes especially pork) ribs slathered in barbeque sauce with a side of messy corn on the cob and some German potato salad, or would you rather have a plate of a few “exquisitely prepared” (buttered) snails?"

I will answer like the BBC: errrrr....

I think snails are disgusting and I am against the idea of torturing little animals like that (same for frogs). I have never eaten them, and I don't eat foie gras either. But the American dish you depict (slow cooked pork etc) seems also disgusting to me...

So I answer: I will not eat tonight !

But if I REALLY had to choose, I'd choose the American dish...

Lisa you are right, Italian wines are superb.

The Americans lack taste but they don't lack courage and actually, I prefer courage to taste.