My dear friend Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on American Islamic Relations displays his Islamic moderation on PBS (thanks to Summiter):
ABERNETHY: What about aid to Hamas or the people in the Palestinian territories? What do you make of that?Mr. HOOPER: Well, I think we need not to be seen as sabotaging a democratic election that was overwhelmingly in favor of a certain party. And I think we need to give any new government the opportunity to provide basic services to end corruption and to fulfill the national aspirations of the Palestinian people.
ABERNETHY: But isn't it against American law to give any foreign aid to a terrorist organization?
Mr. HOOPER: Yeah. It seems that it may be against the law to do that. But there are other avenues, through NGOs and other ways, to accomplish the goal. But right now we're going around the world saying strangle the new government. And I don't think that's the message we want to send.
So you are in support of the Hamas movement, which has celebrated its murders of Israeli civilians, Mr. Hooper? Is that the message you want to send?
So let me get this straight;
If we help support a terrorist government, than we will reduce the terrorist attacks on us by fulfilling the national aspirations of the Palestinian people?
And do we really have to ask what those national aspirations are? ----"DOUBLE TALK"
The deadly costs of appeasement to these desert people. And who better to interview that tubby hooper, a spokesman for a hamas front
Hooper and the whole CAIR group could not care less about the U.S. except as a fertile ground for radical Islamic invasion.
Exactly the words of Jimmy Carter,to a T.
Double talking,lying,hyppocritical,anti-American traitors.
He should have also quoted Algore about the unbelievable cruel and unfair treatment of muslims in America and Clinton`s suggestion that the publishers of the mohamad cartoons be punished and make it even more obvious that the left and radical islam have the same goal:destroy America,destroy the west by any means possible.
Is Hooper english? I'm dating an English man (the apple of my eye) Is he 1st generation, 2nd generation British ? Where do these things come from?
I thought "iHoop" (the hypothetical product of an Apple-CAIR deal) was American. By birth, at least. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Hooper
I bet his mother still calls him "Doug."
Well, it looks like we are going to continue giving millions to the palis even with a terrorist organization leading them.I just don't understand how we can keep giving all this money to moslems who wish us and our allies harm.Will we ever learn????
Mr. HOOPER: This is an international company that has facilities all over the world. The UAE is a stable ally supporting us in the war on terror. They've agreed to all kinds of safeguards. I don't feel any less safe with having this company [headquartered] thousands of miles away employing American longshoremen to load and unload ships, and having cargo still screened by the DHS [Dept. of Homeland Security] and the Coast Guard still watching the ports. It doesn't bother me at all, and I live here.
--from the article
It seems that even American converts don't think of themselves as Americans first but members of the ummah. Why did he not say "It doesn't bother me at all, and I'm an American"? One wonders.
Being an American, Hoops is a good taqiyya master and he knows what Americans want to hear about the Muslim community within their midst. That the Muslims "support the war on terror" and that Muhammad "turned the other cheek". Of course he will not support these statements with any actual data because he knows that the dhimmiwits interviewing him are ignorant about Islam and they will take him at his word. Playing the soft spoken victim always helps. But in future interviews people should try to ask him the tough questions about CAIR's ties to terror and see him change from the docile Muslim into the childish angry Muslim, much like what happened on Mychal Massie's radio program when Hoops slammed the phone on him. Let's see more of that.
Peopole of the "West" need to keep repeating, Hammas is a terrorist organization, committed to the kiling of civilians, and no money goes to these organizations! If they think by voting in Hammas was a practices of their democracy, well the can also face that they have made a choice with the devil, and deal with it themsevles. No Money for Hammas!
l was dismayed at hearing on talk radio to Michael Savage, saying how Mohmmad would be upset at seeing his religion being used by terrorists! of all people, l thought he would at least know that Mohammad was a terrorist!
I think i. hooper should publically wet his pants, and take the first steam boat to the middle east from where he came.
I told my wife that I was going to send money to support the terrorist organization HAMAS. This got her attention, and then a wry smile.
She listened patiently while I explained that it is evident that our wise and wonderful state department has itself in a pickle over the election of hamas candidates in Paleo-stine, and is now squirming over how to support them without supporting them. Of course, she already understood this, but listened anyway because she recognized this as the "set-up" which it was.
"I can't express my outrage in any effective law-abiding way and still be heard on this." I continued. "So I'm going to leverage my influence and let my government speak for me. I'm writing a letter to Condi Rice and enclosing a check made out jointly to her and Hamas. I'm telling her that I support whatever actions my government wants to take, and that I assume we (as a country) are going to be sending money to the Palestinian Authority, now made up of a Hamas majority."
"Or course, I am offering my own contribution to the cause, and Condi can endorse my check and pay it over to Hamas along with the United States' contribution. I want to cover myself legally by stating up front that I don't want to contribute to a terrorist organization, but the the State Department can be trusted to find a way around this problem for me, making everything legal, and I just want my money to go along for the legal ride."
"I figure twenty-five bucks is enough to cause some flunkies to have to send a memo to other flunkies, and, who knows, maybe they will send my check back with a form letter or something." I ventured. "And maybe I'll actually get the check back with Condi's signature and some bank stamps from New York, Paris, and Nablus" I thought, hopefully. "Naturally, I have to plan for the possibility of there being a sharp flunkie, who will just toss it in the trash and act like they never received it. So, I'm gonna do what good lawyers do, and send it Certified Mail. What do you think."
She looked at me for a while, then said, "OK. I like it. Use the joint account. And don't forget to take out the trash."
Michael Savage is a coward. Yes, he's the right-wing radio talk show host who bellows about his great courage, but in that sense he's like his favorite fake religion, a belief system based on hate and murder and war that terms itself the religion of peace.
Now that the Moslems have promised to kill him, look for the Savage Nation to be doing some serious public pronation. A disgrace to the Jewish race, is what he is.
MSNBC really miscalculated when they fired this loser. He was perfect for them.
Alarmed Pig Farmer -
This is news. I was not aware that the muslims had threatened Michael Savage - though, it stands to reason.
I would say that, on net, Michael is very much on our side. He does, however, slip into attempting to discriminate between the "moderate" muslims and the "radical" ones periodically. Experience will cure this misconception. Many of us are becoming cured.
The concept of the "moderate" muslim is akin to the concept of a "good" Nazi. Both concepts are naive and anti-historical.
CAIR needs to be dealt with or else you will see riots on your streets like Oldham and Bradford and your police too terrified to even ask politely for them to not display placards which state "death to Infidels".
Hooper is nothing but an overweight pig with a lot of hot air. He cannot argue his religion with anyone who has differing views so he acts like a child and claims bigotry.
I did not hear about Michael Savage getting a hit put on him by the Mooselums. It's hard to put up with his screaming theatrics and he is a little over the fence sometimes. I have always thought he was a little light on the Mooselums as he says there are the moderates who are being slighted by the terrorists. Please, Michael, they all think you and I are infidels and want us converted or dead. Period.
Back to the Mooselums.....Pretty soon the Mooselums will have to have a big ass book to keep up with all the hits their tent goons have put out. Bring 'em on. The more they do this kind of crap the more the world will wake up. I would like to believe that what is happening in Iraq is the beginning of the next Crusade against the aggressions of Islam and its followers. The Infidels of the world may be awakening once again as they did with the previous Crusades. Perhaps the next Crusade, when it comes as it is bound to happen, will wipe this insidious religion off the map of the world. We can only hope.
The way to end the sqabbling over the damaged mosques is to destroy all of them. Follow it up by hosting an Iraq-wide koran burning.
We can never provoke muslims into self-examination while feigning respect for their backward superstitions. I hold islam and muslims in utter contempt.
No muslims; No mosques; No ports.
(That's right; the enemy does not sit at our table.)
Number one, stop calling the arab population of the area palestinian.
number 2, they aspire to destroy israel and i have no desire to assist them..
number 3, they desire to implement sharia across the board.
Every time Hooper appears, or anyone else from CAIR, he should be asked one question:
How will CAIR be honoring Naseem Khan, the Muslim-Americna who helped the FBI catch those two would-be terrorists in Lodi, California? And will it be honoring him with a special dinner, a medal, or what? And how will CAIR be getting the word out to Muslims all over America that this is the kind of thing they should all be doing, as they loyally participate, as loyal Americans, in their loyal fight to defend the United States of America from all enemies, foreign and domestic, as they are sworn to do?
We will all be waiting for the answer, whenever and wherever the representatives of CAIR, or any other Muslim group, appear.
Hugh-
Love that last question for CAIR - ever since 9/11 I have waited and waited and waited for shocked all-American Moslems to pour into the streets of Dearborn Michigan or New York City to proclaim their love of this country and tell the world - "we are not these terrorist monsters". It never happened.
From the PBS intwerview,
ABERNETHY: CAIR, your organization, has announced a campaign to educate the rest of us about the Prophet Muhammad and Islam. What do you most want people like me to know?
Mr. HOOPER: Well, I think we want to portray an accurate image of the Prophet Muhammad. Often he's portrayed as a violent person, someone who preached supremacy of Islamic beliefs and all of these kinds of things. When the Prophet himself was attacked and abused during his lifetime, he turned the other cheek.
Islam is indeed a tolerant faith:
Q.9: 29
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Islam allows freedom of conscience as Mohammad says:
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 260:
"Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.'"
And Mohammad tolerated criticism and condemned violence against those who would freely criticize him:
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4348
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:
"A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was informed about it.
He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.
He sat before the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.
Thereupon the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood."
He was especially tolerant of Jews who criticized him:
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4349
Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:
"A Jewess used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) declared that no recompense was payable for her blood."
Mohammad was very much against inflicting physical harm:
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4396
Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
"A thief was brought to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him). He said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah! Then he said: Cut off his hand. So his (right) hand was cut off. He was brought a second time and he said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah! Then he said: Cut off his foot. So his (left) foot was cut off. He was brought a third time and he said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah! So he said: Cut off his hand. (So his (left) hand was cut off.) He was brought a fourth time and he said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah!
So he said: Cut off his foot. So his (right) foot was cut off. He was brought a fifth time and he said: Kill him. So we took him away and killed him. We then dragged him and cast him into a well and threw stones over him.
A true man of peace, he was even kind to drunks,
Book 38, Number 4474:
Narrated AbdurRahman ibn Azhar:
"I saw the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) on the morning of the conquest of Mecca when I was a young boy. He was walking among the people, seeking the camp of Khalid ibn al-Walid. A man who had drunk wine was brought (before him) and he ordered them (to beat him). So they beat him with what they had in their hands. Some struck him with whips, some with sticks and some with sandals. The Apostle of Allah(peace_be_upon_him) threw some dust on his face."
Inter: But Mr Hooper you just said it was against the law and then you advicate circumventing the law.
Mr Hooper: Yes CAIR has been doing that for years now. Opps maybe I shouldn't have said that!
Israel and the West should definitely withhold all financial and even humanitarian aid that frees up monies for making Hamas stronger. Even if Hamas promises to behave (it will always wish Israel’s destruction if only as a matter of their religion) aid should be denied since otherwise it would constitute reward to a terrorist organization for heading a government after it’s suicide bombings and other terror attacks have failed to achieve their goals.
Don’t reward terrorists ever – that message must be clear. The Palestinian will be destitute but too bad; they overwhelmingly chose to be terrorist supporters. Israel should keep its walls high and its powder dry - Israel owes it's enemies nothing.
This is from the Hamas website: http://tinyurl.com/qehzl
I can't believe the USA is sending them money.
CAIR and Hooper wouldn't be a problem if PBS and other media outlets actually did their jobs. How can you schedule an interview with someone and not do research on who your talking to?!?! It would take exactly 1 hour to find out all one needs to know about CAIR and who's running their show. Shame on PBS on all other "journalists" who don't care to investigate and report the truth.
Ibrahim Goering-
Ibrahim Hooper. Frankly, I've seen him a number of times on television, and there is something repellant about him. He reminds me of Herman Goering. There are qualities in his face, his personality, that are similar to Goering. Maybe it's the similar opportunism, deceitfulness, the arrogance, the smugness-or just that both are fat, but Ibrahim Hooper and Herman Goering are cut from the same creepy cloth. I'll bet he hates Jews, too.
Of course, what I say here might offend Herr Hopper, but it's not incitement.
"But right now we're going around the world saying strangle the new government. And I don't think that's the message we want to send." (Mohammed Hooper the idiot)
Why can't the "new government" just tax it's people into the dirt like every other country on earth? Why should we or anyone else outside their "country" (i.e. the land they stole from the Jews) send those land-grabbing demon-worshipping freaks money?
"...we're going around the world saying strangle the new government..."
Couldn't have put it better myself!
That's just the message I want to send.
Like the infant Herakles with the poisonous serpents in his crib.
Thanks Mr. Hoppity Hooper!
http://cairforterrorists.blogspot.com/
I'm losing hope, truly. Look at the BBC forum comments on whether Hamas should be accepted, whether Hamas will accept Israel, and the majority of people truly seem to believe that
1. Hamas is OK really - they were freedom fighters, not terrorists, and now they'll be coming 'round anyway. Any violence was all Israel's fault.
2. Hamas was democratically elected and therefore should be accepted by the west (huh? all countries make or refuse friendship with other countries depending on their interests, democratic or not).
3. If Hamas said they'd accept Israel, well all would be fine then because we could trust Hamas.
Are the BBC forum comments truly indicative of opinions and percentages they are held by?
Actually, I think Israel should be more outspoken in the world media. Israel knows the truth about what its neighbours want to do to it - why not tell it like it is, repeately?
Michael Savage is a coward. Yes, he's the right-wing radio talk show host who bellows about his great courage, but in that sense he's like his favorite fake religion, a belief system based on hate and murder and war that terms itself the religion of peace.
Now that the Moslems have promised to kill him, look for the Savage Nation to be doing some serious public pronation. A disgrace to the Jewish race, is what he is.
MSNBC really miscalculated when they fired this loser. He was perfect for them.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer
APF
That's quite a turn-about for you. That said, given his rudeness and ranting, I've generally hated him, but recently, he has been the only host I can stand. Rush doesn't discuss Islam at all, Sean Hannity, when he does exit his cult followers and activities, keeps grovelling over moderate Muslims (something that his buddy North recognizes doesn't exist), Michael Medved makes the right points but insists on taking calls from Mohammedan fanatics rather than from callers who would make a better argument that he's understating his case, thereby making his shows painful to listen to.
I'm however a bit surprised that Muslims threatened Savage. If I was one of his political enemies, I'd simply sit back and let him rant. Listening to him, one would think that Liberalism and Islamo-fascism (as he calls it) is a good thing, which is only opposed by hate-filled hosts such as him.
No, the best is the local guys here - Lee Rodgers and Melanie Morgan, who have on quite a few occasions hosted Robert. I'm surprised that they haven't invited him on more recently - with the DPA deal, the Danish cartoons, the Hamas funding - so many live topics to talk about without sounding like an Islam-centric episode.
IP,
You're right about Medved. He takes calls from wacked out Muslims (seems like an even split between immigrants and black American converts) who shout that Islam is a religion of peace, religion of peace, religion of peace, religion of peace) but I've never heard him quote from the Qur'an or hadith or sira to challenge them.
If you try to call his show, what the screener is looking for is someone to disagree with Medved, rather than a caller with any knowledge about the subject.
Macondo5 - Who says PBS and the other MSM outlets don't do their research? I think they do and still persist of giving these 'soft' interviews - knowing full well what kind of organization CAIR is and how it support HAMAS.
And don't forget the BBC selects the comments shown on its forum. In fact i wouldn't put it past them to make some up.
Having never had the displeasure of seeing what Hooper looks like, I have to say the description of him being obese summoned up a favoured line of the late Godfrey Cambridge, a black stand-up comedian of the 1960s, who was quite obese:
"If you think I'm fat, that's because you're prejudiced."
Perhaps that's why Hooper decided to take refuge in Mohammed's cult.
Here is Doug Hooper's picture.
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/Pictures/Persons/036459/036459-187542-04.jpg