From Ireland Online:
A Pakistani cleric offered a 1.5 million rupee (€28,000) reward and a car for anyone who kills the cartoonist who drew Prophet Mohammed.Another Islamist leader was put under house detention, amid fears of more deadly demonstrations today, officials said.
The cleric did not name the cartoonist, and several cartoonists submitted images to the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten, which first published them.
We need more cartoons...
We need polit-props with balls.
We need reporters with balls.
we need MSM with balls.
Is that too much to ask?
What are you then?
Chickens#*t or suckers for Islam?
Murder for personal gain. Thats slightly different (not much) than murder for a religious principal.. It is nothing more than contract murder.
Where does this 'cleric' get all that reward 'loot' in the first place. It is not likely that he earned it, and the reward is out of his own pocket. And he has enough loot to buy a car and give it away as well??? He must be a well to do 'cleric'.
To call these priests of the beast 'clerics', gives the word 'clergy' a bad name.
From Dictionary.com: Word History: Cleric, clerk, and clark all come from Latin clricus, “a man in a religious order, a man in holy orders.” Cleric appears in Old English about 975 and lasts into the 13th century. Clerc appears in late Old English, around 1129, and was identical in spelling and pronunciation with Old French clerc, “belonging to the (Christian) clergy.”
There's more to this history.
Another muslim theft from Christianity and the west. Or maybe muslims dont refer to themselves as clerics, but I dont hear them objecting, when refered to as that by the western press. The word 'cleric' makes them sound legitimate. In a way the definition fits, as Priests of the Beast, they must emulate their god, who said, loot is good, loot is lawful. So in Islam, a thieving 'cleric' is not only permitted, it's encouraged. From above: “a man in a religious order, a man in holy orders.”
There is a distiction to be made here. A religious man in a particular religion, may act like Blackbeard the pirate and still claim religion. A holy man, in a holy order, wont, and cant, act in such a manner.
This shows that Islam is not a Holy religion and Islamic 'clerics' are not Holy men.
They are Priests in the order of the Beast. Gross materialism...a dept run by himself, who shall remain nameless, but his name spelled backward is NATAS.
What make and model car?
January Man-
A Ford Pinto, in case the new owner even wants to back up into an offending object real fast.
(Those exploding gas tanks were clearly an early engineering nod to the future Islamic desire for a vehicle that you don't need to add any aftermarket ordnance to.)
If I hit the Powerball lottery tomorrow, I'll gladly offer $1 million for anyone who can capture this cleric, videotape him in a lacey pink bra and frilly panties singing "I'm a little teapot", and then broadcast the tape on the internet.
Then release him into the loving arms of his Pakistani community (dressed as Ronald McDonald, of course).
25000 euro's? what the fuck that going to do? why dont you just guy him an SUV
Since we are at war with Islamists, how about a little street justice for this fool.
Imams, clerics, should be targeted. There must be a santion for incitement.
For this cleric to ~ 'name the cartoonist'
Would have required too much thought ~
It is far more easier to say -
'KILL THEM!!'
All for the small price of 1.5 million rupees!
And would it be too much trouble to ask - was this a 'fatwa' or a 'hit'?
ROTFL, though I'm not sure that I really want this visual in my head too much longer.
One vote for the pink lacy bra and panties!
Check out this animated cartoon entitled
" This is your brain on Islam"
http://www.novatv.nl/index.cfm?ln=nl&fuseaction=artikelen.details&achtergrond_id=8350&CFID=2735238&CFTOKEN=57221010
These mafia dons in turbans should be assassinated.
You get a much better deal in Afganistan. The Taliban is offering a 100kg of gold bounty for killing one of the Danish cartoonists. That's about $1.9 million USD.
what is the price for the mulims who drew up the "fake muhammad cartoon being being serviced by the dog", surely that is worth a bit more?
http://www.zipperfish.net/free/yaafm12.php
Muslims are morons that is more or less the title of the above video.
http://maniacmuslim.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6367
Re: Cleric offers reward for killing Prophet cartoonist
Several years ago I saw an Abbott and Costello skit where Bud and Lou run into Mr. Bachagalupe on a street corner. Bud Abbott and Mr. Bachagalupe begin to converse about the day, small talk about the weather, etc. Down the block comes 200+ lb. "Stinky" (Joe Besser), dressed like a little kid with a beanie propeller on his head.
As Bud and Mr. Bachagalupe are talking, Stinky punches Lou (really hard) on the shoulder, then punches Lou so hard in the stomach that Costello falls to the ground. A dazed Lou collects himself, picks himself off the sidewalk, and proceeds to attempt to defend himself against Stinky. But every time Lou tries to defend himself, Stinky yells that he's only a harmless kid, he's just playing, and that Lou is a bully. Bud and Bachagalupe agree.
But as Bud and Bachagalupe continue talking, in the background Stinky continues to beat the daylights out of Lou.
Guys like the Muslim Cleric remind me of Stinky, as Abbot and Bachagalupe play the PC crowd. But the Muslim Cleric who wants to kill a cartoonist isn't funny and the PC crowd aren't funny either.
Coda to the telling tale of Baciagaluppi (as I think it might have been spelled in the script)above: Alas, we do indeed know Who's On First.
Maybe I have a warped point of view as I do not live in some enlightened Islamic country, but I would suppose I might be subject to prosecution for a crime if I were to put a price on the head of the President of Iran. I know if someone were to accept my offer by delivering said head to me, I would be guilty of 1st degree murder.
I guess in Afganistan or Pakistan or some other stan, it would only be a civil matter. If you murdered the cartoonists and didnt get paid, I guess you would be able to sue for breach of contract using the cartoonist's head as evidence.
"Where does this 'cleric' get all that reward 'loot' in the first place. It is not likely that he earned it, and the reward is out of his own pocket. And he has enough loot to buy a car and give it away as well??? "
Why from the Zarat tax fund of course!! "It's fully funded by the "religion of peace" and the moderates who come and pray to it's god, who is situated down below. It's a bad thing to pray to the God above, if a muslim where to do that, the god below will snatch your eyes.
(The hadith: Muslim vol.1,nos 863 chapter CLXXIII:
"it is forbidden to lift ones eyes toward the sky in prayer". Abu Huraira reported Allah's Apostle saying: " People should avoid lifting their eyes towards the sky while supplicating [ To make a humble, earnest petition; beg.]in prayer, otherwise their eyes would be snatched away.)
Since only Islam, therefore Muslims believe that killing the offender is justified according to their religion, then they should all kill themselves. They are all guilty of blastphemy of the Lord every time they read their koran, print nasty pictures in Islamic papers on a daily basis insulting God, (The Christian and Jewish God is the same God as theirs they insist)
So, all muslims should, immediately and without delay, Take a long walk of a short pier.(or high cliff, a suitible end for Islamic lemmings)
Frank...at one time in Lou Costello's career, he was a prize fighter. In real life it would have been hard to beat him up...
"what is the price for the Muslims who drew up the "fake muhammad cartoon being being serviced by the dog", surely that is worth a bit more?"
Posted by: Lulu
That's a good question. He deliberately drew 3 or 4 "cartoons" himself, extremely insulting, much more so than anything depicting the TRUTH about Muhammad. Muhammad did preach terrorism, but he didn't let dogs have anal sex with him. Now THAT was insulting.
Why isn't there a fatwa on this Muslim? Surely, if Muslim clerics feel a fatwa on the Dutch cartoonists is justified, then to show how FAIR and JUST Islam is, how islam does not DISCRIMINATE simply because the guy is muslim, this guy should face a public stoning to death for his crimes against the (un)holy prophet.
Let's hear it CAIR lurkers, call a fatwa on the guy!
I know if someone were to accept my offer by delivering said head to me, I would be guilty of 1st degree murder.
I guess in Afganistan or Pakistan or some other stan, it would only be a civil matter. If you murdered the cartoonists and didnt get paid, I guess you would be able to sue for breach of contract using the cartoonist's head as evidence.
Posted by: GrimReaperxxx
I believe it is a crime in the country where these cartooists live. The guy didn't have to mention names, everyone know who he is talking about.
It is a crime under international law perhaps??
The Cleric should be either delivered to Norway and be prosecuted there for his crime, or maybe taken to the Hague and tried for his crime there.
It's a very real threat, and it demands justice be served.
Of course, muslims only cry "international law" when it suits them.
I hope this isn't just swept aside, but persued vigorously.
Muhammad did preach terrorism, but he didn't let dogs have anal sex with him.
Mohammed hated dogs. He also had a major hangup with Jewesses in wigs. But the sacred Hadiths makes no mention of wig-wearing dogs, that woulda sent Allah's Apostle right over the edge.
This feeble minded and immature "cleric" needs to take the diaper off of his head, and put it on his ass where it belongs, after a public spanking. All because of a few cartoons.
Is the government of Pakistan going to arrest this man for encouraging murder? If it is not going to do so, why not? And why, in that case, should the Western world continue to believe that Pakistan could ever, conceivably, be held to inhabit the same moral universe as that West?
... should the Western world continue to believe that Pakistan could ever, conceivably, be held to inhabit the same moral universe as that West?
Swap in the word "Moslems" for Pakistan in this statement and we're on our way.
Make sure they catch anyone that tries and make an example of them. I'm thinking the Blood Eagle would be a suitable punishment.
Note to Mullahmasher. As to the identity of the Judeo/Christian and Muslim Gods, One Hand Clapping makes a persuasive argument ( and he's an ordained minister ) that Jehovah/Ha Shem and Allah are not in fact one and the same. This begs the question as to where Allah is actually resident. Christians and Jews look skyward, Muslims look down. I believe this is indicative of something.
IBM
I wonder what happend to the courage of the MSM. I mean, many journalist happily travel to warzones to cover the events, very often they are in life threatening situations. But they dare not show a few cartoons?!? I don't get it, I really just don't get it. The probability of being killed in a warzone must be a magnitude greater than this. I mean Salman is still alive, and he's had a death sentence on his head for a very long time.
I'm not mad, I'm dissapointed!
Well this is certainly nothing new...sadly.
It's meant to spread fear and hate. Why to go Cleric guy.
The lack of any outside ideas or thinking about anything other than what you are told to think since you were a little girl or boy is tantamount to blasphemy in itself. And sadly we have twenty years of old men telling young people how to think. Koran memorized numbed hate filled minds. I dislike fundamentalism whatever shape color or religion it thinks it represents.
It's all bad.
I've often thought of the assimilation of Muslims into the West as a kind of science experiment. On the one hand you have a glass of water with blue dye. The other hand a glass of water with yellow dye-in the middle you mix the two and we end up with a green liquid. Ultimately we're not the same we once were, and ultimately they're not how they once were. The West has that effect it moderates.
The west is afraid of the potential for violence and the overturning of our freedoms rightly so given the rhetoric the news media picks up on. Salmon Rushdie is still alive and well though. Still, it is alarming.
The middle east is also scared of the West. How can a Mullah issue fatwa's with the same hate filled vigor when a multicultural population is looking over his shoulder asking questions...he cant, not for long anyway. As someone who's grandfather's brother died in WW1 and whos name is chiseled into a war memorial in northern France — I too have some misgivings about the non-secular views of Islam permeating my culture. Muslims want happiness like the rest of us. The right to pursue happiness and provide a better life for their family's. We differ on what that happiness is, but deep down it's basically the same. The voices doing their best to upset the West and point fingers at Jews and Christians are Muslims they deem too tolerant of others. are the real danger.
It's funny how Hamas in it's own way is trying to play a little ball with the West. They... after all, have had the most contact with the Israelis. And perhaps understand a little more of what it takes to get along. The closed off societies deeper and darker into the enshrouded middle east are having light directed at them more and more much to their chagrin.
We may one day see an Islamic state. It won't be in my lifetime or Osama's either. And I take solace in that. It may be a much more sanguine — moderate one than any hard-liner could ever want or accept today. And one day it too will disappear. And so it goes.
Rather low pay indeed, but then even Al Qaeda terrorists are only earning $300 per month if married, plus $70 per extra wife, bachelors get $70 per month. Robert, you might know, how far does 70 bucks go in Pakistan?
These are true details of the "Al Qaeda Employee Contract" seen on CNN.
Link and story is over at The Dumb Ox, http://thomistic.blogspot.com
p.s. 25G's seems to be the going rate for suicide murderers. Isn't that what Saddam was paying the families of suicide bombers?
Dear cartoonist
We resent your inaccurate depictions of the prophet Mohammad as a murdering terrorist, so we are sending over some terrorist to murder you.
Signed - the cartoon jihad
Mike Lester, Rome News-Tribune, Rome, GA
http://www.cagle.com/news/Muhammad/9.asp
Never in my wildest dreams did I think that cartoonists would be the ones to expose blatant Islamic hypocrisy.
I wonder what happend to the courage of the MSM. I mean, many journalist happily travel to warzones to cover the events, very often they are in life threatening situations. But they dare not show a few cartoons?!? I don't get it
Maybe they are fearful for their spouses and children. Also, you can leave a war zone and go home and rest. But go into the "Islam doesn't like you zone" and there's no place to relax, no place to hide.
Threat to personal safety has been a force working for Islam from the beginning. You really see that reading the Hadiths and Sirat. I think that the personal violence thing gives Moslems a leg up in everything. In public discourse, politics, you name it.
If all other groups understand that arguing with one group, that being the Moslems, can be fatal, does that not deliver a big and permanent advantage to Islam?
This devout and holy Moslem cleric better be careful with his contest management, cuz there are several cartoonists to murder.
The "kill bill," if you will, could really add up if a bunch of murderous young Active Moslems go on a successful cartoonist group killing spree and slit the throats of all of them.
Allah (swt) willing, of course. May peace and blessings be upon the Holy Prophet and may all the cartoonists who dared to depict Him die horrible and painful deaths.
Like George, Tony, and Condi say: Islam is the religion of peace. But Moslems have feelings, too.
Mr. Fitz Re: Who's on first....Posted by: Hugh at February 17, 2006 12:50 PM
Hugh,
I have been fortunate to have good business relationships with Arab (about 99% Muslim) people. I frankly like the Arabs, but I'm not comfortable with many aspects of Muslim culture.
I think Arabs are generally a very intelligent people, they have a certain intensity, an ability to focus on the moment, that I think makes their culture the perfect ground to produce great scientists. But their focus and this intellectual energy is turned to Islam. Its killing them.
I distrust human nature. It is my observation that people only cooperate (especially im mass) when they have an enemy, or at least some common threat. Otherwise, our species is very self-centered. "Man is to man as a wolf is to a wolf."
Gandhi once said that he did not understand what it is in human nature that gets its sense of self-value by exerting control and supremacy over others. Neither do I, but I will not pretend it is not so. Its history.
Did God make a mistake in creating our species? If not, He must like conflict.
From Gates of Vienna.
There is a grass-roots British project to counter the growing movement to suppress free speech in order to appease Muslims.
The efforts of all the people involved have borne fruit; we received an email this morning announcing that March for Free Expression has booked Trafalgar Square for Saturday 25th March.
They also sent us the following:
Statement of Principle
The strength and survival of free society and the advance of human knowledge depend on the free exchange of ideas. All ideas give offense to someone, and some of the most powerful ideas in human history, such as those of Galileo and Darwin, have given profound religious offense in their time.
The free exchange of ideas depends on freedom of expression and this includes the right to criticize and mock.
We assert and uphold the right of freedom of expression and call on our elected representatives to do the same.
We abhor the fact that people throughout the world live under mortal threat simply for expressing ideas and we call on our elected representatives to protect them from attack and not to give comfort to the forces of intolerance that besiege them.
The group’s email address is marchforfreespeech@googlemail.com, and the blog is marchforfreeexpression.blogspot.com.
So readers in the UK — and those planning a visit — will want to make a note of the date, March 25th, and the venue, Trafalgar Square. That’s in London: just hang a left at the White Cliffs of Dover and go about 60 miles — you can’t miss it.
WHO IS ALLAH
Some 3000 years BC, in the Tigris and Euphrates river basin, there was an ancient civilization called Sumer, with its people called Sumerians.
From archaeological findings of cuneiform engravings, there was a pagan idol named Lil. The name was subsequently modified to Enlil as well as Ramman-ilani.
This Ramman idol was transported via trade routes to India to become the Brahman of Vedic literature, subsequently forming the Hindu religion.
The pagan idol remaining in the land of origin became known as Baal of Babylon. By trade route spread, this pagan idol became arabicised into the name Al-ilah. Al-ilah also had a consort pagan idol named Al-ilat.
With time, Al-ilah became shortened to Al-lah and then Allah.
The name Allah became known as the generic name for god.
The consort Al-ilat became known as Al-lat. Al-lat is one of the pagan idols found in the Ka’bah shrine in Mecca referred to in the Satanic verses of Sura 53 of the Qur’an.
If you have the money, go ahead and offer the reward. I think you would have a good defense.
The law is well settled that the offer of a reward is not a contract and can be withdrawn at any time. Not being a contract, it is not enforceable. Since it is not enforceable, there is no financial compulsion on the part of the rewardee to perform the act. Accordingly, there is no nexus between the offer of the reward and the carrying out of the act, which is the sole responsibility of the actor.
However, you do have to be careful not to make the offer directly to an individual (or small group of identifiable individuals), as that is "solicitation of capital murder" and you will find yourself in a heap of trouble.
There is also the possibility that you could be prosecuted under the obscure federal laws (in the USA) for interfering in United States foreign policy, the exclusive business of the Department of State, or conducting private warfare without a Bill of Marque and Reprisal as authorized in the Constitution.
Now, if someone wanted to take up a collection to purchase the necessary ingredients and expertise to construct a privately funded nuclear device, well, what could be more fun?
How do you actually collect? Do you have to wait in line with a head in a bag behind all the other fucko's that are going to have heads in a bag because they figure the Imam might be stupid enough not to actually know who the real cartoonist is? So then he says "yeah, this is the one" "Way to go kiddo". Now we can get back to regular business of doing nothing all day, bitch and complain and get a good flag BBQ going.
these people are pathetic!
If the Pakistan government doesn't arrest this murder-suborning cleric, it is harboring a terrorist enemy of the West. Western governments would be within their rights -- though not necessarily in their right minds -- to act to punish this guy in self-defense, or punish the Pakistan government itself.
Fortunately for this cleric, there is a bigger picture, and the West cannot let geostrategy turn on the criminal words of scattered clerics, so he and those who say similar things cannot so easily be punished.
Yet there must be some response that can be brought to bear to deter similar statements being made in the future. If this guy is not punished, then he and his ilk will have succeeded in increasing the chill on free speech -- and that is something for us to be up in arms over. But sound policy requires waiting till the best moment to act, acting in concert according to our own laws, not responding precipitously to our own anger, but rather to the big strategic picture, and striking back only at those times and in a manner that most advances Western culture and interests over the long run.
"Did God make a mistake in creating our species?"
-- from a posting above
Don't ask me. I live in the back.
RE: Did God make a mistake in creating our species? If not, He must like conflict.
No, he did not make a mistake. We have free will and that ability to choose between and good and evil.
Some say evil doesn't exist, trust me, it does!