The international irrational cartoon rage overreaction boils over, not at all unexpectedly, into violence. "Cartoon row: Danish embassy ablaze," from AP:
DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) -- Hundreds of Syrian demonstrators stormed the Danish Embassy in Damascus Saturday and set fire to the building, witnesses said.The demonstrators were protesting offensive caricatures of Islam's Prophet Mohammed that were first published in a Danish newspaper several months ago....
A leader of the Islamic militant Hamas group, which recently swept Palestinian parliamentary elections, told an Italian newspaper on Saturday that the cartoons were an "unforgivable insult" that should be punished by death.
"We should have killed all those who offend the Prophet and instead here we are, protesting peacefully," Mahmoud Zahar, a top leader of the militant Islamic group that won the January 25 Palestinian elections, told Italian daily Il Giornale.
"We should have killed them, we should have required just punishment for those who respect neither religion nor its holiest symbols," Zahar was quoted as saying.
Hundreds of Palestinians turned out for protests on Saturday. In Gaza City, demonstrators hurled stones at a European Commission building and stormed a German cultural center, smashing windows and doors. Protesters also burned German and Danish flags, and called for a boycott of Danish products.
"Insulting the prophet means insulting every Muslim," blared a loudspeaker car accompanying some 400 demonstrators who marched to the European Commission building.
In the West Bank town of Hebron, about 50 Palestinians marched to the headquarters of the international observer mission there, burned a Danish flag, and demanded a boycott of Danish goods. "We will redeem our prophet, Mohammed, with our blood,' they chanted....
CNN has chosen to not show the cartoons out of respect for Islam.
That is, pusillanimous dhimmitude and abdication of the principles of free expression that it otherwise defends so stoutly.
And when they find some infidels to kill in the streets, will we continue our denial that Islam is not the problem?
Only if those infidels are Reporters, John. And then they'll find some way to blame Bush for it first.
"CNN has chosen to not show the cartoons out of respect for Islam."
Shock! Amazement!
*ironic laughter*
And so we have our major news agencies so in fear of Islam that they call it something else: "out of respect for Islam." They will never admit that the real reason is because news reporters and producers are 'infidels' themselves, infidels with children and loved ones they fear for, that they wish to see in the mornings and evenings before and after work reporting the news each day, that if they DID dare to show these catalysts (i.e. cartoons) on the television airwaves, it wouldn't be long before CNN news centers were burning right along with foreign embassies.
They deserve people to draw their prophet, they are behaving like a billion or so primary school children with attention deficit disorder.
With all that inbreeding it is no wonder, they have very small brains apparently so that explains it.
By the way this angel who was supposed to have given him the teachings of Islam, it didn't have horns, red, a goatee beard and cloven hoofs did it? The way they are behaving I would not be surprised!
Talk about purposefully targeting civilians and innocents.
Oh, at least it's a religion of starting out "peacefully."
Right - impose "Islamic law" on everyone else - hence Jihad Watch.
CNN/World
Burning down an embassy will definitely have a chilling effect that has set a precedent that tells the world: criticize or even discuss Islam without our approval and we will burn you out. Give us what we want or we will burn you down. Remember what we did to the France, specifically the suburbs of Paris. The Iranian madman is threatening the world with his attempt to get a nuclear material. If he succeeds, it is plain as day that he and his ilk will follow pattern: give us what we want or we will blow up the world for Islam must rule the world!!!!
"We should have killed all those who offend the Prophet and instead here we are, protesting peacefully," Mahmoud Zahar
Islam is Full of Narcissistic Personalities and the quote below explains it well. The link are provided for full articles.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/comics/introduction.htm
"Muhammad suffered from malignant narcissistic personality disorder, and his followers, to the degree that they emulate him, think like him, and try to behave like him, have entered in his narcissistic bubble universe and have become narcissists by extension. This happens to all cultists. In all cults the insanity of the guru reflects on his followers.
The narcissists feel grandiose and self-important. They want to be acknowledges without commensurate merits. It is a mistake to give in to their caprices and comply with their demands. They want recognition and preferential treatment. They expect respect without feeling any obligation to reciprocate. They think it is okay for them to speak opprobriously of you and your faith but you are not allowed to slight them or criticize their faith. It is okay for them to violate your rights and even kill you but you are not supposed to mistreat them in the slightest way. In fact they demand privileges that are not available to others. What they want is your submission. That is what Islam is all about – submission."
Another great comment posted on:
www.faithfreedom.org/oped/AyeshaAhmed60204.htm
"Yet every Muslim blasphemes daily against Christ and Christianity, Judaism and all other religions by recitation of Quran. Quranic verses blaspheming against Christianity and Judaism and calling these and all other religions false and corrupted are read on air waves and printed in newspapers throughout the world. But no Muslim is ever punished for it or ever apologizes for it."
Some of the quranic verses blaspheming other religions are as follows:? ?Gods of all other religions shall be the fuel of Hell (21:98-100)
All Gods except Allah are created, dead and false, they all lead to hell (16:20-21, 25:17-19, 29:41-42,37:22-25)
Jesus was a Muslim and a slave/servant of Allah, and not his son (3:52, 4:171-172,4:172, 5:115-117, 5:111-112)
Crucification of Jesus is a lie (4:157)
Doctrine of trinity is infidelity and disbelief, a painful doom awaits for those disbelievers who believe in trinity (5:73)
Christians corrupted the true message (5:14, 15)
People of the book (Jews and Christians) are evil doers, some of whom were converted into apes and swines for their disbelief (5:59-60)
Jews say Ezra is son of God and Christians say Jesus is son of God, they are liars and perverts, May Allah destroy them (9:30)
Mohammed was sent by Allah as a gift to Christians to correct their corruption and misunderstanding of true religion Islam (57:28,4:47)
"Why don’t the Muslims care about everybody else’s sensitivities? Why have they to be pampered by the very people their Quran calls evil (2:99), diseased (2.10), cursed (2:88), evil (5:59), losers(5:53), liars (16:39), worst beasts (8:55) , lowest creatures (58.20), deaf dumb and blind (2.171), descendants of apes and swines (5.60) and perverts (9:30), and who are considered dirty (9:28) like urine, feces, pigs and dogs touching of whom defiles a Muslim and requires ablution?"
"CNN has chosen to not show the cartoons out of respect for Islam"
That right up there with " Peace in our time" or " That Hitler's a really great guy"
I sincerely hope that some time in the future statements like CNN's will be looked on with embarrassment, and anyone who wants to practice Islam is given a straight jacket, and put in a rubber room.
Allah's Apostle said:
"I have been made victorious with terror" Bukhari 4:52:220
Don't forget that in a lot of European cities the Muslim youths are as numerous as the European youths. So while Islam is still sort of small even in France, their out sized youth contingent is there to burn, bully, intimidate. Like the Korans says
Europe has invited in a Trojan Horse.
Look for more Muslim bullying, blackmail, intimidation, violence, automobile torching in Europe as they take heart from this cartoon rage, embassy burning, bullying Europeans into toeing the Muslim line and certainly not to ridicule their absurd "prophet"
Lets be realistic about this, the call for sharia law
our politicians can gloss over
the constant appeasement of muslims in our nations
the politicians can lie about
BUT burning danish embassies abroad
now thats a different matter, D/W AND J/W are now fully legitimate, every one of our as once were seen as racist views is fully legitimised
Islam is a problem, it wont go away and now only a totally labotomised man could state otherwise..........cue British politicians
but seriously we need this to happen, we need to have absolute proof positive of islams ways, means and global domination intentions
we need to see openly the rift between their ideals and ours the free wests
so yeah hey burn the embassies (show yourselves to the world to be all violent nutters) boycott the goods (cant wait till the WTO have to deal with this illegal action)
just keep digging oh muslim fools
because then it wont be long before we fill in the hole...;-D
I've been talking about violent Islam for months. Islam is not "moderate" like we wish it to be. I count it a blessing that I threw off the PC bullshit early on after reading Spencer's book.
I count it a failure that I ignored islam for as long as I did under the pretenses of believing Islam could be "moderate" like our Western secular fantasies demand.
Where are the PC sheep now? Where is "moderate" Islam in all of this? Hiding with Santy Claus? The tooth fairy? The easter bunny? Unicorns? Little green martians?
The West needs to grow up out of this infantile fantasy of believing EVERY culture, race, and religion thinks in Western, secular terms.
Islam = hate.
Okay, again, are these animals setting things on fire
a)extremists, or
b)Muslims?
I just want to get it straight because I'm still kind of touched by their "Religion of Peace" declaration.
Is is not time that CNN., BBC, etc stopped their holier than thou "we are not printing these cartoons our of mature responsible journalism" lies and take note of the following point:
Most cartoons of the 12 were not of peado mo.
The restraint from printing suggests all 12 were offensive fueling the fires of flags, embassies, and soon innocent people.
They should print the majority of the cartoons that have no mo in to help show the moslems having tantrums that there was not 12 caricatures of mo to start with...
guess not though, because violence makes for good news to cover.
I notice that with French and German papers publishing the cartoons, there is no concerted drive to boycot French and German products such as Renault or Mercedes Benz cars, trucks, and buses, BMW cars, or Airbus aircraft.
And Palestinians rioting in the Gaza Strip are not turning down Euros. In fact, they have their hands out for more.
Relavitism is generically true when it comes to cultures and moral/ethical outlooks. But that's as far as it goes. All it means is that differing cultures and/or moral/ethical outlooks are percieved by each entity as being "good" and "rational". Ya don't really need all sorts of studies and theories to figure that out.
The "Humanist" dogma goes far beyond that, and takes the leap out of reality and creates a universal(absolutist?) moral/ethical doctrine that purports that the various cultures are all equally "good" and "bad", and in need of "growth" or "enlightenment". Where there is oppression of women in the Islamic world there is racism or exploitation in the "Western" world. Where there is violence/terrorism perpetrated by the Islamic world, there is violence/terrorism perpetrated by the "Western" world. "Humanism" makes an attempt at rigid "objectivity", to be an uninterested observer, like in a scientific methodology, or "above it all". But it fails. And it is bound to fail. By taking the basic truth of moral/cultural relavitism and welding it to an all-encompassing value-judgement the "humanists" have corrupted the criteria and turned it into an emotional exersize in wishful-thinking and/or pursuit of fantasy.
They maintain an ILLUSION of objectivity by not taking sides, but that betrays an intentional ideological blindness to reality, the reality that Islam rejects “Humanism”(and all other belief systems), and also exploits it.
The ACTUAL basis or dominant MOTIVATIONAL FACTOR at the ROOT of modern “Humanism” is Marxism. With some religious influence thrown in, specifically “Utilitarianism”. “Humanism” is COLLECTIVE in nature and practice(despite the talk of the “individual”, “responsibility”etc, ). As such, it obliterates the individual and denies free-will and conditions the population for servitude.
Humanism has passed itself off as objective and scientific, but it’s a lie. HUMANISM is THE SOURCE OF POLITICAL-CORRECTNESS. Humanism is a totalitarian cult imposed on us from above, it is a State/World-enforced religion. Any examination of what is “taught” in public(government) schools or propagated elsewhere makes this obvious.
Then there is the PRAGMATIC angle. The politician’s wet-dream philosophical grounding. People REALLY need to understand that Pragmatism is not just a word, it is a philosophy, and this philosophy is interconnected with PSYCHOLOGY.
This is CRITICAL, understanding psychology is POWER, and CAN BE USED TO CONTROL OTHER PEOPLE. Humans are not so complex and are predictable, psychology is knowledge that can be abused by those in positions of power(and is). Principles, honesty, and concrete reality are dismissed as irrelavant by the Pragmatist. This must be understood. Truth has no meaning beyond what is convenient for the Pragmatist. The Pragmatic Theory of Truth consists of : “something is true, only if it is useful”. This can be a gross denial of reality because “usefulness” is a subjective term, and it can be the totalitarian’s definition of truth.
I don't care how many of our embassies they burn down, the more savage they behave, the more they reveal their own hardcore fascism to the world. And if my country is a country that can do something really effective to tear off the moderate mask of Islam, I can only be proud of that.
CNN is arousing curiosity by not showing the cartoons. If their viewers don't get to see them they will look for them on the 'net. Well, if they come here they will really learn something about Islam. The MSM blackout will work in our favor.
Hey Jay,
Excellent point about not boycotting Benzes or Beamers. That's because the M's are practicing selective boycotting to create a smoke screen so that we don't pay attention to what Iran is doing to build up their nuclear arsenal. They can buy cheese elsewhere but they can't get a snazzy car as nice as the Benz or BMW if they boycott those companies, and they know it. If they were really smart they'd try and pull the plug on Internet use so we couldn't keep track of what they are doing.
Man, I love this website!!
The BBC tries to explain their dhimmitude:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/newsid_4670000/newsid_4678100/4678186.stm
What would the penalty in an average Western country be if one of its citizens seriously advocated, in public, murder of a person for drawing a cartoon?
Assume, as is true in the cartoon situation today, that the person advocating murder knows quite well that there are plenty of people listening who are willing to carry out the murder. How long would such a person's prison sentence be in the West? Now that you are thinking of an answer, think also of how the West might implement an equivalent punishment on Mahmoud Zahar and others like him.
Mahmoud Zahar, one of the "top leaders" of Hamas, who is advocating killing of the cartoonists, should, like all others who make similar statements, be punished according to the average rules a Western nation would apply. (I'm making the large assumption that geo-strategic considerations do not preclude such a Western response.)
But the fact is that it is politically impossible for the governments where these men reside to arrest and try them. Yet there must be some serious response to words inciting to murder of persons committing free speech, especially since the perpetrators in this case know full well that their words can have very real, deadly consequences.
What should the West's response be, when other governments refuse to arrest the thugs in their midst who incite to murder? We must do more than protest. We should consider using special ops to confiscate the thug's property, or to destroy his house when no one is inside it.
Not all of the drawings depict Mohammad. So, why have the BBC, CNN, and others decided not to run ANY of the drawings?
Consider this:
The only reason that Muslims can possibly be offended by drawing number six (Desert Mohammad)is that it violates a none-to-clear Islamic prohibition (which is not universally accepted by every Muslim in the first place) against drawings of animate objects.
From a 'freedom of speech' perspective, can anyone here see any valid reason that Western news outlets shouldn't publish it?
These five images, from the original twelve, DO NOT depict Mohammad
1. Life of a cartoonist (expresses the essence of the problem)
http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/01/life-of-cartoonist_29.html#links
2. Line up (see caption):
http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/01/line-up.html#links
3. PR STUNT (note headwear):
http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/01/pr-stunt.html#links
Note: This was submitted in protest
4. Schoolboy (the original caption read "Jyllands-Posten journalists are a bunch of reactionary provacateurs")
http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/01/schoolboy-muhammed.html#links
Note: This was submitted in protest
5. Under the Thumb (see caption)
http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/01/under-thumb.html#links
Note: This DOES contain a criticism of Islamic teachings and attitudes towards women
These two images of Mohammad are completely benign:
6. Desert Mohammad:
http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/01/desert-muhammed.html#links
7. Crescent of Mohammad:
http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/01/crescent-of-muhammed.html#links
This image mocks an unfounded Islamist belief, and the expectation of some suicide bombers:
8. Out of Virgins:
http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/01/out-of-virgins.html#links
The message of this image is ambiguous, but is probalbly not of a Viking:
9. Glory of Mohammad
http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/01/glory-of-muhammed.html#links
This image, using the Western perception of Islam's treatment of women, expresses the essence of the problem:
10. Censorship
http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/01/censorship.html#links
This image is the one most mentioned:
11. The face of Mohammad
http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/02/face-of-muhammed.html#links
This image also addresses the issue at hand:
12. Preaching Jihad
http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/01/preaching-jihad.html#links
"CNN is arousing curiosity by not showing the cartoons. If their viewers don't get to see them they will look for them on the 'net. Well, if they come here they will really learn something about Islam. The MSM blackout will work in our favor."
excellent point!
"What would the penalty in an average Western country be if one of it's citizens seriously advocated, in public, murder of a person for drawing a cartoon?
"Assume...that the person advocating murder knows quite well that there are people listening who are willing to carry out the murder. How long would such a person's prison sentence be in the West?"
Good one, Eduardo. I like the way you think.
Let's try a little experiment... make a sign that says, "All muslims should be kicked out of the United States", and go down and stand in front of your local supermarket and see how long it takes for somebody to call the police or you to receive a death threat from a peace loving Muslim.
There in lies the difference. We're not going to kill or threaten anyone for expressing themselves in that nasty way and the M's know it. But if you want to see a little more action, try that sign in front of the market place in any town in Pakistan or Iran. How long do you think it would take for them to use your bloody, detached head for a football? That is why we have to figure out what we are going to do about this situation and we need to do it now. We are on an uneven playing field and the stakes of this game are too high for us not to win.
In the south, there were churches burned down yesterday, the fires were confirmed to be arson.
The churchs were torched at near the same time, showing a pattern to the burnings. Almost like Sept 11th, or the africian U.S. embassy bombings.
I am not giving blame, just pointing out a possible cause, the news about the torchings have been very slow.
No small part of the problem in all this is that many Western European governments have allowed themselves to become consumed with their ideological obsessions.
Their prostrations towards this problem is matched only by their loathing and hatred towards those sections of their own population that they were ostensibly set up to protect.
Perhaps those at the top think they have a ready-made escape plan, after creaming off so much whilst busily enrichng themselves.
The question I have to ask, is what are the long-term plans of those who are intent on dissolving everything relating to Western Europe and those nations who developed from that.
Is it just cowardice, a gruding acceptance of the 'inevitable'; or are there more long-range plans that are unlikely to come to fruition in the next 50 - 80 years or so?
I find it hard to believe that the power elites at the top are so supine and boneless as to be unable to see what is happening. Therefore, it is necessary think in terms of active collusion rather than passive acquiescence on their part.
Time for all Muslims to return to Mecca and think about their apparent lunacy (crescent moon a problem, too?) for about 1350 years.
Who needs these crybaby imbeciles clogging our streets? Wasting our policemen's time? And resources better spent on creative, loving, humorous, productive, positive things.
Islam- the Trojan Leech.
Report: Thanks for the link to CNN/World. It made it convenient to send an e-mail to complain about their news "error" in submitting to the mobs and becoming another dhimmi.
Rumoret: Great post on the narcissistic personality cult of islam. It's right on. Thanks.
The world finally gets a good look-see of what the pin heads in Muslim land are really made of. Let's hope the EU and the USA stops the aid to the Palestinian thugs and see how long they last. Even their own camel jockey brethren don't give a rat's ass about them. Come to think of it....I bet those cartoons were a ploy by the Israelis to decimate the Palestinians from within. Those boys in the Mossad really can come up with some goodies.
Lets do a little contrast here...
Jesus said as he was being crucified, "Forgive them father for they know not what they do!"
Obviously the Muslims have no real model or example of ultimate forgiveness in their "holy" book. Instead it is ,kill those that defame merely in words or pictures, which is significantly less extreme than crufixion.
Please if you are Muslim and reading this, there is a much better way to know God. Read the bible, try reading John.
Jesus said to pray for those that persecute you,not behead them. He said to love your enemies so as to make them your friends. He said if you live by the sword you will surely die by the sword. Can you not see that he was more than extrodinary.
He is much greater than Mohammed even according to the Koran, Mohammed had to be forgiven of sins, Jesus was sinless, Mohammed was not born of a virgin, Jesus was born of a virgin. Jesus comes back in the end to deal with Satan, not Mohammed. Jesus is called spirit of God and word of God in your Koran. God is love not hate and vengeful anger, and in the Bible God says vengence is His, not ours to take.
Salam Alikum
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