Hamas Leader Khaled Mash'al at a Damascus Mosque: The Nation of Islam Will Sit at the Throne of the World and the West Will Be Full of Remorse – When it's Too Late

"They do not understand the Arab or Muslim mentality, which rejects the foreigner. Our Arab forefathers, before the advent of Islam, rejected the aggressors and the foreigners

Whitehouse are you listening?
Also, when was this time "before the advent of islam"? I thought all since Adam were moslem (according to qur'an)

"The Nation of Islam Will Sit at the Throne of the World "

Will? Will? The nation of Islam already sits upon a certain "throne of the World".

It's a giant toilet... It is the world which the Muslims have created within the wider world... And the sewer this toilet straddles is called Islam...

This guy really believes we are using all of our military might in Iraq, what a maroon.

The nation of Muhammad is gaining victory...

If Islam is a nation --- as Hamas leader Khaled Mash'al and tens of thousands of other Moslem leaders so frequently aver --- then Islam is not a religion.

And, if Islam ain't a religion, then given its nature, history, and behavior it must be examined for designation as an organized criminal enterprise in open violation of the federal RICO statute.

"The Nation of Islam Will Sit at the Throne of the World and the West Will Be Full of Remorse – When it's Too Late"

-- Khaled Mash'al

Yeah, yeah buddy, we heard similar crap come out of the mouth of Nikita "We will bury you" Kruschev forty years ago. Now, his ideaology has been tossed into the dustbin of history as will yours.

The difference between you and Kruschev is that he had something to fight with. What are you gonna do, throw oil on us?

I guess since you called Israel's voluntary exit from Gaza a victory for your side, you'll probably really crow when the US voluntarily leaves Iraq. By those standards, I can only imagine what you'll call sitting on "the Thone of the World."

What we have here is a failure to communicate. The Israelis have not communicated their power, and have relied on one fateful compromise after another. They have not lost any wars, as yet -- but they have lost every negotation, every agreement, every set of accords. And why not? Why should Muslims not breach every single one of their commitments made to mere Infidels? "War is deception" said Muhammad, uswa hasana, and why should those who attempt to imitate him in every way do differently?

In Iraq, too, the Americans made a little war, and then a big peace. They have built water-treatment plants, rebuild and reequipped schools and hospitals, repaired and expanded power grids and damaged oilfields. They think, on the basis of nothing but a theory that is shown every day to be without foundation, that somehow these good works, and the faith that some Americans have that everyone is the same, everyone wants the same things -- "freedom" (but "freedom" to do what?) and "democracy" (but the will of the head-counting expressed to promote what?) -- and that somehow this will lessen the threat that the Islamic world poses.

The Islamic world poses a threat not because of poverty, not becuase of lack of democracy, but because of Islam. Islam teaches Muslims to make one central distinction: between Believers, and Infidels. "Do not take Jews and Christians as friends" says the Qur'an, "for they are friends only with each other." When you meet Unbelievers, smite them. Those who oppose Islam and its spread are the enemies of God. Kill them. This is repeated so often in the Qur'an, and in the stories of the Hadith, and in the life of Muhammad himself, that only the wilfully ignorant, those who refuse to read the texts, or understand them rightly (for example, by refusing to see how the interpretive doctrine of "naskh" or abrogation makes the Qur'an even harsher and more menacing for Infidels), are dangerous to the rest of us. There is no reason why the rest of us should pay with our guaranteed liberties, our laws, our customs, our understandings, our art, our science, our free and skeptical inquiry, our civilization, and our lives, because of the wilful ignorance of some among us, who refuse to see what is staring them in the face.

Look at what is staring you in the face. It is the videos of decapitations. The hijacked planes over the past 35 years. The suicide bombings.

Still quite ambiguous. Keep that Infidel Jizya flowing, until we can get a clear statement.

Ah yes Khaled, once again speaking with your ass. But I agree with Hugh maybe we are "misunderstanding" something, here is 5cents worth of jizya just please keep talking I MUST TO HAVE THE INFORMATION?!?!

Islam is funny...gosh I love this site

Regards,

Shunkleash (PBUH)

danish cartoons = the Gavrilo Princip of the 21st century?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrilo_Princip

one little known fact was that Princip was a Muslim.

Khaled = Dhalek. Need we say more?

y Hamas leader Khaled Mash'al at the Al-Murabit Mosque in Damascus. The address was delivered following the Friday sermon at the mosque, and was aired on Al-Jazeera TV on February 3, 2006. To view this clip, visit:

This is almost too funny to read from such a pompous SOB! this Khaled is proof that trained monkeys can speak arabic!

"We say to the West... By Allah you will be defeated". from speech by Khaled Mash'al

Could this be the "mother of all battles" that the jihadists have promised but failed to deliver? After watching the Super Bowl advertising, I now understand where this cretin came from. He is obviously the offspring of Godzilla and a giant robot.

I have good news from the cartoon war front lines. I went to my local supermarket to pick up my favorite cheese, Denmark's Finest - Havarati, but they were all sold out. There was a faily conspicuous gap in the cheese department where once the Danish cheese had been on display. I still can't find any Danish beer or wine. I think Robert will be remembered in history like Marie Antoinette. Rather than "let them eat cake" it will be "let them eat cheese".

The above statements simply confirm my positon that Islam is the new "sick man " of the world, using a term given to the old Ottermon Empire towards the end of its time as an empire.

Hammas is doing a better job than Hugh ever did to convince me not to support any future Palestinian state. And to think, it only too the Hamas leader a few paragraphs to convince me!

cheers,

Sorry, but I have to disagree with most of you about this man. Actually he is a clear message to the problem we have in the West. He is telling the truth about their desire of conquest and about our stupidity when we deal with them; furthermore, he is full of passion about his ideology. Who among the current western leaders has his charimas and the strength of his convictions?

He sees Hamas as an example of the way to victory and the total destruction of what we love in the West. We better take him seriously and listen. Only by knowing the enemy is possible to win this war.

It seems that he believes that Hamas's combination of terror and vote will deliver the day. Hamas showed that it is possible. Yes, terror to scare the hell of we weak westerner, and votes to get control democratically a nation.
Moreover, yes! He is right. We fools keep preaching about democracy to Mo's children. When are we going to learn that our survival is at stake?

I wish we had Churchill back! Who is our Cesar to defeat the Muslims? Bush? He will be gone within one year and probably replaced by a foolish democrat. Tony? He cannot even get a vote through anymore? The German government is divided. I guess the French and the Danish Queens will have to save us.

Christ better come soon before Europe is overtaken.

Citizens of western democrtacies need to begin realizing we are in the midst of WW III. We have the upper hand for now but that may be temporary as Islamists begin acquiring advanced weapons. They already have massive populations. Here in Canada Islamic organizations last year attempted having Sharia law legally recognized in Ontario as an alternative to Canadian law ("so that we can be tried by our peers"). This was a very close call (the recommendation was turned down by the government after much debate). Wimpy Canadians everywhere were supporting this nonsense on behalf of being "inclusive". It is essential we do not let our liberal values betray us into bartering away those same values on the alter of "tolerance".

At the same time this debate was in progress a representative of the Calgary Islamic community wrote a feature for the Herald in favor of the initiative explaining how, under Sharia, beating your wife was acceptable so long as this did not leave visible wounds.

I was watching Frontline a week ago and it was ironic how they took it for granted that Hamas would eventually become moderate but what they were the most concerned about was how this Hamas win would swing Israel to the far right. It's hopeless. The West will not see the threat the Palestinians pose to Israel until Tel Aviv ceases to exist. The reality of Hamas's objectives and popularity seems to be too scary to be true, so we cease to believe them, even when they tell us plainly that they seek nothing less than the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of the Jews.

Re Hamas leader Khaled Mash'al's comments: Arrogance is always a cover for insecurity.

In the not too distant future no one will need oil. In a very brief time "fossil fuels" will be considered primitive. He spreaks from pain and desperation, with threats and arrogance, the need to control born of insecurity.

This is what happens when a culture (Islam) deprives itself of history books.

History has shown time and time again, the best way to lose a war is to have the United States PEOPLE as your enemy.

The American people haven't really thrown themselves into a conflict wholeheartedly since World War II, but I am quite sure that if a religiously and culturally explosive war errupts across the globe, you will not want to be facing the true ire and disdain of the United States citizenry. That is a losing battle everytime.

Try us.

The plan for the defeat of these savages is so simple, and doesn't even require any vain hopes of democracy: keep bombing them back into the stone age (which, given their technological state, wouldn't take much). Of course, a mass expulsion of Moslems from Europe and the USA would help as well.

Whether the West has the will to put such a simple plan into effect is far more complicated; complicated by the fact that we are decent, civilised folks. Contrast the behaviour of the Christian West with the actions of the Islamic states when Israel was founded - the mass murder of Jews in Iraq springs to mind.

I hope Robert isn't remembered as ending up like Marie Antoinette.

don't mind that Hamas bit about rejecting the nonbeliever. I can go with that.

As one of our Danish friends said earlier, why not post the cartoons outside the Social Security office? Presumably the offence to the Great Pedophile would deter the leeches from going in. What is the unemployment rate amongst Muslims in Denmark? Only reason they are in our countries is to leech off us.

Only thing the Muslims migrants like about us is our money. Our higher culture and high taxes, intended to care for those in a commonwealth who share our altruism, instead going to pay for these resentful primitivos to breed and plot murder against us.

i still favor the scenario of two parallel societies but with ideologies that will not mix, in that iron will not mix with clay. then antichrist takes over a ten region world. then jesus christ returns to set up a kingdom which will not pass away. i want many muslims to be saved and come to belief in jesus christ as their lord, not muhammad. this indeed will happen as many muslims opt for the love of god simply through jesus christ and over the fear tactics and legalistic control of islam. yes islam will spread it's influence to infiltrate the whole earth, but many muslims will convert to christ and jesus christ will conquer in the end. islam wants to control the world with islam's legalism, but jesus christ controls his believers with his love. the perfect love of god casts away all fear, but islam tries to play on fear and judgement. but the world's sins have been judged. death itself has been judged. there is no condemnation awaiting those in christ jesus. god is no longer counting mens' sins against them, except for unbelief in jesus christ, which means to remain spiritually dead. following the old covenant law, a form of which islam prides itself on, cannot give anyone eternal life. only belief in jesus can. so islam is striving to attain a position of superior spiritual piety from which to put the world on a guilt trip. but don't fall for it folks. islam has denied the only source of righteousness before the living god. that is jesus christ. the mullahs are only imposters that use fear and guilt to manipulate anyone who does not buy into islam. satan is at the helm of islam but will be defeated by jesus christ in the fullness of time.
everybody listen to www.realanswers.net.
"god was in christ reconciling the whole world to himself, not counting men's sins against them." now be reconciled to god through jesus christ.
there is no more sacrifice for sins. jesus already died for sins. there is no bowing down five times per day to please god. god is already pleased with the sacrifice of jesus christ. can you see why islam hates the message of jesus christ? it is because it renders islam obsolete to please god because jesus already pleased god eternally. do not let anyone put you under a bondage of slavery, which is what islam does.

Nomotonogasso quoted; "At the same time this debate was in progress a representative of the Calgary Islamic community wrote a feature for the Herald in favor of the initiative explaining how, under Sharia, beating your wife was acceptable so long as this did not leave visible wounds."

"visible" is the key word here. Wearing traditional garb, you could bruise her head to toe w/o a visible mark.

Frank said ; "In the not too distant future no one will need oil. In a very brief time "fossil fuels" will be considered primitive. He spreaks from pain and desperation, with threats and arrogance, the need to control born of insecurity."

Until we do have new technology (there is some proof we already have replacement technology but it is being supressed...love of money corrupts), there are other upcoming sources of oil in the near future. Check this story...
"Alberta's oil sands contain the biggest known reserve of oil in the world. An estimated 1.7 to 2.5 trillion barrels of oil are trapped in a complex mixture of sand, water and clay."
http://www.energy.gov.ab.ca/89.asp

Though an alternative is much more desirable, at this time we must see that we need to stop sending them our charitable donations through fuel consumption, and send these dollars to Canada if need be.

Sorry for moving off topic here, but the voice of Islam would be much smaller if it were not for their petro-dollars (Saudi)

jUST A THOUGHT If the Danes send all the mulsums in their country back to a mulsum country and their children too and any woman who has converted or married one ?

I bet the Danes would save more money?

and Europe too think of all that Welfare money and how many changes you have had to make to appese which never worked any way?

No you will save money send these monsters in your mist back to the hell they came from.

Khaled Mash'al: "We apologize to our Prophet Muhammad, but we say to him: Oh Prophet of Allah, do not be saddened, your nation will be victorious.

"We say to this West, which does not act reasonably, and does not learn its lessons: By Allah, you will be defeated.

Khaled Mash'al why don't you come to America and for the majority of Americans are ready to teach you about freedom and what our willingness to defend our freedom means.

As the Bible forcasts, the stars will fall out of the sky on the masses of Muslems that surround Israel and their eyes will melt out of their skulls and the the flesh will burn off their bones.

Sounds like nukes falling across the Middle East to me.

The war with Islam is fastly approaching and it is near.

Be prepared, be ready.

The Texican,
It is better to fight and die free than to ever live under Islam.

Freedom or Death.

>>realistic sez: "Alberta's oil sands contain the biggest known reserve of oil in the world"

This statement is correct. Alberta could supply all of North America for the next 100 years at least. Bituminous sands oil is costlier than Middle East oil but still quite affordable - and the supply is secure. The US needs to start investing in this resource before China grabs it (which they are already attempting). Canadians are soft on threats to their democracy so don't count on them to exercise a whole lot of discretion here. It would not surprise me if they opted to hand the tar sands over to China just to express some sort of phony nationalism vis a vis the US.

Advice to the US: The Middle East isn't the only game in town when it comes to oil. Look north and act before it's too late.

Think about China during these recent events. They are notorious for operating through "proxy states" such as North Korea and are supplying weapons to Muslim states such as Sudan and Iran.

ngm

What's funny about this is that there's still a healthy percentage of American rubes who ignore all the hatred and claim that most of islam is moderate.

Five years later, and still not a PEEP from the fantasized "moderates" about the 10s of thousands of innocent deaths (including children) at the hands of islam since 9/11.

Yet the rubes are still holding out hope, I guess. What was that saying? "There's a sucker born every minute"? Plenty of American suckers here willing to ignore any and all atrocities and apologize for any and all declarations of war - no matter how many children are murdered.

Islam=hate, violence, murder. It needs to be banned for the political cult it is. Just like naziism.

It is a No Quarter War with Evil and not a time to play "Let's make another deal" for oil, drugs and a prayer rug.
The Sword of Islam and the Quran are not made change their camel stripes nor muslims change alligence to sand merchants, Mo and Allah, it's kind of tatooed on their brains and back sides from birth. So, the only ones being fooled is us trying to compromise, make a deal with evil.

I keep asking myself, "what's it going to take before the West wakes up?". I guess one has to be patient, it's only been 1400 years.

' Today, the Arab and Islamic nation is rising and awakening, and it will reach its peak, Allah willing. It will be victorious. It will link the present to the past. It will open up the horizons of the future. It will regain the leadership of the world. Allah willing, the day is not far off."

What he's saying here is they want to drag the world back to the 7th century where they still live.

The muslims contribute nothing to civilization. They take what they can use and make weapons of it. They don't invent anything they don't try to improve society, theirs or anyone elses. If left to them the world would still be in the stone ages. What they currently have has been given to them or bought with oil money. Absolutely nothing,since the 6th century, has been developed by them. And if they were to take over the world nothing would ever be developed again.

Yeah, only 1,409 years...

Khaled uses the words 'defeate', and 'defeated' thirteen times, nine times in one small paragraph. Either he has a limited vocabulary or he is trying to tell us we will be defeated. Probably both...

It is about time that the western world see islam for what it is, a growing group of fanatics and nut cases. The west needs to strike now before the islamic states gain any more power. We need to push them back into the caves that they hide in.
If the west would just once show its true might I'm sure they would get the message and back down. It would not take much to have them running scared and the stupid dialog would stop. Stop trying to be the friend in islam, and be the ememy of islam. For that is what the west is to them.

Now, now! Let's be even handed about these things. Remember to take a deep breath; count to ten; and think: "appeasement","containment","peace."

What other PC thing can we do?

There are few honest Muslims around, this guy is one we should listen too.

Some of us get the message, for me it is a call to arms. Why aren't we listening? What does it take for GWB to prick up his ears, what does it take before that hapless errant-girl Condi smells the coffee?

What does it take to wake up Chamberlain Jack (Straw) and all those shameless appeasers, the foreign minister of Norway who wants to restrict freedom of expression and press freedom to kowtow to Mohammedan infil-traitors?

We are in deep s*#t, folks, much deeper than one could imagine even just a few years ago.

Allahs faithful soldiers already believe we are ready for the taking...

A pin-prick like 9/11... (compared to the 500,000 soldiers that the U.S., alone, lost in WW II)... and the result was: two Islamic states and their terrorist regimes were toppled.

When something serious occurs, and more than a "mere" 3,000 people die, then the current pussyfooting will stop.

Until then, everybody in the general populace in the West is just in: aw, f*ck it mode- as far as the obviously crazy "Muslim street" concerns them.

We have better things to concentrate on (the opposite sex, art, music, sports, literature, etc.) rather than waste our time on "what gets a bunch of infantile baboons riled up".

("They're killing people over cartoons! You've gotta be frickin' kidding?!!" is the average response to the present Islamo-lunacy.)

We are in Waiting-For-The-Hit-To-Happen Time.

Hoping it never does, but ready with the Big Stick if and when it does.

This is what the maniacs in Muslim Wonderland just don't understand:

-we value our freedom more than their lives.

Big Time.

May the Mossad issue a 115-grain Cor-Bon fatwa into the diseased brain of the evil mash'al, as he cowers in syria.

"danish cartoons = the Gavrilo Princip of the 21st century?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrilo_Princip

one little known fact was that Princip was a Muslim."

I'm thinking more that the Danish cartoons = Second Defenestration of Prague

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenestrations_of_Prague

The Thirty Years War of 1618 to 1648 was when the Protestants and Catholics in Germany finally went head to head with each other after a long simmering mutual hatred of each other's worldviews.

The trigger was when an assembly of aggreaved Protestants grabbed two Catholic grandees and threw them out of a window (which is what a defenestration is) and caused them to land on a big 'ol pile of poop.

Sometimes you get a Pearl Harbor starting a war. We had initially thought 9-11 was that, but our MSM managed to talk us all out of that. So now the Muslims are digging their Mo out of a figurative pile of poop and are coming after us. And this new war promises to be every bit as brutal as the Thirty Year Wars.

We in the West are down on the Muslims because, amongst other things, they do not seem to have the capacity to be secular in the spirit of "live and let live". But we are forgetting that Europeans did not develope that sensibility until after the Thirty Years war had thoroughly ravaged central Europe. The only reason that war finally ended was because so many farms had been destroyed that there eventually was no food to feed all the roving armies (Protestant and Catholic) that were destroying everything as they marched. It was the Thirty Years war that turned Europeans off on religious fanaticism. All our high minded ideas about religious tolerance and "live and let live" go back to when we had thoroughly experimented with NOT doin that. The Muslims haven't had that education yet. But it looks like they are now about to get it.

If you want to see a movie about the the results of the Thirty Years War, see "The Last Valley" (1971,Michael Caine). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/last_valley/

sheik yer'mami:
There are few honest Muslims around, this guy is one we should listen to.

Lots of these honest Muslims around, constantly telling us what their intentions are, how they despise us, want to kill us, take over, etc., etc. And the taqiyya-artists are forever being proved wrong, i.e., with the claim that Islam is Peace and tolerance and greatness.

That's what's so frustrating. If they're not telling us to our faces, their BS is so evident, so why won't we wake up? Actually, it's not us that's the problem. It's our governments. I get the feeling, especially after this Cartoon Inferno, that less people are believing the crap from Islam.

I suppose it is difficult. I think if you were a country leader and really "got" Islam, the only thing to do would be to deport every single one of them, stripping citizenship if need be. And with the rest you're stuck with, declare Islam seditious and ban it. It'd take one set of cajones to do that. It would have to be a team effort by all Western nations, for we'd have to stand together against the unholy rage it would unleash in Muslims. Many would die, on both sides. But I just don't see any other way. If we keep pretending Islam is a normal religion and allow them the freedom to swarm our countries, it's suicide. Either by bomb or by being outbreeded. And it'd be a shame to allow the great nations our forefathers worked their butts off to build, and gave their very lives for, to be turned into fetid sewers of Islam.

I have a better phrase: "We Say to The Islamic world... By Allah, You Will defeat yourselves"....

On this note, I think it's all well and good post comments but if they eventually achieve little - our civilizational head will be sitting on it's civilizational back.

I've been a regular reader and supporter of Jihadwatch for the past 3.5 years and it's high time to begin discussing solutions in as many posts as we can. Comments, sentiments and gripes about the disjointed nonsense of left versus right needs to halt and halt immediately. Those who choose to be cattle may remain cattle. Some people insist on following the heard - even if that means the heard eventually is lead to slaughter.

The very fact that in the past few months there has been a tremendous surge in posts is indicative of our common natures as visitors to this site. We are not cattle, we refuse to be run off a cliff and we will not allow our collective slaughter. We would all like to believe that world caliphate will never happen and that the Islamic Umma is not in fact attempting inroads into our world to subdue it. Unfortunately, every day - with every of Jihadwatch topic, we see those inroads being re-inforced by the Islamic world.

I for one do not believe for a moment that Islam will prevail under any circumstance. The Internet proves beyond a geopolitical doubt that spreading the truth regarding Islams global intention can no longer be silenced by threat of death. People are learning and the sites, commentary and daring will to expose the dark underbelly of Islam is increasing at a logical rate.

Case in point: If Islam wins the world, there is too much modern information to suppress. Between books, DATs, hard drives, optical or other digital media, Islam can no longer suppress modern thought. If victorious, Muslim descendants deep into the future will most likely delve into the ethos and cultural underpinnings of our current day world and recognize superior points of human reference to their own. Iran already has had enough sharia - given enough time, support or painful inspiration, they would change themselves. Once Muslims recognize the incurable failures of their own civilization i.e. the very rational notion that their god cannot actually be real when quantified to structure of our universe - Islam will begin to fail. Either way, a flawed system will wither evolve or become extinct.

Considering that so many thinkers do frequent this site, we should be grateful that we are so well positioned with modern ideals as to embrace the constant of change and the concepts of our coming civil evolution.

Ultimately as Americans, Russians, Australians, Europeans, Asians and all other concerned citizens of our Earth - we need to first begin voting with our wealth. We need to do so not only as a matter of personal discipline but also as a cohesive response to the Islamic oil producing world. Muslims can furiously boycott one nations goods and services but they cannot well survive our collective choice to change the rules of the oil game at hand.

These are capitalist societies we live in that not only provide us with modern lives to live in relative comfort but also the social grace of human dignity and free choice. Muslims may believe that they have a soft loan from their imaginary lord "allah" in the form of oil yet we are afforded the very real force of financial choice. Unlike their collective fit throwing aimed at one or more nations for a set of cartoons, our boycott can be perpetual, endlessly devastating and immutable.

Each and every one of you who must buy gasoline, thermoplastics, petrochemicals and other assorted oil derivatives, finance allahs soft loan to the Islamic world. We thereby finance the aspiration, the bravado and the hatred towards us in a rather twisted circle of geopolitical chess.

We need to one and all begin to change the rules of the game by making aggressive and focused choices with our hard earned cash. Our goal, or rather our financial column should be to begin constricting the financial flow of oil money to these nations as immediately and proactively as possible. If money makes the world go 'round then it is us, the oil customers, who choose with our money which direction the world turns.

I for one am undergoing (shortly) an engineering project of building a rapid prototype vehicle relying even less on fossil upon fuel for daily use and do so based on principles of durability, mechanical simplicy, modern form and powerful function. I see opportunity to both provide, serve and contribute to our society in a greatly improved way, all the while contributing to the defeat of our enemies on war fronts they have no control over - our wallets. In short, we need to say in one collective voice that if the Islamic world is unwilling to open the gates of itijihad and reform themselves, they will forever be at our capital mercy.

I'm not asking for investors here - this is not why I explain my undertaking. I'm am merely stating that I'm throwing down my gauntlet and extending my middle finger towards Mecca in my most personal way. I am but one more American and proud world citizen moving forward with hope for our future by designing technology to further close the door on oil financed Islamism. I'm burning calories away from the computer in order to see to it that our future will mean something to those who will inherit it. Given the trends biotech, maybe it will be myself who will inherit this world in the coming centuries - who knows?

We need to begin to seed the ideal that we must form a more perfect union through targeted purchase. We most certainly need to insure that a hydrogen dominant economy becomes our greatest aspiration for this alone may unlock the doors to democratically controlled power sources. This needs to begin at a rate that will outstrip the Islamic oil regimes ability to save a windfall. How and when this begins is up to readers most concerned here. Ultimately no-one will then hold the key to fuel wealth in the third world if no customers are interested. Ironically, it would be those who have the water that rule the earth, not those with the oil. Lots of water, new reasons to respect it and so many who may be able to produce it. Energy could very well be one less thing with which to leverage unreasonable control over others in the future. I say the sooner the better.

Currently, there are solar, wind, hydrogen and other alternate energy companies becoming public. As they do, invest in them as your first votes against the continued finance of Islamic expansionists. These companies see opportunity and they deserve our financial choices. If they aspire to provide greater elevations to our lives and the lives of our children, the logical choice is to afford ourselves a future that we control - not "allah".

The Muslim world may well boycott the products of a small nation to harm their economy yet the totality of the Kuffar world can deal a suffocating and lethal blow to "allahs soft loan program" that the Muslim world so enjoys.

If we cannot act proactively with our combined wealth and begin to buy, invest or purchase with discipline - we will loose yet one more front in this war. This DOES not need to happen. In this one way, we are constant soldiers - armed with paychecks and the free choice with which to wield a fearsome, combined power. Who among you would post new ideas that can directly begin to cut off the power that Islamic world forces have squandered since they first dirtied their hands with oil?

We need to begin to discuss - in the vein of each topic posted here, our combined strength and how we can counteract each and every attempt by this aggressive global threat.

We need to begin four years ago, yesterday and we need to catch up to the present day sometime tomorrow. In short - we are very late and I no longer believe that comments here are enough.

I support Robert, Hugh and the rest at JW and I cannot thank all of you @ JW enough for this indispensable (and measured) education regarding the fascist Islamic threat we now face. For 3.5 years, I have not been one of the human cattle that we see so much of each and every day. We are not the ones who are now surprised by the loud and furious cries to crush the modern world we live. Count yourself among the wise if none of what the Islamic world does surprises you. If you are not surprised, lets now begin to formulate new ways with which to cut the life out from this evil we face. I've posed the concept of monetary voting since it is something we do daily and I do not believe we are without control.

Lastly, in order to fulfill Roberts rather empathetic intention for human kind to fortify us all from this ravaging ideology, I suggest we begin to actively support continued coverage and deeper exposure of Islam in the mass media. Once again, we do this by our financial vote. Cartoons are a good start to get attention but this alone may not be enough to keep wake up such deep "dhimmi" sleepers we have around us.

Comments are fine but I believe it is high time we throughly outrun ancient Islam and we need to do so, united as fellow human beings.

Cheers! QI

-We value our freedom more than their lives.

Eloquently stated Profitsbeard

The Texican,

It is better to fight and die free than to ever live under Islam.

Freedom or Death

Amazing what can happen in 12 hours. Looks like the temperature is moving from warm to HOT! Like my grandmother use to say, "If you can't stand the heat......get out of the kitchen!"

So nice to hear the slow awakening in Washington D.C. This morning I woke to Americans calling radio talk shows to voice their opinions on this DEVIL CULT! That is what I love about talk radio. How else can Americans hear about this CULT if not for talk radio and the internet!

I feel a revolution coming on!

Quantum Infidel-

Where can I get hemp-based credit cards instead of plastic to begin the counter-Jihad?

Agreed that greed for mere convenience will end when the Muslo-threat cracks the "3,000 dead" barrier in the West.

Until then, much IS being done to unshackle us from our oily chains to Islam.

And we have Denmark to thank, yet again.

Last September, just as the Cartoon Jihad began, scientists at the Technical University of Denmark had an earth-shaking breakthrough in hydrogen storage technology...a "hydrogen tablet"... news which has gone amazingly unreported in the mainstream press (a surprise?).

http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/FuelCellToday/IndustryInformation/IndustryInformationExternal/NewsDisplayArticle/0,1602,6487,00.html

I prefer to break their backs with a bike.

And snack on Havarti for slow energy needed to tackle the hills.

Bon apetit!

And Down with All Dogmatic Tyrannies!

Texican-

A 60 lb. bow is nice, as well... when you need the silent approach.

(And is good for the biceps and triceps, too.)

Not as melodic as a 12 string guitar, but sometimes you need something stronger than a song to soothe the savage beast.

(And, I know, it's "savage breast"... but Shakespeare's better in mis-translation, in this case.)

Thank you for your post QI.

you are right. Fossil fuel use is no longer just an environmental issue. Those in control of oil have us by the economic balls and it is a profound threat to the very existence of western ideals on earth Since much of that money goes to support ideologies which cry for our destruction. How can we fight and pay for the knife at our throat at the same time?

Some reasonable and immediately actionable proposals are presented by a unified group incompassing everyone from tree-huggers to neo-cons. Please consider contacting your elected representatives and encouraging them to act on these issues.

WWW.setamericafree.org

Heh.

Looks like khaled and his buddies in hummus need to cut down on the garbanzos. Its making them gassy.

rantisi, in contrast, opted for barbecue. A fine choice on his part.

What I find incredible is WE PAY THESE ISLAMIC FANATICS TO PREACH ISRAEL AND OUR OWN DESTRUCTION-how crazy are we?? For starters, ALL FUNDING TO PALESTINIANS SHOULD STOP. All funding to any Muslim country should immediately cease...
They want AND INTEND TO KILL US ANYWAY so more raging Muslims won't make a scrap of difference.
It's time these Mo lunatics were told in no uncertain terms-literally-"The buck stops here" and you ain't getting any more cash from the West.

We value our freedom more than their lives--that is good and let's remember it.

good post QI

I am glad that Bush has finally made the link between dependence on M.E. Oil and the War.

There is actually a more elasticity in the demand of oil than people seems to be aware of. Western economies are increasingly moving towards knowledge based economies. Yet many of the knowledge workers still travel to work via a car. Each morning and evening we unnecesarily move tones of mass per worker around (typically >3000lb).

In the 1972 oil shock we did not have broadband, today we do.

all that needs to be done is change the tax regime.

in relation to the Hamas article,

EU member states donated about $600m (£341m) to the Palestinians in 2005.

so when the Hamas leader says

We say to this West, which does not act reasonably, and does not learn its lessons: By Allah, you will be defeated.

truer words have not been spoken

Westman said "Yes, terror to scare the hell of we weak westerners, and votes to get control democratically a nation. Moreover, yes! He is right."

Indeed, Westman is wise old fogey...he
re-iterates what I have been saying for a while.

Consider the Roman...her soldiers won an empire & kept it for over 400 years. ....however the Italian soldier in WWII was just laughed at...where is the spirit?

Consider the French...her soldiers almost won almost empire, produced some of the best leaders . ....however the French soldier in WWII capitulated in less than 6 weeks...where is the spirit?

Consider the US and the British ...the finest soldiers and strategy since Allah knows when...but where is the spirit now?

Yes I know that you have a few soldiers in Iraq...but you can't wait to bring them back...soldiers have no choice but to fight....but it is the spirit of the people that I'm (concerned) about....where is it?

The Infidel has become spiritually weak, he has forgotten the sacrifices of his fathers. No regeneration of the spirit in the West is done now....the only peoples in church are the Father and the fathers (of childrens that they are not allowed to see). The best to be done these days is dressing up as Batman & Robin.

Now consider the people of Islam...whetever else you may say about them...they don't lack spirit even aget 1400 years...Allah (swt)is most merciful in looking after his own.

They have limited weapons but they still *KNOW* they will rule the West...they are spiritually charged...and they think that nothing can stop them....they have the will of Allah behind them.

So...as nothing much has changed here are another few Arabic phrases that will be part of your local lingo....learn them well and integrate with your muslim brethern.

"ma-Smuk?" What is your name?
"ismi Caroline" My name is Caroline.
"ismuhu American" His name is Amrikan.

Khaled Mash'al words "Allah willing, the day is not far off"
What's coming??
Mash-al is a physics teacher, the supreme leader of Hamas, and considered to be the director of the group's terrorist attacks - living in exile in Syria.
His threats sound like Al Qaeda stuff.

(Canada won't be selling out the oil sands to China. The recent election was won by the right and the new leader is from that province)

"We value our freedom more than their lives."

OUTSTANDING statement Profitsbeard.

And to the Pukestani troll, don't worry about us having to learn Arabic, I have a strong suspicion the language will cease to exist above ground in a decade or so.

Are people out there sending links to Memri.org or transcripts from speeches like this to people they know in the DoD, the State Dept. the Executive Branch and other arms of the government? It may be a good approach and would give bureaucratic slackers something useful to do when they goof off. A chain letter of sorts....

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Now consider the people of Islam...whetever else you may say about them...they don't lack spirit even aget 1400 years...Allah (swt)is most merciful in looking after his own.

They have limited weapons but they still *KNOW* they will rule the West...they are spiritually charged...and they think that nothing can stop them....they have the will of Allah behind them.

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Posted by: Naseem at February 7, 2006 06:09 AM

What a quaint way of looking at a population so dominated by illiteracy, wracked by shooting wars and general social dysfunction, surviving primarily on aid monies received from the developed world.

Courtesy of frontpagemag.com's warblog of Feb. 6/06, just for Naseem's benefit, how the 80% of the non-Muslim world sees "Muslim spirit".

I have to admit that the author is being slightly unfair. There were protests against the A-Q bombings in Egypt and Jordan, they were just pretty small in scale.:

A LITTLE BIT OF PERSPECTIVE ON THE CARTOON CONTROVERSY

Muslim outrage huh. OK ... let's do a little historical review. Just some lowlights:

* Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims m^rder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims m^rder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.
* A Muslim @ttacks a missionary children's school in India. K!ll six. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims sl@ughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims sh00t children in the back. No Muslim outrage.
* Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and k!ll athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims fire r0cket-propelled gren@des into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims m^rder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims m@ssacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims m^rder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage
* Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims be@t the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then h@ng them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.
* Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.
De@d children. De@d tourists. De@d teachers. De@d doctors and nurses. De@th, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims ... no Muslim outrage ... but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a b0mb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.

www.humaneventsonline.com

Immediately deport all non-citizen muslims back to their countries of origin.

Stop ALL aid, for any reason, to all muslim countries, organizations, persons, etc.

Perhaps they will kill each other & save the West the trouble.

If not.... Take them out.

finnschick - have you taken your pills today?

You seem to have a touch of chicken flu!

What these people don't understand is that they are dealing with the quintessential 5000 pound gorilla. What the stumbling block is, at this time, is the will to flex the muscle. All it takes is one more terrorist attack on the USA, and the gloves will likely come off.

Do they think that the small expiditionary force is the sum total of the west's might?

Remember, before 9/11 Afghanistan was a sovereign nation and the partial might of the US was levelled against that nation as it was believed to be aligned with Al-Qeida. The Muslim middle east may sign it's own death warrant. The peaceable citizens of those countries may want to give up the terrorists before they move the USA and the rest of the western world into doing something that will change the face of the middle east forever. The terrorists are successfully turning all of western europe against them. They may find themselves not only bombed back to the stone-age but occupied and governed by the US. The muslim world, due to the minor amount of military might shown to them believes that jihad is winnable. IT IS NOT. One single bomb in Syria, or Lebanon will effectively end the life of that country.

Naseem: much of what you said in your second to last post was correct.

However, you make the same mistake that all other muslims do: you assume the West's political leaders represent the sentiment of the populace.

Reality: every single leader in the west is a media whore. They stick their fingers in the wind and hope to catch whatever zephyr media movement so they can sound like they are smart and "moderate." They do this to win their re-elections. After they're out of office, they rake in egregiously enormous "speaker fees" at whacked out hippe colleges saying nothing but regurgitated "moderate" crap.

MORE Reality: The populace is not represented by its leaders. Know this, and know this well - underneath the whiny Euro leaders are Goths, Franks (remember Charles Martel?), Spaniards of the Inquisitions, Romans, Celts... bloodF***ingthirsty savages, all.

EVEN MORE Reality: Underneath the politically correct leader-whores of the American nation are patriots who went to bloody war against the most powerful nation in the world over taxes. We brutally bayoneted and blew each other up over how power is relegated at the state and federal levels. We're still here.

All of us peoples are still here. Your silly rampages over cartoons? What a joke! The time will come when we're done waiting for our leaders. Then you'll see blood flow. You'll find there are no 72 virgins waiting for you, but we'll help all those willing to seek Allah with passages to their fantasies.

We're laughing at you. But, please, keep your eyes on our leaders.

While I haven't read all of Naseem's comments, the ones she has posted recently have been very interesting. I'm not altogether convinced that we are right about her.

I believe she despises Islam but feels trapped by it so she won't say anything against it out of fear. She does not have the ability to move away from it and, even if she did, she fears an "honor killing."

That, or she actually is a liberal Muslim and hates how the radicals have usurped her religion.

In any event, I believe her posts are a clever way of telling us how to defeat Islam disguised as bravado.

Today's post is how we don't have the will to fight but they do. I think she's underestimating us (As did Osama, the Russians, the Germans, and the Japanese) but, in a way, she has a point. With the exception of the US, all the western nations have abolished the death penalty. If we don't have the balls to execute our own vicious criminals, how are we going to deal with these people?

The attacks of 9/11 should have galvanized the US and they did, for a while, but when Bush decided to take the battle to the wider ME, it split us right up again, to the point that there are people calling for Bush's impeachment because he listened in on a few AQ phone conversations without a warrant, ugh!

Bottom line I think Naseem is rooting for us to defeat Islam and set her free but, being a woman in Pakistan, she has to be very careful how she does it.

Talking about "freedom of expression" how would a religious christian feel and react if someone draw cartoons of Marry (the virgin) trying to prove that she was'nt really virgin or was single mother like most of westren women and christ had same status as most of westren children who know nothing about their father or fathers...??? will it hurt anyone's feelings?...it won't hurt the non-religious people and maybe most of such people visit this site...i guess it would only hurt the religious christians... but why...??? its "freedom of expression or speech" after all

STOP THE SPREAD OF THIS RELIGION

of the Moon God - Allah.

Sound off this message - call Muslims to hear this.

Your Arab overlords have deceived you!

Mohammed's father Abdullah (servant of Allah) had nothing to with the Bible. This God 'Allah' was the chief deity of 360 other Gods at the Kaaba (black stone) in Mecca and was once worshipped as a Moon God - hence the continued use of the Crescent in the religion of Islam.

Let’s hang this Moon God - back in the desert.

On a positive note maybe this message will help some Muslims to moderate their beliefs.

"In any event, I believe her posts are a clever way of telling us how to defeat Islam disguised as bravado."

I agree. (wink)

Talking about "freedom of expression" how would a religious christian feel and react if someone draw cartoons of Marry (the virgin) trying to prove that she was'nt really virgin

Posted by: Fedder at February 7, 2006 11:16 AM

Guess you didn't keep up on that kind of news??

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=12243
We have "speech codes" in colleges and "hate crimes" laws to protect minorities from abusive remarks. But newspapers that hail these codes throw a blanket of "artistic freedom" over scatological art that degrades religious symbols -- from putting a figure of Christ in a jar of urine to a "painting" of the Virgin Mary surrounded by female genitalia and elephant dung that hung in a Brooklyn museum.

SO YOU SEE WE HAVE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD??

What has happened in Europe is that the secular press, which loves to mock the beliefs and symbols of religious faith, has now insulted a deadly serious religion that answers insults with action.

NOW I DON’T AGREE WITH HIM I THINK HE IS A COWARD WHO BLOWS BUT THE POINT IS MUCH WORSE WAS DONE TO CHRISTIAN SYMBLES AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DID NOT GO AND KILL AND BURN FLAGS!!

Me I can see why people want to kick every mulsum out of their Country Just today Mulsums kill others in Iraq we see what is done in the name of your religion and you sit by and say nothing??

But someone publishes a CARTOON and you approve of Violence to get your point across that you want to control People who are not of your religion WELL WE DON'T BEHEAD PEOPLE WITH THEIR HANDS TIED BEHIND THEIR BACKS IN THE NAME OF OUR RELIGION BUT MULSUMS DO!!

So you can see and If you do a search you will see how the American People reacted to the Hate speech called art it was not Burning Buildings or riots or killing people.. I AM BEGINNING TO THINK THAT ALL MULSUMS ARE JUST SAVAGES BECAUSE THEY SIT BACK AND PEOPLE ARE KILLED IN THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGION AND WE HEAR NOTHING BUT PRINT A CARTOON AND LIKE SAVAGES TO BURN AND KILL??

What this monster says in his speech to other mulsums is he is going to starve 9000 of his own people to blame it on the Jews WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT THIS MONSTER?? OH I CAN'T HEAR DID YOU SAY SOMETHING??

Like what the hook monster said this is all a distraction for the real war WELL IS WAR WITH THE WEST REALLY WHAT YOU WANT??

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2002300,00.html
January 21, 2006
Suicide bombing is a legitimate tactic, Abu Hamza tells court

Abu Hamza sought to explain remarks that he had made in a video of a lecture delivered in Luton in 1997. Asked, during his second day of evidence, about the legitimacy of “martyrdom operations”, he said: “If it is the only way of preventing the enemies of Islam or resisting oppression, then that would be your only tactic of war.

SO Is what we are seeing is their army they have planted in the West>>

SILLY WOMAN NASSEEM says see wants the west to be mulsum well this will mean mercy will be gone??

Does the mulsum world really want a west with no mercy?

Who made it to help those in Indonesia when it was destroyed by a killer wave was it other mulsums ??

Who came to help others when the Killer Earthquake hit Pakistan was it other mulsums who flew in aid and was it mulsum doctors or mulsum Medicine??

Because the West will not become mulsum. Because of the riots over SHORT SKIRTS AND BEER we won’t have that BUT the pushing might just get the mulsums something they have not thought of?

You ask what could this be well think Hitler with a hate towards mulsums or a Stalin with a hate towards mulsums not a pretty picture is it so just keep pushing??

The West still is showing her mercy but soon she will open her eyes to see there can be none like in the story of Lot for these are the books which she reads and believes...

No nasseem you have got it wrong you have misjudged the people and Her mercy and Remember it was a person from France who said we will use our Nukes and you heard nothing from her people of OH you can’t do that No now you are hurting those on the Left you thought you had in your pockets your house of cards is falling now how far it falls is up to you??

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2029050_2,00.html
'Suicide bomb' protester in jail

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY[FREEDOM] TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM GIVE THE WORLD COURAGE TO STAND TOGETHER TO FIGHT THIS EVIL AMEN

profitsbeard

The article on H fuel is good - a real breakthrough.

Politics aside, this is where George Bush will have most of us on his side.

As with those Arabs ~ its 'Let's get the hell out of Dodge.'

I wrote a car dealership the other day - and told them it was time for change. We have already got duel fuel technology for cars. But with Hydrogen, there was the problem of storage and safety. If we could overcome these obstacles hydrogen could become one of the better alternative fuel sources of the future.

Oil is getting old - and it has gone to the Arabs heads. It’s time for us to move on now. Though I think wind and sun and hydrogen are only stop gaps in the fuel drive. As I don't think that we have any idea of what our fuel sources will look like in the future. When we analyze it, energy is everywhere; it is just how to get it and how to use it as efficiently as possible.

Here’s to the future.

We will give those Arabs their religion ‘back’, but no where as much money.

Arab Prince ~ by the side of the road ~ with sign:-
Get Ya’ Good Oil Cheap!!

One thing he's right about, I will be remorseful if Islime dominates the world.

Khaled Mash'al: "We apologize to our Prophet Muhammad, but we say to him: Oh Prophet of Allah, do not be saddened, your nation will be victorious.

Muhammad, can't hear you he is dead! But Christ can and he knows that you defame Him each and every time you bow down towards the rock in Mecca.
It is not to late turn from your false prophet and seek Jesus.