IslamOnline: Norway Criminalizes Blasphemy

Cowards.

I guess they will be rounding up "Life of Brian" videos for a nice bonfire.

On this IslamOnline article Qaradawi says that Muslims only want to live in love, peace and tolerance with others. Why can't these Norwegians see through this man who wants gays to be thrown off high buildings and who condones suicide bombings in Israel?

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Also, does this blasphemy law mean that any Swedes who enter Norway wearing those 'Cheap Mondays' jeans with the skull and upside-down cross on the back will be arrested?

"Law 150-A, which has been approved by parliament, criminalizes blasphemy and clearly prohibits despising others or lampooning religions in any form of expression, including the use of photographs,"

If this is really the law, what would stop now anybody to condemn the Quran? This book is really full of despising others and lampooning other religions!

Are there still some norwegians with some balls available to raise a complaint to the tribunals against the Quran?

lets hope 500,000 Norway freedom fighters wear t-shirts of the prophet and get sent down for blasphemy against a man of all ironies. They can't imprison everyone...

Are moslems not guilty of blaspemy when they call jesus only a prophet because he is prophet, priest, and king (ie god?). should they be fined?

I'd like to see some proof of this. How on earth can you "prohibit desising others"? If this does turn out to be true, it is very sad.

The whole idea of this legislation seems so bizzare and unlikely. The idea of Norweenies taking a stand against it even more so.

Its a hoax. Norway hasn't made any new laws regarding this issue. I just read several Norwegian online papers (I am Danish, so I understand Norwegian), and its apparently a misunderstanding.

Some priest member of a Norwegian dhimmi-delegation touring the middle east to "apologize" apparentely said something about the Norwegian racism law, and that was apparently interpreted as if Norway had made new laws banning blasphemy.

Great. Let's see them hang the young Satanists who burned the stave churches a few years ago. nothing could be more blasphemous than destroying the earliest monuments of the religion that turned the Norwegians into civilized folk after a few centuries of their being axe-swinging pirates who terrorized the rest of Europe.

hold on folks - it looks as if its a false story. the sources are all islamic.
(i've googled around)

harrys place has more:
http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2006/02/16/norway_criminalises_blasphemy.php

theres nothing about it on this norweigian news site:
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/latest100/

"that turned the Norwegians into civilized folk after a few centuries of their being axe-swinging pirates who terrorized the rest of Europe."

EXCUSE ME. if you really knew your history, you would find out that the Vikings were actually quite a civilised bunch of folks.

the vikings raiding monasteries and killing christians turns out to be nothing more than middle ages christian anti-pagan propaganda. i dont have links , but there was a great documentary about this a few years ago.

bear in mind that the vikings established trade routes all the way from norway to greenland and north america. and as far south as the black sea, odessa, and turkey. they were powerful, and very wealthy as a result. and pagan. and as such were a direct threat to the growth of christianity in northern europe. hence the viking-as-pirate propaganda.

we've a lot to be thankful for to the vikings in europe - for starters , they founded a heck of a lot of towns and cities throughout northern europe. in the wake of the collapse of the Roman Empire, it was the Vikings who re-established trade routes and planted the seeds of a new European civilisation.

"Under the new law, the crime of blasphemy will be punished either by a fine or imprisonment," Howika said, promising Qaradawi to fax him a copy of the law after being published in the country's official gazette.

What??? No beheadings?

"EXCUSE ME. if you really knew your history, you would find out that the Vikings were actually quite a civilised bunch of folks."

I ahve nothing against the Vikings. They were excellent sailors, and some of them actually managed to plunder their way to Baghdad (!!!).

Now, please DO NOT come with the argument that they were just hippy-looking peaceful traders because that is a big load of crap.

There is a great (old) British film called "Alfred the Great". I firmly recommend it. I could also suggest I study why in 1066, saxon king Harald Goodwinson ended up fighting two descendents of vikings (the Norwegian Harald Hardrade and the Norman William the conqueror) in two diferent battles to protect his realm.

Yes the vikings were excellent traders, but they were also ruthless warriors.

Here, the always excellent Warnerd has an article about the Vikings and the Danish cartoons:

http://www.exile.ru/2006-February-10/arise_ye_danes.html

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FRESNO -- By now, every unemployed Muslim on the planet is demanding that Den-mark be beheaded. On the news every damn night you see more of those Islamic demonstrations, with hordes of hairy guys raising their fists and chanting some crap.

Makes me wish for a divebomber, or better yet a cropduster -- if only I could have passed a pilot's physical.

Every time I see one of those crowds I can't help but think of the smell there. That would be the worst thing about getting caught in an angry Muslim demonstration, worse than even getting attacked and beaten. It's the smell I fear. All those unwashed armpits right over your head, bashing you and chanting about their Allah. You'd beg for death, you'd be moaning, "O believers, in the name of Allah, the Great, the Unshowered, the Never Heard of Speedstick, Whose Armpits Stink Like Anchovies in a Broken Fridge, will one of you find a rock or a sharp object to finish me off, already?"

So far the biggest action's been in Lebanon and Syria, where Danish embassies were burned down. As soon as I heard that I knew the burnings had been ordered by Assad's intel service, because NOTHING happens with "Islamic" on it in Beirut, never mind Damascus, unless the Syrian colonels in sunglasses OK it. Assad doesn't give a damn about Danish cartoons -- in fact, his Alawite clan doesn't even count as Muslim by most Imam's standards. He just wants to remind Bush that taking down Syria may be a cakewalk in stage one, just like Iraq was, but stage two, the occupation, will be way worse than Iraq is now, because Assad's spies are smarter and tougher than Saddam's goons ever were.

So in a way I'm kind of glad those Danish embassies burned, because maybe Bush will take the hint and not land us in another tar swamp. One's plenty. But let's be realistic. Bush's last contact with reality was his senior-year report card at Yale. He didn't enjoy it and hasn't been back since. He'll jump into Syria unless one of the Joint Chiefs draws a pistol and changes the C-in-C's mind.

I've seen the Danish cartoons online, and they're as tame and lame as you'd expect from 21st Denmark, a whole country working 24/7 to make sure it doesn't offend anybody, terrified it might be accused of being pro-Danish. God, we can't have that!

Scandinavians are so worried they might offend some third-worlder that they make perfect prey animals for any murderer or rapist lucky enough not to be blond and tall.

But I wonder, do you Danes ever feel pride in who you once were? I sure hope so. Because you truly were great, the most mobile and greedy (I mean that in a good way) of all the Vikings. You had the best of all worlds; you'd farm your little Danish pastures happily half the year, then when Summer came Dad would kiss the wife and kids (and cow) goodbye and sail off to slaughter any settlement their longboats could reach. And thanks to their shallow draft, the longboats could sail far upriver, so even inlanders so far from the ocean that the whole village had goiters were within range of the Danes.

"The Danes!" If somebody called out "The Danes!" in Northern Europe a thousand years ago, they didn't mean that some scraggy gloomy hippies were arriving at the backpacker hostel. Back then Danes weren't ashamed of being a warrior tribe, hacking lesser breeds from Ireland to Russia without mercy. It was a classic example of how you can combine socialism and entrepreneurship: all the men from a peaceful Danish village would polish up their axes -- most Vikings used axes, because they were cheaper than swords and useful around the farm -- and row off together.

Nobody could stop them. The sea was the only way to travel fast in those days, so the Vikings could burn, rape and rob any town long before the local lord could muster his garrison, never mind reach the town under attack. And then, like the good little social democrats they were, the Vikings would head home to cuddle the kids, pamper the livestock and spend the long nights making sure the wife produced another generation of raiders. If there's a better life, I can't imagine what it is.

Historians these days always emphasize how "the Vikings were essentially traders, not mere plunderers." Yeah, right. What that means is (a) professors hate to admit there was ever anything as glorious as the Vikings; and (b) if you met the Vikings' longboats with a huge army and looked ready to fight, the Danes were smart enough to switch to sales mode: "Hi there! We're peaceful visitors here to, uh, what's the word? 'Trade' -- yes, 'trade' with you wonderful people!" But let your guard down for a second, and they'd cut out the middleman -- literally. It was just good business. Nothing makes your accountant happier than hearing you got your stock at the ultimate wholesale price.

Like all good raiders, the Danes thrived on tricks. If feeding the enemy a flattering line of bullshit would bring an advantage, the Vikings could spread the verbal cow-pies better than a DoD "official spokesperson."

There's a famous case, the Battle of Maldon, 991 AD. For once, the locals -- in this case, the English -- had the advantage. A Viking raiding party was stuck on a little offshore island. The only way ashore was a causeway so narrow three men could hold it. The Vikings tried the John Madden approach first, bulldogging the causeway. But the Anglo-Saxons had put their best men there, and the Vikings limped back to the island, where some Dark Ages PR whiz came up with a great idea: appeal to the Anglo-Saxons' notion of a "fair fight."

They flattered the old Earl, reminded him of the noble Anglo-Saxon tradition of fair combat, and the old idiot finally agreed to let the Vikings march unopposed to shore so the two sides could stage the first, last and only Maldon Bowl. The game ended when the Vikings showed their gratitude to the old nobleman by hacking his head off and showing it to his men-at-arms. Which just shows, amateurs think about fair play, pros go with Al Davis's rule: "Just win, baby."

The Vikings showed the same practical attitude when one of their own leaders got killed. Most Dark-Ages European armies fought for a particular guy, and if he was killed they broke and ran, like the Earl of Maldon's men did. Not the Vikings. If Sven, the raid leader, got his head lopped off, the Danes shrugged and kept fighting. In fact, Sven's head probably mouthed the change in lineup as the enemy held it up: "Olaf, you take over, I think I've got a medical problem!"

That practical attitude freaked those superstitious villagers so much they broke and ran as if their own leader was dead.

Eventually coastal defenses improved enough to make Viking raids an unprofitable way to spend your summers. But the Danes still had plenty of fighting spirit left, so they applied it to wars closer to home.

Medieval Scandinavia was almost always at war, with either Denmark or Sweden trying to unite the three kingdoms -- including Norway, which was kind of the retarded little brother of the three -- into one big blonde war machine. Too bad they didn't manage it. A mighty kingdom of the tall blonds could have gone on a world-wide pillage tour, filling the world up with their tall blond genes, which could have made me a bit more appealing.

Instead it was the Mongols who raped their way from Manchuria to Bavaria, leaving little Genghises to grow up getting some very funny looks from their surviving neighbors.

I'm serious about these Mongol genes. DNA studies show that in Central Asia, 1 of every 200 men has a gene linking them to Genghis Khan. Not his army, but Genghis personally. Which means he got to know their great-great-great (etc.) grandmothers real well in those long evenings after a day's massacring. Every war nerd in the world likes to quote Genghis's famous line about how great it is to kill your enemies "and clasp their women to your chest," but now we know he wasn't just giving pep talks. He was one of those player-coach guys, never asked anything of his men he wasn't willing to do himself.

While Genghis was spreading himself around, the Danes were busy fighting other blondes, especially Sweden. Like I've said before, Sweden used to be a real military power, a beautiful force -- those amazing pikemen who walked into one of Peter the Great's fortress at Narva in the middle of a blizzard, vastly outnumbered, and astonished the Russian garrison so much they just surrendered out of sheer admiration. Yeah, those blue-and-yellow cross stickers used to fly proudly, not just signal "I'm a Swede, please don't hurt me!" on a hippie's backpack.

And the Danes used to whack those tough Swedes around pretty regularly in their non-stop family fights. Take the Sweden-Denmark war of the 1560s. Just to show you how much esprit de corps these countries used to have, the war was fought over Denmark's right to use three crowns on its flag! The Danes kicked the Swedes' "numerically superior" asses on land and sea, in a major naval engagement (1564) and land battle (1565). The war didn't "settle" anything; when countries are young and strong, wars are for their own sake, a matter of pride, staying in shape, keeping limber.

That's how it should be, and still is in the few decent places (like the Horn of Africa). But little by little, the Danes got depressed and progressive -- those two things are the same, if you ask me.

But I was surprised how late it happened. As recently as 1864 Denmark took on Prussia and Austria -- pretty much all of Germany. They lost, naturally, but there's no shame in that. The Danish army was only 40,000 men and fought pretty well in a series of holding actions that made the Prussians pay for every inch they pushed up the peninsula.

They sure made a better fight of it than the French did six years later, even though Denmark was in a hopeless position with none of the French army's money, manpower and strategic depth. The Danes were just overpowered by a much bigger opponent; the French were humiliated by a smaller one. (Sorry, French people. You know I'm not one of these fools who call you cowards, but facts are facts, and you know yourselves the Franco-Prussian War wasn't exactly your finest hour.)

Once the 20th century arrived, Denmark pretty much melted into liberal mush. I blame the Nazis, because they made militarism look bad. They ruined it for all of us except the jocks and business jerks who own the world now.

The one really interesting thing I read about recent Danish history is that one of the most important men in subatomic physics, Nils Bohr, was Danish. Hey, does that give any physics majors up there in Copenhagen any ideas? How hard can it be to cook a few nukes, especially when that Scandinavian welfare state will let you take a year or two off to surf the net looking for info? Just remember, make up a web identity before you hit those sites. Just pick the name of the most famous Imam in Denmark and use it as your avatar. Your pissant government won't take the hint, but the NSA will quickly take note. You get the info you need to make your nuke, and the Imam gets an all-expenses-paid vacation in sunny Cuba, and everyone comes out ahead.

Somebody up there must have the guts to do it. You can't all be hippie ghosts. Just think how amazingly cool it would be to put your homemade nuke into one of those disgusting Eurotrash backpacks. Doesn't your axe hand itch sometimes, Danes? Honor this Nils Bohr, and do it the way the Vikings would. Vikings with nukes. Dream of that as you fall asleep to the sound of the foreigners you've welcomed and coddled smashing your cities -- and maybe you'll wake up sane again, to a dream of nuclear-powered longboats heading south to turn the Holy Land into a glowing wasteland, like God intended. And by God, I mean Odin, not that Palestinian smooth-talker whose armpits are stinking up on the cross. When you had gods fit for Vikings, you were feared and respected; now you're just fucked.

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Peaceful my arse!

Saw this posted at another site from Norwegian state television.

"The head of the judiciary committee of the norveigan parliament Anne Marit Bjørnflaten denies the story.The norveigan parliament has not taken action in this matter,and she does not see it doing so in the future.The name of the priest is Olav Dag Hauge.He denies having spoken as quoted on Islam on line.Said he was speaking about a change in Norways anti-discrimmination laws,effective from 1/1 2006."

If you really knew your history, you would find out that the Vikings were actually quite a civilised bunch of folks.

Archduke, you're overlooking some little bits of history, such as Viking raid of coastal Europe and invasion of Britian.

I can tell you, MY ancestors didn't think they were all that civilized.

Appeasement 101
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0206/hanson021606.php3

"Peaceful my arse!"

i was just replying to an assertion that the Vikings were NOTHING MORE than axe swinging terrorist pirates - a common misconception.

"Let's see them hang the young Satanists who burned the stave churches a few years ago. nothing could be more blasphemous than destroying the earliest monuments of the religion that turned the Norwegians into civilized folk after a few centuries of their being axe-swinging pirates who terrorized the rest of Europe."

i never said that the vikings were a bunch of peace loving hippies. of course they were ferocious in battle - thats a given. but they were also highly cultured and advanced technologically (particularly in navigation and boat building)

oh well. nevermind. my point went over folks heads.

regards,

archduke
Proud of the Viking heritage of my city of birth (Dublin).

Archduke, we know exactly what you said, and you tried to enforce a historical lie that was popular in the revisionist days of the sixties and that is now losing interest even in its natural habitat - the PC world of the media. Please do not try to wiggle out of it. You sound exactly like a Muslim trying to deny the history of jihad.

Incidentally, I think that the one thing that the Norwegian government could not do and life would be to enforce a blasphemy law. Most Norwegians are atheists. The country is about to disestablish its state Lutheran church (and time enough too) and while all sorts of dhimmitude can apparently be enforced with no protest from a brainwashed electorate, the one thing that Norwegians would not tolerate would be a direct assault on their right to ridicule religion.

The equation is almost as simple as Einstein's (that dirty Jew son of a pig and an ape bastard):

No blasphemy, no freedom.

No freedom, Islam.

I choose blasphemy.

You f*cking minaret sucking morons!

This is a hoax,propagated my the Islamists,who are 'allowed' to tell lies, when ever Islam is to gain from that lie.Puppet Mohamed himself used lies to cheat the jewish kingdoms,when ever peace agreements are signed.Black tongued liers.

How sad for the Norwegians that their country is run by a bunch of spineless fools. I suppose if the Norwegians do not wake up their children and grandchildren will pay the price when the Muslims really take control. It is very sad for free speech and I am sure that any services about Islam, like the one at my church, would be considered criminal hate speech( I have the right to believe and share this but the Word of God commands us to still love them.) Islam is a lie and a deception but if the hate law ever passes through our Senate then such sermons or dialogues will be banned, even though the speaker only told us what the Koran and Haddith really teaches. Such laws still won't stop us from speaking the truth
I would rather see civil war then our freedoms restricted in such a harsh way.(I hope it never goes this far) In our society the Muslims can likewise criticize other beliefs or religions but the day we lose this right to speak in our churches, Mosques, and Synagogues then we have truly stepped into tyranny and our sacred constitution will be dead.
Freedom is fragile and I see our nation going down the slippery slope of tyranny. Let not allow this great experiment, American democracy, to die. The first and second Amendment promises us freedom of relgion, freedom of speech and freedom of expression and these values are worth fighting for whoever the enemy of freedom is. If I cannot dialouge with or critisize any belief system, philosophy or religion then we truly have stepped into tyranny and our nation is lost.
For this I have one thing to say!
"Give me Liberty or give me death"
WAKE UP AMERICANS!!!
These type of laws could come here someday.

Paolo says Norweigians are atheists,and the government will not pass a blasphemy law. They say even the Danish people are leaning toweards atheism.There is a danger of the penitration of Islam,as the humans are naturally inclined spititualy .Or who knows, the recent Cartoon controvercy would revert their atheistic ideals,and once again ,more and more Lutheran churches may spring up in these two countries!.Let us hope for the best.

Rafia, the reason why I said that it was "time enough too" that the Norwegian State Church were disestablished, is that I am a devout Christian. I regard the very idea of a State Church as an invention of the Devil, and take the separation of State and Church, in that sense, very seriously indeed. The notion of the State dictating to the Church revolts me. As for Norway, to have the dying Lutheran Church forced to live on its own resources could only do it good. Some Norwegians may convert to Islam, but I doubt that will be more than the ordinary few disgruntled or disturbed types who resort to the Prophet PBUH in Western countries. It seems more likely to me that we may witness an explosion of Evangelical free churches and perhaps even Orthodox and Catholic conversions.

Paolo,thanks for your comments. As you said,we are going to see the explosion of churches procliming "Jesus as Lord"(forget about the denominations,as the common golden thread running through these sects are 'Jesus'). Unlike the Islamists,even the Western atheists behaves so civilised,humane,caring for others,as they were all brought up for generations in the Christian mould.
After Sep 11, Godless Amercia witnesed a great breath taking revival in Christianity,which helped Bush to become president. They wield so much power in America.Just imagine, if all the Christian powers,along with peace loving Jews ,Shiks,Budhists,and Hindus of USA,Canada,Australia,and Europe join with one vioce, against these jihadies,we can copleatly eradicate them..