Jordan: Editors arrested over cartoons

things have escalated in beirut to rioting in the christian areas - church attacked. cars damaged.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=77737

The media by deliberately suppressing this outrageoes behavior is hastening the demise of what little credibility it has left.
Where's the blogstorm on the lebanese incidents? Any citizen journalists got news on the ground/pictures etc?

The violence erupting from these cartoons is just more evidence of the vile coming from islam,I wonder how many cartoons were made about Jesus that people found offending???

Did these people set fire to the printers???

This may be a wake up call to the rest of the civilized world.

Is "insulting Muhammad" really a crime in Jordan?

If it is, then there's really no freedom there at all.

If it isn't, and only the word of the King got these editors arrested, then there's really no freedom there at all.

Aided and abetted by the American State Department, Abdullah of Jordan has just been touring America as part of thegovernment's effort to continue to insist that Islam is a "noble religion" (see that State of the Union message). Why Abdullah? Well, because it had to be. True, Abdullah had previously sent around, or the State Department, which is the book ing agent for all this Arab and Muslim feelgood propoaganda, had already facilitated the visits of other Jordanians. There had been his "Palestinian" wife, of course, whose good looks make up for her stout defense of the "Palestinian" cause, which is to say the Lesser Jihad against Israel. Let's not forget the widow of King Hussein, Queen Noor, with her feelgood-and-uplift contribution to the world of meretricious letters, with taht book she may even have had a hand in writing, but at least it was signed by her -- that ludicrous "Act of Faith."

But the Arabs and Muslims are down to Abdullah. Saint Sadat is dead. Everyone knows Mubarak is a plutocrat and crook, and the farce of the election he held, where the Muslim Brotherhood was kept down only by fancy electoral footwork that would have made Mayor Daley or Tammany Hall blush, has not made him into a democrat. Possibly if Mubarak's good-looking slicker-than-slick son inherits Egypt, as the Mubarak regime has been hoping, he can go on these little tours and talk gravely of what a "staunch ally" Egypt has always been to the United States, and no one will think to ask him a question that apparently is not obvious: "Since Egypt is a world center of anti-American propaganda in the press and television, and its people full of expressed hatred for America, please list a few examples of Egypt being a staunch ally, would you?" Now that Prince "We are all corrupt men of the world and understand how things happen and would you like another glass of this really excellent port" Bandar has been banished, the sinister faced Prince Turki, made even more sinsiter by the contrast between his soft voice and the obvious mendacity of his words, the man whos erved, amusingly, as a classic stage villain for tens of millions of viewers, when the camera daggers-and-dishdashas Prince Turki, who appeared like the movie villain, glimpsed for a moment by the camera, at that same State of the Union speech, about which the Prince, in dishdasha-and-dagger form, said afterwards he, Turki, would have to have a word with the President to find out just what this energy independence stuff was all about.

And if the Egyptians and Saudis can't do the smiling public relations, it surely can't be Assad or Ahmadinejad or Khaddafy or the Algerian generals or anyone else. No, it's left up to Abdullah.

And if he makes remarks like the one he makes above --"Jordan's King Abdullah II said yesterday that insulting the Prophet Mohammed was 'a crime that cannot be justified under the pretext of freedom of expression' he will merely remind us how every far, despite his Deerfield days, despite his good-looking outwardly westernized wife and manners, in the end he, too, is both a soldier in the Army of Islam -- and, in a way, its prisoner.

No, Abdullah is going to have to do all the touring for a while.

Insulting Mohammad 'is' a crime. Unless you do it twice , which turns a crime into a blessing. Keep those insults comming untill everyone is blessed. It is Allahs way, and he knows best...

"Keep those insults comming untill everyone is blessed"

Unlike our foe, we tend to be an impatient lot. So why waste our time "blesssing" everyone individually, when it's much more efficient to use WMD's...... Witticisms of Mass Degradation.

The Dannish cartoonists deployed a WMD and it looks like they work fine.

That was a short lived fight by the "moderates" against the "extremists"...

I deplore how so many posters on so many websites (both here and elsewhere) held this publication of a couple of the cartoons in Jordan as a great example of the "moderates" of Islam --

I argue with their analysis in the first place -- but even accepting their delusional interpretation, how long did this "moderate" push-back last against the "extremists"?

A few days -- at best a few days.

There is no moderation in Islam -- it's a downhill proposition...

Islam's few quiescent periods in its history are as good as it gets, folks.... As good as it gets, and it's downhill from there...

I thought this editor would have been assassinated by now.

I guess they wanted to have an official execution.

The West needs to remind Islam:

No Freedom, no peace.

And that they have build their ideal of a global theocratic kingdom on slavery and submission. Poor bricks compared to liberation and enlightment and joy and creativity and a future as open as the eyes of the West are becoming.

To hell with the Koranic madness.

Let the Imperialistic Islamicists threaten us more, and wake more dozing p.c. suckers to the "Noble religion" horsesh*t.

Thank your Denmark!

The 'smelling salts' the West needed turned out to be 12 little cartoons!

Now let's get Voltaire's classic play "Mohammed- or Fanatiscism" revived on broadway!

We can not enrage the Middle-East especially the leaders because whether you like or not we need their oil. Even if we were to start developing real alternatives to oil like ethanol and bio-diesel, it would still take many years to do so, therefore, at least for now we need to continue pampering people like Abudallah. Plus, Arab businessmen have billions invested in our economy, we have hands tied, for now. One day we will wash our hands clean- hopefully.

"We can not enrage the Middle-East especially the leaders because whether you like or not we need their oil."

"...at least for now we need to continue pampering people like Abudallah. Plus, Arab businessmen have billions invested in our economy, we have hands tied.."
-- both from the same posting above

There is no need to coddle, pampber, or otherwise indulge sellers of oil. It is all they have. They have nothing else. Had they managed to create modern economies, with other sources of income, were they not completely dependent on the outside world for modern technology, consumer goods, medical care, higher education, and armies of wage-slave workers (look at who does the work in Saudi Arabia and the sheikdoms, from the low-level female house-slaves from Asia, to the upper-echelon American and European desk-slaves), it might be different. They cannot conceivably stop selling oil.

Oil is not, and never has been, a real political weapon. It has only been used to buy political power, by outright bribery to Western officials, and to pay the salaries of an army of Westeern apologists. There is no other conceivable oil weapon. If the United States were tomorrow to cut off all relations with Saudi Arabia, and what's more to attempt to ban all buying of oil from Saudi Arabia, what would be the result? Objectively it would be the same as if Saudi Arabia had cut relations, and had tried to ban the selling of its oil to the United States? In either case it would mean little. For oil is fungible. The Saudi oil that was not allowed to be sold, whether by the producer or the consumer, to the United States, would go elsewhere, and in turn that would displace other oil that would then be available for the American market, and so on.

Mere repetition of the phrase "oil weapon" does not create an oil weapon. The phrase has been used since 1973, by partisans and hirelings of the Arabs, to derive extra-economic gains from the oil-consuming nations. Those who personally or corporately going to benefit from appeasement of the Arabs -- certain individuals and corporations do come to mind -- were of course perfectly willing to echo this notion of an "oil weapon" so as to scare governments into doing Saudi (and other Arab) bidding. But it made no sense. It made the reverse of sense. And what's more, it prevented the governments of the Western world from seeing Saudi Arabia as the permanent enemy it always has been to the Infidel world, whatever the differences within that Infidel world, and prevented the imposition of taxes, on gasoline and other uses of oil, that could have helped to dampen oil use and to recapture oligopolistic rents, by forcing the Saudis to reprice their oil at a lower level, in order to keep the dampening of demand from becoming too great.

As for that last pont, about "billions" being invested in our economy, that raises one other issue. During World War II the United States quickly seized all enemy-owned assets, whether held by Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, or by individuals from those two countries. The more Saudi and other Arab money is invested here, and can be seized (especially if in illiquid assets, or otherwise hard to get rid of at a moment's notice) the better. All the more reason for the Saudis and others to be scared.

In the same way, if they put their money into luxury developments in Dubai or elsewhere, those tall towers, those palaces everywhere, become targets for some future implacable and unforgiving Infidels. When they had only Bedouin tents, targets were harder to find. Now with that oil bonanza, they can either stick the money in the Western world, often in illiquid or nearly-illiquid assets, or spend it at home, where the more they put up, the more hostages to our bombs and missiles they will offer. And there is nothing they can do -- they can't ever stop selling the oil, because it is all they have. And they can't possibly keep all their money entirely liquid. Not only real estate, commercial and residential (think of all the villas and swank apartments that rich Arabs own all over the Western world, just dying to be seized), and gold bars (if stashed in that West), but also bank accounts can be seized.

There is nothing in response that they can do. Nothing. Of course, that won't prevent individual hirelings of the Arabs from insisting that they hold all the cards. What would you expect them to say? What have they been saying, so misleadingly and dangerously, for the past one-third of a century?

The jig is up.

to "king abduhhh-la"
here is my freedom of expression, fuck muhammed.
arrest me motherfucker

OK,
Can someone point me to the three cartoons that were added to the original 12? And can someone explain (1) If someone did another 3 cartoons to increase the outrage, how did they reproduce the cartoons and let everyone in the middle east see them if it's against the law and religion to reprint them? Why would someone go through the trouble of making three additional and (from what I've read here) worse cartoons, if the intended audience will never see them?

Shame on the U.S. if these aren't front page. I'm thinking PROJECT CENSORED '06 year book will have some interesting comments about this whole episode.

I think you all will find the following web site interesting.

danishdelivery@blogspot.com

Literally, as buildings are burning around the world, as muslims turn out in droves to spit about how much they hate the American Way of Life, we can respond by sending a huge "thank you."

And please, tell everyone you know about it.

It would be great to see thousands of Danishes show up at embassies on valentines day.

Check it out.

http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=16369

The two Jordanian editors have been bailed, and are free for now.

...and all this behavior by the Muslims only
ads further credence when the Bible stated that
(the Arabs whom are decendants of Ishmael)
"and they will act like a wild man"