This is what the cartoon rage is really all about: criminalizing criticism of Islam in the West, which would, of course, allow jihadists a virtually free hand. From the BBC, with thanks to archduke:
Muslim scholars who gathered for an emergency meeting have called for changes to the law to stop images of the Prophet Muhammad being published.Members of the Muslim Action Committee (MAC) who met in Birmingham called for changes to the Race Relations Act and the Press Complaints Commission code.
They are to stage a protest march in London on 18 February, expected to attract 20,000 to 50,000 people....
Shaikh Faiz Saddiqi, who chaired the meeting, said Wednesday's gathering of about 300 Islamic religious leaders was the largest meeting of its kind he knew of in his 25 years of living in the UK....
Mr Saddiqi said they had concluded they wanted the Race Relations Act modified to give Muslims the same protection as Sikhs or Jews.
He also said the Press Complaints Commission code of conduct should be tightened to prevent publication of any images of Muhammad, but added the clerics accepted criticism and discussion of Islam should be allowed.
Sure. As long as it's favorable.
He said the code was a voluntary code to ensure the media treated people with respect and called for that respect to be shown to Muslims, whose religion forbids any pictorial depiction of Muhammad...."Enough is enough, we have to get back to being a civil society.
"What kicks can you get out of seeing this caricature, except to insult the Prophet of Islam?"
He praised the UK media for not publishing the cartoons.
Good dhimmis!
I am going to repeat the letter I received from the Barnabas Fund within the last hour.
I would also urge everybody to read the book Islam in Britain available here http://www.barnabasfund.org/islaminbritain.htm for £5.99 + 95pP&P.
I know that I go on a bit about this book and I am not on commission attached to its sale, I genuinely believe it is a valuable work.
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UNITED KINGDOM
09 February 2006
BRITISH MUSLIMS CALL FOR LAWS TO PROTECT MUHAMMAD, AND PROTEST
DANISH CARTOONS
Three hundred Islamic religious scholars in the UK are calling for changes in the law to stop publication of any images of Muhammad the prophet of Islam. They want amendments to the Race Relations Act to give Muslims the same protection as Sikhs and Jews. They also want the Press Complaints Commission (PCC) to tighten their self-regulatory code of practice to prevent the publication of pictures of Muhammad.
The scholars gathered yesterday for an emergency meeting under the auspices of the Muslim Action Committee (MAC) at an Islamic Centre in Small Heath, Birmingham. Chairman, Shaikh Faiz Saddiqi, commented that it was the largest meeting of its kind which he remembered in 25 years living in the UK.
These calls come in the wake of international Muslim outrage about the publication of caricatures of Muhammad in Danish and other European newspapers.
TWO MORE RALLIES PLANNED TO PROTEST DANISH CARTOONS
According to the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), the MAC are organising a protest rally in London on Saturday 18th February, and expect 20,000 to 50,000 people to attend. A week earlier, on Saturday 11th February, another protest rally, also responding to the Danish cartoons, is being called by Britain's two largest Muslim groupings, the mainstream Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) and the more radical Muslim Association of Britain (MAB). According to the MAB, "non-Muslim groups and figure-heads" will be joining the rally to be held this Saturday under the title "United Against Incitement and Islamophobia".
TWO ALARMING ASPECTS
Dr Patrick Sookhdeo, International Director of Barnabas Fund, comments:
"There are two very alarming aspects of the MAC's demands. Firstly, we all have to accept the possibility of being offended, as part of the package of free speech. Why should there be different rules for Muslims compared with followers of other faiths? If we pass laws or even simply create a new PCC code of practice specifically to protect Muhammad, I fear it could prove to be the thin end of the wedge. From self-imposed censorship we could soon move to more serious situations. In Pakistan there has been a mandatory death sentence since 1991 or "defiling the name" of Muhammad. The irony is that in earlier centuries there were many Muslim pictures of Muhammad, some of which can be seen in museums both in the West and in the Muslim world.
"Secondly, I believe that the cartoons furore is being used as a pretext for another legal battle. It was only nine days ago that the House of Commons unexpectedly voted to pass the Racial and Religious Hatred Bill in a form which does not provide the protection for Muslims which the government had intended. If the MAC are now calling for changes in the Race Relations Act, this seems to me an attempt to get themselves the privileged legal position the government had promised them by another method. It is nothing to do with the cartoons.
"I am totally opposed to attacks on Muslims or anyone else. We must protect people, but not ideas. I am therefore strongly opposed to any changes to exsiting legislation which already protects the whole population. I urge all readers to work to stop these changes from being implemented and to ensure that the level playing field is not tilted."
LETTER-WRITING CAMPAIGN AND MORE INFORMATION
Guidelines on how to write a letter on these issues will be on the Barnabas Fund website in a few hours time. www.barnabasfund.org
Barnabas Fund will be providing further information as it becomes available.
PRAYER ITEMS
* Pray urgently for British law-makers and decision-makers that they will have wisdom and discernment to recognise the full implications of the issues here.
Pray that liberal British Muslims will lead their community towards an appreciation of genuine free speech and away from seeking special privileges and protections which no other community has.
In the late 90s, Muslim interest groups tried to get a law passed in the US House of Rep. making it illegal to quote from a "Holy Book" for "political" reasons. Obviously those involved wanted the Quran immunized from political scrutiny, proving they are well aware of its intolerant contents.
Fortunately, the effort came to naught...(one wonders though, how long before such a proposal will resonate with our craven, obsequious politicians). Anyway, Robert is 100% correct here...the cartoon controversy isn't about respect or lack-of, it is about the transference of Muslim mores and legal strictures into the Western world.
OT, David Horowitz has come out with his new book 'The Professors; The 101 Most Dangerous Academics in America.'
Good stuff. He quotes the men and women that are teaching our children about the world...and some of these quotes are hair-raising in their absurdity and anti-Americanism.
From the Drudge Report, this is the mentality and culture (if you could call it that) that we are up against:
http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=Ashura&ei=UTF-8&fl=0&fr=sfp&c=news_photos
We must never give in to this. No blasphemy laws. Hate laws are also dangerous. Freedom of speech, press, and internet must stand. Europe cannot give in either. Australia should give its citizens guns back.
In 1997, CAIR wanted to remove the carving of mohammed in the Supreme Court. It said islam does not allow it. cair and muslims, I don't care what Islam allows. You do not dictate to us. This country, our founding, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, has nothing to do with Islam and never will. We were founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Western Civilization was built on these principles. You do not have a civilization, just hate, murder, intolerance. Do you understand? If a muslim majority gains control, it will implement sharia law. It will never happen in the U.S. Never.
Europe needs to wake up and loose its neutered and effeminate nature. And in the U.S. we cannot count on the left and even some RINOs. I really think that it is high time for disengagement and deterrence. It is time to stop playing nice. Every country where there is a muslim majority is a basket case. I would go anywhere near it. If you are not a Muslim you are doomed there. The press will not report it. These are all facts. Just do a Google search here and a little research there. Read a book here (preferably old sources) and open your eyes. England has been a huge disappointment in all of this. saudi arabia doesn't let Jews and Christians even practice in public. Send the scum saudis back since it is a one way street with those wahabi pigs. All of them. Drill in ANWR. Build more refineries, solar power, clean coal, hydraulic power, wind power.
My life has been threatened and I've had enough. I've had friends and acquaintances killed by these scumbags and it will never stop unless we stop them.
this all ties in to what one of Ken Livingstones "friends" has been saying on Qatari TV:
http://memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1026
"The governments must be pressured to demand that the UN adopt a clear resolution or law that categorically prohibits affronts to prophets – to the prophets of the Lord and His messengers, to His holy books, and the religious holy places."
here's a picture and article about this cleric visiting London:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/19/nterr19.xml
hmm.. interesting
The Times reports that the BNP is going to organise a counter-demo - cops are worried about violence:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2031794,00.html
but the bnp themselves have said they arent and are expressly telling BNP members NOT to do any sort of counter demo:
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=783
"Any violence which breaks out will be laid at the door of the BNP; TV camera crews will be directed to capture footage of union flag waving protestors being arrested and focus on any placards which bear the BNP logo. At least that is their plan. The very fact that we are advising our supporters not to attend may whip the rug from under the feet of those that seek to denigrate us."
we live in interesting times.
interesting - the bnp are really running with this anti-islam thing, emulating what the far-right in Europe have been doing:
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=770
When freedom of speech is under attack, as it clearly is, I believe we need to express precisely those thoughts and ideas that others want to forbid. If it is art, than we need more of it. I wouldn’t exaggerate since the truth is too important to distort even for a righteous cause. I’d argue for the truth: Mohammad was a violent man who plundered, slaughtered, terrorized, and conquered.
Let’s remember that we are fighting for the truth. Let’s shout it loud and clear. And anyone who wants to suppress our message is seeking to suppress the expression of the truth.
We can point out that laws should respect the expression of any ideas, true or not. But when they are true, we shouldn’t allow that to recede to the background. The cartoons are essentially true. Sure they are caricatures but political cartoons express the truth in a stilted manner. I prefer straight hard-hitting prose. But let’s come back to the subject matter and talk about it. Islam offends … not the cartoons. Mohammad is offensive … not the cartoons.
A lie by omission is still a lie. To be silent or to suppress the publication of these cartoons perpetuates a lie. Our political leaders should stop lying, the media should stop lying. Let the truth ring free.
All moslems go back to your moslem countries of origin, you will find the 7th century there.
Our political leaders should stop lying, the media should stop lying
I might sound like a broken record but:
"The American (& British) Establishment is pro Islam and pro Iranian. This is one more proof. We can't count on help from Bush. We can only pressure our Congressmen to do what's right. And we must recruit our neighbors.
If the BNP demonstrate, all BBC cameras will be on them, and this will be portrayed as "extremism on both sides". It is best they stay away.
indeed - the lesson of the past few weeks for the BNP, is that they dont need to do ANYTHING , except just stand back, and let the Muslims burn flags, burn embassies and act all "offended".
my bet is that the next straw that breaks the camels back will be the sight of Muslims burning the British flag during this "demonstration" on the streets of London.
with cameras running. mark my words - it will happen. And it will seriously piss off the British public.
Founding Forefather,
I'm with you on this. I just scoped the Drudge post and it is the perfect example of a savage group of people. This "Ashura" is totally barbaric. I also noticed the picture of the women looking from inside homes. the looks on their faces says a lot. "What are these idiots doing?!"
I also saw the craving of the pedophile prophet on the Law Givers sclupture.
I just can't believe the nerve of CAIR to try and dictate to OUR Supreme Court about what we do in OUR COUNTRY. This is a sure sign for every able bodied American to take arm and dig in. We had better be on our toes. The enemy is in our face, and they're forming up a big spit wad to blow in our face. We had better be ready to stop them, or cut them off before they can act.
If CAIR manages to get enough Muslims elected to office, the only way that I'll follow shraia law is only after they pry my guns from my cold, dead fingers and take my guns from off my lifeless body! PERIOD!!!
This is America, "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave!!!" Not Islamofecesland.
America is a Christian Country no matter what CAIR and the leftist say. America is not Islimic!!! If you Islamofeces and leftist want Islime so bad, then pack up and go to Islamofecesland. That's where Islime is preached and taught. But then, where would you find the air conditioner for the heat? The heaters to keep you warm during those cold desert nights? Where will you leftists get your early morning cup of coffee from Starbucks? Both CAIR and the leftist know what side their bread is buttered on. They don't want to go back to Islamofecesland any more than any clear thinking American or westerner.
But that dosen't mean that we let our guard down nor our weapons. Be they firearm or the inkpen to the computer.
The only way America follows sharia law is when every freedom lover in the world is dead.
"Nuts ot Islam," "Nuts to CAIR," and "Nuts to the Islimic apeasers!!!"
"Give Me Libeerty or Give Me Death!!!"
"I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees!"
God Bless America!!!
No changes need be made to the law. The truth will suffice, thank you.
How did it come to such a pass, that such fevered demands from people afflicted with this belief system can be considered at all seriously?
I have my own suspicions: Matthew 12:43-45.
The West has forgotten its birthright.
"They are to stage a protest march in London on 18 February, expected to attract 20,000 to 50,000 people" Quote..
Is this number above for just the protesters?
If so, what happens if this gets out of control, like some brave brit showing up with a self drawn artwork of Mo, and his child bride?
50 Sayings of Muhammad:
Words of Wisdom from Prophet Mohammad
1.. "Acquire knowledge, it enables its professor to distinguish right from wrong; it lights the way to heaven. It is our friend in the desert, our company in solitude and companion when friendless. It guides us to happiness, it sustains us in misery, it is an ornament amongst friends and an armour against enemies." (widely attributed to the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh))
2.. "A Muslim who plants a tree or sows a field, from which man, birds and animals can eat, is committing an act of charity." (Muslim)
3.. "There is a polish for everything that takes away rust; and the polish for the heart is the remembrance of Allah." (Bukhari)
4.. "What actions are most excellent? To gladden the heart of human beings, to feed the hungry, to help the afflicted, to lighten the sorrow of the sorrowful, and to remove the sufferings of the injured." (Bukhari)
5.. "The most excellent Jihad is that for the conquest of self." (Bukhari)
6.. "If you put your whole trust in Allah, as you ought, He most certainly will satisfy your needs, as He satisfies those of the birds. They come out hungry in the morning, but return full to their nests." (Tirmidhi)
7.. "When Allah created his creatures He wrote above His throne: 'Verily, my Compassion overcomes my wrath." (Bukhari & Muslim)
8.. "Allah will not give mercy to anyone, except those who give mercy to other creatures." (Abdullah b. Amr: Abu Daud & Tirmidhi)
9.. " 'Son, if you are able, keep your heart from morning till night and from night till morning free from malice towards anyone.' Then the Prophet said: 'O my son! This is one of my laws, and he, who loves my laws verily loves me.' " (Bukhari)
10.. "Say what is true, although it may be bitter and displeasing to people." (Baihaqi)
11.. "Kindness is a mark of faith, and whoever is not kind has no faith." (Muslim)
12.. "When you see a person who has been given more than you in money and beauty, look to those, who have been given less." (Muslim)
13.. "If you do not feel ashamed of anything, then you can do whatever you like." (Abu-Masud: Bukhari)
14.. "O Lord, grant me your love, grant me that I love those who love you; grant me, that I might do the deeds that win your love. Make your love dearer to me than the love of myself, my family and wealth." (Tirmidhi)
15.. "It is better to sit alone than in company with the bad; and it is better still to sit with the good than alone. It is better to speak to a seeker of knowledge than to remain silent; but silence is better than idle words." (Bukhari)
16.. "Verily, a man teaching his child manners is better than giving one bushel of grain in alms." (Muslim)
17.. "Whoever is kind, Allah will be kind to him; therefore be kind to man on the earth. He Who is in heaven will show mercy on you."(Abu Daud: Tirmidhi)
18.. "It is difficult for a man laden with riches to climb the steep path, that leads to bliss." (Muslim)
19.. "Once a man, who was passing through a road, found a branch of a tree with torns obstructing it. The man removed the thorns from the way. Allah thanked him and forgave his sins." (Bukhari)
20.. "Who are the learned? Those who practice what they know." (Bukhari)
21.. "Allah has revealed to me, that you must be humble. No one should boast over one another, and no one should oppress another." (Iyad b. Hinar al-Mujashi: Muslim)
22.. "Who is the most favoured of Allah? He, from whom the greatest good comes to His creatures." (Bukhari)
23.. "A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity." (Muslim)
24.. "A Muslim who meets with others and shares their burdens is better than one who lives a life of seclusion and contemplation." (Muslim)
25.. "Serve Allah, as you would if you could see Him; although you cannot see Him, He can see you. (Umar: Muslim)
26.. "Allah does not look at your appearance or your possessions; but He looks at your heart and your deeds." (Abu Huraira: Muslim)
27.. "The best richness is the richness of the soul." (at the field ofTabuk, Syria, Rajab 9 A.H.: Bukhari)
28.. "Keep yourselves far from envy; because it eats up and takes away good actions, like a fire eats up and burns wood." (Abu Daud)
29.. "Much silence and a good disposition, there are no two things better than these." (Bukhari)
30.. "Verily, Allah is mild and is fond of mildness, and He gives to the mild what He does not give to the harsh." (Muslim)
31.. "Whoever loves to meet Allah, Allah loves to meet him." (Bukhari)
32.. "Once the Prophet was asked:'Tell us, which action is dearest to Allah?' He answered:'To say your prayer at its proper time.' Again he was asked: 'What comes next?' Mohammed said: 'To show kindness to parents.' 'Then what?' he was asked, 'To strive for the cause of Allah!' " (Ibn Masad: Bukhari)
33.. "When two persons are together, two of them must no whisper to each other, without letting the third hear; because it would hurt him." (Bukhari & Muslim)
34.. "Verily, it is one of the respects to Allah to honor an old man." (Bukhari)
35.. "All Muslims are like a foundation, each strengthening the other; in such a way they do support each other." (Abu Musa: Bukhari & Muslim)
36.. "Strive always to excel in virtue and truth." (Bukhari)
37.. "You will not enter paradise until you have faith; and you will not complete your faith till you love one another." (Muslim)
38.. "He, who wishes to enter paradise at the best gate, must please his father and mother." (Bukhari & Muslim)
39.. "I am leaving two things among you, and if you cling to them firmly you will never go astray; one is the Book of Allah and the other is my way of life." (Farewell Pilgrimage: Muatta)
40.. "Allah is One and likes Unity." (Muslim)
41.. "The best of alms is that, which the right hand gives and the left hand knows not of." (Bukhari)
42.. "The perfect Muslim is not a perfect Muslim, who eats till he is full and leaves his neighbors hungry." (Ibn Abbas: Baihaqi)
43.. "He is not of us who is not affectionate to the little ones, and does not respect the old; and he is not of us, who does not order which is lawful, and prohibits that which is unlawful." (Ibn Abbas: Tirmidhi)
44.. "No man is a true believer unless he desires for his brother that, what he desires for himself." (Abu Hamza Anas: Bukhari & Muslim)
45.. "To strive for the cause of Allah from daybreak to noon and sunset is better than the goods and enjoyment of the whole worldly life." (Bukhari)
46.. "Be not like the hypocrite who, when he talks, tells lies; when he gives a promise, he breaks it; and when he is trusted, he proves dishonest." (Bukhari & Muslim)
47.. "The proof of a Muslim's sincerity is, that he pays no heed to that, which is not his business." (Abu Hureira: Tirmidhi)
48.. "Do you know what is better than charity and fasting and prayer? It is keeping peace and good relations between people, as quarrels and bad feelings destroy mankind." (Muslims & Bukhari)
49.. "Conduct yourself in this world, as if you are here to stay forever; prepare for eternity as if you have to die tomorrow." (Bukhari)
50.. "The worldly comforts are not for me. I am like a traveller, who takes a rest under a tree in the shade and then goes on his way." (Tirmidhi)
With thanks to the Compiler: Dr.Shahid Athar `
Kindly recite Durood Shareef at least three times once you have gone through
“Allaahumma salli ‘ala Muhammad wa ‘ala Aali Muhammad kama salayta ‘ala aali Ibraaheem, wa baarik ‘ala Muhammad wa ‘ala aali Muhammad kama baarakta ‘ala aali Ibraaheem innaka hameedun majeed (O Allaah, send prayers upon Muhammad and upon the family of Muhammad as You sent prayers upon the family of Ibraaheem, and send blessings upon Muhammad and upon the family of Muhammad, as You sent blessings upon the family of Ibraaheem, You are indeed Worthy of Praise, Full of Glory).”
51. "He who discards his Islamic religion, kill him." Bukari
52. "Women are deficient in intelligence and religion." Bukari
53. "Two billy-goats won't knock their heads over it." Bukari (This was Muhammad's assurances to the killer of a pregnant woman who had ridiculed the Prophet in her verse)
Hatsheput:
While it is good to see a posting that presents virtuous words and notions that one might expect of Islam-Lite, one cannot but feel there's more to it than what you present (e.g. see Cornelius' posting immediately after yours).
As for the good and decency in the quotations you present, I freely acknowledgement that the words sound good. They are reminiscent of words spoken several hundred years earlier, succinctly and with far more authority, by a person who lived and died completely in accord with the virtues he espoused.
I am afraid that Mohammed comes off rather poorly in comparison. If I were him, I'm not sure I'd want my face published in the newspapers either.
Can anyone tell me why that person keeps posting his list on topics? Is he under the delusion if you tell a lie often enough people will believe it? Actions speak louder than words and the violence the muslims have been showing the world shows us they are not a religion of peace. Islam is a death cult and the sooner it sinks in with all non muslims the better things will be.
54.."That is not dead, which can eternal lie
and with strange dreams, even death can die"
(Al Hazred)
/Apologies to H.P. Lovecraft
Kindly recite Durood Shareef at least THREE TIMES...
“Allaahumma salli ‘ala Muhammad wa ‘ala Aali Muhammad kama salayta ‘ala aali Ibraaheem, wa baarik ‘ala Muhammad wa ‘ala aali Muhammad kama baarakta ‘ala aali Ibraaheem innaka hameedun majeed"
Sure ... Right after I see Ted Kennedy do it once, after Happy Hour closes.
Well, I have learned by now that hatshepsut and his ilk have learned at least one thing from the West:
How to Copy/Paste.
I too can copy and paste. Hopefully this is a little more use. To my fellow Britons, as promised earlier in the thread from the Barnabas Fund.
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UNITED KINGDOM
09 February 2006
LETTER WRITING CAMPAIGN IN RESPONSE TO BRITISH MUSLIMS CALL FOR LAWS TO PROTECT MUHAMMAD
Three hundred Islamic religious scholars in the UK are calling for changes in the law to stop publication of any images of Muhammad the prophet of Islam. The Muslim Action Committee want amendments to the Race Relations Act to give Muslims the same protection as Sikhs and Jews. They also want the Press Complaints Commission (PCC) to tighten their self-regulatory code of practice to prevent the publication of pictures of Muhammad.
Two more rallies have been planned in response to the Danish cartoons to take place on 11th February and 18th February next. Some 20,000 to 50,000 people are expected to attend the rally on 18th February.
Barnabas Fund is asking concerned Britons to write to their MP and/or the Press Complaints Commission to urge them to preserve our hard won freedoms of speech and expression.
WRITING TO YOUR MP ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE RACE RELATIONS ACT
. If you do not know who your MP is or which constituency you live in you can find out by going to http://www.locata.co.uk/commons/
. Please send letters to the MP at:
House of Commons
Westminster
London, SW1A 0AA
. Be polite, brief and clear.
. Urge your MP to stand firm and not succumb to any pressure to change the law.
. Use as many of the points set out below as you wish. It is more effective if you can use your own words rather than reproduce what we have written.
. Ask your MP to bring your concerns before the appropriate department and to reply to you telling you what he or she has done. Please let us know their response.
. The Muslim Action Committee has not specified how it wants the Race Relations Act to be changed but has indicated that its aim is at the very least to protect Muhammad. The suggested points below are made on this basis.
Letters are much more effective than email. However, if you wish to contact your MP by email you can find out the address via
http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/alms.cfm
WHAT DO I SAY?
. Make it clear that you are very concerned that the Government will be pressurised by the Muslim Action Committee and other Muslim organisations into reopening the debate on freedom of speech and changing the law again.
. Say that the Racial and Religious Bill (passed on 31st January) strikes a right balance between maintaining freedom of speech and protecting individuals. You can make the point that the Bill was debated at length and all views were taken into account.
. Say that there should not be different rules for Muslims. All faiths should be treated equally.
. Make the point that if Muhammad's image is protected by amending the Race Relations Act it could lead to the suppression of any form of criticism of Muhammad and Islam with the imposition of legal penalties in the event of a breach. This could have severe repercussions for scholarly debate, preaching Christianity and other non-Muslim faiths and making known the needs of persecuted Christians.
. The Race Relations Act has nothing to do with religion. It protects Sikhs and Jews (and other people) against discrimination on the basis of their race. It does not prevent theological criticism of Sikhism and Judaism. It has nothing to do with religious protection of faiths from caricature. Therefore it is inappropriate to try to use this law for protecting Muhammad from insult.
. Because the Press Complaints Commission takes account of parliamentary comment, you may wish to raise some of the points below with your MP.
WRITING TO THE PRESS COMPLAINTS COMMISSION (PCC) TO ASK THEM NOT TO AMEND THEIR CODE OF PRACTICE
. Please send letters to the Press Complaints Commission at:
1 Salisbury Square
London, EC4Y 8JB
. Be polite, brief and clear.
. Use as many of the points set out below as you wish. It is more effective if you can use your own words rather than reproduce what we have written.
. By way of information, the aim of the Code is to protect the rights of individuals and the right of the press to know. It is self-regulatory and performs two functions. In the PCC's own words it"gives the industry a firm set of principles to guide it; and it gives the Commission a clear and consistent framework within which it can address complaints from members of the public".
Again, whilst letters are much better than email, the PCC's email address
is complaints@pcc.org.uk
WHAT DO I SAY?
. Say that the Code of Practice already includes guidelines relating to religious discrimination whereby the press "must avoid prejudicial or pejorative reference" to an individual's religion.
. Urge the PCC not to change its self-regulatory Code of Practice in order to protect Muhammad; say that Muslims should not be treated differently from those of other faiths.
. Say that the PCC makes it clear on its website that it does not want to act as a censor. On that basis the Code of Practice should not be tightened up as to do so would create self-censorship and favour one religious community over the rest.
. Say that the Code of Practice as it stands provides a successful self-regulatory system.
IF YOU HAVE TIME.
If you have time please also write to any contact you may have in any political party, the Press or anywhere else you think would have influence and urge them also to put pressure on the Government not to back down.
Please see above for examples of what should be said.
Geez Granny! I thought Catherine was posting.
...where is Cath lately, anyway?
hate shepsut-
And Hitler liked dogs and cream-filled cakes.
"The evil men do lives after them, the good is oft interred with their bones"
-William Shakespeare; JULIUS CAESAR.
While John Wayne Gacey [look him up] may have entertained children in cancer wards when he dressed-up as a clown, this charming behavior didn't quite negate the facts that when he went home he raped and murdered young boys and buried their bodies under his basement floor.
Mohammad evinced a similar schizophrenia.
I'll take Jesus, the Buddha, Lao Tse, Hypatia, Bahu Bali, Li Po, Mary Wollstonecraft or Thomas Paine.
The good they did wasn't cancelled by incidental mass-murder.
...where is Cath lately, anyway?
She was here yesterday.
It did go on a bit but the Barnabas stuff is useful. It's worked once already on the Race Hate legislation.
Granny, thank you for spreading the gospel, I will write and write till the last drop of my blood is used as ink. Despite the reply from my MP in the aftermath of my pleading with him to overturn the Muslim-orientated version of the Religious Hate Bill (he voted for!!!), in which he states: "It has a symbolic impact in reassuring Muslim communities who since 9/11 have felt particularly vulnerable and unprotected". What!!! The more we bomb you the more protection you give us! What a paranoia!
Is anybody - Anglicans for Isreal, Barnabas Fund organizing a counter-demo on the 18th????
Not that I know of. There was a link posted here a few days go inviting people to a freedom rally before this demo was announced. I had never heard of the organisation and couldn't get on to their main site.
The BNP have asked their supporters to stay away, to avoid adverse press coverage.
My MP voted against the Religious Hate Bill and said he had more post about it than any other issue so far since the election.
There is absolutely no way to have normal discourse with extreamist the only option is to systematically kill each and everyone.
Translation from Paris: the ISLAMISATION OF FRANCE
Trappes, 35 km of Paris: an islamist city
Seen on television last month:
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/islam/video/34176
I decided to give you the link to this impressive video about Trappes, a little town not far from Paris. I hope those of you who understand French will watch it. For the others, I decided to translate the main moments of the video as it really shows how a country gets islamised. A lot of French people have seen it.
First, the journalist tries to film a Muslim prayer in Trappes. People warn him: “if you stay here you will have big problems”. He cannot attend the end of the prayer and he has to leave. Later, a guy in the street threatens him: “What, you want to film what, you want to film the Brothers ? Go away ” etc.
A guy explains to the journalist: “In 20 years, everything has changed here. One cannot buy alcohol anymore. One cannot buy pork. Almost all the whites have left. Amost all the women are veiled. It is a pity because diversity has disappeared”.
The journalist goes to a Muslim book shop... the book seller is a Catholic convert, a radical Muslim (wearing a beard etc.). He only sells religious books about Islam, and he also sells veils for the women. He does not answer when he is asked about lapidation. He says: “it is a complex issue and one would need more time to discuss it”.
Another guy explains he is a theater professor. He tries to give theater lessons to the youth of Trappes. He says: “There are less and less girls attending my improvisation and theater courses... sometimes I meet a girl I know in the street, who used to attend my theater courses, I can hardly recognise her: she wears a veil, she acts strangely and does not talk to me. I can’t believe how they changed, it makes me feel uncomfortable”.
A veiled girl says, very moved: “When I pray, I feel like I am soaring... I am facing God. It is as if I was under drugs, I cannot explain it”.
Then the journalist meets a group of Rap, one of the only ones which is male and female, and some singers are non Muslim. He asks the youth what they think about the veil, but the girls, even the non Muslim, are embarrassed and don’t seem to want to answer. Only the guys talk. But then the journalist asks the girls what they think about it. A non Muslim girl says “I am against the veil, but I don’t want to talk about it”. Another girl says: “I don’t wear a skirt here in Trappes, because in the street the guys would call me a whore. But outside Trappes, I like wearing a skirt”.
The journalist finally finds a laic place, it is a high school. There the girls are free to talk: “20 years ago, women were respected here. Now, there is no respect towards women, they are called WHORES by the men in the street”. Another girl: “the French State must do something... they know it happens, it is visible enough no ? “ Another girl: “When the girls wear trousers, they are more respected than if they wear skirts, but they are still inferior to the men”. “Men think we are sexual objects, and cooks”. A blond girl makes fun of the men saying “all they want is a hole” and all the girls laugh.
Then the journalist films the preparation for the big demonstration against the Law against the veil (it had been a big controversy in France). The guys organise everything and tell the women what they must do. There are two buses to go to Paris (for the demonstration), one for men, one for women. A man climbs into the women’s bus and says to them: “do not talk to any journalist during the demonstration”.
But during the demonstration (in Paris), a veiled woman tells the journalist: “wearing a veil is not always easy, because when you have the veil, you cannot go out on evening anymore”.
Back to the high school. A philosophy teacher (white, non Muslim woman) says: “I had never had problems before but now, some pupils question my teachings in the name of Islam. Islam is superior to everything, it has the answer for everything. It is superior to Science. They say the Big Bang is explained in the Coran. I had some parents coming to the school to contest my teaching in the name of Islam. I was sued by the Muslim association of Trappes for “racial hatred” (NB: the journalist does not say who won).
The journalist films an anti Israel demonstration in Trappes.
The journalist then visits some mothers, first generation of immigrants, who cannot speak French (they speak Arabic). They explain that they are against the veil “because we want our daughters to find a job and with the veil it is not easy”. A white woman says “it is the fault of the successive French goverments because they have put all the Muslims together and hence they speak Arabic between them and have no chance to integrate, and now the radicals are here. It is ridiculous, some women are not even veiled in their coutnry and when they arrive here, after a few months they wear a veil”.
The daughters explain (in French): “We are more educated than our mothers, hence we are more religious because we understand Islam better”. One of them says: “They keep asking us to “integrate”... but they must stop now, they must understand that a Frenchwoman does not necessarily drink beer or eat pork... WE DO NOT WANT TO INTEGRATE. France is also Islamic”.
Some Muslims, in Trappes, disagree, it is the black community (from West Africa). A black guy explains: “We have been rejected by the Arab Muslim community. The Arab Muslims have become too political. We do not want that. We are for a tolerant Islam. We respect the laws of France. We African Blacks are not Arab, and we will never be Arab”. And also: “Now I hear some kids saying that Coca Cola is the drink of Satan...”
Back to the Catholic convert (the book seller): “Islam is for everybody... we just have to wait. Islam is a giant which will conquer everything. Everybody will be touched, the Europeans, the Americans, men and women, the lawyers and the workers, everybody”.
Dhimmi part: about the mayor of Trappes, a socialist. A guy explains that “the mayor of Trappes has given his soul for a mosquee”. He explains that the mayor promised the radicals to give them money for a mosquee and for a religious (coranic) school if they voted for him, which they did. The journalist visits the mayor of Trappes who says he will not comment about that.
Laic resistance in Trappes: some teachers have organised a conference about “women and laicity”. The radical Muslims are attending but they do not speak. A woman says “Islam has to renounce some of its principles to be integrated in Europe”. A veiled girl takes the micro: “Who are you to tell us what we must do, you so called laic people...” etc.
That’s all ! Sorry for my imperfect English... I felt I had to translate this video because it might be our future... I will post in on several threads.... (maybe Mr Spencer will argue with me but I take the risk, as long as he does not lapidate me, but I don’t think lapidation is part of his traditions).