'Offensive Cartoons Like 9/11 of Islamic World'

The Islamic world may know when their version of 9/11 has arrived courtesy of the USSTRATCOM who are typically not known for their cartoons.

"... because we need each other." ??

Speak for yourself, Solana. Who really needs this sh*t?

"It is unfortunate that the Islamic world took the satirical drawings as a different version of the September 11 attacks against them."

Don't they have Sesame Street in a few places around the Middle East? Surely "One of These Things Is Not Like the Other" translates into some useful form.

It also applies nicely to Islam among the trio of "Abrahamic" faiths. ;)

Latest news - 9 die in Libya in cartoon Jihad protests

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060217/ap_on_re_mi_ea/prophet_drawings

If their hysteria continues, they may end up killing a hundred or so of their own morons.

The equation, in every respect, is bogus.

The Danish caricatures were drawn to say that Muslim violence, inspired by a warlord prophet, had intimidated Danish artists from daring to illustrate a children's author's book "The Koran and the the Life of Mohammad" by Kare Bluyitgen (published a month ago, finally), and that free world editorial cartoonists would comment on this absurd intimidation -with a show of courage.

The violent Islamic response has not only shown their inability to understand this kind of simple demonstration of freedom of speech, but their over-reaction to the point of burning embassies (attacking people who had nothing to do with printing the images) and killing one another in the mob dementia, proves that the Danish cartoonists were dead on accurate.

Islamic Imperialism is an intimidation machine.
Irrational, superstitious, duplicitous, bloodthirsty, idiotic and unwilling to rein in its basest impulses. Indifferent to the facts, and drunk on their own egomania and out-of-control pseudo-iconoclasm.

Images of Mohammad are to be restricted within Islam (although, hypocritically, this isn't even strictly true among many Muslims) in order to prevent idolatry of the "prophet". Danes are not within Islam, Mohammad is not their "prophet", and they are under only the restrictions of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, not Shariah Law. Plus, their oconoclastic images would never have tempted any Mohammedan to worship such pictures of Mohammad.

Their b.s. piles higher than the Ka'aba.

And their incendiary silliness -along with the deaths of their fellow Muslims at their own hands- over mere cartoons (that warned of their tendency to unreasoning violence) are met with inane, laughable violence in response.

World-historical knuckleheads and world-class deceivers.

Time to change their spiritual diapers.

If they really were as upset as they claim why didn’t all the protests start at once? From my prospective they seem to have a pattern. They seem to slowly take turns being “upset” maybe, whoever’s money is backing all this crap has to take a few travel days to move from country to country. It must be hard arraigning all the spontaneous riots to appear spontaneous. I would love to sit down with a few of the upset Muslims and just ask them if they honestly know how stupid and pointless all this seems. I would have never dreamed of putting a foreign flag on my beloved truck but today I ordered one to show support for the Danes. I hope in some small way it ruins someone’s day as I blow past him or her on the interstate. As far as the Islamic 9/11, all I can say is they have a lot of nerve to even attempt a comparison.

Ronin

The whole thing has been orchestrated. I'd like to see a concerted effort to go after the maestroes, starting with qaradawi. A 12-bore fatwa through his putrid brain matter.

Until the Muslims turn over OBL, Zawahiri, Zarqawi, and all the rest of Al Qaeda and stop all homicide bombings, kidnappings, IED's, persecution/torture/mutilations/murder of Christians worldwide, and learn to behave in a civilized manner, Muslims will continue to be marginalized and then expelled from countries where they are unable to live in peace. But they cannot do that, because their belief system and worldview are violent and murderous.

I am getting SO effing tired of the EU. Every day now, they're willing to sell out of democracy and democratic values... What the hell is wrong with those people?

'Offensive Cartoons Like 9/11 of Islamic World'

Does that mean that in this war, the islamic world would prefer 9/11s droppped on them, then a dozen cartoons?

from the article: "Muslims are offended by the cartoons,"

Spencer, in response:

"Actually....they aren't. If they really were, they would have been

1. [number added] protesting just as violently in Egypt when the cartoons were printed there in October as they have been elsewhere more recently....

2. [numer added] calling for the executions of the Danish Muslims who added into a dossier circulated in the Muslim world three cartoons much more inflammatory than the 12 that were actually printed in the Danish newspaper."

A rebuttal just doesn't get any better than that. Unless it actually goes further to hit the nail itself on the head:

Spencer: "No, cartoon rage isn't really about offensive cartoons at all. It is an attempt to cow Western nations into adopting Islamic blasphemy laws, forbidding non-Muslims to insult the Prophet -- and making them take the first large step toward accepting other Sharia provisions..."

Without a doubt. It's also interesting to reflect on Islam's fundamental strategy for accomplishing that goal. Islam owes its long history of successful conquest to its heretofore capacity to silence critics of Muhammad, because once the truth about Muhammad himself is widely known, not just infidels, but Muslims themselves, will recognize pure evil if not merely garden variety psychopathy when they see it. Once they recognize that, then they will recognize Islam for the fraud it is. And that Islam is a fraud is indisputable to not only any rational person, but to any feeling person as well.

However, if one is forbidden to blaspheme the prophet, it shuts all potential doors for open discussion about Muhammad as a moral example for all time. And what flows from that is shutting down discussion of the fact that Muslims are following in Muhammad's footsteps, and the fact that the so-called "terrorists" like UBL and Zarqawi are factually those who are most closely following in Muhammad's actual footseps. And that would crush the illusion that Islam itself is a "religion of peace". Which would crush the illusion that a huge number of so-called "moderate Muslims' who presumably represent the "real" Islam, have had their religion yanked out from under them by the likes of UBL and Zarqawi. And that realization would awaken the infidels to the realization that "good" Muslims follow not only in the path of UBL and Zarqawi, but in the path of Muhammad himself. Which would mean that real Muslims ARE basically commanded to kill us infidels and that they are also permitted to lie to us about their intentions to do so until they have established a certain critical mass amongst us, after which the mask will come off - just as it did with their perfect man and prophet Muhammad.

In other words, denying us infidels the freedom to speak openly about Muhammad is tantamount to denying us infidels the right to speak openly about what Muslims ACTUALLY HAVE IN STORE FOR US - namely our death, our conversion, or our subjugation.

Yet these monsters - yes, I will use the term "monsters" - have the sheer gall, to cloak all this in language that is ours alone - language that belongs to us infidels, whether Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, secular humanists - language invoking understanding and tolerance and acceptance - language that Muslims don't share at all, except in the context of demanding that infidels understand, tolerate and accept THEM - even as they loudly tell us, that their religion - (this religion they demand we respect and understand) - commands them to convert, kill or enslave us. Bottom line is we have folks telling us to respect and understand the fact that they are religiously obligated to kill or enslave us. That is the BOTTOM LINE!

I think westerners raised in the western liberal tradition, especially in the past post-WWII 50-some years, simply CANNOT comprehend that this is FOR REAL! But yes folks! As insane as this seems to you, the unfortunate truth is that THIS IS FOR REAL!

The truth is that 50 years is but a drop in time. Please do not be so deluded and actually arrogant to imagine that you had actually personally succeeded in escaping human history altogether. Sorry to break the news to you but you weren't so lucky! And you simply don't have the luxury anymore of sticking your heads in the sand and pretending to yourselves that Islam is actually a "religion of peace".

From Gates of Vienna.............March for free speech in Trafalgar Square.

In a post on Monday I helped publicize a grass-roots British project to counter the growing movement to suppress free speech in order to appease Muslims.

The efforts of all the people involved have borne fruit; we received an email this morning announcing that March for Free Expression has booked Trafalgar Square for Saturday 25th March.

They also sent us the following:

Statement of Principle

The strength and survival of free society and the advance of human knowledge depend on the free exchange of ideas. All ideas give offense to someone, and some of the most powerful ideas in human history, such as those of Galileo and Darwin, have given profound religious offense in their time.

The free exchange of ideas depends on freedom of expression and this includes the right to criticize and mock.

We assert and uphold the right of freedom of expression and call on our elected representatives to do the same.

We abhor the fact that people throughout the world live under mortal threat simply for expressing ideas and we call on our elected representatives to protect them from attack and not to give comfort to the forces of intolerance that besiege them.

The group’s email address is marchforfreespeech@googlemail.com, and the blog is marchforfreeexpression.blogspot.com.

So readers in the UK — and those planning a visit — will want to make a note of the date, March 25th, and the venue, Trafalgar Square. That’s in London: just hang a left at the White Cliffs of Dover and go about 60 miles — you can’t miss it.

Well said, Caroline.

In Libya, 11 reportedly die in cartoon protests
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/02/17/libya.cartoons/index.html
Eleven people were killed and an Italian consulate was burned in Libya on Friday night during protests to denounce the publication of cartoons depicting the Muslim prophet Mohammed; the Italian consulate and surrounding area in Benghazi were evacuated after the protesters torched the building

"I am getting SO effing tired of the EU. Every day now, they're willing to sell out of democracy and democratic values... What the hell is wrong with those people?"

posted by 'danish dynamite"

These pop-tarts have been put out to pasture for incompetence by the various countries that belong to the EU. The BS they peddle is the brainchild of what got them there in the first place. The bloated EU, just like Koffi's UN, has become a joke and a gigantic money-pit which doesn't work for us, but against us.

When the Mohammedan internment and the deportations start we may as well round these preposterous EU-officials up and ship them out with them.

DanishDynamite -

Remember, the EU is an organisation that has not managed to have its books approved by its own internal auditors (the Court of Auditors) in the last nine years; further, there has never been a year in the entire history of the organisation (in all its manifold guises) when the Court of Auditors has not had major and grave reservations about the vast bulk of any of the annual accounts. Last year the EU could only account to the Court for 30% of the money that it had been given to spend, and this was a sixfold improvement on the previous year, which, in itself was a sixfold improvement on the year before that, which, in itself was ... oh you get the picture, I'm sure. No reputable external accounting firm would consider the accounting practices of the EU to be anything other than organised fraud on a colossal scale and there is much sound evidence to indicate that organised crime is the prime beneficiary of much EU spending.

Every year Governments of Member States, those self-same Governments that are bound by stringent auditing standards that force them to account for quite literally every last ha'penny in their own countries, hand over many billions of Euros to an unelected institution that then proceeds to lose 70% of the funds entrusted to it and, worse, claimed this year that being able to roughly account for approximately 30% (note carefully the order of my words there) was not only a significant improvement but was good enough to satisfy everybody.

You should now understand the criminal nature of many, if not all, EU officials and exactly what the EU is. It is not a union of sovereign states joining together to promote their common interests; it is, rather, a criminal conspiracy run by many dubious politicians with the sole aim of diverting public money into private purses controlled by, or available to, the said politicians. If you don't believe me then you are welcome to try to find out what has happened to the missing 70%. You won't be able to and if you try too hard many, many unpleasant things will happen to you and yours - and I speak from experience.

It should now be obvious why the gangsters in charge of the EU behave as they do to the Mohammedans. They are only interested in protecting their own ill-gotten gains and, quite certainly, they couldn't give a monkey's toss for freedom or for the future of Europe. One last example - it is calculated that over half of the people working for the EU obtained their appointments fraudulently in some way; over half of the people working for the EU normally claim far more in expenses than they are entitled to; over one fifth of the people working for the EU are not nationals of any EU state. Need I say more?

MOST FUNNY ISLAMIC CARTOONS EVER!!

RIGHT HERE:
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1898359

You gotta check them out...if you want a good belly laugh.

(click my username for direct link)

Thank you Caroline and Certiorari for your insights. My only comment here is that if Islamists think this is their 9/11, they don't know the difference between ink and blood. The cartoons are so trivial, how can they kill their own people over them? I'm just not getting it, other than this is a way to start the "final" war with Islam and the West. Sigh.

M.

Sheik yer'mami
Add Bill Clinton,Al Gore,John Esposito,Karen Armstrong, to the Euro Clowns and ship the whole damn lot to nearest Sharia Paradise.Wait a mo..take the entire staff of BBC Dhimmis and Guardian Dhimmis Unlimited,Prince Charles, Archbishop Rowan Williams on a ONE WAY PARACHUTE JUMP over Saudi Arabia preferably near where 'Insurgents' are.There they can experience the 'Compassion of Allah' just before being beheaded...
Tree Hugger
Hey, wonderful idea,hope it will catch on around the world because this is what we should be doing-organising and marching in DEFENSE OF FREE SPEECH.
As to outrageous comments by Islamists THAT CARTOONS ARE THEIR 9/11-oh yeah-anyone hear of a
drawing KILLING anyone!! I know " the pen is supposed to be mightier than the sword" but claims of these Mad Mullahs is downright ridiculous. Perhaps we should bomb them with cardboard cutouts of the cartoons to provoke their frenzy further?
Have noted that U.S's Turkish buddies have made a
virulently anti American film {wotcha know-Turks funded&produced it themselves] and 2.7 million 'secular' Turks have queued to watch it over first 10 days of showing. This powerful piece of Anti American propaganda is called VALLEY OF THE WOLVES-IRAQ. Understand audience gets to its feet
and screams applause when bad boy American gets killed-actually all the Americans in it are BAD BOYS. Then there is Dhimmi Britisher called 'Winterbottom's film ROAD TO GUANTANAMO which is receiving rave reviews at Berlin Festival by all American Haters and Muslims in particular. Think it is time American did some jumping up and down themselves. Better still how
about making some films themselves. That notorious & evil Mufti Al Husseini's exploits deserve to be exposed, also a 'Life of Arafat-Terrorism,Bum Boys & Misssing Millions' would be
a sure hit.There is scope surely for 'Burka Babes-an expose of little girls raped in so called'marriage' by Muslim Men. Best of all, if we
could find a fearless producer would be 'Mohammed-Life & Times of the World's No 1 Terrorist...

Let's see; 9-11, thousands die, Muslims hand out candy and rejoice. "Moderate" Muslims say nothing, no outrage, no objections. 12 cartoons get published in Western papers and they go crazy, burning, looting, rioting, killing. Go figure.

hammerhead wrote: "Kingdom’s Leading Executioner Says: ‘I Lead a Normal Life’
Mahmoud Ahmad, Arab News Staff

If this article doesn't illustrate why there is such a clash of civilization between the secular west and the arab world, nothing will. They will never be able to live among us peaceably.

Thanks for the link Han Solo - great fun at that site! LOL!! Photoshop in the wrong hands again...

Caroline-
That was "truly" brilliant.

Robert notes:

"It is an attempt to cow Western nations into adopting Islamic blasphemy laws, forbidding non-Muslims to insult the Prophet -- and making them take the first large step toward accepting other Sharia provisions, just as the jihadists are also fighting in their way to compel them to do."

Caroline, thank you for you posts here -- well reasoned, well written, and emotionally engaging. [deep bow]

Possibly, in all the excitement of the world-wide expression by fanatics of their fanatical displeasure, and their utter incomprehension and impatience with Western notions of Free Speech, arrived at after centuries, an incomprehension and impatience displayed not only by those murderous mobs, those death-threatening imams, those economic-boycotting, diplomatic-relations-severing governments, but also by Muslims living in the West, enjoying its freedoms, includng the right of free speech, and intent apparently on destroying the right of Westerners to retain their own freedoms.

It is a mad situation, made even more infuriating by the pusillanimity displayed by many newspapers, with The New Duranty Times, uneasy with its own cowardice, has chosen for sevreal days running now to let others (today it was Robert Wright's turn) explain how "freedom of the press," it has suddenly been discovered, has its limits -- the very limits that coincide, as it happens, with the precise demands of Muslims, whether in mobs or at meetings of the O.I.C., world-wide.

Meanwhile, in France, Ilan Halimi has been murdered -- but why bother with things like that. There is the dismantling of Freedom of Speech to attend to.

On Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, the Turkish historian who was carefully chosen, as the most moderate and presentable (to the Infidels) person, after the bad impression left by Mohamad Mahathir's celebrated rant, to assume the position of head of the Organization of Islamic Countries, one can find a number of things in the JW archives.

Here are two:

1. From a posting on exaggerated claims made by Muslims for "Islamic science":

"One might also be amused by the large claims made by a bizarre figure, Ziauddin Sarkar. Sarkar, in turn, was somehow permitted to review, in the pages of the British journal "Nature," the large claims made on behalf of "Ottoman" -- i.e., "Islamic" science - by Dr. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, a historian of Ottoman science, some of whose attempts to explain why such things as the clock did not develop in the East but only in the West (you see, since the early clocks were not sufficiently accurate for Muslims to rely on them for knowing when it was time for prayers, they did not think it worth using them, or trying to improve them) raise far more disturbing questions about the Muslim mind-set than Dr. Ihsanoglu apparently realizes.

Why did an editor at Nature give the job of reviewing Ekheleddin Ihsanoglu's book to the apologist Ziauddin Sarkar? And who at Science allowed the puff-piece about "Islamic science," with every cliche that no historian of mathematics, or science, or technology -- not Giorgio di Santillana, not Crombie, not Charles Singer, not a hundred others -- would have permitted.

What is happening when standards, supposedly so rigorous at "Science" or at "Nature" are so obviously non-existent, and both journals become, rightly, the object of ridicule? This kind of thing cannot be allowed to go on. Who, in the world of science, will demand some kind of investigation into how, if not Sarkar's absurd review, then at least Wasim Masiak's bit of propaganda for some Self-Esteem Studies Department at Al-Azhar University, or the King Abdul Aziz Institute of Advanced Islamic Sciences, is discussed, both its contents, and how it ever was allowed to grace the pages of what is supposed to be a serious and "peer-reviewed" journal.

Who were Masiak's peers who reviewed him? George Saliba?

Posted by: Hugh at July 30, 2005 01:36 PM

2. And this excerpt from "Islam for Infidels, Part III":

And many more words and phrases will need to be carefully redefined to protect Islam from prying eyes and minds. Certain words that could prove too hot to mishandle may have to be eliminated altogether. One word that seems to be getting much disturbing attention lately, is “dhimmi.” If Infidels were to visit the website www.dhimmitude.org, or even read the books of Bat Ye’or, they might develop a negative view of Islam. And that would never do. Muslims are keenly aware of the problem – hence all the talk of “protected peoples” and the Compact of Omar.. No less a personage than Dr. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, a Turkish historian of Ottoman science, who is now the Secretary-General of the Organization of Islamic Countries, helpfully explained in a recent address to an audience of American Infidels, that the “privilege of becoming a protected minority via an act of dhimmiship was given only to the followers of a prophet to whom a sacred book was revealed.”

In defining “dhimmiship” as the “privilege of becoming a protected minority” Dr. Ihsanoglu did his best. But those who are so solicitious of the public image of Islam and of Muslims in mind realize that it should not be left up just to NPR, or the BBC, or Le Monde; we all have to pitch in, and do our bit. It might be better if “dhimmi” were to be jettisoned altogether. The word upsets Infidels, and it does nothing for Muslims, either.

Instead of “dhimmis” why not call them “Friends With Benefits”?

Posted on February 14, 2005 10:33 AM |

"Former President Bill Clinton today called for the conviction of European papers that published satirical cartoons of Muhammad, according to reports in the Islamic press and elsewhere.

Clinton condemned the publication of the caricatures by European newspapers and urged countries concerned to convict the publishers, according to the reports. "

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48889

George, it's your turn! Don't forget YOUR LINES -- islam is the relgion of peace -- say it ten times; and sound like you mean it this time!

Cry your heart out:

This turkey was once the president of the US of A:

There he goes again, like an amok-running prostitute:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4723450.stm

Actually: He's worse! He is far worse than any amok-running prostitute.... my apologies!

witness, You are correct with your "George it's your turn" remark. Tonight we have cartoons, borders, ROP, etc. etc. etc. We also have, tonight, a big lack of interest on our port security. UAE buying our port operations? This is just as fatal as any cartoon uproar. Oh well, the war on terror you know.

l think Benjamins wise words ring true today. l hope l have this right,, we must hang together if we dont we will be hanged separately? the comment of sticking together is always rise. l just wished the libs would see this, and the the right would truly see not all relgions are equal!

sorry l should preview mys stuff.. its Benjamin Franklin.. who said that

Lulu, I believe that. If we don't hang together we'll hang seperately. I'm going to have my say as long as my keyboard and my mouth works.

Earth to Muslims, Grow Up!!!!

They don't want to return to any Sharia nation. Their idea is to make a Sharia nation out of all western nations. Good Luck with that Islam, you will fail.

Maybe America's MSM will grow some courage and will finally start publishing honest cartoons about Islam, Mohammed and the Muslims so they can continue to riot and kill each other and honestly blame America this time.

President Bush called the vile and evil cult of Islam a noble religion. President Bush please realize that Islam is at war with America and intends on defeating and enslaving America.

I hope President Bush's advisors are providing him with all of the info, video and pictures of this noble religion and then he may realize that there is war being waged by Islam against America and President Bush is not fighting the true war with Islam and protecting America from Islam like he promised to protect America from its enemies during his televised speech on 2/17/06.

The war with Islam is inevitable and it is near.

Prepare, be armed, be ready.

The Texican

Freedom. The only choice at any cost.

"I am getting SO effing tired of the EU. Every day now, they're willing to sell out of democracy and democratic values... What the hell is wrong with those people?"

remember Hegel?
"People desorve their government."

The cartoons have been a blessing to the Western world. People are beginning to realize the truth and extent of the threat.

Our enemy is not "radical islam," as there is no such thing. Islam is just Islam. Our enemy is "honest, faithful muslims." And the unfaithful, muslim in name only "moderate muslims" are too secular or cowardly to be of much use.

The movie "Good night and Good Luck," by George Clueless, is supposed to show the need for the media to risk anything to tell the truth. In the Fifties it was the communists in hiding, today it is those who tell the truth about Islam. The MSM shows extreme cowardice in failing to tell the truth about Islam and to run the cartoons.

We must have the courage to ban all religous texts that call for the violent overthrow of the government. Ask the imams whether the Quran calls for the violent overthrow of the US, then act accordingly.

``He who dares not offend cannot be honest.`` Thomas Paine

"He who is always offended needs to get a life." - Mohammadsa Paineintheass.