Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald renews his plea for an end to the jizyah:
The Jizyah -- that is, the payment by Infidels to Muslims, in order to buy a temporary "protection" from Muslims themselves that will cease just as soon as the payment of that Jizyah ceases -- needs to be stopped everywhere.To be stopped, however, it first needs to be seen as Jizyah, which is exactly what it is, although it is described as "foreign aid" or "humanitarian aid." "Humanitarian aid" goes to those who have suffered some disaster -- drought, say, or tsunami. It is a temporary thing. It is given because the people who receive it will gratefully take it, use it to get back on their feet (or should), and certainly not pocket it as if it belongs to them by right and can rightfully be taken from those whose laws, customs, and manners they have been instructed since birth to hate and to wish destroyed. That is absurd.
There are many examples of this Jizyah being paid. To Egypt, not our "ally." To Pakistan, not our "ally." To Jordan, not our "ally." Most of the Muslim inhabitants of Egypt, Pakistan, and Jordan, as well as of other states that have been receiving the Jizyah, do not support, and are not genuinely friendly towards the Infidels. That doesn't mean they don't want to move to the Lands of the Infidels, and in those lands to earn money, to settle in, and to behave as no other immigrants voluntarily allowed to settle in history have behaved: as entitled to transform the societies, in order to remove any barriers to the spread of Islam and the power of Muslims, so that "Islam may dominate and is not to be dominated." This is something a great many people cannot quite understand. They cannot quite figure out how it is that, for example, a few hundred thousand impoverished Somalis, who would seem to be reasonable recipients of visas, turn out to bring with them in their mental baggage an alien and a hostile creed -- a creed hostile, in the first place, to the idea of the worth and significance of the individual, and of the rights that, consequently, have been established to protect individuals.
The most egregious and outrageous example of the Jizyah is that which goes to the local Arabs who after 1967 renamed themselves, for clearly political reasons. Google "Zuheir Mohsen" and "There is no such thing as the Palestinian people" to see what the leader of one of those terror groups admitted in a moment of candor.It should be stopped. These people hope, dream, and intend sooner or later to wipe out Israel and to seize the Holy Land for Islam. Hamas has failed to disguise, when given opportunity after opportunity, its clear intent. Only a complete fool could fail, at this point, to grasp that intent, and only an antisemite could ignore it.
Huge sums are now being paid, all over the Western world, to monitor Muslim communities. Huge sums are being paid for security measures, for guards at churches and synagogues and Hindu temples, for guards at airports and metro stations and bus stations. For guards at every government office building and high-profile target. For monitoring the Internet, for tapping phones, for doing all the things we are now forced to do, and would wish did not have to be done, but from now on out will have to be done. Why? Because of the presence of that population that unlike all others, did not jettison that hostility when it arrived. And, indeed, many of those who may have come only with economic improvement in mind have turned out to produce children who, in their inability to adopt or adapt, always seem to return to Islam -- the full Islam. And that is something we can't tolerate, and should not be asked to.
Meanwhile, Muslim-majority states make up 10 of the 11 members of OPEC. Arab and Muslim states have received, for nothing at all, for not a single effort by a single Arab or Muslim, more than 10 trillion dollars since 1973. They have helped to make the entire world more unpleasant, expensive, and dangerous. We have just spent $400 billion trying, trying, trying, to bring some slight decency to Iraq. This will fail. Among those who were behind this policy, their initial messianism has sunk into mere sentimentalism about how "everyone loves freedom." Yet despite all this money, all this effort, ultimately the sectarian and ethnic fissures that were not brought into being or even exacerbated by the Americans (unless one counts the removal of the murderous despot who held things in check through murder), but have existed since virtually the beginning of Islam, will simmer. Then they will perhaps explode.
Let the "poor" "Palestinians" get no Jizyah. Period. Not from the E.U. Not from the United States. Not from any Infidels. Let them go to those fabulously rich fellow members of the umma al-islamiyya, the daggers-and-dishdasha boys in Saudi Arabia, the louche wheeler-dealers of the U.A.E., the real estate moguls, putting up their Persian Gulf versions of Las Vegas-cum-Disneyworld-cum-Rodeo-Drive, giving the lie to all those who keep telling us that Islam is "unmaterialistic" unlike other religions. No end to this nonsense.
There is no distinction between "humanitarian" aid and other kinds in this case. The aid is meant to sustain a warlike and violent group who at this point cannot be transformed, but can be weakened, can be made to work merely to survive so that there will be no time whatsoever for fun-and-games with black balaclavas and kalashnikovs.
Make them beg from the Saudis. Make them go to work. Make them leave the area in search of work elsewhere, the way people have done since the beginning of time, and the way some of their ancestors, who arrived earlier in this century from Iraq and Egypt, or those who arrived in the last century with the veterans of Abd el Kader and Mehmet Ali, or who were transplanted by the Ottomans from Muslim villages in Europe, did. Only this time in reverse.
There are many people worthy of charity. Bolivian Indians. Black Africans in the Sudan and Congo. Hindus being murdered in Bangladesh. The Arab Muslims, all or any of them, the recipients of the greatest unearned transfer of wealth in human history, are at this point not among them.
Stop the Jizyah. And put whatever money is saved into solar and wind energy projects, and whatever else comes fittingly to mind.
Why don't we call it what it really is... a waste of tax-payer money.
I don't understand why we feel obligated to give aid to a group of people that hate us. What are we getting in return?
That money could be put to better uses, but if the government feels the need to waste it, waste it on me. I promise I won't put it to good use, but at least I won't be actively campaigning against the US, Its interests and/or allies.
Agree. When Medicins San Frontiere helps starving & suffering Muslims, you are helping Muslims to allocate greater part of Zakat(Muslim Charity money) for Jihad. Have you noticed how Allah seems to punish only the Muslims with Famine(North Africa), Tsunamis(Indonesia, Muslim coastal villages in Thailand, Srilanka & India) and Earthquakes(only affecting Muslim part of Kashmir)?
Hugh's meme of the Jizya is spreading around. It's not just applicable anymore to a dhimmi in a Muslim land. These Muhammadan parasites demand it from non-Muslims outside their borders with the threat that things will be unpleasant if the funds are not forthcoming
"There are many people worthy of charity. Bolivian Indians. Black Africans in the Sudan and Congo. Hindus being murdered in Bangladesh. The Arab Muslims, all or any of them, the recipients of the greatest unearned transfer of wealth in human history, are at this point not among them."
That's a truly fascinating way to look at it. Thank you.
What sort of madness has overcome the Western countries to dole out aid to Muslims. Already there are millions of Muslims in Europe being doled out welfare, housing, free medicines, free education etc. Why give aid to these parasites who would not think twice, to slit our throats. There are many other deserving causes in our own countries; like the elderly, the disabled who could use this money and it will stay in our own countries. Why give to the ungrateful any money at all. Let countries such as Saudi Arabia give charity, they spend enough on propagating their hateful version of Islam - Whabism all over the world. How do you think that mosques are popping up in every town in Europe, staffed by primitive Imams schooled in Saudi religions schools who spew nothing but hatred towards the west and Christianity thereby radicalizing western born muslim youth.
Blast! I posted this under the wrong entry somehow. If you are able to, please delete this identical comment on the oil money post by Mr. Fitzgerald... I meant for it to go here:
Incredible, Mr. Fitzgerald, just incredible. Why is it that we in the West feel compelled to by this Jizyah? Why doesn't anyone petition the Arab oil kings to support their own people? What is it about our mentality as Westerners that we feel so guilty about everything we do that we continue to pay our executioners?
Why do we not have any politicians or leaders who are strong enough or wise enough to stand up and say, "Hey, there is something wrong here, this has to stop!"
What do we do, Mr. Fitzgerald?
I just finished sending e-mails back and forth with a friend of mine who is, unfortunately, dangerously ignorant on the topic of Islam. He is one of those people whose main beef with the Iraq War is that he thinks it will just lead to a new generation of Middle Easterners who hate us, continually citing the "poor Middle Eastern boy who will grow up without a father and be angry at us because of it." I did my very best to try to persuade him that, though there are many aspects of the war in Iraq to be critical of, this is one of the most minor. And what of the internecine warfare of the factions of Islam? Will the little Middle Eastern boy whose father, a Shi'a, was killed by a Sunni, not hate all Sunni's then? More importantly, what of all the little Infidel-children, the world over, who are growing up parentless because their fathers and mothers were blown up in their local supermarket, or on a bus, or at their place of worship by a hateful Muslim who had been taught to hate them for their non-Islamicness, regardless of any personal grievances this Muslim may have felt were caused by the Infidel. What of them? I asked.
Of course, he had no response. He never stopped to think about the victims of 9/11 and the worldwide jihad, about what they are thinking and feeling and how life will be for them. And the funny thing is, despite all their sorrow and tragedy, they probably won't grow up hating and blaming all Muslims for all their problems, maybe because they're more rational than that, maybe because no one is teaching them to do so.
Regardless, after page upon page upon page of lengthy e-mails, I finally convinced my friend to educate himself a bit on this subject. I gave him the links to JihadWatch and DhimmiWatch, and he pledges to read them every day. I also convinced him to buy some books on the subject, and he says he's going to start reading Serge Trifkovic's Sword of the Prophet and Spencer's PIG soon, at my behest.
I am not a rich, powerful, influential person yet, but I hope to be in time. If nothing has been done about any of this by then, and we're still alive, I will make it my mission to devote my time and energy and wealth to educating people on this threat. But in the meantime, I have decided to start a book mission. I now offer to purchase reading materials on this issue for anyone I know who is interested, and I ask them to pass along their books to others when they are finished. I think right now, ignorance is our worst enemy, and this isn't much, but it's something for now.
They are gonna try to kill all islam free people with or with out these sleazy payoffs they demand anyway.
They voted for terrorists, we don't fund terrorism, so sadly they also voted for starvation. Next election, they may know different.... but then again maybe not.
And yes there are plenty of good people in need around to give money to.
wow salogue thats so kind of you :P People will learn from your book mission, good on you!
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