Here is Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald's uproarious take on Condoleeza Rice's phone conversation with Hamid Karzai:
Robert's imagined conversation between Condoleeza Rice and Hamid Karzai puts one in mind of a certain famous movie conversation. I have changed only a few words, and added words of my own, but much of the original remains present."Hello?... Ah... I can't hear too well. Do you suppose you could turn the music down just a little?... Oh-ho, that's much better... yeah... huh... yes.. Fine, I can hear you now, Hamid... Clear and plain and coming through fine... I'm coming through fine, too, eh?... Good, then... well, then, as you say, we're both coming through fine... Good... Well, it's good that you're fine and... and I'm fine... I agree with you, it's great to be fine... a-ha-ha-ha-ha...
"Now then, Hamid, you know how we've always talked about the possibility of something going wrong with that Sharia of yours... The Sharia, Hamid...... The Islamic Sharia... Well now, what happened is... ah... well, you know, our people, Hamid, they're just a little funny on the subject..just a little funny in the head, and they don't always understand...just a little funny in the head... you know... just a little... funny. And, ah.. they've gone and done a silly thing... Well, I'll tell you what they've done, Hamid. They want us to stop supporting your government....Yes, Hamid, your government. They don't like you....No, Hamid, I don't think it is fair. I know you're trying....You don't like them, either, Hamid? I understand. I completely understand....
"Well, it's like this, Hamid. Some of think that if that convert is killed...they don't see why we should keep support you. Ah...yes, I know it's none of their business. Yes...but they think it is, Hamid.... They think that everyone should have the freedom to....Well, let me finish, Hamid... Let me finish, Hamid... Well listen, how do you think I feel about it?... Can you imagine how I feel about it, Hamid?... Why do you think I'm calling you? Just to say hello?... Of course I like to speak to you!... Of course I like to say hello!... Not now, but anytime, Hamid. I'm just calling up to tell you something terrible is happening... It's a friendly call. Of course it's a friendly call... Listen, if it wasn't friendly... you probably wouldn't have even got it..."They will not be able to turn our policy around for at least another few months, Hamid... I am... I am positive, Hamid... Listen, I've been all over this with your ambassador. It is not a trick... Well, I'll tell you. We'd like to give your judges a chance to declare the man insane...Yes! That's right, Hamid. So you won't have to kill him. Is that all right, Hamid? Would that be....You don't have to get mad, Hamid. I am not insulting Islam, Hamid. No, not at all. I mean i-i-i-if we're unable to stop his execution, Hamid, then... I'd say that, ah.. well, ah... we're just gonna have to stop helping you, Hamid....I know you need them, Hamid. But they're our boys...and our planes, and our equipment. And our money. C'mon Hamid, be reasonable. No, Hamid, we don't owe it to you. No, Hamid, it is not something we have to give you, or else...Stop talking like that, Hamid. That's not nice....
"Okay, calm down. Did you calm down? ....All right, we'll listen now. Who should we call?... Who should we call, Hamid? The sheiks at Al-Azhar? Al-Qaradawi...? Someone in Saudi Arabia? Hamid, are you Sunni or Shi'a?... Why do I ask? Well, Hamid, I think it matters, doesn't it? Not sure, but I think you guys have some differences, isn't that right, Hamid?...You tell me, Hamid. I'll do what you say. Oh, yes I should have known. Right, Khalilzad, he's one of you, isn't you. And he's a Sunni. Right, Hamid. I should have known. Does that mean you are all Sunnis over there, or are you like in Iraq?....No, I'm sorry, Hamid. I didn't mean any disrespect. Just trying to figure it all out.....
"Yes Hamid, it is complicated for us here.... Why does it matter? Well, you tell me, Hamid. Does it matter? Should I think it should matter? I mean, do you get executed if you are a former Sunni or just if you are a former Shi'a?...What's that, Hamid? Oh, it doesn't matter? Not the least little bit? Not even the teeniest little bit? Same punishment? Gosh, Hamid, you guys really take it seriously, don't you?... No, Hamid, I didn't mean that. No, Hamid, I didn't mean to insult you. It's fine...Yes, Hamid. Yes, I apologize. I won't say that again....No, Hamid, I'll never do it again. No, the President won't either. I promise, Hamid. No one in the American government will ever ever make fun.... You, sorry, you faded away there...
"So what's the best person to call about this, Hamid? Oh, you'll call them first, will you?... Uh-huh... Listen, do you happen to have the phone number on you, Hamid?... Whe-ah, what? I see, just ask for Cairo information... Ah-ah-eh-uhm-hm... I'm sorry, too, Hamid... I'm very sorry... *All right*, you're sorrier than I am, but I am as sorry as well... I am as sorry as you are, Hamid! Don't say that you're more sorry than I am, because I'm capable of being just as sorry as you are... So we're both sorry, all right?... All right."
With thanks to Dr. Strangelove.
Karzi has already stated that he will not permit the convert to be executed.
The outrage should be against Islam!!!
I also immediately thought of Dr. Strangelove when I first read Robert's article! It just popped into my mind.
I might add, the McLaughlin Group assures us that Bush will send in commandos to rescue the poor guy, rather than suffer such a major foreign policy embarrassment. Good luck!
The point is: The mere fact that so many clerics AND people wanted to tear him apart is already indicative of a massive failure of comprehension of non-Western mentalities and ideologies on the part of the United States elites.
Afghan Court Drops Case Against Christian
By Associated Press
50 minutes ago
Per my Post above, apparently the pressure from Bush and Rice (as well as others) worked!
No blockhead, the outrage should be against Bush and Co and the neo cons, who approved the new Afghan and Iraqi constitutions that make Those countries Islamic States, Islam the official religion and Shari'a the basis of law and constitution.
They had their chance, but blew it, other needs were more important like pipelines and cozing favor with Muslims (an act of futility, because it didn't help)
Remember when Laura Bush was touring the US to "educate" us (so women would support the invasion)about the poor women of Afghanistan, being hid in homes, uneducated and having to hide under Burqa's.. Well they still are, nothing has changed outside of Kabul.
The Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan had been trying to raise awareness of the plight of Afghan women for decades and nobody listened, not even the neo cons, until....they needed to justify the invasion. Now that the women of Afghanistan served their purpose, they are forgotten and abandoned and the new Afghanistan is like the old Afghanistan.
The story behind the Russian occupation of Afghanistan.
A group of religious righteous, took over a school which was teaching girls, behead the principal and teacher and sparked a revolution against the secular government. The President of Afghanistan called for help to Russia, the Russians sent troops and Ronald Reagan, conned as always by the Saudis, used the CIA to funnel money to the Taliban, while the Saudis sent in Osama to synthesize Wahhabiyya Islam with Shi'a Islam, and of course use their money to construct projects, coordinate and report back to the Saudis.
And Osama, well he lost his thawb,ghutra and igal, took up the Shi'a turban and robe and now we have a new Islamic religion the followers of The Exalted son of the father of the Student (Ali ibn Abu Talib) the Taliban . (Ali the fourth Sunni Caliph and first Shi'a Imam) was Muhammad Hubal Qassim's first student, hence his name son of the father of the student.
Thanks to Ronald Reagan, Zbignew Brzesinki, and all presidents and advisors since we have this problem..we have been carrying water for the Saudis, while they have been making money from the Saudis.
Learjet, you and your ideological friends have more in common with Muslms than not.
They are incapable of accepting criticism, failure or responsibility. They can't because they are perfect and always right (and Right).
And they also have the same basic social values and agenda.
RE: The above Post by Nariz.
Wonder what brought that on? You know
NOTHING about me, so spare me the
generalized comments.
RE: The President of Afghanistan called for help to Russia
Truely the most comical thing I ever heard. Do you honestly believed that the Russians would lose out that equipment and men to help because
the Pres of Afgahnistan called?